Mattie was a drunk Reality TV character before coming to the challenge this Jennifer girl based off what i've seen is nothing of the sort. I just have to watch rookies before i can rank them but she already is better than what Mattie was
i know you like to have controversial opinions just to troll but like... she seriously beat him in every portion of that final. The helicopter, the puzzles, the running. All he did was eat, which men biologically have an advantage in. Just like biologically they should have the advantage in running but Ashley still smoked him in that.
Ibis--see Ibis
This nonsense about Ashley outracing Hunter is just that based on what we saw
so 1 female outate men and now all females can outeat men? I know your logic isn’t that flawed
In no world is that equation...the bias is getting worse and worse
Bias over what. You do realize Ashley is way more consistent in finals over Cara and blew away her winnings in just a few seasons???? I can’t stand Ninja but I’ll rate her as #1 for a team finale.
They did one final together and that was because Hunter carried Ashley while Cara was ruined by Marie. You're officially the dumbest person on this board--I'd give you a trophy if i could
There’s a 50/50 chance Cara flops at a puzzle on that variable alone Ashley is stronger in finals...
Last I checked Cara won an individual final because of a puzzle....
Pretty much anyone can fail at a puzzle. See Amanda at the start of WOTW--she probably never does that poorly again on a puzzle but it happens
Cara has been proven time and time again to be hit or miss with puzzles. Speaking of opening of WOTW, she would’ve been purged. And she got purged later in the final because of math. Cara is only good at puzzles cause she practices them, she’s not naturally smart like Ashley or Amanda.
And Amanda was awful with that puzzle as well. It's also ridiculous to say a veteran should have been purged. Cara beat about 4-5 girls, right? At least 3
Cara has proven she can do puzzles when it matters...math not so much. Ashley and Amanda are smarter but Cara's far stronger than both. There's balance
Amanda was middle of the pack, bad for her, but hardly bad.
I didnt watch Jenn's show soo lol. If she showed shes good at endurance then shes a contender obviously. Just thought she's so ripped that she would gas out
Ashley has beaten Cara in a final before people tend to forget that.. Also Ninja beat Cara so we dont know about NInja vs Ashley. However, Camila has beaten Cara and Ashley has beaten Camila therefore
Ashley=Ninja > Cara in a final
Ashley with Hunter vs Cara with Marie....you're a...fill in the blank
Ashley is the most overrated person ever to be on the show and you just proved that
and Ashley did better than Hunter individually in the final.. Cara couldnt have beaten ashley anyways and you just hate her so u cant admit it.
I hate Cara, but I admit she is a strong competitor that isn't the best at finals
Ashley absolutely did not do better than Hunter. See the eating portion alone would give him a huge lead. Why are you people trying to compare a final in which Cara ran with Marie and Ashley ran with Hunter. Cara has proven far more in finals than Ashley. You keep saying she isn't the best at finals. She's never done poorly on a final other than with Marie who can't even stand still or climb a down a rope
she beat him in every single portion but eating. And men can eat more than women
not sure what the point trying to be made is. Fact is Ashley showed up for her 2 finals and won. Doesn’t matter what they were, she rose to the occasion and got them done. She’s a threat in a final any way to cut it. We’ve never seen her tested in WOTW type final so not sure why you guys are making assumptions on her abilities there. She could very well have the heart to push through
Its a complete lie that she beat him in every other aspect of the final. Complete lie. Ibis proved women can eat far more and faster than men so you're wrong. Ashley is a threat in a final. Ninja proved more on WOTW than Ashley did in her two wins. That's not even debatable. What Ninja did on that 50 mile final clearly gives her the top spot with Cara being number 2. I pray we get a 4 person individual final with Ninja, Cara, Georgia and Ashley. I guarantee Ashley finishes last unless there's a partner phase.
You do realize someone was really trying to say Ashley > Cara because of Ashley/Hunter beat Cara/Marie--right? Please tell me you realize just how ridiculous that is....please.
complete lie? Lol where? He only ate. That’s the only thing he contributed, everything else she beat him. That’s not debatable, we all watched it. Ibis is an outlier. You watch sports. Do top male athletes get beaten by top female athletes in running? No. Same thing applies. Men are generally better eaters, that’s not debatable that’s just how it is.
I didn’t chime in anything about the Marie thing cause that is a dumb argument , but there’s plenty of evidence that many could argue that Ashley is a superior pick for a final than Cara. Cara’s lack of smarts is a big part of that. Ashley has never cracked under pressure with anything puzzles related in a final and Cara has several times.
Ill put it this way: Ashley beat Camila on invasion. Camila best Cara on dirty 30. Those 2 finals are VERY similar. I could easily see Ashley winning dirty 30 over Cara and Camila just like she won invasion.
