The Challenge: Season 30 (Pre-departure Speculation)

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There's one woman I would literally do anything to see. Like I wouldn't even say a word if they filled the rest of the cast with AYTO and Stranded.

Tiffany "New York" Pollard

LurkerNoMore wrote:

There's one woman I would literally do anything to see. Like I wouldn't even say a word if they filled the rest of the cast with AYTO and Stranded.

Tiffany "New York" Pollard

HELL NO!

Dre from s1 probably will never be on the challenge. I think it's time to let his name go in any type of conversation.

we weren't alking about Dre from S1. we were takling about Andre from season 5. 

God... There's one name I want to throw out so bad, just because they've suspiciously had activity with several cast members lately. I highly doubt this individual is in contention for the cast, but I would die if they were and then got dropped.

LurkerNoMore wrote:

There's one woman I would literally do anything to see. Like I wouldn't even say a word if they filled the rest of the cast with AYTO and Stranded.

Tiffany "New York" Pollard

That's mommy right there. 

Yeah...if you ask me no 1 person is worth filling the cast with Non-Castmembers in my book. I got too many people I would love to see back on this show for that.

thechallenger101 wrote:

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jergatlin5 wrote:
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jergatlin5 wrote:
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jergatlin5 wrote:
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jergatlin5 wrote:Debut's gonna hate this, but seasons 4/5 of AYTO have better challenge potential than the last 3 seasons (yes, including Skeletons which was a good *** season) of the RW.

No they don't.And if/when they debut they're going to prove me right just like most of the others.

If seasons 4/5 have 2 guys that go up against the whole crowd of course they aren't going to win. But let's go through the male side of underdogs for Invasion non RW contestants are doing far better than RW'ers.

Only Shane and Hunter...And Shane is fine because he's a Road Ruler. 

3 of the first 4 people gone were RW'ers from that exact group I stated lol. The last 5 guys 4 of them are non RW (cool there's Shane but still). 

Okay. So what they all suck and AYTO is so much better for The Challenge? RW and Road Rules still belongs on this show more than AYTO ever will. Regardless if they can compete or not or if you like them or not. And when Season 4/5 flops and don't prove to be any better than the last 3 RW seasons I'll be LOL'ing and be proven right once again.

Facts don't care about your feelings. Fact is MTV & BMP decided to transition this show out of RR's vs RW. AYTO jumped into the mix, but you can get emotional with your toy hot wheels and whine about their addition. I didn't say the newest 3 seasons of RW suck I said they were flops and I believe AYTO's last 2 seasons would bring more. Who knows only time will tell. But no one is trying to prove you wrong or right, I simply stated a fact when I pointed out non RW cast members are doing better on the men's underdog side. You're always trying to prove yourself right, no one came for you Hot Williams.

...So you did say they suck. And for the record I don't need to prove myself right...Look at all the AYTO that have been on the show. Who do you really see winning at any point? Who do you see really going against Backpack and coming out on the winning side? That's right NOOONE. And you try to use that fact that Shane and Hunter are doing well to try to imply that they'll do better. Sorry. They'll flop, they have no potential. All they'll do is hook up and that's it.   

That's pretty much what all the new Real World and AYTO people do. It really doesn't matter because many of these new kids will flop regardless of what show they came from or they'll just show up for hook ups like Cory and Tony on his first two seasons. Also if I have to be completely honest I see more AYTO people plotting against Bananas more than these Real World, 90% of the new Real World are minions to Bananas. I wouldn't be surprised if they air footage of them doing his laundry next season.  

That may be true but who from AYTO is gonna have the legit ability to actually take him out of the game? Plotting against him don't mean shit if they can't get rid of him. Rivals 3 is clear proof of that.

It all depends, based on the cast they have a huge group of RW people that sit on Bananas' lap daily and I can see it almost being impossible to take him out of the game since he's playing with all his allies. The more AYTO or rookies the more people that will plot/play against him to a point (depending on the theme) where if an AYTO person or team wins a challenge they can throw him in, possible one of his allies could get last place and they go into elimination. In the show we see that Bananas is beatable and actually easier to take out than people think (See: Exes 2). On Bloodlines he would have probably been eliminated earlier had he not use the Cara-Tom situation to his advantage. I'm not saying all of them will plot against him or could take him out but Bananas hasn't been tested on this show since 2013 on Free Agents, he's use to free rides and people sitting on his lap. Plus if Wes plays his cards right and the rookies are there to win unlike Cory & Tony then things can really work. However based on this cast so far, I don't see it happening. I know Rivals 3 is also a good example with lots of AYTO/rookies and they all flopped or sucked off Bananas (Ex: Dario) but that's clearly because they didn't cast strong people that would play the game or do decent in challenges. Had we seen people like Gio, Eddie, John (AYTO4), Connor, Jaylen, Asaf, Kam, Tyranny, Tori, Morgan, etc. on the show, it'll be a different story but it's hard to take AYTO serious on the show when they stay casting people like Nate, JJ, Simone, Brittany,etc. and it's sad when our only decent AYTO competitors are Nelson, Hunter and sometimes Devin. 

