Challengetea said the elimination is called The Crater. I'm not sure how I feel about it but I guess it's not as extra as The Killing Floor.
The Crater sounds more appropriate for War of the Worlds with the whole idea of worlds colliding. They are so dumb. If they wanted to use The Killing Floor they should have used it for this season since it's closer to the spy theme.
jordan still needs 1 more win to be considered a goat imo. but out of all the new school people other than ashley m (cara I guess?), he's number 1 and it's not very close. can't think of another guy even in his league in this generation.
ct would also have wins in inferno 1 and 2 had darrell not been there. it really just shows how bad cory and fessy are (kyle but didnt run this final) they couldn't beat ct.
who is your top person than? assuming bananas?
wes has embarassed himself so much the lsat few seasons he's behind jordan all time.
the elite guys all time are ct, bananas, darrell. that's it.
and is it universally agreed w ct winning he's the best of all time now?
i'd love it bc it would get bananas ********
Not even slightly
I think with his win, it just shows me that CT was always his biggest enemy and that there should never be a debate about the GOAT. Everyone up for debate has huge weaknesses.
if ct (or darrell) ever did the amount of challenges bananas did they'd already be the goat. bananas is literally considered that bc hes done 500 challenges so of course he has the most wins.
but yeah, CT post invasion has been the best challenger by far. he literally only went home on a flukey 3 way elimination and the Jay challenge.
CT has only done like 2 less seasons than Bananas, and it's not like he had a chance of winning the WOTW final anyways. He needed to win in more in his prime to even be close to the level of Jordan, who could easily have 10 wins if he did 20 seasons, and he's been in a more competitive era than Johnny won most of his in
That is my point tho. CT could have easily won Duel 1, Inferno 3, Gauntlet 3, BotE and come really far in Duel 2 while being in his prime. I know excuses and shoulda, woulda, coulda but still. And I believe the longer you let CT stay, the stronger he becomes because he has time to train. This season will be the same even if he had Big T.
Jordan is great (top 3 in finals ever) but he is and will always be dead-last when it comes to physical one-on-one elimination rounds where you have to use two hands. If he did more seasons, his faith would become like Bananas/ Wes etc, he is not trustworthy and very hard to beat in a final but if you send him in and get an elimination that's not stamina based, it's over.
But with this who's better talk, we will just talk in circles now and it's kinda pointless lol
I can agree that it was a minor miracle CT took 9 seasons to win. It's actually insane to think he's winning more now when the cast is (usually) stronger than it used to be and there aren't team seasons where 25%+ of the cast would win. His resume COULD be insane, he lost the first inferno where more players helped with the crossword in the final, the second inferno where more players hurt them since there was so much running, The Duel because of a dumb DQ, Gauntlet 3 because of the 1 single time in the history of the show where every team member had to finish, and his team won inferno 3 after his DQ where they arguably got weaker by having Derrick instead. With a little luck he could have won three of those and now been tied with Bananas at 7 wins.
Even still it's hard to argue who the GOAT is when people have done so many different amount of seasons. Bananas has the most wins but is also the 'luckiest' player ever and should only have maybe 3 or 4, and has been an average at best competitor in quite a few of his seasons.Then there's someone like CT who used to be unlucky and could have 7 too, and has probably been a top 3 male on every season up to XXX. And then people like Landon, Alton, Darrell & Jordan who could all, based on their records, have a dozen wins if they did this for 15 years straight like Bananas has
jordan still needs 1 more win to be considered a goat imo. but out of all the new school people other than ashley m (cara I guess?), he's number 1 and it's not very close. can't think of another guy even in his league in this generation.
ct would also have wins in inferno 1 and 2 had darrell not been there. it really just shows how bad cory and fessy are (kyle but didnt run this final) they couldn't beat ct.
who is your top person than? assuming bananas?
wes has embarassed himself so much the lsat few seasons he's behind jordan all time.
the elite guys all time are ct, bananas, darrell. that's it.
