Still don't understand why they always edit out things in regard to Marie. I.e. her political saavy during Vendettas. Her spraining her ankle directly affects her performance during a final and it's kind of important to know that she was injured. You know if it was CT or Cara or practically anyone else, it'd be in there.
Still don't understand why they always edit out things in regard to Marie. I.e. her political saavy during Vendettas. Her spraining her ankle directly affects her performance during a final and it's kind of important to know that she was injured. You know if it was CT or Cara or practically anyone else, it'd be in there.
id assume they didn’t record it. She said she went to a port o potty and during bananas and nats elim and it happened when she was coming back. I think.
Still don't understand why they always edit out things in regard to Marie. I.e. her political saavy during Vendettas. Her spraining her ankle directly affects her performance during a final and it's kind of important to know that she was injured. You know if it was CT or Cara or practically anyone else, it'd be in there.
id assume they didn’t record it. She said she went to a port o potty and during bananas and nats elim and it happened when she was coming back. I think.
I bet she got pushed like Helen did on BB15. I smell sabotoge.
Still don't understand why they always edit out things in regard to Marie. I.e. her political saavy during Vendettas. Her spraining her ankle directly affects her performance during a final and it's kind of important to know that she was injured. You know if it was CT or Cara or practically anyone else, it'd be in there.
To be fair, does anyone think that Marie has an objective chance of winning the final even if she was the only one without a sprained ankle?
Still don't understand why they always edit out things in regard to Marie. I.e. her political saavy during Vendettas. Her spraining her ankle directly affects her performance during a final and it's kind of important to know that she was injured. You know if it was CT or Cara or practically anyone else, it'd be in there.
Didn't someone say that one of the producers or editors or whatever didn't like her? That's probably why.
Still don't understand why they always edit out things in regard to Marie. I.e. her political saavy during Vendettas. Her spraining her ankle directly affects her performance during a final and it's kind of important to know that she was injured. You know if it was CT or Cara or practically anyone else, it'd be in there.
is this a Marie issue or a female issue? Which women do they really show being politically savvy? They gave Kam credit this season, because there was pretty much no other way they could tell that story, but for the most part they avoid showing girls' political moves.
Still don't understand why they always edit out things in regard to Marie. I.e. her political saavy during Vendettas. Her spraining her ankle directly affects her performance during a final and it's kind of important to know that she was injured. You know if it was CT or Cara or practically anyone else, it'd be in there.
To be fair, does anyone think that Marie has an objective chance of winning the final even if she was the only one without a sprained ankle?
Still don't understand why they always edit out things in regard to Marie. I.e. her political saavy during Vendettas. Her spraining her ankle directly affects her performance during a final and it's kind of important to know that she was injured. You know if it was CT or Cara or practically anyone else, it'd be in there.
To be fair, does anyone think that Marie has an objective chance of winning the final even if she was the only one without a sprained ankle?
Yes because even if she loses the final, her winning at life cancels out the loss which means she's still a challenge champion.
To be fair, does anyone think that Marie has an objective chance of winning the final even if she was the only one without a sprained ankle?
Yes?
Sorry, I meant does anyone intelligent think that Marie has an objective chance of winning the final even if she was the only one without a sprained ankle. My bad.
Still don't understand why they always edit out things in regard to Marie. I.e. her political saavy during Vendettas. Her spraining her ankle directly affects her performance during a final and it's kind of important to know that she was injured. You know if it was CT or Cara or practically anyone else, it'd be in there.
is this a Marie issue or a female issue? Which women do they really show being politically savvy? They gave Kam credit this season, because there was pretty much no other way they could tell that story, but for the most part they avoid showing girls' political moves.
