The Challenge: War of the Worlds II (Spoilers Discussion)- Part 1

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All CT's slow *** had to do was let go of one of the rings lmaooooo we still making excuses for that beached whale? What's going to be the excuse this season?

 

Why do people keep thinking that if he just dropped a ring that it would have just reset?   There's no facts behind that but, let's say you're right, that's all about him lacking strategy.  What's the beached whale comment for in that regard?   CT probably flopped this season.  I'm okay with that but the comment was about people, which apparently includes you, not comprehending why he was at a disadvantage there.  Disadvantages happen all the time in competition.  It's a reality--the objective is to overcome it--he failed.

What do you think they were going to do if all 3 had a ring, idiot? Stand there looking stupid & staring at each other? Lol

He's a beached whale b/c he's a beached whale.....who other than you related that to the elimination? He was at a disadvantage b/c he put himself at one. You're too old to not know when personal accountability is a factor or not.

I get what you’re saying Kevin. For example, I hate Zach, but I think a lot of people hold his performance on the FA final against him. As much as I don’t like him, I think he is still one of the best competitors around when he tries. 

Maybe the phrasing of the original poster (“losing respect”) is wrong. Main point is that when people underperform against someone they on paper clearly should’ve beaten like that it does make you question their abilities and question where they fall in the tiers of competitors. 

 

 

 

 

 

A win is a win. Doesn't matter how close it is

 

Why are you acting like someone even said it doesn't count..? People are definitely allowed to lose respect or gain respect for how someone competes in an elimination. I guess we aren't allowed to look at CJ is a good competitor because of how he performed against Zach on BotS2.

 

No one "loses respect" when they win.  No one.   A person can lose and gain respect--that is true but you can't win and lose respect--that's just dumb

 

The **** you cant. People sure as hell lost respect for Nany when she lost to Nia. People lost respect when Tony lost to Ammo, and I could keep going with a ton of examples. Happens all the time so honestly it's not dumb at all, don't know how that's even at all difficult to see.

 

Why are you citing examples of people losing?   The comment was "no one loses respect when they win".   You didn't provide a single example of that.  You provided two examples (one which doesn't even make sense) of people losing respect when they LOST.   So, again, yes, it's dumb.   Honestly, Nany lost respect for losing to Nia?   Did anyone really think before that elimination Nia could do that?   Watch The Ruins.   KellyAnne and Veronica really struggled.

 

That was actually my mistake for using those examples, I wasn’t thinking. I meant there have have people who won eliminations that should’ve really performed much better, like my original comment with Zach vs. CJ. And I’m not underestimating CJ.. but Zach could’ve and should’ve done what he did the very lost round. 

But that was adaptation and strategy...

I really think expectations are way too high for some people.  This is all about Lurker lying and saying Cara struggled against someone.  Who cares if Cara were to struggle against anyone?  Cara has proven herself countless times.  She could lose to someone like Kayleigh and it shouldn't "cost her respect" as a competitor.  She's established.  We can all enjoy watching her lose to someone we believe she should beat but this whole "respect" thing is killing me.  Respect as a competitor isn't diminished in one contest--for anything.  Unless you quit--then you lose respect IMO but if you struggle but find a way to overcome then I don't see a problem.  It's actually make me respect you more for the fight.

I get what you’re saying Kevin. For example, I hate Zach, but I think a lot of people hold his performance on the FA final against him. As much as I don’t like him, I think he is still one of the best competitors around when he tries. 

Maybe the phrasing of the original poster (“losing respect”) is wrong. Main point is that when people underperform against someone they on paper clearly should’ve beaten like that it does make you question their abilities and question where they fall in the tiers of competitors. 

You’re right, I only said “lose respect” for lack of better wording, but I didn’t know it’d be turned into an embarrassing, one-sided essay contest.

 

 

All CT's slow *** had to do was let go of one of the rings lmaooooo we still making excuses for that beached whale? What's going to be the excuse this season?

