whats the point of all the people who start at day 1 to work so hard to stay the full season and some chumps showing up a month or 2 later and win 1 challenge and take someone elses spot?
I saw somewhere that Jordan and Derrick might be Invaders. Please tell me this isn’t true and they aren’t being rewarded for getting in a fake argument at the reuinion.
I saw somewhere that Jordan and Derrick might be Invaders. Please tell me this isn't true and they aren't being rewarded for getting in a fake argument at the reuinion.
**** no, I would boycott this season. I hate them both so much
Just a thought going through my head, but this next elimination IMO is going to be pivotal for power in the House. I feel like the power could potentially be equal amongst the teams remaining however the next elimination could swing the power to one side or another. Devin, and Cory is a game changer if they get into the house. One can only hope.
Jordan are Derrick (as much as I hate them) bypassing over half the game and invading would be such bullshit. They are way too strong of a team to be allowed to do that.
KingoftheTrill wrote:Devin also made a really good point at the reunion. (During the brief seconds he wasn't making an *** out of himself) If you sit around and let Bananas get to a final, then you've already lost. If you aren't trying to get Bananas into an elimination (where he doesn't have near the amount of success), then you are either playing a scared game, have your head up your ***, or you're Leroy. Getting Bananas out before the final pretty much increases everyone else's expected payday, and Devin sees that.
It's very point blank, there is no reason to not actively work towards targeting him early. He's one of the biggest threats in a final. Working with him shows me you do not want to win and you are complacent
Imo this is true for weaker players, but for much stronger players like Zack and CT it is wise to keep him around as a target for a while. Otherwise all the weak player will target and get all the strong players out. Just like in Survivor. The strong players usually keep other strong players in until the merge. Otherwise we will have a final run with nothing but layups. Who wants to see people walking up a hill for three days? I prefer to see the best get to finals. I don't want a three teams of Jemmye and Devin's. Although Jemmye was 100x better on this season. Would you really want to see a fleet of Jay's instead of a Tony, Zack and CT?
I think this is where Zach will really benefit just like he did on Vendettas. People were targetting Bananas and Joss first, and since he's generally well-liked he was able to float by and maintain control without anyone even having his name in their mouth. I bet this is probably his strategy this season again.As for finals, yeah of course I don't want to see the worst of the worst there, but I'd like to see different people there. It gets old watching the same people run finals. I'd like to see how Joss, Shane, Marie, Natalie, Brad(nowadays), Sylvia, etc do in a final because we haven't seen them. Doesn't mean I'm necessarily rooting for them, but I do think it's better and more exciting than say, the final on Dirty 30 where we know their abilities and they finished exactly where I expected them to.
I actually wouldn't have thought Kyle would beat Tony and Leroy. He did well. Partially because the other three were picking on one another and not him. But I agree. The same people time after time is a bit boring, but they keep winning because they are good politically and at comps and finals.
No one wants to see a bunch of Jays run a final. But watching the same 6 people compete time and time again? It makes it boring to even watch. It's not even politics anymore as much as it is "oh he's a vet, gotta put in a rookie" and then said vet coasts to the final. Especially when newbies are out numbering vets at this point. It should be easier to get them out. I mean the vets are good. But this new crew is making it to easy for them.
How I see it as well. Seems like for a long stretch, no matter how many people started the season, you could virtually lock in on the fact that John, Kenny, CT, Camilla, Cara and maybe someone else who I'm forgetting would be guaranteed a final spot. Too many times certain names just coast to the end. Ive always felt that I wished MTV would implement some rule that made it mandatory to face at least one elimination in order to go to a final. If not that, then maybe a rule where if one contestant wins two eliminations, they can't be voted in a third consecutive time. Something to that effect just to change things up.
KingoftheTrill wrote:Devin also made a really good point at the reunion. (During the brief seconds he wasn't making an *** out of himself) If you sit around and let Bananas get to a final, then you've already lost. If you aren't trying to get Bananas into an elimination (where he doesn't have near the amount of success), then you are either playing a scared game, have your head up your ***, or you're Leroy. Getting Bananas out before the final pretty much increases everyone else's expected payday, and Devin sees that.
It's very point blank, there is no reason to not actively work towards targeting him early. He's one of the biggest threats in a final. Working with him shows me you do not want to win and you are complacent
Imo this is true for weaker players, but for much stronger players like Zack and CT it is wise to keep him around as a target for a while. Otherwise all the weak player will target and get all the strong players out. Just like in Survivor. The strong players usually keep other strong players in until the merge. Otherwise we will have a final run with nothing but layups. Who wants to see people walking up a hill for three days? I prefer to see the best get to finals. I don't want a three teams of Jemmye and Devin's. Although Jemmye was 100x better on this season. Would you really want to see a fleet of Jay's instead of a Tony, Zack and CT?