It's not a sexist issue. Emily Bailey, Coral & Veronica were shown being the political masterminds early on in the show. Then the women started taking a back seat to the men (JEK) aside from Susie (Inferno 3/Ruins), Sarah (Exes 2), Jonna (Seasons) and Jenn (FM2) but most of those girls are hated here. I don't think Marie, Kam & co control as much as you want to believe but the girls (thanks to having numbers) actually did finally play a decent political game this season. They were all pathetic on Vendettas and just allowed the guys to run the show. Nicole Z & Natalie were the only two that even somewhat tried.
deeper wrote:Still don't understand why they always edit out things in regard to Marie. I.e. her political saavy during Vendettas. Her spraining her ankle directly affects her performance during a final and it's kind of important to know that she was injured. You know if it was CT or Cara or practically anyone else, it'd be in there.
is this a Marie issue or a female issue? Which women do they really show being politically savvy? They gave Kam credit this season, because there was pretty much no other way they could tell that story, but for the most part they avoid showing girls' political moves.
It's not a sexist issue. Emily Bailey, Coral & Veronica were shown being the political masterminds early on in the show. Then the women started taking a back seat to the men (JEK) aside from Susie (Inferno 3/Ruins), Sarah (Exes 2), Jonna (Seasons) and Jenn (FM2) but most of those girls are hated here. I don't think Marie, Kam & co control as much as you want to believe but the girls (thanks to having numbers) actually did finally play a decent political game this season. They were all pathetic on Vendettas and just allowed the guys to run the show. Nicole Z & Natalie were the only two that even somewhat tried.
Hmm? I don't remember one thing she did last season other than **** Melissa & get injured lol.
@Kingofthetrill I remember you saying you'd change your picture to Marie when she makes a final. When can we expect the change?
I told Gamer a few times to send me the avatar and that never happened. I didn't technically say Marie, I said I'd let him pick my avatar. (As long as it was appropriate)
Also, that had nothing to do with Marie. That was IF Cara Maria made the finals AND if Bananas didn't. The fact that this was a 4 team final and Bananas/Tony went home in 5th was what sealed it.
kvm1977 wrote:It's not a sexist issue. Emily Bailey, Coral & Veronica were shown being the political masterminds early on in the show. Then the women started taking a back seat to the men (JEK) aside from Susie (Inferno 3/Ruins), Sarah (Exes 2), Jonna (Seasons) and Jenn (FM2) but most of those girls are hated here. I don't think Marie, Kam & co control as much as you want to believe but the girls (thanks to having numbers) actually did finally play a decent political game this season. They were all pathetic on Vendettas and just allowed the guys to run the show. Nicole Z & Natalie were the only two that even somewhat tried.
Hmm? I don't remember one thing she did last season other than **** Melissa & get injured lol.
I vaguely remember Nicole having a brief bit of power as Bananas wanted a day off from making enemies and Nicole pretty much single handedly sent Shane home. Natalie called out the misogyny for what it was but it's not like Zach or Tony ever had feelings. It was a poorly designed elimination system and they took advantage of it.
kvm1977 wrote:It's not a sexist issue. Emily Bailey, Coral & Veronica were shown being the political masterminds early on in the show. Then the women started taking a back seat to the men (JEK) aside from Susie (Inferno 3/Ruins), Sarah (Exes 2), Jonna (Seasons) and Jenn (FM2) but most of those girls are hated here. I don't think Marie, Kam & co control as much as you want to believe but the girls (thanks to having numbers) actually did finally play a decent political game this season. They were all pathetic on Vendettas and just allowed the guys to run the show. Nicole Z & Natalie were the only two that even somewhat tried.
Hmm? I don't remember one thing she did last season other than **** Melissa & get injured lol.
I vaguely remember Nicole having a brief bit of power as Bananas wanted a day off from making enemies and Nicole pretty much single handedly sent Shane home. Natalie called out the misogyny for what it was but it's not like Zach or Tony ever had feelings. It was a poorly designed elimination system and they took advantage of it.
Does getting rid of Shane of all people really make her a political mastermind ****
I love Jonna but I know you didn't just list her as someone who never took the backseat LMAOOOOO.
I didn't say she "never" took the backseat. She didn't on Seasons. She was pretty much the only one with a brain on Cancun or SD2. After that, Zach ruined her.
