The Challenge: Spies, Lies and Allies ( Pointless early speculation)

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Sexes could work well with the women competitors we have today 

they'd have to cast 16 Josh Martinez's.....

Not really, we just saw on TM Jenny beat Bananas in the final. Assuming the guys side sucks like it does now the final 3 guys would probably be some mix of Bananas, Cory, Kyle & Fessy again, which is easily beatable as long as the girls are decently cast and don't sabotage themselves by getting rid of top girls like Jenny, Natalie, Kam, etc.

but who wants to intentionally cast bad guys in hopes that the girls don't run into the 4 of them worth it in the finals. it's a very dated concept imo. it's very stuck in the past 

They wouldn't have to cast sub par dudes - some of these ladies could easily beat them when it comes to running, puzzles, etc.  I think depending on who is cast it would be very interesting to see them battle, I don't see how it's stuck in the past lol gives casting a wide open pool too - no themes which is always good lol

they've had a wide open cast pool since Vendettas/FR. if y'all like it y'all like it don't let me tell you what to like. it's just incredibly unbalanced no matter what fan cast you put out for it the proof is in both previous tries at it. it'd be worse now because at least y'all liked those people in comparison to who they have now **** 

lol very true I'd prob hate half the randoms but would be stoked if an og or two appeared - the format itself though I still like but it def is just a prefrence there, not for everyone. 

Cut Throat 2.... but with Free Agent drafting before each challenge. You never know who will be on your team each challenge. You can go from being in power one week to being vulnerable the other. Plus not knowing who the final teams are would be fun to strategize around leading up to the finale. 

 

 

That's way to messy IMO. Just change it to the winning team gets to vote in people on the team that finished last and the team that finished 2nd votes in their own team

 

Cut Throat 2.... but with Free Agent drafting before each challenge. You never know who will be on your team each challenge. You can go from being in power one week to being vulnerable the other. Plus not knowing who the final teams are would be fun to strategize around leading up to the finale. 

 

 

That's way to messy IMO. Just change it to the winning team gets to vote in people on the team that finished last and the team that finished 2nd votes in their own team

The problem with straight up team games , is they get lopsided and encourage throwing the same people in over and over. That creates boring television. 

 

 

 

 

Sexes could work well with the women competitors we have today 

they'd have to cast 16 Josh Martinez's.....

Not really, we just saw on TM Jenny beat Bananas in the final. Assuming the guys side sucks like it does now the final 3 guys would probably be some mix of Bananas, Cory, Kyle & Fessy again, which is easily beatable as long as the girls are decently cast and don't sabotage themselves by getting rid of top girls like Jenny, Natalie, Kam, etc.

but who wants to intentionally cast bad guys in hopes that the girls don't run into the 4 of them worth it in the finals. it's a very dated concept imo. it's very stuck in the past 

They intentionally cast bad guys anyways. Just this time it's to create a balanced team vs. team season instead of now where they do it to make it seem like Bananas, CT & Wes are still good

The only reason they should cast a bad player is if they've got hookup potential. That part of the show is gone. They need to cast that cute Morgan from Temptation whatever that was in the running for 36. And I would even get Emilee Fitzpatrick's messy self back. She's single, she still looks good, and she wants attention. Hook up potential.

 

 

Cut Throat 2.... but with Free Agent drafting before each challenge. You never know who will be on your team each challenge. You can go from being in power one week to being vulnerable the other. Plus not knowing who the final teams are would be fun to strategize around leading up to the finale. 

 

 

That's way to messy IMO. Just change it to the winning team gets to vote in people on the team that finished last and the team that finished 2nd votes in their own team

The problem with straight up team games , is they get lopsided and encourage throwing the same people in over and over. That creates boring television. 

Yeah but wouldn't this create the same. I mean, Eric was always going to be picked last and people are still going to pick their friends so they have the numbers for the vote. I agreed it's annoying seeing the same people go in that's why the winning team needs more power IMO. I liked the Infernos and Gauntlets when the other team voted someone in personally. 

Multiple teams of 4 works better than two or three big teams I think. I loved the seasons format. 

Cut Throat 2.... but with Free Agent drafting before each challenge. You never know who will be on your team each challenge. You can go from being in power one week to being vulnerable the other. Plus not knowing who the final teams are would be fun to strategize around leading up to the finale. 

 

 

Love this idea. Have the winning pair who won the elimination pick their teams and the leftover team. The players not chosen are safe for the round.

Y'all know we're just gonna get another jank Free Agents-style format where production is gonna do whatever the **** they want and not make any sense and have useless twists 

Y'all know we're just gonna get another jank Free Agents-style format where production is gonna do whatever the **** they want and not make any sense and have useless twists 

 

Y'all know we're just gonna get another jank Free Agents-style format where production is gonna do whatever the **** they want and not make any sense and have useless twists 

I really hope we get Hunter back next season 

I really hope we get Hunter back next season 

youre alone in that hunt ma'amsir 

We really need Sophia. 

I really hope we get Hunter back next season 

youre alone in that hunt ma'amsir 

I never thought I'd say it but I also would like Hunter back next season--that's how bad the current casting is

Honestly an easy fix to constantly throwing the same person in is a relic 

 

 

 

Cut Throat 2.... but with Free Agent drafting before each challenge. You never know who will be on your team each challenge. You can go from being in power one week to being vulnerable the other. Plus not knowing who the final teams are would be fun to strategize around leading up to the finale. 

 

 

That's way to messy IMO. Just change it to the winning team gets to vote in people on the team that finished last and the team that finished 2nd votes in their own team

The problem with straight up team games , is they get lopsided and encourage throwing the same people in over and over. That creates boring television. 

Yeah but wouldn't this create the same. I mean, Eric was always going to be picked last and people are still going to pick their friends so they have the numbers for the vote. I agreed it's annoying seeing the same people go in that's why the winning team needs more power IMO. I liked the Infernos and Gauntlets when the other team voted someone in personally. 

I think the WOTW 2 switching teams twist might work well with a cutthroat format maybe mix that with the relic

They are taking their little nickname way to serious the 5th American sport yikes

We really need Sophia. 

Sigh once again this is a REALITY show

They are taking their little nickname way to serious the 5th American sport yikes

Same with the casuals lol

Imagine Sophia Pasquis making her 2nd final and winning it. My lifelong dream would be realized.  

The fifth sport thing needs to be done away with. 

Sophia can take Kaycee's spot.

When we need Shaleen the most, we can't have her.

They are taking their little nickname way to serious the 5th American sport yikes

I'm assuming this is based on casting news. So we should expect the rookies to be more Lio's & Lolo's who probably can't handle the environment?

I've always looked at competition driven reality shows as more of a sport than anything--it's about strategy & competition.  That alone should naturally create drama.

When we need Shaleen the most, we can't have her.

I know that's right!

They totally lost their identity with this show and it's killed it. 

Need to see Bananas, Nam, Tony on the likely list. Bring back the kill card and let's have Free Agents 2 

they had a good deal going with wotw1-total madness. i wish the wotw1 rookies never got banned, cause we'd have a quality season going rn if they were still being casted

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