 

Why do people keep thinking that if he just dropped a ring that it would have just reset?   There's no facts behind that but, let's say you're right, that's all about him lacking strategy.  What's the beached whale comment for in that regard?   CT probably flopped this season.  I'm okay with that but the comment was about people, which apparently includes you, not comprehending why he was at a disadvantage there.  Disadvantages happen all the time in competition.  It's a reality--the objective is to overcome it--he failed.

 

What do you think they were going to do if all 3 had a ring, idiot? Stand there looking stupid & staring at each other?

He's a beached whale b/c he's a beached whale.....who other than you related that to the elimination? He was at a disadvantage b/c he put himself at one. You're too old to not know when personal accountability is a factor or not.

Wait--lol--I give up

If other teams found out that we barely beat a team of people who have never played soccer, I think they definitely would make fun of us which is a form of losing respect. Lol but it seems you’re more caught up on the phrasing rather than the concept itself. 

I get what you’re saying Kevin. For example, I hate Zach, but I think a lot of people hold his performance on the FA final against him. As much as I don’t like him, I think he is still one of the best competitors around when he tries. 

Maybe the phrasing of the original poster (“losing respect”) is wrong. Main point is that when people underperform against someone they on paper clearly should’ve beaten like that it does make you question their abilities and question where they fall in the tiers of competitors. 

That i can go along with but when we start talking about losing respect for someone when they won...I take issue with that.  At the end, if you won you got the job done regardless of how impressive or unimpressive it was.

If other teams found out that we barely beat a team of people who have never played soccer, I think they definitely would make fun of us which is a form of losing respect. Lol but it seems you’re more caught up on the phrasing rather than the concept itself. 

 

I get what you’re saying Kevin. For example, I hate Zach, but I think a lot of people hold his performance on the FA final against him. As much as I don’t like him, I think he is still one of the best competitors around when he tries. 

Maybe the phrasing of the original poster (“losing respect”) is wrong. Main point is that when people underperform against someone they on paper clearly should’ve beaten like that it does make you question their abilities and question where they fall in the tiers of competitors. 

 

That i can go along with but when we start talking about losing respect for someone when they won...I take issue with that.  At the end, if you won you got the job done regardless of how impressive or unimpressive it was.

But it doesn’t matter if you have an issue with it, others don’t. If they want to lose respect, that’s their right. No need to force your opinion and be so harsh about it.. that’s a way bigger issue.

If other teams found out that we barely beat a team of people who have never played soccer, I think they definitely would make fun of us which is a form of losing respect. Lol but it seems you’re more caught up on the phrasing rather than the concept itself. 

Words matter  Smile   

 

 

I get what you're saying Kevin. For example, I hate Zach, but I think a lot of people hold his performance on the FA final against him. As much as I don't like him, I think he is still one of the best competitors around when he tries. 

Maybe the phrasing of the original poster ("losing respect") is wrong. Main point is that when people underperform against someone they on paper clearly should've beaten like that it does make you question their abilities and question where they fall in the tiers of competitors. 

 

That i can go along with but when we start talking about losing respect for someone when they won...I take issue with that.  At the end, if you won you got the job done regardless of how impressive or unimpressive it was.

 

But it doesn't matter if you have an issue with it, others don't. If they want to lose respect, that's their right. No need to force your opinion and be so harsh about it.. that's a way bigger issue.

Just like you're taking issue with what I'm saying I can take issue with what you're saying.  This board all forces their opinions...you know that as well as anyone.  The fact is that I'm old school around here and I'm going to gravitate to those that have more of an old school vibe.   If you or anyone else "loses respect" for someone when the win because they didn't win "by as much" as you thought they should that's on you.  Go for it.  I'll comment on how I think it's stupid.  You can disagree and think I'm a ****.  All is good.

Maybe Zach won a twist that shot him straight to the finals early on...Bloody hell!

Maybe Zach won a twist that shot him straight to the finals early on...Bloody hell!

ew I hate how many times we’re gonna have to hear that phrase already lol

 

Once again, this is why no one bothers discussing anything with you 

 

Right, because you claim i don't concede anything which is exactly what you don't do.  The sad reality of this board is over the past 5-8 year is that if you don't like/hate the right people you're attacked.  That's all it is.

