The Challenge: Dirty 30 (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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I don't understand why anyone considers Sexes a team challenge other than the fact they were split between men and women.  There were no eliminations.  Sexes was all politics and almost no one made a final.  The argument is that "supposedly" team challenges were easier to reach the end.  Sexes was not by any definition.  The Gaunlet, The Inferno, The Ruins & Cutthroat were true "team challenges"

Almost noone reached the final on Ruins' Challengers team or on Cutthroat's blue team. Ruins was also mostly politics. Sexes was still teams, they didn't compete individually. Being split into teams is literally the definition of a team challenge.

I don't understand why anyone considers Sexes a team challenge other than the fact they were split between men and women.  There were no eliminations.  Sexes was all politics and almost no one made a final.  The argument is that "supposedly" team challenges were easier to reach the end.  Sexes was not by any definition.  The Gaunlet, The Inferno, The Ruins & Cutthroat were true "team challenges"

I always considered it indivudal since they have to play individually within their teams. The oppositte sexes have no say in how well they do.

Almost noone reached the final on Ruins' Challengers team or on Cutthroat's blue team. Ruins was also mostly politics. Sexes was still teams, they didn't compete individually. Being split into teams is literally the definition of a team challenge.

The Ruins would have had more if there weren't the DQs.  Sexes was absolutely individual.  Just like the Duel wasn't a pair challenge despite the fact they almost always competed in pairs.  Cutthroat had 5 guys and 6 girls--almost twice that as Sexes despite a smaller cast.

Even with 4 DQs The Ruins still had 4 guys and 3 girls in the final...7 >6

People need to realize the day of 6-8 guys and 6-8 girls making the finals are over. Its no longer half the cast goes home. Its 80-90% goes home and it makes the show better, more entertaining, competitive and less predictable.

People need to realize the day of 6-8 guys and 6-8 girls making the finals are over. Its no longer half the cast goes home. Its 80-90% goes home and it makes the show better, more entertaining, competitive and less predictable.

Does it make it better?  Pretty sure the golden era still reigns supreme.  Pretty sure it is more predictable now.  Look at past winners compared to who wins now

Well this season isn't a team challenge so it doesn't need to be discussed in this thread. 

People need to realize the day of 6-8 guys and 6-8 girls making the finals are over. Its no longer half the cast goes home. Its 80-90% goes home and it makes the show better, more entertaining, competitive and less predictable.

less predictable? the same people make it to the end everytime, wym??

Well this season isn't a team challenge so it doesn't need to be discussed in this thread. 

It's a discussion regarding Aneesa who is on this season

Ceej3 wrote:

Well this season isn't a team challenge so it doesn't need to be discussed in this thread. 

It's a discussion regarding Aneesa who is on this season

Bs y'all didn't even mention Aneesa in the last few posts 

kvm1977 wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:Well this season isn't a team challenge so it doesn't need to be discussed in this thread. 

It's a discussion regarding Aneesa who is on this season

Bs y'all didn't even mention Aneesa in the last few posts 

Learn how to follow posts--it's called a discusion...

Sexes was a team challenge where you deliberate and vote off a teammate and split the grand prize at the end as a team. How is this a debate? Lol

Sexes was a team challenge where you deliberate and vote off a teammate and split the grand prize at the end as a team. How is this a debate? Lol

Sexes was a team challenge where you deliberate and vote off a teammate and split the grand prize at the end as a team. How is this a debate? Lol

1.  It was a vote off--no eliminations

2.  It was not a team challenge--no one played for "the team" it was 100% individual.

3.  It was not easier to reach a final.  Same as an individual final.  The fact that anyone thinks it is in the same category as The Ruins, The Gauntlet, The Infero or Cutthroat indicates that there's a lot of people here that have zero common sense

 

Cara & Camila appearance checks and final checks. My girls are winning!

Ceej3 wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

Ceej3 wrote:Well this season isn't a team challenge so it doesn't need to be discussed in this thread. 

It's a discussion regarding Aneesa who is on this season

Bs y'all didn't even mention Aneesa in the last few posts 

Learn how to follow posts--it's called a discusion...

I do know how to follow posts hence why I knew it went from whether Aneesa competed on 2 or 4 team challenges to what is a team challenge. Don't ever tell me what to learn 

Especially Camila since she's MTV favourite girl and always the center of talk #queen

Especially Camila since she's MTV favourite girl and always the center of talk #queen

hi halim. How is life?