Bananas has literally never been the best guy on any season besides Rivals 3(the worst cast of all time) and arguably Free Agents since we didn't see too much of CT who lost in a puzzle and Jordan decided to eliminate himself. Plus that 0-7 elimination record in a 6 season span is literally a record for worst six season span of all time. If Bananas qualifies as elite than so do Landon, Alton, Jordan, Abe, Miz, Brad, Zach, Theo, Turbo, Derrick, Kenny, Evan and several others who are better than him, but haven't had 20 seasons and production helping them out.
jordan still needs 1 more win to be considered a goat imo. but out of all the new school people other than ashley m (cara I guess?), he's number 1 and it's not very close. can't think of another guy even in his league in this generation.
ct would also have wins in inferno 1 and 2 had darrell not been there. it really just shows how bad cory and fessy are (kyle but didnt run this final) they couldn't beat ct.
who is your top person than? assuming bananas?
wes has embarassed himself so much the lsat few seasons he's behind jordan all time.
the elite guys all time are ct, bananas, darrell. that's it.
Bananas has literally never been the best guy on any season besides Rivals 3(the worst cast of all time) and arguably Free Agents since we didn't see too much of CT who lost in a puzzle and Jordan decided to eliminate himself. Plus that 0-7 elimination record in a 6 season span is literally a record for worst six season span of all time. If Bananas qualifies as elite than so do Landon, Alton, Jordan, Abe, Miz, Brad, Zach, Theo, Turbo, Derrick, Kenny, Evan and several others who are better than him, but haven't had 20 seasons and production helping them out.
who cares how good you are in dailies if you don't win, that's the point of the show
the only ones who have the "would have been goat with more seasons" excuse are darrell and landon, sorta ct and jordan is very close.
jordan still needs 1 more win to be considered a goat imo. but out of all the new school people other than ashley m (cara I guess?), he's number 1 and it's not very close. can't think of another guy even in his league in this generation.
ct would also have wins in inferno 1 and 2 had darrell not been there. it really just shows how bad cory and fessy are (kyle but didnt run this final) they couldn't beat ct.
who is your top person than? assuming bananas?
wes has embarassed himself so much the lsat few seasons he's behind jordan all time.
the elite guys all time are ct, bananas, darrell. that's it.
Bananas has literally never been the best guy on any season besides Rivals 3(the worst cast of all time) and arguably Free Agents since we didn't see too much of CT who lost in a puzzle and Jordan decided to eliminate himself. Plus that 0-7 elimination record in a 6 season span is literally a record for worst six season span of all time. If Bananas qualifies as elite than so do Landon, Alton, Jordan, Abe, Miz, Brad, Zach, Theo, Turbo, Derrick, Kenny, Evan and several others who are better than him, but haven't had 20 seasons and production helping them out.
Let's just say your a Bananas hater, so your opinion is always going to be bias towards him. He has the most wins so you can't say he isnt good at this game. It's even more impressive if its true what your claiming that he wasn't even the best player on the season, but still managed to win. I definitely think there were a few seasons where he was in such excellent shape he could have beat almost anyone in the finals. Rivals 1( even know CT was the best guy on that season in my opinion), Exes 1, & Free Agents. Let's say CT doesn't come on Cutthroat & embarrass Bananas in that elimination the blue team with Bananas, Jenn, Emily & Derrick probably beat the red team in that final. Then if there is a Key West team on season 23 when Bananas has been on a winning streak. There's a pretty good chance team Key West wins this season over San Diego. So he could easily have two more wins. Also if he is in good shape on Rivals 2 him & Frank probably take that season. But I will agree with you on one thing if Landon is on a lot more seasons I think he would be the best & have a lot more wins. But he didn't so it's hard to say he is the best with no actual proof. Then Alton was a beast, but then looked horrible on season 23. Letting Zach & Frank basically bully him into leaving instead of going in & kicking their ***** in eliminations. Of the current cast only Jordan has a chance to be one of the best challengers ever because of how dangerous he is in finals. Easy solution to that is send him into physical eliminations, so he doesn't see the finals. Right now the best people to do the challenge Bananas, CT, Darrell, Landon, Jordan, Kenny ( that turn around on Fresh Meat 2 was epic). Landon in my opinion is the best overall athlete to be on the show for the guys. But that also doesn't mean you have a great political game. That's why the challenge is so good you need both to be a great player.
I'm still very curious to see what type of elimination Kam beat Ashley in tbh...I kind of hope it's a puzzle just to end the debate on who is better at them
Pretty sure I remember PR saying it wasn't physical. I do think Ashley is overall better in puzzles regardless. Kam is much better in eliminations though.