I think this is where Zach will really benefit just like he did on Vendettas. People were targetting Bananas and Joss first, and since he's generally well-liked he was able to float by and maintain control without anyone even having his name in their mouth. I bet this is probably his strategy this season again.As for finals, yeah of course I don't want to see the worst of the worst there, but I'd like to see different people there. It gets old watching the same people run finals. I'd like to see how Joss, Shane, Marie, Natalie, Brad(nowadays), Sylvia, etc do in a final because we haven't seen them. Doesn't mean I'm necessarily rooting for them, but I do think it's better and more exciting than say, the final on Dirty 30 where we know their abilities and they finished exactly where I expected them to.
I actually wouldn't have thought Kyle would beat Tony and Leroy. He did well. Partially because the other three were picking on one another and not him. But I agree. The same people time after time is a bit boring, but they keep winning because they are good politically and at comps and finals.
No one wants to see a bunch of Jays run a final. But watching the same 6 people compete time and time again? It makes it boring to even watch. It's not even politics anymore as much as it is "oh he's a vet, gotta put in a rookie" and then said vet coasts to the final. Especially when newbies are out numbering vets at this point. It should be easier to get them out. I mean the vets are good. But this new crew is making it to easy for them.
How I see it as well. Seems like for a long stretch, no matter how many people started the season, you could virtually lock in on the fact that John, Kenny, CT, Camilla, Cara and maybe someone else who I'm forgetting would be guaranteed a final spot. Too many times certain names just coast to the end. Ive always felt that I wished MTV would implement some rule that made it mandatory to face at least one elimination in order to go to a final. If not that, then maybe a rule where if one contestant wins two eliminations, they can't be voted in a third consecutive time. Something to that effect just to change things up.
Nah, I don't think they need to put in weird rules like that. I would say they just need to cast a little better. No one wants to see someone win back to back challenges. Imo, if you win the previous season you should have to take the next off.
My 2 cents for this argument is that I just enjoy seeing different people in there. Ex. Nany and Reilly were surprises on FA and actually did really well. On paper I would've wrote them off, but they both came very close to winning.
KingoftheTrill wrote:Devin also made a really good point at the reunion. (During the brief seconds he wasn't making an *** out of himself) If you sit around and let Bananas get to a final, then you've already lost. If you aren't trying to get Bananas into an elimination (where he doesn't have near the amount of success), then you are either playing a scared game, have your head up your ***, or you're Leroy. Getting Bananas out before the final pretty much increases everyone else's expected payday, and Devin sees that.
It's very point blank, there is no reason to not actively work towards targeting him early. He's one of the biggest threats in a final. Working with him shows me you do not want to win and you are complacent
Imo this is true for weaker players, but for much stronger players like Zack and CT it is wise to keep him around as a target for a while. Otherwise all the weak player will target and get all the strong players out. Just like in Survivor. The strong players usually keep other strong players in until the merge. Otherwise we will have a final run with nothing but layups. Who wants to see people walking up a hill for three days? I prefer to see the best get to finals. I don't want a three teams of Jemmye and Devin's. Although Jemmye was 100x better on this season. Would you really want to see a fleet of Jay's instead of a Tony, Zack and CT?
I think this is where Zach will really benefit just like he did on Vendettas. People were targetting Bananas and Joss first, and since he's generally well-liked he was able to float by and maintain control without anyone even having his name in their mouth. I bet this is probably his strategy this season again.As for finals, yeah of course I don't want to see the worst of the worst there, but I'd like to see different people there. It gets old watching the same people run finals. I'd like to see how Joss, Shane, Marie, Natalie, Brad(nowadays), Sylvia, etc do in a final because we haven't seen them. Doesn't mean I'm necessarily rooting for them, but I do think it's better and more exciting than say, the final on Dirty 30 where we know their abilities and they finished exactly where I expected them to.
I actually wouldn't have thought Kyle would beat Tony and Leroy. He did well. Partially because the other three were picking on one another and not him. But I agree. The same people time after time is a bit boring, but they keep winning because they are good politically and at comps and finals.
