''Veronica doesn't care anymore" is such a sorry excuse lolShe does care like everyone else! If not she wouldnt get mad over them voting her into elimination. This is not 1999- early 2000s when Veronica was the IT political girl that they protected, she isnt on her prime physically anymore and they don't do team challenges anymore like the 3 she won.Now days she is just another version of Jemmye.
She is not another Jemmye. She still can hold her own. she beat Aneesa is that crazy large elimination thing, she won a challenge for her team last year, she even put up a great fight before her finger broke and no one scored any points yet when she was eliminated this season. She def isn't in her top physical shape like she used to be...but she is far from someone like Jemmye who is just plain bad at competitions and elminations.
''Veronica doesn't care anymore" is such a sorry excuse lolShe does care like everyone else! If not she wouldnt get mad over them voting her into elimination. This is not 1999- early 2000s when Veronica was the IT political girl that they protected, she isnt on her prime physically anymore and they don't do team challenges anymore like the 3 she won.Now days she is just another version of Jemmye.
I didn't say she doesn't care about the game. She doesn't care about stupid shit like the notes that you brought up. Veronica wouldn't have manipulated the show on XXX if she didn't care. She wouldn't have put up a fight against Anessa. Veronica has still not been taken out of the game since her return on anything other than a twist.Her app fee probably makes going home slightly more bearable though. I really don't get your hatred of Veronica
If they can get Darell, Landon, CT, Bananas, Abraham, Derrick K and Brad all on the same cast this will be a dominant male cast just like back in the day and add Wes to this
I must be the only one who doesn't really care for Abram....I hope fine *** Joss is on the final cast. I think he has the potential to make it to a final, and I want him to make it to one.
i think having both guys adds to the competition on the guys side. I don't think it'll be a cake walk for anyone.
The person that got an availability call, that seem to be open to do it and rumor has it may have a got a final call is no one other than The Challenge Goat Landon Lueck! Keep in mind things can change from here to next week and ppl usually get cold feets as it get closer like Coral did on Invasion a few days before leaving. So no one is 100% lock.
I was hoping for one of the lovely ladies like Coral, Beth, Rachel, Katie, etc...but this is exciting! I've always liked Landon and I like that these guys will have legit competition coming back! <3
Landon and Brad would be in an alliance IMO, they worked together up until the end of the Duel II with Mark and Evan. I could see Landon paying back Brad before a final though for revenge. Bananas is going to have a lot of work to do.
Speaking to the previous pages, CT is most well-rounded challenger that could easily make it to a final, no matter his shape. CT has the best combination of strength, agility, smarts & the ability to house food. Everyone is also still scared to send him into an elimination. In a way being allies/cordial with Bananas benefits his game. The young bucks group the vets together, but will always have Bananas as #1 on their list. There is no way your going to get rid of all of the vets before a final.
His only disadvantage at this this point/age would be endurance because of his shape, thus winning a final. Now I know he should be in better shape with all of his recent posts, but he's still not beating the following in a final as long as they remain endurance based for the majority:
Jordan/Darrell/Landon and probably Joss after his impressive season.CT/Bananas/Derrick/Brad/Zach would be the next Tier there.
I must be the only one who doesn't really care for Abram....I hope fine *** Joss is on the final cast. I think he has the potential to make it to a final, and I want him to make it to one.
i think having both guys adds to the competition on the guys side. I don't think it'll be a cake walk for anyone.
Which I like. Now we just need the girls cast to be like that.
Cashfl0w wrote:If Landon, Sarah, Bananas, CT and other old schoolers are really on this season, it’ll be interesting to see if they all work togetherAll the newbies better be in a group chat right now plotting as we speak
Brad and Landon are "friends" and one of the few ppl Landon knows. Devin has an obvious alliance with Brad. I think it will be interesting to say the least.
You must not have seen the duel 2 then because Landon stated many times how he felt backstabbed at the reunion by Brad. Landon got voted in by Brad, Evan, Mark into the final duel. Which caused him to get in his first ever alliance with Wes and Evelyn on Fresh Meat 2.
The duel 2 was like 10 years ago, Landon is over that and rumor has it Brad/Landon have been talking recently.