If this season is doing repeat eliminations i feel like it's the one Tori and Anessa did...I have a gut feeling it was that elimination for some reason.
Why is Liv giving me Kayleigh vibes...she kind of has the body type Kayleigh had in vendettas just a little bit more built.. She's gonna have a similar record like her watch...Leaves kinda early on her first season and then comes back the next season and shows out in eliminations but the only thing is I could probably see liv making a final rather than Kayleigh
I wonder what theresa vs Kaycee was... still mad about that. Well if it was a double girls day it possibly was oh ring so theresa losing to Kaycee in that makes sense
In terms of Challenge GOATs, 7 wins is tough to overcome tbh. I get the case that some of his wins are fluky, but 7 wins is tough to beat. With this win, I personally have CT above Bananas. Wes has done damage of thhe past few seasons but cannot ignore the beginning of his career which was probably the best start to a career ever. Jordan is up there. Landon and Darrell up in that class as well. IMO those 6 are the top 6.
I'm still very curious to see what type of elimination Kam beat Ashley in tbh...I kind of hope it's a puzzle just to end the debate on who is better at them
It wasn't a puzzle or physical contact it sounded different from the ones we have revealed
Why is Liv giving me Kayleigh vibes...she kind of has the body type Kayleigh had in vendettas just a little bit more built.. She's gonna have a similar record like her watch...Leaves kinda early on her first season and then comes back the next season and shows out in eliminations but the only thing is I could probably see liv making a final rather than Kayleigh
Why is Liv giving me Kayleigh vibes...she kind of has the body type Kayleigh had in vendettas just a little bit more built.. She's gonna have a similar record like her watch...Leaves kinda early on her first season and then comes back the next season and shows out in eliminations but the only thing is I could probably see liv making a final rather than Kayleigh
When has Kayleigh shows out in eliminations?
Final Reckoning but I'd argue Kam did most of the work but doing the plunge in that water tank in the cold African night isn't easy.
The Crater sounds more appropriate for War of the Worlds with the whole idea of worlds colliding. They are so dumb. If they wanted to use The Killing Floor they should have used it for this season since it's closer to the spy theme.
GDinstall
jordan still needs 1 more win to be considered a goat imo. but out of all the new school people other than ashley m (cara I guess?), he's number 1 and it's not very close. can't think of another guy even in his league in this generation.
ct would also have wins in inferno 1 and 2 had darrell not been there. it really just shows how bad cory and fessy are (kyle but didnt run this final) they couldn't beat ct.
who is your top person than? assuming bananas?
wes has embarassed himself so much the lsat few seasons he's behind jordan all time.
the elite guys all time are ct, bananas, darrell. that's it.
i see the vision here
I can agree that it was a minor miracle CT took 9 seasons to win. It's actually insane to think he's winning more now when the cast is (usually) stronger than it used to be and there aren't team seasons where 25%+ of the cast would win. His resume COULD be insane, he lost the first inferno where more players helped with the crossword in the final, the second inferno where more players hurt them since there was so much running, The Duel because of a dumb DQ, Gauntlet 3 because of the 1 single time in the history of the show where every team member had to finish, and his team won inferno 3 after his DQ where they arguably got weaker by having Derrick instead. With a little luck he could have won three of those and now been tied with Bananas at 7 wins.
Even still it's hard to argue who the GOAT is when people have done so many different amount of seasons. Bananas has the most wins but is also the 'luckiest' player ever and should only have maybe 3 or 4, and has been an average at best competitor in quite a few of his seasons.Then there's someone like CT who used to be unlucky and could have 7 too, and has probably been a top 3 male on every season up to XXX. And then people like Landon, Alton, Darrell & Jordan who could all, based on their records, have a dozen wins if they did this for 15 years straight like Bananas has
Bananas has literally never been the best guy on any season besides Rivals 3(the worst cast of all time) and arguably Free Agents since we didn't see too much of CT who lost in a puzzle and Jordan decided to eliminate himself. Plus that 0-7 elimination record in a 6 season span is literally a record for worst six season span of all time. If Bananas qualifies as elite than so do Landon, Alton, Jordan, Abe, Miz, Brad, Zach, Theo, Turbo, Derrick, Kenny, Evan and several others who are better than him, but haven't had 20 seasons and production helping them out.