BIANCA wrote:Hmm? I don't remember one thing she did last season other than **** Melissa & get injured lol.
I vaguely remember Nicole having a brief bit of power as Bananas wanted a day off from making enemies and Nicole pretty much single handedly sent Shane home. Natalie called out the misogyny for what it was but it's not like Zach or Tony ever had feelings. It was a poorly designed elimination system and they took advantage of it.
Does getting rid of Shane of all people really make her a political mastermind ****
I just meant that she hogged the elimination deliberation and her 30 seconds of power to forcibly remove her vendetta.
I feel like Marie's the only person that could get injured during a reunion.
and she'd make it look cute too
Still don't understand why they always edit out things in regard to Marie. I.e. her political saavy during Vendettas. Her spraining her ankle directly affects her performance during a final and it's kind of important to know that she was injured. You know if it was CT or Cara or practically anyone else, it'd be in there.
id assume they didn’t record it. She said she went to a port o potty and during bananas and nats elim and it happened when she was coming back. I think.
I bet she got pushed like Helen did on BB15. I smell sabotoge.
To be fair, does anyone think that Marie has an objective chance of winning the final even if she was the only one without a sprained ankle?
Didn't someone say that one of the producers or editors or whatever didn't like her? That's probably why.
is this a Marie issue or a female issue? Which women do they really show being politically savvy? They gave Kam credit this season, because there was pretty much no other way they could tell that story, but for the most part they avoid showing girls' political moves.
Yes?
Yes because even if she loses the final, her winning at life cancels out the loss which means she's still a challenge champion.
Sylvia and Joss better fling everyone tonight. Especially Ratalie and @CTDefender411
Sorry, I meant does anyone intelligent think that Marie has an objective chance of winning the final even if she was the only one without a sprained ankle. My bad.
It's not a sexist issue. Emily Bailey, Coral & Veronica were shown being the political masterminds early on in the show. Then the women started taking a back seat to the men (JEK) aside from Susie (Inferno 3/Ruins), Sarah (Exes 2), Jonna (Seasons) and Jenn (FM2) but most of those girls are hated here. I don't think Marie, Kam & co control as much as you want to believe but the girls (thanks to having numbers) actually did finally play a decent political game this season. They were all pathetic on Vendettas and just allowed the guys to run the show. Nicole Z & Natalie were the only two that even somewhat tried.
@Kingofthetrill I remember you saying you'd change your picture to Marie when she makes a final. When can we expect the change?
I love Jonna but I know you didn't just list her as someone who never took the backseat LMAOOOOO.
Hmm? I don't remember one thing she did last season other than **** Melissa & get injured lol.
I told Gamer a few times to send me the avatar and that never happened. I didn't technically say Marie, I said I'd let him pick my avatar. (As long as it was appropriate)
Also, that had nothing to do with Marie. That was IF Cara Maria made the finals AND if Bananas didn't. The fact that this was a 4 team final and Bananas/Tony went home in 5th was what sealed it.
I vaguely remember Nicole having a brief bit of power as Bananas wanted a day off from making enemies and Nicole pretty much single handedly sent Shane home. Natalie called out the misogyny for what it was but it's not like Zach or Tony ever had feelings. It was a poorly designed elimination system and they took advantage of it.
Does getting rid of Shane of all people really make her a political mastermind ****
Here's the final..
Kill it Hunter/Paulie
I didn't say she "never" took the backseat. She didn't on Seasons. She was pretty much the only one with a brain on Cancun or SD2. After that, Zach ruined her.
I just meant that she hogged the elimination deliberation and her 30 seconds of power to forcibly remove her vendetta.
I like how many first time finalist there is in this final
"Trained my whole life for" Paulie is so lame
Ooh that was a nasty *** fall...
"i view paulie like a brother"...
paulie you've been friend zoned. take the money and run she just confirmed you're never getting in that latin booty.
Yeah, nice to see some fresh faces
Marie sucks already
How tf did Hunter fall like that omg do they not test this shit out before they do it? Smh
lol Marie.....
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