No one wants to see a bunch of Jays run a final. But watching the same 6 people compete time and time again? It makes it boring to even watch. It's not even politics anymore as much as it is "oh he's a vet, gotta put in a rookie" and then said vet coasts to the final. Especially when newbies are out numbering vets at this point. It should be easier to get them out. I mean the vets are good. But this new crew is making it to easy for them.
How I see it as well. Seems like for a long stretch, no matter how many people started the season, you could virtually lock in on the fact that John, Kenny, CT, Camilla, Cara and maybe someone else who I'm forgetting would be guaranteed a final spot. Too many times certain names just coast to the end. Ive always felt that I wished MTV would implement some rule that made it mandatory to face at least one elimination in order to go to a final. If not that, then maybe a rule where if one contestant wins two eliminations, they can't be voted in a third consecutive time. Something to that effect just to change things up.
****, Kenny. Mr beautiful himself. If he and Evan didn't get those life long bans from the challenge I bet there wouldn't be so many banana victories and so many banana bandwagon fans. But yeah. No new rules. They REALLY just need to cast better. OR a better idea; Fresh Meat 3
I think people are too hard on jay.... he was the one motivating Jenna through the whole final...she's wanted to quit that final and had no intentions on drinking that fish juice but jay got all the blame for it and she got invited back...nate refused to jump out the plane on rivals 3 during the 1st mission and nobody said anything
I think people are too hard on jay.... he was the one motivating Jenna through the whole final...she's wanted to quit that final and had no intentions on drinking that fish juice but jay got all the blame for it and she got invited back...nate refused to jump out the plane on rivals 3 during the 1st mission and nobody said anything
It was weird. Usually there's a time cap (can only spend an hour at an eating station) and then if you can't finish you get a penalty on top of it. Was weird that they disqualified them then and there.
But no, Nate was pretty much ripped apart for Rivals 3 in general. People on here were livid when I think he was briefly cast on Invasion (or they thought he was).
I think people are too hard on jay.... he was the one motivating Jenna through the whole final...she's wanted to quit that final and had no intentions on drinking that fish juice but jay got all the blame for it and she got invited back...nate refused to jump out the plane on rivals 3 during the 1st mission and nobody said anything
I disagree. Nate caught a lot of shit from not jumping. And he hasn’t been recast since if I’m not mistaken.
I think people are too hard on jay.... he was the one motivating Jenna through the whole final...she's wanted to quit that final and had no intentions on drinking that fish juice but jay got all the blame for it and she got invited back...nate refused to jump out the plane on rivals 3 during the 1st mission and nobody said anything
Nate did get shit for not jumping. But I do agree with you on Jay.
Two observations ! One Sylvia is about to have mad beef with tony again this season because she’s right back where she was on invasion. Having to choose between her alliance and her real world roommate who is partnered with public enemy number one who no one wants to see in a final. Second if Devin makes it back into game Johnny and tony will have to literally win every challenge because the second they don’t and a team remotely strong either in brains or muscle looses they will be up for elimination based off of the numbers this season.
The other thing that bothered me about Jay was how tough he was talking during the reunion. He couldn't stand being referred to as a "layup" and he kept fighting it which made it that much worse. Jenna sat back and remained quiet which has worked significantly in her favor. (Look at her vs. Kailah)
The other thing that bothered me about Jay was how tough he was talking during the reunion. He couldn't stand being referred to as a "layup" and he kept fighting it which made it that much worse. Jenna sat back and remained quiet which has worked significantly in her favor. (Look at her vs. Kailah)
What is funny though is that all the teams that made fun of him and called him a layup still got outperformed by him numerous times since him and Jenna never got last in a challenge.
I don't blame him...what is he suppose to do not defend himself and let other guys call him weak??? Jenna didn't say anything cause that's just her personality...she a very quiet person in general
I don't blame him...what is he suppose to do not defend himself and let other guys call him weak??? Jenna didn't say anything cause that's just her personality...she a very quiet person in general
It's kind of like being Kyle vs. being Butters when Cartman makes fun of him. When Cartman says something about being Jewish, Kyle (in this example, Jay) will fight back and say "shut your ****** mouth fatboy" whereas Butters (in this example, Jenna) would be like "yeah, I'm a dirty Jew" or something like that and Cartman rarely did it since.
Point being that Jay should just keep his mouth shut. Eventually he will either prove himself on the field, or fade away into existence and all the other guys will find someone else to pick in. That's why Jenna is so much more well liked than either Jay or Kailah. Maybe it's his accent that makes him so annoying.
