I never saw the total madness final just spoilers so I was always thinking Kaycee only lost because Jenny was too superior. Amber b is even doing better than Kaycee in every single portion yikes
Yeah, CT was surpisingly confident about Amber and unlike with Big T, he didn't seem surprised by her performance. He predicted she would out run him.
Now it really makes sense why he didn't switch on her. He already knew she was gonna **** up in a puzzle and that was fine lol, but he felt she would be okay in other stages. He's alot of things but he isn't stupid (not anymore atleast ****)
Here's what I don't understand, why do people not want to see josh on another season? He literally carries the entertainment. Without him we lose out on so much drama l. Yeah he's a crybaby and he's annoying but that's what makes him so entertaining to watch. To a smaller degree I feel like even fessy had a personality this season. His ego will cause more drama with other cast mates in the future l. Better having these two then guys who just stand around and be nice to everyone.
Here's what I don't understand, why do people not want to see josh on another season? He literally carries the entertainment. Without him we lose out on so much drama l. Yeah he's a crybaby and he's annoying but that's what makes him so entertaining to watch. To a smaller degree I feel like even fessy had a personality this season. His ego will cause more drama with other cast mates in the future l. Better having these two then guys who just stand around and be nice to everyone.
Here's what I don't understand, why do people not want to see josh on another season? He literally carries the entertainment. Without him we lose out on so much drama l. Yeah he's a crybaby and he's annoying but that's what makes him so entertaining to watch. To a smaller degree I feel like even fessy had a personality this season. His ego will cause more drama with other cast mates in the future l. Better having these two then guys who just stand around and be nice to everyone.
Josh is good for a scene or two, then he starts getting annoying. For 37 Id replace him, Nany, Aneesa, and Kyle with Tony, Theo, Kam, and Cara Maria in a heartbeat.
Here's what I don't understand, why do people not want to see josh on another season? He literally carries the entertainment. Without him we lose out on so much drama l. Yeah he's a crybaby and he's annoying but that's what makes him so entertaining to watch. To a smaller degree I feel like even fessy had a personality this season. His ego will cause more drama with other cast mates in the future l. Better having these two then guys who just stand around and be nice to everyone.
This has to be an attempt at trolling. He's the worst thing to happen to The Challenge in probably a decade maybe longer
Here's what I don't understand, why do people not want to see josh on another season? He literally carries the entertainment. Without him we lose out on so much drama l. Yeah he's a crybaby and he's annoying but that's what makes him so entertaining to watch. To a smaller degree I feel like even fessy had a personality this season. His ego will cause more drama with other cast mates in the future l. Better having these two then guys who just stand around and be nice to everyone.
Josh is good for a scene or two, then he starts getting annoying. For 37 Id replace him, Nany, Aneesa, and Kyle with Tony, Theo, Kam, and Cara Maria in a heartbeat.
Tony is pretty much as bad as Josh but at least he's been gone for a while.
Here's what I don't understand, why do people not want to see josh on another season? He literally carries the entertainment. Without him we lose out on so much drama l. Yeah he's a crybaby and he's annoying but that's what makes him so entertaining to watch. To a smaller degree I feel like even fessy had a personality this season. His ego will cause more drama with other cast mates in the future l. Better having these two then guys who just stand around and be nice to everyone.
Josh is good for a scene or two, then he starts getting annoying. For 37 Id replace him, Nany, Aneesa, and Kyle with Tony, Theo, Kam, and Cara Maria in a heartbeat.
Tony is pretty much as bad as Josh but at least he's been gone for a while.
Tony's an ***** but I wouldnt put him down that low. I think he brings his presence alters the cast dynamic more than Josh. He's hungry for a win on the main show, and he's more likely to play that way than alotta vet names Ive seen thrown around.
Tony's an ***** but I wouldnt put him down that low. I think he brings his presence alters the cast dynamic more than Josh. He's hungry for a win on the main show, and he's more likely to play that way than alotta vet names Ive seen thrown around.
Fair enough--I'm likely in the minority here but there's very few people I'd like to see less than Tony
Tony's an ***** but I wouldnt put him down that low. I think he brings his presence alters the cast dynamic more than Josh. He's hungry for a win on the main show, and he's more likely to play that way than alotta vet names Ive seen thrown around.
Fair enough--I'm likely in the minority here but there's very few people I'd like to see less than Tony
Id assume Tony's a pretty polarizing figure. Whats your main issues with him?
