The Challenge: Spies, Lies and Allies ( Pointless early speculation)

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a lot of people would be champions if you remove swimming from all the finals, i'm just saying

Puzzles too!

Just say you want Leroy to win lol

now if you take out math? cory would have a high chance at winning TM

i'm not even gonna complain about swimming, people like Nelson have gotten better at it because they practice after flopping one time in it. it's a good workout anyway, just go swimming **** 

Nelson don't count cause he got a perm which automatically makes him mixed which makes him more able to swim. People shouldn't have to chemically process their hair to do well on this show.

 

 

Turbo is white ****. let's not rehash the Race/Ethnicity/Nationality debate we had when he debuted lol 

im not trying to hash a debate. im just curious why this would be the case. Turkey neighbors Syria, Iraq, Iran, etc and most people would not consider anyone from those countries to be white. It's 95% in Asia, not Europe...

because all those are places, those are nationalities. people from all races can be born in a country it's not a determining factor. even on a Nationalistic scale Turkey's largest city is in Europe and they applied for European Membership. But even with all that where a person is born is not indicative of race 

Got it, makes sense. I guess I always viewed Turkey as like a "grey area" between Europe and the middle east. But I suppose with its European influence and a lot of people like Turbo being white-passing, that makes sense

a lot of people would be champions if you remove swimming from all the finals, i'm just saying

they need to train for it.... 

I wish they would alternate between team, pair and individual seasons. 

This. 

a lot of people would be champions if you remove swimming from all the finals, i'm just saying

they haven't even done swimming in a final since invasion. I guess WOTW2 but it didn't count

It's much easier to get better at swimming then to become good at math/puzzles.  Derrick could practices puzzles all day every day and he's still not solving one.

 

 

a lot of people would be champions if you remove swimming from all the finals, i'm just saying

Puzzles too!

Just say you want Leroy to win lol

I was joking and I don't like Leroy

Ya'll want swimming, math, and puzzles removed from finals? **** what exactly are they going to do then, just run?

Ya'll want swimming, math, and puzzles removed from finals? **** what exactly are they going to do then, just run?

Cooking contests, dancing, singing, and track

Ya'll want swimming, math, and puzzles removed from finals? **** what exactly are they going to do then, just run?

i wouldn't be opposed to that, i mean that was basically the cutthroat final 

Ya'll want swimming, math, and puzzles removed from finals? **** what exactly are they going to do then, just run?

Pull a fittest couples and have the final decided by a reverse tug of war 

I personally think they should do more Survivor-esque things on a final to even the playing field. Balance on tiny platform or whatever, mental toughness type of stuff, so that if you lose first you get time penalties or something

There's no excuse if you don't know how to swim if your on The Challenge multiple times, knowing that there are swimming challenges every season... 

 

Ya'll want swimming, math, and puzzles removed from finals? **** what exactly are they going to do then, just run?

Pull a fittest couples and have the final decided by a reverse tug of war 

lolol

Ya'll want swimming, math, and puzzles removed from finals? **** what exactly are they going to do then, just run?

Might as welll do a 40 yard sprint so Cory can win one

Although knowing Cory he'd fall and somehow still lose

add in a hairdressing stage for kam

 

Ya'll want swimming, math, and puzzles removed from finals? **** what exactly are they going to do then, just run?

i wouldn't be opposed to that, i mean that was basically the cutthroat final 

i dont think puzzles will ever not be included. i like that they do eating. and like i said i think some mental toughness "who wants it the most" type of challenges would even the playing field

swimming and kayaking are ok i guess but mixing it up would be cool. 

I wouldn't mind a mind a final similar to a TAR FINAL. Involving the culture of the location, running through a city, and taking taxis lol. That'd be refreshing actually. I remember we thought bloodlines would be like that

 

Ya'll want swimming, math, and puzzles removed from finals? **** what exactly are they going to do then, just run?

Cooking contests, dancing, singing, and track

lol i mean

This is incredibly weird but does anyone ever watch the eating challenges and wish they could eat it like the stuff on rivals 2

The final should just be the elimination nany and Kelly anne did with mattresses only like a mile apart 

This is incredibly weird but does anyone ever watch the eating challenges and wish they could eat it like the stuff on rivals 2

isn't that the one where they had to finish a ridiculous amount of food?

i personally think that's too much. they can get seriously ill from eating that much while running that much. i would much rather eat gross shit than eat like 5 pounds of food while dying from just running a half marathon lol

Ya'll want swimming, math, and puzzles removed from finals? **** what exactly are they going to do then, just run?

i wouldn't be opposed to that, i mean that was basically the cutthroat final 

I like the Cutthroat and The Ruins finals the best.  There doesn't "need" to be swimming but puzzles are important IMO.  Even if it's just memorization.

 

This is incredibly weird but does anyone ever watch the eating challenges and wish they could eat it like the stuff on rivals 2

isn't that the one where they had to finish a ridiculous amount of food?

i personally think that's too much. they can get seriously ill from eating that much while running that much. i would much rather eat gross shit than eat like 5 pounds of food while dying from just running a half marathon lol

It didn't even look like that much food tbh. Wasn't it steak, bread, salads and potatos?

 

This is incredibly weird but does anyone ever watch the eating challenges and wish they could eat it like the stuff on rivals 2

isn't that the one where they had to finish a ridiculous amount of food?

i personally think that's too much. they can get seriously ill from eating that much while running that much. i would much rather eat gross shit than eat like 5 pounds of food while dying from just running a half marathon lol

You know it's weird how I would be fine eating any of the gross stuff on the rivals 2 final or dirty 30 redemption house game but slightly burnt toast is where I draw the line

 

 

This is incredibly weird but does anyone ever watch the eating challenges and wish they could eat it like the stuff on rivals 2

isn't that the one where they had to finish a ridiculous amount of food?

i personally think that's too much. they can get seriously ill from eating that much while running that much. i would much rather eat gross shit than eat like 5 pounds of food while dying from just running a half marathon lol

It didn't even look like that much food tbh. Wasn't it steak, bread, salads and potatos?

Your thinking of rivals 1. Rivals 2 is the one I'm talking about

 

 

 

Turbo is white ****. let's not rehash the Race/Ethnicity/Nationality debate we had when he debuted lol 

im not trying to hash a debate. im just curious why this would be the case. Turkey neighbors Syria, Iraq, Iran, etc and most people would not consider anyone from those countries to be white. It's 95% in Asia, not Europe...

because all those are places, those are nationalities. people from all races can be born in a country it's not a determining factor. even on a Nationalistic scale Turkey's largest city is in Europe and they applied for European Membership. But even with all that where a person is born is not indicative of race 

Got it, makes sense. I guess I always viewed Turkey as like a "grey area" between Europe and the middle east. But I suppose with its European influence and a lot of people like Turbo being white-passing, that makes sense

The way the rest of the world and the US look at race its different. I dont think Turbo would consider himself anything bout turkish. But, definitively, not asian.

This is incredibly weird but does anyone ever watch the eating challenges and wish they could eat it like the stuff on rivals 2

isn't that the one where they had to finish a ridiculous amount of food?

i personally think that's too much. they can get seriously ill from eating that much while running that much. i would much rather eat gross shit than eat like 5 pounds of food while dying from just running a half marathon lol

It didn't even look like that much food tbh. Wasn't it steak, bread, salads and potatos?

Yeah, that was Rivals--it just seemed like a good meal.   Rivals 2 was in the fenced in area with much more disgusting food.  

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