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two annoying people. Makes sense lol
enough is enough with the invaders!
ashley and hunter and devin and corey are enough.
whats the point of all the people who start at day 1 to work so hard to stay the full season and some chumps showing up a month or 2 later and win 1 challenge and take someone elses spot?
I saw somewhere that Jordan and Derrick might be Invaders. Please tell me this isn’t true and they aren’t being rewarded for getting in a fake argument at the reuinion.
The Vevmo Challenge is better than this.
**** no, I would boycott this season. I hate them both so much
Just a thought going through my head, but this next elimination IMO is going to be pivotal for power in the House. I feel like the power could potentially be equal amongst the teams remaining however the next elimination could swing the power to one side or another. Devin, and Cory is a game changer if they get into the house. One can only hope.
Jordan are Derrick (as much as I hate them) bypassing over half the game and invading would be such bullshit. They are way too strong of a team to be allowed to do that.
How I see it as well. Seems like for a long stretch, no matter how many people started the season, you could virtually lock in on the fact that John, Kenny, CT, Camilla, Cara and maybe someone else who I'm forgetting would be guaranteed a final spot. Too many times certain names just coast to the end. Ive always felt that I wished MTV would implement some rule that made it mandatory to face at least one elimination in order to go to a final. If not that, then maybe a rule where if one contestant wins two eliminations, they can't be voted in a third consecutive time. Something to that effect just to change things up.
Nah, I don't think they need to put in weird rules like that. I would say they just need to cast a little better. No one wants to see someone win back to back challenges. Imo, if you win the previous season you should have to take the next off.
My 2 cents for this argument is that I just enjoy seeing different people in there. Ex. Nany and Reilly were surprises on FA and actually did really well. On paper I would've wrote them off, but they both came very close to winning.
I hope that every invader who gets into the house is targetted (of course not including queen smashly and hunter)
I guarantee you the "mercenaries " are call something stupid this season like the reckoning balls or reckoners ****
omg low key I'd love reckoning balls and they played Miley when they came in. ICONIC. LOL
Especially for Ashley and hunter lol
****, Kenny. Mr beautiful himself. If he and Evan didn't get those life long bans from the challenge I bet there wouldn't be so many banana victories and so many banana bandwagon fans. But yeah. No new rules. They REALLY just need to cast better. OR a better idea; Fresh Meat 3
I think people are too hard on jay.... he was the one motivating Jenna through the whole final...she's wanted to quit that final and had no intentions on drinking that fish juice but jay got all the blame for it and she got invited back...nate refused to jump out the plane on rivals 3 during the 1st mission and nobody said anything
It was weird. Usually there's a time cap (can only spend an hour at an eating station) and then if you can't finish you get a penalty on top of it. Was weird that they disqualified them then and there.
But no, Nate was pretty much ripped apart for Rivals 3 in general. People on here were livid when I think he was briefly cast on Invasion (or they thought he was).
I disagree. Nate caught a lot of shit from not jumping. And he hasn’t been recast since if I’m not mistaken.
Nate did get shit for not jumping. But I do agree with you on Jay.
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Two observations ! One Sylvia is about to have mad beef with tony again this season because she’s right back where she was on invasion. Having to choose between her alliance and her real world roommate who is partnered with public enemy number one who no one wants to see in a final. Second if Devin makes it back into game Johnny and tony will have to literally win every challenge because the second they don’t and a team remotely strong either in brains or muscle looses they will be up for elimination based off of the numbers this season.
The other thing that bothered me about Jay was how tough he was talking during the reunion. He couldn't stand being referred to as a "layup" and he kept fighting it which made it that much worse. Jenna sat back and remained quiet which has worked significantly in her favor. (Look at her vs. Kailah)
What is funny though is that all the teams that made fun of him and called him a layup still got outperformed by him numerous times since him and Jenna never got last in a challenge.
I don't blame him...what is he suppose to do not defend himself and let other guys call him weak??? Jenna didn't say anything cause that's just her personality...she a very quiet person in general
He got banned
It's kind of like being Kyle vs. being Butters when Cartman makes fun of him. When Cartman says something about being Jewish, Kyle (in this example, Jay) will fight back and say "shut your ****** mouth fatboy" whereas Butters (in this example, Jenna) would be like "yeah, I'm a dirty Jew" or something like that and Cartman rarely did it since.
Point being that Jay should just keep his mouth shut. Eventually he will either prove himself on the field, or fade away into existence and all the other guys will find someone else to pick in. That's why Jenna is so much more well liked than either Jay or Kailah. Maybe it's his accent that makes him so annoying.
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