Debut Album wrote:

thechallenger101 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:
jergatlin5 wrote:
Debut Album wrote:
jergatlin5 wrote:
Debut Album wrote:
jergatlin5 wrote:
Debut Album wrote:
jergatlin5 wrote:Debut's gonna hate this, but seasons 4/5 of AYTO have better challenge potential than the last 3 seasons (yes, including Skeletons which was a good *** season) of the RW.

No they don't.And if/when they debut they're going to prove me right just like most of the others.

If seasons 4/5 have 2 guys that go up against the whole crowd of course they aren't going to win. But let's go through the male side of underdogs for Invasion non RW contestants are doing far better than RW'ers.

Only Shane and Hunter...And Shane is fine because he's a Road Ruler. 

3 of the first 4 people gone were RW'ers from that exact group I stated lol. The last 5 guys 4 of them are non RW (cool there's Shane but still). 

Okay. So what they all suck and AYTO is so much better for The Challenge? RW and Road Rules still belongs on this show more than AYTO ever will. Regardless if they can compete or not or if you like them or not. And when Season 4/5 flops and don't prove to be any better than the last 3 RW seasons I'll be LOL'ing and be proven right once again.

Facts don't care about your feelings. Fact is MTV & BMP decided to transition this show out of RR's vs RW. AYTO jumped into the mix, but you can get emotional with your toy hot wheels and whine about their addition. I didn't say the newest 3 seasons of RW suck I said they were flops and I believe AYTO's last 2 seasons would bring more. Who knows only time will tell. But no one is trying to prove you wrong or right, I simply stated a fact when I pointed out non RW cast members are doing better on the men's underdog side. You're always trying to prove yourself right, no one came for you Hot Williams.

...So you did say they suck. And for the record I don't need to prove myself right...Look at all the AYTO that have been on the show. Who do you really see winning at any point? Who do you see really going against Backpack and coming out on the winning side? That's right NOOONE. And you try to use that fact that Shane and Hunter are doing well to try to imply that they'll do better. Sorry. They'll flop, they have no potential. All they'll do is hook up and that's it.   

That's pretty much what all the new Real World and AYTO people do. It really doesn't matter because many of these new kids will flop regardless of what show they came from or they'll just show up for hook ups like Cory and Tony on his first two seasons. Also if I have to be completely honest I see more AYTO people plotting against Bananas more than these Real World, 90% of the new Real World are minions to Bananas. I wouldn't be surprised if they air footage of them doing his laundry next season.  

That may be true but who from AYTO is gonna have the legit ability to actually take him out of the game? Plotting against him don't mean shit if they can't get rid of him. Rivals 3 is clear proof of that.

It all depends, based on the cast they have a huge group of RW people that sit on Bananas' lap daily and I can see it almost being impossible to take him out of the game since he's playing with all his allies. The more AYTO or rookies the more people that will plot/play against him to a point (depending on the theme) where if an AYTO person or team wins a challenge they can throw him in, possible one of his allies could get last place and they go into elimination. In the show we see that Bananas is beatable and actually easier to take out than people think (See: Exes 2). On Bloodlines he would have probably been eliminated earlier had he not use the Cara-Tom situation to his advantage. I'm not saying all of them will plot against him or could take him out but Bananas hasn't been tested on this show since 2013 on Free Agents, he's use to free rides and people sitting on his lap. Plus if Wes plays his cards right and the rookies are there to win unlike Cory & Tony then things can really work. However based on this cast so far, I don't see it happening. I know Rivals 3 is also a good example with lots of AYTO/rookies and they all flopped or sucked off Bananas (Ex: Dario) but that's clearly because they didn't cast strong people that would play the game or do decent in challenges. Had we seen people like Gio, Eddie, John (AYTO4), Connor, Jaylen, Asaf, Kam, Tyranny, Tori, Morgan, etc. on the show, it'll be a different story but it's hard to take AYTO serious on the show when they stay casting people like Nate, JJ, Simone, Brittany,etc. and it's sad when our only decent AYTO competitors are Nelson, Hunter and sometimes Devin. 

