The Challenge: Double Agents - Spoilers Disscussion

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It sounds like CT did so well in the stages while all Amber B had to do is keep up with him. A well more balance pair than he is with Big T. But it also sounds like that puzzle portion could've possibly made a difference had they combine the times instead of coming up with that dumb twist that benefitted those two. Even though that's unfair to the other teams, can't ignore how it wouldn't happened had Nany not gave CT a free ride to the final.

But if they were combining time there was no way CT wouldn't have switched partners and if they didn't do that twist they still would have done well on the puzzle if that station was in pairs since CT would have solved that puzzle for them. It still would have come down to CT/Amber and Kam/Cory since individually CT/Kam are the best ones in puzzles.I still think in those both scenarios CT would have won that's MY OPINION. 

Ah, that's right. Forgot about the switching twist. Yeah, he's winning regardless. It just came down to who he chooses to win with

The young folks really lost to 40 year old men two seasons in a row.

Why is the final an hour long in the first part, but 90 minutes in the second one?

So with what PR just said to keep it simple- ct would probably switch to kam if everyone had individual times on the puzzle and kam/ct would've won with cory/amber being second, but if they just let them solve as a team the results of the season stay the same and their would be no "controversy" of the win. Did i get that right???

ugh, the part 2. 

That puzzle twist is weird and seems poorly thought out.

 

Sounds like Amber smoked all the other girls in endurance and the pre-puzzle portions though. 

I could be wrong but it sounds like CT had a Landon fresh meat 2/ Jordan DIrty 30 esque performance.

Didnt they show on last nights episode that amber made it first to the puzzle than everyone else? Plus kaycee was injured, nany is terrible at endurance. All she really had to do was beat kam. That  30-40 minutes that ct/amber was ahead of everyone doesnt seem too farfetched. Then CT didnt switch partners because they didnt want to lose the lead they had, is that correct?

Didnt they show on last nights episode that amber made it first to the puzzle than everyone else? Plus kaycee was injured, nany is terrible at endurance. All she really had to do was beat kam. That  30-40 minutes that ct/amber was ahead of everyone doesnt seem too farfetched. Then CT didnt switch partners because they didnt want to lose the lead they had, is that correct?

Also, he may not have been able to bring himself to do that. Because he would basically be telling Amber hey thanks for getting me here but you suck so I want someone else. That would almost be more heartless than stealing the money because at least Sarah and hunter still get the title.

I wonder how Kaycee got injured badly enough to need surgery. The preview made it seem like she was running and jumped down wrong, but I feel like if she tore her ACL she wouldn't be ready for the next season yet and she's been working out for a couple months now.

Wonder how Fessy will respond to that..

That puzzle twist is weird and seems poorly thought out.

 

Sounds like Amber smoked all the other girls in endurance and the pre-puzzle portions though. 

Idk about all the other checkpoints I was just told she has endurance

I wonder how Kaycee got injured badly enough to need surgery. The preview made it seem like she was running and jumped down wrong, but I feel like if she tore her ACL she wouldn't be ready for the next season yet and she's been working out for a couple months now.

Wonder how Fessy will respond to that..

Based on how it looks I would guess she had a grade 2 ankle sprain which takes about 6 weeks to heal and would be enough to take them out of the final.

 

Didnt they show on last nights episode that amber made it first to the puzzle than everyone else? Plus kaycee was injured, nany is terrible at endurance. All she really had to do was beat kam. That  30-40 minutes that ct/amber was ahead of everyone doesnt seem too farfetched. Then CT didnt switch partners because they didnt want to lose the lead they had, is that correct?

Also, he may not have been able to bring himself to do that. Because he would basically be telling Amber hey thanks for getting me here but you suck so I want someone else. That would almost be more heartless than stealing the money because at least Sarah and hunter still get the title.

Nah Ct is heartless you see how he screamed and gloated on top of his lungs when he switched to kam from big t. He just didnt switch because he was impressed with how amber kept up with him in the running part so even if she was slower on the puzzle he probably thought they would make back the time they lost after they finished that part.

 

It sounds like CT did so well in the stages while all Amber B had to do is keep up with him. A well more balance pair than he is with Big T. But it also sounds like that puzzle portion could've possibly made a difference had they combine the times instead of coming up with that dumb twist that benefitted those two. Even though that's unfair to the other teams, can't ignore how it wouldn't happened had Nany not gave CT a free ride to the final.

But if they were combining time there was no way CT wouldn't have switched partners and if they didn't do that twist they still would have done well on the puzzle if that station was in pairs since CT would have solved that puzzle for them. It still would have come down to CT/Amber and Kam/Cory since individually CT/Kam are the best ones in puzzles.I still think in those both scenarios CT would have won that's MY OPINION. 

l they keep ignoring it because they want the narrative that everybody is a hater, they keep lumping her with CT like we're pressed about both. like you said it sounds like she got to skip the thing she's bad at and got no punishment for it. you've got people on here saying "oh well she doesn't have to be because CT could do it" but the puzzle was independent so that logic falls apart.

they want to pick at every other thing accept admit it's ****** up she was allowed to be an absolute flop at what in most finals is an equalizer. if they're times were added up meaning they'd be judged as a PAIR like you said he wouldn't have picked her 

Damn I actually hate amber got carried to a win this season by CT. She can run that's about it. Every girl left is better 

Luckily for amber, she had CT. I think a good example would be Fresh meat 2. All Carely had to do was keep up with Landon a little bit and he could do everything else. It's the same way with CT.