Anyway, this is all pointless cause it’s all gonna depend on the type of final but I think we all can agree that top 4 threats for a final right now are ninja, Cara, Ashley, and Georgia.
She did not beat him in everything else. Rewatch Battle of the Sexes--women can outeat men not just Ibis.
Right, the Marie thing is a dumb argument yet it's being made. What evidence? There's no evidence. Cara's not highly intelligent but she's not an idiot. She's not Shauvon or anything. Ashley cracked under pressure in other things, no?
Both those finals, like FR, depended a lot on the partner you had at the time and what for.
Yes, we agree on the top 4 but not Ashley in the top 2. Put her at 3 and that's reasonable though I'd say 4
All I want now is a Ashley, Cara, Georgia & Ninja final 4 and it to be solely individual. I don't care about anything else at this point. Make it happen challenge Gods. And, please, make it a race for once.
If P/N had not grenades Joss/Sylvia, Ashley wouldn't have won FR.
Joss and Sylvia did win, let’s be real. That’s not the reason they “lost”. They lost because production wanted someone who would make a tv moment to win.
I highly doubt she even beat Hunter factoring in the food aspect where he ate a ton more, the worst finals are when it is timed but they don’t show time after each stage so they can’t pull the bs they did that season, Ashley is good but it bothers me how she always threatens to quit.
Ninja, Wes and Turbo all faltered. It was a tough final. But they all picked themselves up and carried on.
Georgia flopped at mile one and was down for the count.
Is that a contender or a layup ?
she paced poorly and was on mile 6 FYI. I personally chalk it up to rookie nerves. She was probably so anxious she pushed herself way too hard. But fact is she was in 2nd/3rd place and that alone was impressive.
She runs marathons competitively so she’s absolutely a threat especially now that she has experienced one before and won’t make the pacing mistake again
Mattie was a drunk Reality TV character before coming to the challenge this Jennifer girl based off what i've seen is nothing of the sort. I just have to watch rookies before i can rank them but she already is better than what Mattie was
So, you're holding the fact that the final was so tough two women couldn't finish it against Natalie doing well? THAT seems biased.
yeah her show is kind of akin to Survivor, it’s safe to assume the skill set carried over at least more so than people from dating shows
so 1 female outate men and now all females can outeat men? I know your logic isn’t that flawed
Exactly lol
Amanda was middle of the pack, bad for her, but hardly bad.
I didnt watch Jenn's show soo lol. If she showed shes good at endurance then shes a contender obviously. Just thought she's so ripped that she would gas out
She did not beat him in everything else. Rewatch Battle of the Sexes--women can outeat men not just Ibis.
Right, the Marie thing is a dumb argument yet it's being made. What evidence? There's no evidence. Cara's not highly intelligent but she's not an idiot. She's not Shauvon or anything. Ashley cracked under pressure in other things, no?
Both those finals, like FR, depended a lot on the partner you had at the time and what for.
Yes, we agree on the top 4 but not Ashley in the top 2. Put her at 3 and that's reasonable though I'd say 4
I’ll put it this way: if it’s an invasion type final my order would probably be: Ninja=Ashley, Georgia, Cara.
If it is a WOTW type final then I’d say, Ninja, Georgia, Cara, Ashley.
I rank Georgia so high just because I’ve seen her potential despite the WOTW mishap. End of the day, it simply comes down to the type of final it is.
All I want now is a Ashley, Cara, Georgia & Ninja final 4 and it to be solely individual. I don't care about anything else at this point. Make it happen challenge Gods. And, please, make it a race for once.
If it is like Invasion or Free Agents then it all depends on who gets what partner for what leg. Laurel almost lost because Zach was so bad
i meant more difficulty-wise rather than the whole partner thing. I just meant invasion/cutthroat/ruins difficulty level.
How many of this cast left smoke, if any?
Nany is the only full time smoker I think
Is everyone in here drunk?
Georgia is not even on the list...
The top threats in a final? She absolutely is on the list
Flopping and hallucinating at mile one is not a good look...
Ninja, Wes and Turbo all faltered. It was a tough final. But they all picked themselves up and carried on.
Georgia flopped at mile one and was down for the count.
Is that a contender or a layup ?
she paced poorly and was on mile 6 FYI. I personally chalk it up to rookie nerves. She was probably so anxious she pushed herself way too hard. But fact is she was in 2nd/3rd place and that alone was impressive.
She runs marathons competitively so she’s absolutely a threat especially now that she has experienced one before and won’t make the pacing mistake again
She was under hydrated very clearly, the girl needed to learn to drink water
Okay I was not aware that she runs marathons-news to me. So I will concede my point on this one then.
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Why haven’t we brought up Kayleigh’s name when discussing threats in a final.
I wonder
People are sleeping on her insta work out videos.
lmaooooooooooooo
When Kayleigh & Ashley both steal the money from their teams >>>>>
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