Well apparently Anthony was supposed to be this smart dude and we saw how that turned out. Makes me think that even if they do cast AYTO worth a shit they'd still flop. But at the same time I'd welcome and accept them more if they were peopple who played the game and compete and on top of that be interesting. I don't see any of that in them and that's why I reject them so much. Alot of them are just plain useless IMO.

 

 

jergatlin5 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:

jergatlin5 wrote:
Debut Album wrote:
jergatlin5 wrote:
Debut Album wrote:
jergatlin5 wrote:Debut's gonna hate this, but seasons 4/5 of AYTO have better challenge potential than the last 3 seasons (yes, including Skeletons which was a good *** season) of the RW.

No they don't.And if/when they debut they're going to prove me right just like most of the others.

If seasons 4/5 have 2 guys that go up against the whole crowd of course they aren't going to win. But let's go through the male side of underdogs for Invasion non RW contestants are doing far better than RW'ers.

Only Shane and Hunter...And Shane is fine because he's a Road Ruler. 

3 of the first 4 people gone were RW'ers from that exact group I stated lol. The last 5 guys 4 of them are non RW (cool there's Shane but still). 

Okay. So what they all suck and AYTO is so much better for The Challenge? RW and Road Rules still belongs on this show more than AYTO ever will. Regardless if they can compete or not or if you like them or not. And when Season 4/5 flops and don't prove to be any better than the last 3 RW seasons I'll be LOL'ing and be proven right once again.

Facts don't care about your feelings. Fact is MTV & BMP decided to transition this show out of RR's vs RW. AYTO jumped into the mix, but you can get emotional with your toy hot wheels and whine about their addition. I didn't say the newest 3 seasons of RW suck I said they were flops and I believe AYTO's last 2 seasons would bring more. Who knows only time will tell. But no one is trying to prove you wrong or right, I simply stated a fact when I pointed out non RW cast members are doing better on the men's underdog side. You're always trying to prove yourself right, no one came for you Hot Williams.

...So you're saying they suck. And for the record I don't need to prove myself right...Look at all the AYTO that have been on the show. Who do you really see winning at any point? Who do you see really going against Backpack and coming out on the winning side? That's right NOOONE. And you try to use that fact that Shane and Hunter are doing well to try to imply that they'll do better that RW by stating they have "Potential". Sorry. They'll flop, they have no potential. All they'll do is hook up and that's it. And you can chill with the attacks because that's ******* pointless as hell. Learn to have a civil ******* conversation for once in your life instead of going to petty little insults that you think is going to hurt me.  I didn't come for you so don't come for me. Got it? Good. And the fact of the matter is this is still The Real World/Road Rules challenge. AYTO don't fit into that and they never will.   

You and I both know how this season ends so let me not. But even if we didn't your RW boys still aren't looking hot. I'm not saying Skeletons/<GBOGH>/BB suck at all. I said they're currently flops, Bananas was a flop his first season and look at him now. I then said they don't show as much promise as AYTO 4/5. Again that was a hypothesis and I backed it up with FACT, on this season of Invasion 3 of the first 4 people eliminated were from the crop you're currently defending. Like I said who knows what will happen with those seasons. No one from the new crop of RW or AYTO have taken Johnny out, at least AYTO has actually gone after him. Secondly, You play with Hot Wheels another FACT, all I said was instead of getting emotional and saying "I'll be right again lol" you could just watch the show and play with your hot wheels. No one was coming for you. I was very innocuous when I spoke to you with absolutely no malice or disdain. Lastly, you were demonstrably FALSE, when you stated "And the fact of the matter is this is still The Real World/Road Rules challenge. AYTO don't fit into that and they never will." The show is effectively called The Challenge clearly the creators of the show changed the name and the theme of the show so it's not just RW&RR's anymore. So you were spouting Very Fake News. Sad! 

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Yalls may disagree but for me

Derrick (AYTO5) >>>> The past 2 Real World seasons male cast

Debut Album wrote:

jergatlin5 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:
jergatlin5 wrote:
Debut Album wrote:
jergatlin5 wrote:
Debut Album wrote:
jergatlin5 wrote:Debut's gonna hate this, but seasons 4/5 of AYTO have better challenge potential than the last 3 seasons (yes, including Skeletons which was a good *** season) of the RW.