Okay but what's the lava on the reunion?

All of y'all are jumping to conclusions on amber's performance all pr said was that she was told amber has good endurance and that was it

Either way the twist still sounds stupid anyway cause obviously it seems like the cast was confused and mad that amber didn't have to complete it but from what pr said it seems like everyone else had to do it even though all that mattered was ct finishing it first cause he got the decision to switch so why did anyone else even have to do it if it wasn't gonna do anything to the final times

All of y'all are jumping to conclusions on amber's performance all pr said was that she was told amber has good endurance and that was it

Okay, my name is literally ChallengeCTstan. Of course, I'm gonna hype up CT and disregard what amber did a little bit.

My guess is CT and Amber got a lead on an eating checkpoint; because even though CT is better than Kam at puzzles, I can't see him getting that big a jump on her. Same with endurance; nobody left is bad enough to give up that much time in running alone.

CT is leagues above the rest of them, not only on puzzles but even in eating and other stuff.

 

I wonder how Kaycee got injured badly enough to need surgery. The preview made it seem like she was running and jumped down wrong, but I feel like if she tore her ACL she wouldn't be ready for the next season yet and she's been working out for a couple months now.

Wonder how Fessy will respond to that..

Based on how it looks I would guess she had a grade 2 ankle sprain which takes about 6 weeks to heal and would be enough to take them out of the final.

I read somewhere that she tore her patellar tendon. She had surgery for it pretty soon after getting back. I'm shocked she's been able to rehab so quickly.

 

 

It sounds like CT did so well in the stages while all Amber B had to do is keep up with him. A well more balance pair than he is with Big T. But it also sounds like that puzzle portion could've possibly made a difference had they combine the times instead of coming up with that dumb twist that benefitted those two. Even though that's unfair to the other teams, can't ignore how it wouldn't happened had Nany not gave CT a free ride to the final.

But if they were combining time there was no way CT wouldn't have switched partners and if they didn't do that twist they still would have done well on the puzzle if that station was in pairs since CT would have solved that puzzle for them. It still would have come down to CT/Amber and Kam/Cory since individually CT/Kam are the best ones in puzzles.I still think in those both scenarios CT would have won that's MY OPINION. 

l they keep ignoring it because they want the narrative that everybody is a hater, they keep lumping her with CT like we're pressed about both. like you said it sounds like she got to skip the thing she's bad at and got no punishment for it. you've got people on here saying "oh well she doesn't have to be because CT could do it" but the puzzle was independent so that logic falls apart.

they want to pick at every other thing accept admit it's ****** up she was allowed to be an absolute flop at what in most finals is an equalizer. if they're times were added up meaning they'd be judged as a PAIR like you said he wouldn't have picked her 

but it would be weird for the puzzle to be individual in a pair final. 

Why do people assume the challenge is an official sport with set in stone rules lol. I think wes said it best back in rivals 2 when he said people forget this is an entertainment show first and foremost so production might have a hand in somethings that may make the season more interesting. He said they had to do extra checkpoints in the finals because they were over an hour ahead of the other teams. I guess production wanted it to be more competitive for better TV. Production will have a hand in doing something every single season to make better TV but I don't think they will specifically rig it for a specific individual to win.

If they wanted to Rig Cory and kam 100% should  have won, for societal reasons (right after BLM), both young, and both have a huge following. CT is on his way out soon, and amber was on her rookie season. I think CT and amber won fair and square but we'll see what happens next week.

Amber probably could've won with fessy to

Lol I doubt it. I see a difference in Fessy and CT as partners. CT has been doing this long enough, no matter how frustrated he gets at his partners, he doesn't like that deter him. He doesn't neglect his partners. Fessy is proven to be the opposite. He doesn't know how to carry someone, he doesn't know how to physically handle the situation when he has a partner that slips up. That is gonna be a problem and prevent a win. It def would have happened with Amber. CT is reckless with his mouth, but he still can carry someone as much as possible. He has literally ran with girls on his back in finals, He was the one pushing big easy as he was dying lol, he came through for Wes. He is actually helpful, he's just more intense. Fessy is too idoitic and egotistical to know how to work with someone who isn't on his level or is falling behind him.

lol people are so mad that CT is still better than the kids--and not just better but infinitely better.   CT would probably beat Cory and Leroy in a final at 60

I think people are mad at Amber all over again rather than CT lol. After how that hall brawl went with Fessy and Kyle, they can't lie and say it was to save CT anymore.

They should be mad at nany who made CT rogue. I really feel like fessy woulda taken out CT in hall brawl.

 

It sounds like CT did so well in the stages while all Amber B had to do is keep up with him. A well more balance pair than he is with Big T. But it also sounds like that puzzle portion could've possibly made a difference had they combine the times instead of coming up with that dumb twist that benefitted those two. Even though that's unfair to the other teams, can't ignore how it wouldn't happened had Nany not gave CT a free ride to the final.

But if they were combining time there was no way CT wouldn't have switched partners and if they didn't do that twist they still would have done well on the puzzle if that station was in pairs since CT would have solved that puzzle for them. It still would have come down to CT/Amber and Kam/Cory since individually CT/Kam are the best ones in puzzles.I still think in those both scenarios CT would have won that's MY OPINION. 

Yeah, I really have to do mental gymnastics to understand how that^ would give him extra benefit. It seems like either way, he was set. He isn't the one that got off lucky. And the time thing is completely hypothetical, its like looking for a reason to discredit the win, rather it truly being a set up.

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