Here's what I don't understand, why do people not want to see josh on another season? He literally carries the entertainment. Without him we lose out on so much drama l. Yeah he's a crybaby and he's annoying but that's what makes him so entertaining to watch. To a smaller degree I feel like even fessy had a personality this season. His ego will cause more drama with other cast mates in the future l. Better having these two then guys who just stand around and be nice to everyone.
Lol.. Quite the opposite from "carrying the entertainment", he's ruining the entertainment by stealing screentime from people. I don't think I've ever seen such a universal consensus among hardcore fans and casuals alike in that Josh is not entertaining and definitely not wanted.
Tony's an ***** but I wouldnt put him down that low. I think he brings his presence alters the cast dynamic more than Josh. He's hungry for a win on the main show, and he's more likely to play that way than alotta vet names Ive seen thrown around.
Fair enough--I'm likely in the minority here but there's very few people I'd like to see less than Tony
Id assume Tony's a pretty polarizing figure. Whats your main issues with him?
The way he speaks to and treats women (especially since he has daughters) is my primary issue but, truthfully, there's nothing I like about him. I'd almost rather have Dustin back--almost.
Tony's an ***** but I wouldnt put him down that low. I think he brings his presence alters the cast dynamic more than Josh. He's hungry for a win on the main show, and he's more likely to play that way than alotta vet names Ive seen thrown around.
Fair enough--I'm likely in the minority here but there's very few people I'd like to see less than Tony
Id assume Tony's a pretty polarizing figure. Whats your main issues with him?
The way he speaks to and treats women (especially since he has daughters) is my primary issue but, truthfully, there's nothing I like about him. I'd almost rather have Dustin back--almost.
What was so bad about Dustin? I remember he was very supportive of Nany and Trishelle. I don't remember him doing anything that bad
What is Leroy better than him at? Cory is better at dailys he's a better runner than Leroy you could argue Leroy is better at eliminations but I've yet to see him in something not physical I also think Cory is a better final runner
Tony's an ***** but I wouldnt put him down that low. I think he brings his presence alters the cast dynamic more than Josh. He's hungry for a win on the main show, and he's more likely to play that way than alotta vet names Ive seen thrown around.
Fair enough--I'm likely in the minority here but there's very few people I'd like to see less than Tony
Id assume Tony's a pretty polarizing figure. Whats your main issues with him?
The way he speaks to and treats women (especially since he has daughters) is my primary issue but, truthfully, there's nothing I like about him. I'd almost rather have Dustin back--almost.
What was so bad about Dustin? I remember he was very supportive of Nany and Trishelle. I don't remember him doing anything that bad
Dustin annoyed me much like Josh does. He played the victim all the time. Again, I realize many people like Dustin and Tony which is fine but I can't stand either one of them. I also think both believe they're much better competitors than they are which annoys me more than anything.
What is Leroy better than him at? Cory is better at dailys he's a better runner than Leroy you could argue Leroy is better at eliminations but I've yet to see him in something not physical I also think Cory is a better final runner
Neither can solve a puzzle to save their life. Leroy has never shown he didn't have endurance for a final--not once. Leroy is stronger and easier to work with. How is Cory better during missions? He didn't even compete in half of them this year. Cory's never done anything even remotely impressive IMO. I'd take any veteran other than Josh on this cast over him as a partner--even Kyle and Devin.
What is Leroy better than him at? Cory is better at dailys he's a better runner than Leroy you could argue Leroy is better at eliminations but I've yet to see him in something not physical I also think Cory is a better final runner
Cory is pretty **** good at eliminations too especially in the later seasons. Leroy is one of the best not champion players but I think Cory at this point in time has an edge over him. I honestly believe that if CT and Bananas retired years ago Cory would have had at the very least 1 championship but that's just hypothetical so at the moment he has none but I really don't like seeing people call him a flop. It doesn't bother me all that much but I just feel like it's a bit undeserved.
I just realized that Cory kinda like a Modern-day PC, toned down version of CT. Think About it. Both came on the show being pushed as faces and made the final in their first season. Got in a Phiycal altercation that saw them take Seasons off. Both have a kid they are doing it for. the only difference is CT is ten times the competitor cory is.
I honestly don't think Cory is that bad. Who has beaten him in finals? CT and Bananas the two literal best competitors in the last 10 seasons(excluding maybe jordan). And one loss to Cara Maria in a final that was kind of weird.
He has consistently come second in most finals he makes behind the literal best and honestly they kind of hoe'd him in Total Madness by giving him such a small lead the second day despite finishing with such a big lead the first day. I think Cory is possibly the best Challenger that hasn't won a season yet.