No they don't.And if/when they debut they're going to prove me right just like most of the others.

If seasons 4/5 have 2 guys that go up against the whole crowd of course they aren't going to win. But let's go through the male side of underdogs for Invasion non RW contestants are doing far better than RW'ers.

Only Shane and Hunter...And Shane is fine because he's a Road Ruler. 

3 of the first 4 people gone were RW'ers from that exact group I stated lol. The last 5 guys 4 of them are non RW (cool there's Shane but still). 

Okay. So what they all suck and AYTO is so much better for The Challenge? RW and Road Rules still belongs on this show more than AYTO ever will. Regardless if they can compete or not or if you like them or not. And when Season 4/5 flops and don't prove to be any better than the last 3 RW seasons I'll be LOL'ing and be proven right once again.

Facts don't care about your feelings. Fact is MTV & BMP decided to transition this show out of RR's vs RW. AYTO jumped into the mix, but you can get emotional with your toy hot wheels and whine about their addition. I didn't say the newest 3 seasons of RW suck I said they were flops and I believe AYTO's last 2 seasons would bring more. Who knows only time will tell. But no one is trying to prove you wrong or right, I simply stated a fact when I pointed out non RW cast members are doing better on the men's underdog side. You're always trying to prove yourself right, no one came for you Hot Williams.

...So you're saying they suck. And for the record I don't need to prove myself right...Look at all the AYTO that have been on the show. Who do you really see winning at any point? Who do you see really going against Backpack and coming out on the winning side? That's right NOOONE. And you try to use that fact that Shane and Hunter are doing well to try to imply that they'll do better that RW by stating they have "Potential". Sorry. They'll flop, they have no potential. All they'll do is hook up and that's it. And you can chill with the attacks because that's ******* pointless as hell. Learn to have a civil ******* conversation for once in your life instead of going to petty little insults that you think is going to hurt me.  I didn't come for you so don't come for me. Got it? Good. And the fact of the matter is this is still The Real World/Road Rules challenge. AYTO don't fit into that and they never will.   

You and I both know how this season ends so let me not. But even if we didn't your RW boys still aren't looking hot. I'm not saying Skeletons/<GBOGH>/BB suck at all. I said they're currently flops, Bananas was a flop his first season and look at him now. I then said they don't show as much promise as AYTO 4/5. Again that was a hypothesis and I backed it up with FACT, on this season of Invasion 3 of the first 4 people eliminated were from the crop you're currently defending. Like I said who knows what will happen with those seasons. No one from the new crop of RW or AYTO have taken Johnny out, at least AYTO has actually gone after him. Secondly, You play with Hot Wheels another FACT, all I said was instead of getting emotional and saying "I'll be right again lol" you could just watch the show and play with your hot wheels. No one was coming for you. I was very innocuous when I spoke to you with absolutely no malice or disdain. Lastly, you were demonstrably FALSE, when you stated "And the fact of the matter is this is still The Real World/Road Rules challenge. AYTO don't fit into that and they never will." The show is effectively called The Challenge clearly the creators of the show changed the name and the theme of the show so it's not just RW&RR's anymore. So you were spouting Very Fake News. Sad! 

You saying they suck and they're flops ARE THE SAME DAMN THING! So yeah. You're saying they suck. Period

So Right..Like I said. You used the fact that Shane and Hunter are doing well to justify you thinking that Season 4/5 will do better than RW. If you want to do that then that's fine but I think it's crap. And for the record going against Backpack is great and all but not a single one of them has the tools to really challenge him so in the end it doesn't mean anything so AYTO ain't looking good either and even if Backpack weren't around they still wouldn't amount to anything. So I don't know what makes you think they can do anything for this show.

And what the hell does Hot Wheels have to do with anything that's being disscussed here? You're clearly using that against me to attack me because I disagree with you so you are coming at me with Emotion, malice, and disdain. Otherwise that would've never came up. YOU'RE the one that's being emotional and on top of that you're being petty so cut the crap okay? 

Furthermore it doesn't matter what the show is called. It's still the same show. If  The Walking Dead was called The Dead does the show change? If Game of Thrones was Throne does it change or is it the same show?

Yalls may disagree but for meDerrick (AYTO5) >>>> The past 2 Real World seasons male cast

Yeah..from what I saw of him on Second Chances he seems useless so I surely disagree with you.

But I have a feeling we just going around in circles with Jerg so let's just agree to disagree and try not to attack people.

Anyways...