Not impressed with the Landon reveal. What a bore. He's great, but these old guys need to stop. They should be limited to heavy hitter appearances exclusively. We want fresh faces, fresh stoylines... the OGs are a snooze.
I must be the only one who doesn't really care for Abram....I hope fine *** Joss is on the final cast. I think he has the potential to make it to a final, and I want him to make it to one.
Honestly here for the Landon and Joss GOAT nice-guy alliance going 1 and 2.
I must be the only one who doesn't really care for Abram....I hope fine *** Joss is on the final cast. I think he has the potential to make it to a final, and I want him to make it to one.
Honestly here for the Landon and Joss GOAT nice-guy alliance winning 1 and 2
Of all the vets he will be the first one people will come after. Who's going to have his back besides MAYBE CT and Cara? Brad, Landon and Abe (if he's there) don't **** with him. Darrell will go to whatever side looks best for him and the newers guys all want him out. #TheCurse
Landon and Brad would be in an alliance IMO, they worked together up until the end of the Duel II with Mark and Evan. I could see Landon paying back Brad before a final though for revenge. Bananas is going to have a lot of work to do.Speaking to the previous pages, CT is most well-rounded challenger that could easily make it to a final, no matter his shape. CT has the best combination of strength, agility, smarts & the ability to house food. Everyone is also still scared to send him into an elimination. In a way being allies/cordial with Bananas benefits his game. The young bucks group the vets together, but will always have Bananas as #1 on their list. There is no way your going to get rid of all of the vets before a final.His only disadvantage at this this point/age would be endurance because of his shape, thus winning a final. Now I know he should be in better shape with all of his recent posts, but he's still not beating the following in a final as long as they remain endurance based for the majority:Jordan/Darrell/Landon and probably Joss after his impressive season.CT/Bananas/Derrick/Brad/Zach would be the next Tier there.
Landon is definitely the most well-rounded Challenger competitor. The only thing CT could beat Landon in back in the day was a physical elim, and even then I wouldn't expect it to be easy. Not really sure how CT would stack up against a lot of these guys nowadays due to his endurance. And I don't think CT would beat any of those guys running a final (maybe Zach)... I still don't think he beat Nelson on Invasion if we're being honest.
Landon and Brad would be in an alliance IMO, they worked together up until the end of the Duel II with Mark and Evan. I could see Landon paying back Brad before a final though for revenge. Bananas is going to have a lot of work to do.Speaking to the previous pages, CT is most well-rounded challenger that could easily make it to a final, no matter his shape. CT has the best combination of strength, agility, smarts & the ability to house food. Everyone is also still scared to send him into an elimination. In a way being allies/cordial with Bananas benefits his game. The young bucks group the vets together, but will always have Bananas as #1 on their list. There is no way your going to get rid of all of the vets before a final.His only disadvantage at this this point/age would be endurance because of his shape, thus winning a final. Now I know he should be in better shape with all of his recent posts, but he's still not beating the following in a final as long as they remain endurance based for the majority:Jordan/Darrell/Landon and probably Joss after his impressive season.CT/Bananas/Derrick/Brad/Zach would be the next Tier there.
Landon is definitely the most well-rounded Challenger competitor. The only thing CT could beat Landon in back in the day was a physical elim, and even then I wouldn't expect it to be easy. Not really sure how CT would stack up against a lot of these guys nowadays due to his endurance. And I don't think CT would beat any of those guys running a final (maybe Zach)... I still don't think he beat Nelson on Invasion if we're being honest.
Sorry if I didn't clarify, I meant CT is the most well-rounded to have an easy road to a final, not win one. If he makes it to a final, he is going to have a really tough time with those other elites.
When it comes to Darrell, Jordan, Bananas, etc, they have an extremely great shot to win, but there are few holes in their game that could be exposed and get them eliminated before a final.
I would say CT/Landon are interchangeable for having the easiest road to a final.
Sarah also mentioned that she will have no allegiances and stab people in the back. aka talking as if she's leaving instead and then added a "hypothetically" right afterwards. Throwback to when we thought she was Melinda on Rivals 3
She clearly doesn’t plan on staying long the ! Can’t wait fior Legend Jenna to beat her in a puzzle with one working leg and brain cell!