Jordan is better that John i don't even think it's close, context matters a lot
who cares how good you are in dailies if you don't win, that's the point of the show
the only ones who have the "would have been goat with more seasons" excuse are darrell and landon, sorta ct and jordan is very close.
Let's just say your a Bananas hater, so your opinion is always going to be bias towards him. He has the most wins so you can't say he isnt good at this game. It's even more impressive if its true what your claiming that he wasn't even the best player on the season, but still managed to win. I definitely think there were a few seasons where he was in such excellent shape he could have beat almost anyone in the finals. Rivals 1( even know CT was the best guy on that season in my opinion), Exes 1, & Free Agents. Let's say CT doesn't come on Cutthroat & embarrass Bananas in that elimination the blue team with Bananas, Jenn, Emily & Derrick probably beat the red team in that final. Then if there is a Key West team on season 23 when Bananas has been on a winning streak. There's a pretty good chance team Key West wins this season over San Diego. So he could easily have two more wins. Also if he is in good shape on Rivals 2 him & Frank probably take that season. But I will agree with you on one thing if Landon is on a lot more seasons I think he would be the best & have a lot more wins. But he didn't so it's hard to say he is the best with no actual proof. Then Alton was a beast, but then looked horrible on season 23. Letting Zach & Frank basically bully him into leaving instead of going in & kicking their ***** in eliminations. Of the current cast only Jordan has a chance to be one of the best challengers ever because of how dangerous he is in finals. Easy solution to that is send him into physical eliminations, so he doesn't see the finals. Right now the best people to do the challenge Bananas, CT, Darrell, Landon, Jordan, Kenny ( that turn around on Fresh Meat 2 was epic). Landon in my opinion is the best overall athlete to be on the show for the guys. But that also doesn't mean you have a great political game. That's why the challenge is so good you need both to be a great player.
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Im shocked CT has won more seasons when he was fat then when he was in his prime lol
omg byyyee
I'm still very curious to see what type of elimination Kam beat Ashley in tbh...I kind of hope it's a puzzle just to end the debate on who is better at them
Pretty sure I remember PR saying it wasn't physical. I do think Ashley is overall better in puzzles regardless. Kam is much better in eliminations though.
Jordan is best of all time. Every single guy would be scared to go against him in a final. Dude doesn't stop running .
Won 3 straight seasons ******* king
And he's an ******* to literally everyone and they all hate him and he still wins.
If this season is doing repeat eliminations i feel like it's the one Tori and Anessa did...I have a gut feeling it was that elimination for some reason.
Why is Liv giving me Kayleigh vibes...she kind of has the body type Kayleigh had in vendettas just a little bit more built.. She's gonna have a similar record like her watch...Leaves kinda early on her first season and then comes back the next season and shows out in eliminations but the only thing is I could probably see liv making a final rather than Kayleigh
I wonder what theresa vs Kaycee was... still mad about that. Well if it was a double girls day it possibly was oh ring so theresa losing to Kaycee in that makes sense
Jay said Kaycee bottle her patellar tendon. The recovery time for that is about 6 months
I wanna see that video
Kam is hit or miss on puzzles I'll probably take Ashley on a Consistent level
That final must have been hard how did kaycee do that good lord
Wish Kaycee a recovery BUT if she's off a season or two maybe they will have found someone else to narrate by then/fit her role
In terms of Challenge GOATs, 7 wins is tough to overcome tbh. I get the case that some of his wins are fluky, but 7 wins is tough to beat. With this win, I personally have CT above Bananas. Wes has done damage of thhe past few seasons but cannot ignore the beginning of his career which was probably the best start to a career ever. Jordan is up there. Landon and Darrell up in that class as well. IMO those 6 are the top 6.
It wasn't a puzzle or physical contact it sounded different from the ones we have revealed
For the female GOATs is there much of a dispute? Laurel, Evelyn, Emily S, Coral, who am I missing
All i want is more Laurel in my life tbh. Perfect competitor and involved in drama
When has Kayleigh shows out in eliminations?
wait I dont remember kayleigh did lose any elimination Im pretty she got purge most of her season I mean all of her season she have done
Final Reckoning but I'd argue Kam did most of the work but doing the plunge in that water tank in the cold African night isn't easy.
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