Honestly, have you ever played a competitive sport at a high level?   Simple question.  If so, what and at what level...

This true tho..

I really hope there is blood this season since it's named "Bloody Hell"

First time poster, don’t know if this was posted already but seems like Josh is out. 

First time poster, don’t know if this was posted already but seems like Josh is out. 

 

don't think so

 

Ah, didn't see that. Thanks for the heads up

Has the elimination arena been named the Bloodbath before?

Has Leroy ever been in the game this long without Johnny by his side? I'm actually really interested in seeing him compete now.. without Johnny I think he can be the fun, funny Leroy we saw on Rivals..  And I think he will be one of the main narrators this season which I wouldn't mind either.. 

I am so happy for Josh if he's still in the game! I follow him on instagram and it seemed like he was living in the gym, so I hope he's out there putting in work.  

leroy made it far without bananas, when he took him out twice in one season.thats why bananas befriended leroy, so he would quit whipping his butt

Has the elimination arena been named the Bloodbath before?

that's what they called the purge on invasion 

I think with Zach he seems to suck/lose focus when Jenna is there with him since they have most dysfunctional relationship of all time, maybe he will perform well without that distraction there.

It could of been a situation where it wasn’t clear what would happen so he may not have wanted to risk drop it, they really need to get rid of all these purges, double elimination, redemption house things, it really cheapens the game.

When the Bananas did the same, several finals in a row, no one called him a great competitor, but only said that all his finals are random. The simplest and banal reason why Cara will take place in the next final is that she is afraid to call on the ellimination, nothing more.Now Cara is a Bananas in the past,with only one difference-Cara will not win, even if it is to get into 5-6-7 final.

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Jordan vs ammo  was 3-0 but it was tough for Jordan because you had to peel the patch off each other’s body with ur hands... Jordan only has one band. He said he had to use his mouth to peel some off. He still won tho.

 

Simple, right?  But, no, apparently deeper lost respect for him because using logic is too complicated.

 

Jordan is excusable and maybe not the best example because of his handicap but the rest of my examples still hold true and there’s plenty more.

I don’t believe the number of rounds in that specific elimination since that was the one heavily edited in favor of Tori when Marie was holding her own and Kailah mentioned on a podcast recently how well Ammo did against Jordan. Funny now that I realize that the winners of that elim are Cringe Couple #2. 

Also yesssss to that pic being older than departure. Pots and Pans King will be this season’s Eimination King >>>>

When the Bananas did the same, several finals in a row, no one called him a great competitor, but only said that all his finals are random. The simplest and banal reason why Cara will take place in the next final is that she is afraid to call on the ellimination, nothing more.Now Cara is a Bananas in the past,with only one difference-Cara will not win, even if it is to get into 5-6-7 final.

the difference is that she has an elimination record to back herself up (even if it’s been a while since she won one) so no one likes to call her out. Plus she’s been winning dailies at the right times like the final daily on Vendettas and her winning like 4/5 of them on WOTW. Everyone hates her but they still fear her meanwhile John has lost more than he’s won and doesn’t have the social game he used to. 

Who didn't give John credit for making finals? John did a great job surrounding himself with people that would protect him and others knew if they called him out they'd be targeted by him and others. Complete respect. John's wins are a bit discredit or more accurately unimpressive. The Island was a joke of a season and he and Tyler won because of the restart on Rivals. Free Agents was a great win and he earned The Ruins but Cara could easily have more wins with a little luck like he's had. Cara has never really performed poorly on a final. Even Cutthroat she was good. Maybe WOTW but that was insane. Also, even when John was winning he showed signs of weakness (Cutthroat and G3) while Cara pretty much only loses if she runs into someone like Laurel in an elimination. Does Cara have a bad loss? We saw Jill and Pete were pretty damn good on FM2

Cara did not win a single elite girl, not one. She did not win a single strong girl either in the final or in the match.

Georgia got flung 

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