I think Abe is insane and he doesn't do much for me...but I'd love to see him with Queen V, Shane, Darrell, Brad, and Landon...that would be a fun dynamic. And then if they wouldn't be stupid and pay Coral what she deserves and Rachel then would see the old school crowd back and get her it'd be heaven. <3
Giving Joss a lot in this thread, we saw him run up a mountain and do good in elimination. Outside of him being hot he hasn’t defenitely proven anything, he could be dumb
I see him like a Darrell type competitor. Amazing endurance and strength. We haven't seen him do puzzles but he looked like he didn't even sweat going up the mountain and he put up an incredible fight with Derrick. Those are characteristics that can bring you to a final if you play carefully so he's definitely worth the hype
Giving Joss a lot in this thread, we saw him run up a mountain and do good in elimination. Outside of him being hot he hasn’t defenitely proven anything, he could be dumb
I think he said he was probably dumb when he compared himself to Devin, as with a lot of other cast members who can't really do puzzles. IDK, running up a mountain/mini-final like he did and showing out vs. Derrick shoots up the ranks immediately, especially when other castmembers (aka Johnny) give you a ton of credit.
Giving Joss a lot in this thread, we saw him run up a mountain and do good in elimination. Outside of him being hot he hasn’t defenitely proven anything, he could be dumb
I think he said he was probably dumb when he compared himself to Devin, as with a lot of other cast members who can't really do puzzles. IDK, running up a mountain/mini-final like he did and showing out vs. Derrick shoots up the ranks immediately, especially when other castmembers (aka Johnny) give you a ton of credit.
oh I thinks he’s intimidating in the sense that if you are there you want him out, I just need to see a little more of him as an overall competitor. He needs to pick an alliance, this free agent stuff isn’t gonna work for new guys
Joss definitely has endurance. Joss vs Derrick should've never been as many rounds as it was. Joss has 50 lbs of solid muscle on Derrick. I don't see Darrell, CT or Landon losing to Derrick in that elimination.
Joss definitely has endurance. Joss vs Derrick should've never been as many rounds as it was. Joss has 50 lbs of solid muscle on Derrick. I don't see Darrell, CT or Landon losing to Derrick in that elimination.
CT knows about strategy (ex: him vs Darrell on Invasion) so he would've found a way to outsmart Derrick. Either way this season will definitely be super competitive on the guys side with CT, Landon, and John very likely with Derrick, Darrell, Abram, and Joss potentially there
Joss definitely has endurance. Joss vs Derrick should've never been as many rounds as it was. Joss has 50 lbs of solid muscle on Derrick. I don't see Darrell, CT or Landon losing to Derrick in that elimination.
also a another point about him maybe being dumb, it was obvious that Derrick wanted to tire him out and he just kept pulling instead of getting him to the ground and finding a position. Darrell put on a clinic against Zach on Invasion
She is not another Jemmye. She still can hold her own. she beat Aneesa is that crazy large elimination thing, she won a challenge for her team last year, she even put up a great fight before her finger broke and no one scored any points yet when she was eliminated this season. She def isn't in her top physical shape like she used to be...but she is far from someone like Jemmye who is just plain bad at competitions and elminations.
PREACH KMV <3
If they can get Darell, Landon, CT, Bananas, Abraham, Derrick K and Brad all on the same cast this will be a dominant male cast just like back in the day and add Wes to this
i think having both guys adds to the competition on the guys side. I don't think it'll be a cake walk for anyone.
I was hoping for one of the lovely ladies like Coral, Beth, Rachel, Katie, etc...but this is exciting! I've always liked Landon and I like that these guys will have legit competition coming back! <3
Landon YAASSSS
Landon and Brad would be in an alliance IMO, they worked together up until the end of the Duel II with Mark and Evan. I could see Landon paying back Brad before a final though for revenge. Bananas is going to have a lot of work to do.