He lost with a male partner to Cara/Cousin then lost to CT/Nelson on his first 2 finals. Right?
Cory isn't even the best male in this final that hasn't won a season yet. Leroy is better.
That final against Cara was a weird final. It was purposely done that way to make it fair for teams with girls in it. WHich I'm okay with, it makes it fair for all teams. As for losing in Invasions, I don't think Nelly is that bad at finals either. He was only a few seconds behind CT according to production. It's not like he's losing to layups or anything. Bloodlines was his first final and he did better than Leroy did in Rivals 1 final, Leroy himself says that production made him look good and made Mike look bad. I didn't watch vendettas so I won't use that final in this conversation but in exes 2 I think he was just okay honestly. Nothing special about Leroy in finals, I believe Cory actually smoking everyone in the first half of the Total Madness final actually shows a lot about him.
EDIT: As for dailies, I actually think he's top tier in dailies but Leroy is pretty good too especially in clutch moments(Like the final rivals 1 daily). He won pretty much every daily in Bloodlines(most of them was because he was in a strong team but 2 of them were when he had mitch as a partner and they were back to back at the end of the season which guaranteed him a chance in the final).
I just realized that Cory kinda like a Modern-day PC, toned down version of CT. Think About it. Both came on the show being pushed as faces and made the final in their first season. Got in a Phiycal altercation that saw them take Seasons off. Both have a kid they are doing it for. the only difference is CT is ten times the competitor cory is.
I honestly don't think Cory is that bad. Who has beaten him in finals? CT and Bananas the two literal best competitors in the last 10 seasons(excluding maybe jordan). And one loss to Cara Maria in a final that was kind of weird.
He has consistently come second in most finals he makes behind the literal best and honestly they kind of hoe'd him in Total Madness by giving him such a small lead the second day despite finishing with such a big lead the first day. I think Cory is possibly the best Challenger that hasn't won a season yet.
He lost with a male partner to Cara/Cousin then lost to CT/Nelson on his first 2 finals. Right?
Cory isn't even the best male in this final that hasn't won a season yet. Leroy is better.
That final against Cara was a weird final. It was purposely done that way to make it fair for teams with girls in it. WHich I'm okay with, it makes it fair for all teams. As for losing in Invasions, I don't think Nelly is that bad at finals either. He was only a few seconds behind CT according to production. It's not like he's losing to layups or anything. Bloodlines was his first final and he did better than Leroy did in Rivals 1 final, Leroy himself says that production made him look good and made Mike look bad. I didn't watch vendettas so I won't use that final in this conversation but in exes 2 I think he was just okay honestly. Nothing special about Leroy in finals, I believe Cory actually smoking everyone in the first half of the Total Madness final actually shows a lot about him.
EDIT: As for dailies, I actually think he's top tier in dailies but Leroy is pretty good too especially in clutch moments(Like the final rivals 1 daily). He won pretty much every daily in Bloodlines(most of them was because he was in a strong team but 2 of them were when he had mitch as a partner and they were back to back at the end of the season which guaranteed him a chance in the final).
He won most of the Bloodlines missions because one team threw all of them :). Mitch also outperformed him by a ton in that final.
I'm not saying Cory is a "flop" (although he was in the middle of his "career") but he's not the best non-winner IMO. Leroy, Fessy, Theo, Nelson and Shane are better off the top of my head. Remember Shane may be the best swimmer in the history of the show. **** Cohutta and Kyle might be on that list ahead of Cory. It's all opinion but there's a lot of people that thave never won that I'd take as a partner before Cory.
I'm sure a lot of people would say Diem is the best female to never win and she wouldn't be in my top 20 of girls without a win. It's all opinion.
I never saw the total madness final just spoilers so I was always thinking Kaycee only lost because Jenny was too superior. Amber b is even doing better than Kaycee in every single portion yikes
And there were other checkpoints that wasn't shown afterwards
Yeah, CT was surpisingly confident about Amber and unlike with Big T, he didn't seem surprised by her performance. He predicted she would out run him.
Now it really makes sense why he didn't switch on her. He already knew she was gonna **** up in a puzzle and that was fine lol, but he felt she would be okay in other stages. He's alot of things but he isn't stupid (not anymore atleast ****)
Thank the heavens amber outperformed and they got that 30-40 minute lead that was enough time for amber to flop on the other puzzle.
Here's what I don't understand, why do people not want to see josh on another season? He literally carries the entertainment. Without him we lose out on so much drama l. Yeah he's a crybaby and he's annoying but that's what makes him so entertaining to watch. To a smaller degree I feel like even fessy had a personality this season. His ego will cause more drama with other cast mates in the future l. Better having these two then guys who just stand around and be nice to everyone.