I wonder where this challenge will be filmed. Hopefully it's somewhere new.

Unlikely this happens but I hope Dan Walsh could come back. 

God... There's one name I want to throw out so bad, just because they've suspiciously had activity with several cast members lately. I highly doubt this individual is in contention for the cast, but I would die if they were and then got dropped.

You guys really need to drop the ego ya'll aint getting nobody dropped. MTV isn't going to make changes to their cast bc 1% of superfans knows the cast. Get over yourselves.

God... There's one name I want to throw out so bad, just because they've suspiciously had activity with several cast members lately. I highly doubt this individual is in contention for the cast, but I would die if they were and then got dropped.

You guys really need to drop the ego ya'll aint getting nobody dropped. MTV isn't going to make changes to their cast bc 1% of superfans knows the cast. Get over yourselves.

LurkerNoMore wrote:

God... There's one name I want to throw out so bad, just because they've suspiciously had activity with several cast members lately. I highly doubt this individual is in contention for the cast, but I would die if they were and then got dropped.

You guys really need to drop the ego ya'll aint getting nobody dropped. MTV isn't going to make changes to their cast bc 1% of superfans knows the cast. Get over yourselves.

Weren't you the same lil boy who posted a picture of a castmember in hopes that they get dropped?? Lmao....the **** outta here with all that. You steady lurking this thread but continue missing the point that multiple people were dropped last season after they were added to the cast. You mad on a Monday orrrrr?

There are quite a few spots left so maybe my kings and queens will swoop in and save the day. 

There are quite a few spots left so maybe my kings and queens will swoop in and save the day. 

God... There's one name I want to throw out so bad, just because they've suspiciously had activity with several cast members lately. I highly doubt this individual is in contention for the cast, but I would die if they were and then got dropped.

Melinda Austin ? Or Kam or Asaf as AYTO rookies 

I don't want to add fuel to the fire, but Debut is actually right about AYTO5 though. I can't see ANY of them being good at anything on The Challenge. Despite I like Ozzy, Jaylen, Andre and Derrick, they will all be wallpaper entertainment wise and flops competition wise. They will only be good for hookups and that's it. Same for the girls.The only one I can see being interesting from AYTO5 is Tyler (despite my hatred for this dude).AYTO4 however could bring it something great to the show, like Asaf and Tori for instance (for their personalities) or Gio (for the epic tantrums he could make).Other than that, I hope Morocco will be their destination for Challenge 30. 

Where is this Derrick speculation coming from?

I was totally against AYTO being on the challenges at first but I will admit there are some cast members that would be nightmares (in a good way) on the challenge and would bring some good eye candy since the real world has been seriously lacking. Totally agree that Gio, Asaf, Tori would be great as would Stephen, John, Francesca. From season 5 honestly I could see almost the whole cast of girls bringing it minus Shannon and Kari and for the boys Ozzy, Tyler, Mike H., Mike C., Hayden.

I was totally against AYTO being on the challenges at first but I will admit there are some cast members that would be nightmares (in a good way) on the challenge and would bring some good eye candy since the real world has been seriously lacking. Totally agree that Gio, Asaf, Tori would be great as would Stephen, John, Francesca. From season 5 honestly I could see almost the whole cast of girls bringing it minus Shannon and Kari and for the boys Ozzy, Tyler, Mike H., Mike C., Hayden.

I'd rather see guys from AYTO4 and 5 than guys from the last 2 Real World seasons. Mike, Peter, Will, Dione, and Dylan are tragic 

this list reminds me of the crap i took this morning

Hey everyone let me direct you to the appropriate thread to talk about your opinions about AYTO on the challenge so you can **** in the SPECULATION thread.

http://www.vevmo.com/comment/1813795

Kajun wrote:

LurkerNoMore wrote:God... There's one name I want to throw out so bad, just because they've suspiciously had activity with several cast members lately. I highly doubt this individual is in contention for the cast, but I would die if they were and then got dropped.

You guys really need to drop the ego ya'll aint getting nobody dropped. MTV isn't going to make changes to their cast bc 1% of superfans knows the cast. Get over yourselves.

Weren't you the same lil boy who posted a picture of a castmember in hopes that they get dropped?? Lmao....the **** outta here with all that. You steady lurking this thread but continue missing the point that multiple people were dropped last season after they were added to the cast. You mad on a Monday orrrrr?

I have posted new pics of that person. Nice try. Once again as much as you want to pretend you are relevant enough to have people dropped because you stalk the cast for spoilers, they were not.

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