Speaking to the previous pages, CT is most well-rounded challenger that could easily make it to a final, no matter his shape. CT has the best combination of strength, agility, smarts & the ability to house food. Everyone is also still scared to send him into an elimination. In a way being allies/cordial with Bananas benefits his game. The young bucks group the vets together, but will always have Bananas as #1 on their list. There is no way your going to get rid of all of the vets before a final.
His only disadvantage at this this point/age would be endurance because of his shape, thus winning a final. Now I know he should be in better shape with all of his recent posts, but he's still not beating the following in a final as long as they remain endurance based for the majority:
Jordan/Darrell/Landon and probably Joss after his impressive season.CT/Bananas/Derrick/Brad/Zach would be the next Tier there.
Which I like. Now we just need the girls cast to be like that.
I'm totally here for a Brad and Landon alliance
Bananas may be out really early this season
ageist much? Get over yourself and grow up.
Honestly here for the Landon and Joss GOAT nice-guy alliance going 1 and 2.
Of all the vets he will be the first one people will come after. Who's going to have his back besides MAYBE CT and Cara? Brad, Landon and Abe (if he's there) don't **** with him. Darrell will go to whatever side looks best for him and the newers guys all want him out. #TheCurse
Landon is definitely the most well-rounded Challenger competitor. The only thing CT could beat Landon in back in the day was a physical elim, and even then I wouldn't expect it to be easy. Not really sure how CT would stack up against a lot of these guys nowadays due to his endurance. And I don't think CT would beat any of those guys running a final (maybe Zach)... I still don't think he beat Nelson on Invasion if we're being honest.
Girls side is WEAK so far.
Giving Joss a lot in this thread, we saw him run up a mountain and do good in elimination.
Outside of him being hot he hasn’t defenitely proven anything, he could be dumb
Sorry if I didn't clarify, I meant CT is the most well-rounded to have an easy road to a final, not win one. If he makes it to a final, he is going to have a really tough time with those other elites.
When it comes to Darrell, Jordan, Bananas, etc, they have an extremely great shot to win, but there are few holes in their game that could be exposed and get them eliminated before a final.
I would say CT/Landon are interchangeable for having the easiest road to a final.
She clearly doesn’t plan on staying long the ! Can’t wait fior Legend Jenna to beat her in a puzzle with one working leg and brain cell!
I think Abe is insane and he doesn't do much for me...but I'd love to see him with Queen V, Shane, Darrell, Brad, and Landon...that would be a fun dynamic. And then if they wouldn't be stupid and pay Coral what she deserves and Rachel then would see the old school crowd back and get her it'd be heaven. <3
I see him like a Darrell type competitor. Amazing endurance and strength. We haven't seen him do puzzles but he looked like he didn't even sweat going up the mountain and he put up an incredible fight with Derrick. Those are characteristics that can bring you to a final if you play carefully so he's definitely worth the hype
I think he said he was probably dumb when he compared himself to Devin, as with a lot of other cast members who can't really do puzzles. IDK, running up a mountain/mini-final like he did and showing out vs. Derrick shoots up the ranks immediately, especially when other castmembers (aka Johnny) give you a ton of credit.
oh I thinks he’s intimidating in the sense that if you are there you want him out, I just need to see a little more of him as an overall competitor. He needs to pick an alliance, this free agent stuff isn’t gonna work for new guys
Nobody wanted to go against Joss. The guy is by far in the best shape, and not just physically. That in itself shoots him to the top of the ranks.
As for puzzles, it's a toss up. He is well-spoken enough and not a complete moron, so he may do well.
Joss definitely has endurance. Joss vs Derrick should've never been as many rounds as it was. Joss has 50 lbs of solid muscle on Derrick. I don't see Darrell, CT or Landon losing to Derrick in that elimination.
CT knows about strategy (ex: him vs Darrell on Invasion) so he would've found a way to outsmart Derrick. Either way this season will definitely be super competitive on the guys side with CT, Landon, and John very likely with Derrick, Darrell, Abram, and Joss potentially there
also a another point about him maybe being dumb, it was obvious that Derrick wanted to tire him out and he just kept pulling instead of getting him to the ground and finding a position. Darrell put on a clinic against Zach on Invasion
Hoping jemmye and her commentary are going to be on season 32
YESSSSSS
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