Sexes was a team challenge where you deliberate and vote off a teammate and split the grand prize at the end as a team. How is this a debate? Lol

 

Ugh.. If only Kailah could've made this final instead of Camila this season would've been saved. I have a feeling Kailah put in work and went into every elimination and probably finally got taken down by Tori. Meanwhile Camila sat on her pretentious "champ" ***. Hopefully Derrick/Jordan and Tori/CM pull off the win

Ugh.. If only Kailah could've made this final instead of Camila this season would've been saved. I have a feeling Kailah put in work and went into every elimination and probably finally got taken down by Tori. Meanwhile Camila sat on her pretentious "champ" ***. Hopefully Derrick/Jordan and Tori/CM pull off the win

Kailah really should've been in this final. 

wutzrenzi wrote:

Sexes was a team challenge where you deliberate and vote off a teammate and split the grand prize at the end as a team. How is this a debate? Lol

 

deeper wrote:

Ugh.. If only Kailah could've made this final instead of Camila this season would've been saved. I have a feeling Kailah put in work and went into every elimination and probably finally got taken down by Tori. Meanwhile Camila sat on her pretentious "champ" ***. Hopefully Derrick/Jordan and Tori/CM pull off the win

Kailah really should've been in this final. 

No.

Ceej3 wrote:

deeper wrote:Ugh.. If only Kailah could've made this final instead of Camila this season would've been saved. I have a feeling Kailah put in work and went into every elimination and probably finally got taken down by Tori. Meanwhile Camila sat on her pretentious "champ" ***. Hopefully Derrick/Jordan and Tori/CM pull off the win

Kailah really should've been in this final. 

No.

Yes.

Ceej3 wrote:

deeper wrote:Ugh.. If only Kailah could've made this final instead of Camila this season would've been saved. I have a feeling Kailah put in work and went into every elimination and probably finally got taken down by Tori. Meanwhile Camila sat on her pretentious "champ" ***. Hopefully Derrick/Jordan and Tori/CM pull off the win

Kailah really should've been in this final. 

No.

Kailah >>>>> Camila 

trust me I'm no fan of Kailah but she's more tolerable than Ratatouille 

Even though I hate Amanda went home early I'm glad some other AYTO girls got to shine this season. 

wutzrenzi wrote:

Sexes was a team challenge where you deliberate and vote off a teammate and split the grand prize at the end as a team. How is this a debate? Lol

1.  It was a vote off--no eliminations2.  It was not a team challenge--no one played for "the team" it was 100% individual.3.  It was not easier to reach a final.  Same as an individual final.  The fact that anyone thinks it is in the same category as The Ruins, The Gauntlet, The Infero or Cutthroat indicates that there's a lot of people here that have zero common sense 

If MTV themselves categorize it as a team challenge and never catergorized it as the shows first individual game then its a team challenge. I'm not interested in spinning and changing everything about this show for my own case or agenda. 

So whatever you say man, Battle of the Sexes and Battle of the Sexes 2 were individual challenges.

Speaking of Bloodlines, it pissed me the **** off that while Cara got backlash for cheating (which she was at fault for), Cory--who cheated on his girlfriend with Aneesa--got off scot-free, even though he thought he would get away with it, meaning he probably wasn't gonna tell his girlfriend. While Cara was reprimanded at the reunion, people just laughed that Cory thought he would get away with it. What Cara did was awful, but let's not forget Tony, Cory, and Thomas all cheated on their girlfriends that season. Those are some double standards tbh.

I think the fact that Cara got so much backlash over Tom and Cory is because Abe was a castmember, their love story was on tv..etc. No one knew Tom or Cory's gfs.. Doesn't make it right but it is just the way fans react because they know Cara and Abe as this tv couple.

Camila & Cara are great competitors. Probably won a lot missions. If no one challenged them that's on those idiots! 

deeper wrote:

Ugh.. If only Kailah could've made this final instead of Camila this season would've been saved. I have a feeling Kailah put in work and went into every elimination and probably finally got taken down by Tori. Meanwhile Camila sat on her pretentious "champ" ***. Hopefully Derrick/Jordan and Tori/CM pull off the win

Kailah really should've been in this final. 

Nope. She lost therefore she's not in the final.

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