Sorry I had to stop after the first couple sentences
becauuse none of it is real and contrived
Josh is good for a scene or two, then he starts getting annoying. For 37 Id replace him, Nany, Aneesa, and Kyle with Tony, Theo, Kam, and Cara Maria in a heartbeat.
Disagree 100%
This has to be an attempt at trolling. He's the worst thing to happen to The Challenge in probably a decade maybe longer
Tony is pretty much as bad as Josh but at least he's been gone for a while.
Tony's an ***** but I wouldnt put him down that low. I think he brings his presence alters the cast dynamic more than Josh. He's hungry for a win on the main show, and he's more likely to play that way than alotta vet names Ive seen thrown around.
Fair enough--I'm likely in the minority here but there's very few people I'd like to see less than Tony
Id assume Tony's a pretty polarizing figure. Whats your main issues with him?
Lol.. Quite the opposite from "carrying the entertainment", he's ruining the entertainment by stealing screentime from people. I don't think I've ever seen such a universal consensus among hardcore fans and casuals alike in that Josh is not entertaining and definitely not wanted.
If Josh is carrying the entertainment any longer this show is in trouble
A little Josh can be fun, in a "oh this guy is so dumb" kind of way, but like 10+ episodes of him being a main character is too much.
The way he speaks to and treats women (especially since he has daughters) is my primary issue but, truthfully, there's nothing I like about him. I'd almost rather have Dustin back--almost.
What was so bad about Dustin? I remember he was very supportive of Nany and Trishelle. I don't remember him doing anything that bad
What is Leroy better than him at? Cory is better at dailys he's a better runner than Leroy you could argue Leroy is better at eliminations but I've yet to see him in something not physical I also think Cory is a better final runner
Dustin annoyed me much like Josh does. He played the victim all the time. Again, I realize many people like Dustin and Tony which is fine but I can't stand either one of them. I also think both believe they're much better competitors than they are which annoys me more than anything.
Neither can solve a puzzle to save their life. Leroy has never shown he didn't have endurance for a final--not once. Leroy is stronger and easier to work with. How is Cory better during missions? He didn't even compete in half of them this year. Cory's never done anything even remotely impressive IMO. I'd take any veteran other than Josh on this cast over him as a partner--even Kyle and Devin.
Becauseeeee, the list is endless. And not even I feel like typing out all the reasons Josh needs to be gone lol.
Josh, what is 1 plus 1?
Cory is pretty **** good at eliminations too especially in the later seasons. Leroy is one of the best not champion players but I think Cory at this point in time has an edge over him. I honestly believe that if CT and Bananas retired years ago Cory would have had at the very least 1 championship but that's just hypothetical so at the moment he has none but I really don't like seeing people call him a flop. It doesn't bother me all that much but I just feel like it's a bit undeserved.
That final against Cara was a weird final. It was purposely done that way to make it fair for teams with girls in it. WHich I'm okay with, it makes it fair for all teams. As for losing in Invasions, I don't think Nelly is that bad at finals either. He was only a few seconds behind CT according to production. It's not like he's losing to layups or anything. Bloodlines was his first final and he did better than Leroy did in Rivals 1 final, Leroy himself says that production made him look good and made Mike look bad. I didn't watch vendettas so I won't use that final in this conversation but in exes 2 I think he was just okay honestly. Nothing special about Leroy in finals, I believe Cory actually smoking everyone in the first half of the Total Madness final actually shows a lot about him.
EDIT: As for dailies, I actually think he's top tier in dailies but Leroy is pretty good too especially in clutch moments(Like the final rivals 1 daily). He won pretty much every daily in Bloodlines(most of them was because he was in a strong team but 2 of them were when he had mitch as a partner and they were back to back at the end of the season which guaranteed him a chance in the final).
He won most of the Bloodlines missions because one team threw all of them :). Mitch also outperformed him by a ton in that final.
I'm not saying Cory is a "flop" (although he was in the middle of his "career") but he's not the best non-winner IMO. Leroy, Fessy, Theo, Nelson and Shane are better off the top of my head. Remember Shane may be the best swimmer in the history of the show. **** Cohutta and Kyle might be on that list ahead of Cory. It's all opinion but there's a lot of people that thave never won that I'd take as a partner before Cory.
I'm sure a lot of people would say Diem is the best female to never win and she wouldn't be in my top 20 of girls without a win. It's all opinion.
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