The Challenge: Final Reckoning (Spoilers Discussion)

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I really wish Coleysia Chesnut provided more drama on AYTO. She would’ve been great on a challenge. 

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BSmith27 wrote:Is Tori the most hated cast member on here? I have yet to see one person express disappointment that she is eliminated.

She's up there. She was hyped before Dirty 30. She just comes off as super rehearsed and fake and annoying in her confessionals, didn't really do anything on Dirty 30 and flopped on the final, but is still hyped by production and casuals. Besides her laying into Camila I haven't found anything redeeming about her.

I wouldn’t consider her a flop in the final, based on Cara saying she was ahead of her the entire time and was baffled that tori didn’t come in second over her

I guess Cara is a flop too then. Along with all the other girls Tori outperformed on Dirty 30 lol

Well, yeah I guess that is a flop then if she managed to be ahead and still lose lol. Just surprising how often someone is the clear leader in a final and manages to come in last. I hate the way they reveal winners these days it feels like it gives production too much room to make the winner they want 

Yeah agreed. I definitely still question CT's win on Invasion lol. 

I like when it's just whoever shows up to the final point first wins, like on FM2 and Exes.

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deeper wrote:

BSmith27 wrote:Is Tori the most hated cast member on here? I have yet to see one person express disappointment that she is eliminated.

She's up there. She was hyped before Dirty 30. She just comes off as super rehearsed and fake and annoying in her confessionals, didn't really do anything on Dirty 30 and flopped on the final, but is still hyped by production and casuals. Besides her laying into Camila I haven't found anything redeeming about her.

I wouldn’t consider her a flop in the final, based on Cara saying she was ahead of her the entire time and was baffled that tori didn’t come in second over her

I guess Cara is a flop too then. Along with all the other girls Tori outperformed on Dirty 30 lol

What exactly did she do? She was lucky to have Jordan for a lot of it, just saying.

Someone refresh my memory... What beef did Amanda and Zach have?

Someone refresh my memory... What beef did Amanda and Zach have?

None whatsoever, they just love Amanda and want her to do well so they have gave her the best partner possible

Someone refresh my memory... What beef did Amanda and Zach have?

Amanda started the finger banging rumor about Jenna which supposedly upset Zach (it didn't).

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SKB504 wrote:

deeper wrote:
BSmith27 wrote:Is Tori the most hated cast member on here? I have yet to see one person express disappointment that she is eliminated.

She's up there. She was hyped before Dirty 30. She just comes off as super rehearsed and fake and annoying in her confessionals, didn't really do anything on Dirty 30 and flopped on the final, but is still hyped by production and casuals. Besides her laying into Camila I haven't found anything redeeming about her.

I wouldn’t consider her a flop in the final, based on Cara saying she was ahead of her the entire time and was baffled that tori didn’t come in second over her

I guess Cara is a flop too then. Along with all the other girls Tori outperformed on Dirty 30 lol

What exactly did she do? She was lucky to have Jordan for a lot of it, just saying.

Some said the same for Cara being with CT. Wasn't Tori in the top 4 on the first challenge? Never did bad on challenges and everyone said she was a good competitor all season. I don't even like Tori that much but she was easily one of the best performers on that season next to Camila and Cara (who she almost beat even though she's done a bunch of these). 

deeper wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:

SKB504 wrote:
deeper wrote:
BSmith27 wrote:Is Tori the most hated cast member on here? I have yet to see one person express disappointment that she is eliminated.

She's up there. She was hyped before Dirty 30. She just comes off as super rehearsed and fake and annoying in her confessionals, didn't really do anything on Dirty 30 and flopped on the final, but is still hyped by production and casuals. Besides her laying into Camila I haven't found anything redeeming about her.

I wouldn’t consider her a flop in the final, based on Cara saying she was ahead of her the entire time and was baffled that tori didn’t come in second over her

I guess Cara is a flop too then. Along with all the other girls Tori outperformed on Dirty 30 lol

What exactly did she do? She was lucky to have Jordan for a lot of it, just saying.

Some said the same for Cara being with CT. Wasn't Tori in the top 4 on the first challenge? Never did bad on challenges and everyone said she was a good competitor all season. I don't even like Tori that much but she was easily one of the best performers on that season next to Camila and Cara (who she almost beat even though she's done a bunch of these). 

Honestly that's what I didn't like about Dirty 30 and Vendettas. They have like 1 or 2 individual comps and then it turns into these teams/pairs where it's hard to tell who does well, especially with the girls. I just wasn't that impressed with her to get the hype. I think Camila, Cara, Kailah, Jenna, and Veronica all were more impressive that season.

Second Chances pretty much ruined any chance of us every seeing Kaylen on TV again. You can thank Gio, Victoria Dehal, and all the other mongrels for disrespecting the queen.

Honestly disgusting that Tori is the only representation from AYTO 4........We deserved Kaylen Zahara

Queen is much too woke & driven to level up in life for this show. She's said numerous times she'll NEVER do it lol she's very focused on building her brand & doesn't want MTV ******* it up.

BSmith27 wrote:

Is Tori the most hated cast member on here? I have yet to see one person express disappointment that she is eliminated.

She's up there. She was hyped before Dirty 30. She just comes off as super rehearsed and fake and annoying in her confessionals, didn't really do anything on Dirty 30 and flopped on the final, but is still hyped by production and casuals. Besides her laying into Camila I haven't found anything redeeming about her.

I agree with everything besides the flopping in the finals. She actually did pretty well to me. I honestly was shocked she came in last. I swear cara got last and tori got second. It seemed tori was smoking her for second just as much as camilla was smoking tori and cara for first.

i love how amanda wasnt even the one who started the ************* rumor, nelson was messy drama starting extra king, but they still pin it on her and have stretched so far and turned it into a rivalry with zach 

i love how amanda wasnt even the one who started the ************* rumor, nelson was messy drama starting extra king, but they still pin it on her and have stretched so far and turned it into a rivalry with zach 

Oh yea lol but she did spread it. It's definitely a stretched rivalry, but if we can have twitter exchanges make rivalries....

SKB504 wrote:

Well, yeah I guess that is a flop then if she managed to be ahead and still lose lol. Just surprising how often someone is the clear leader in a final and manages to come in last. I hate the way they reveal winners these days it feels like it gives production too much room to make the winner they want 

Yeah agreed. I definitely still question CT's win on Invasion lol. I like when it's just whoever shows up to the final point first wins, like on FM2 and Exes.

agreed! Like how hard is it to just show who got to the end first, second and third?

KChallenge10 wrote:

deeper wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:
SKB504 wrote:
deeper wrote:
BSmith27 wrote:Is Tori the most hated cast member on here? I have yet to see one person express disappointment that she is eliminated.

She's up there. She was hyped before Dirty 30. She just comes off as super rehearsed and fake and annoying in her confessionals, didn't really do anything on Dirty 30 and flopped on the final, but is still hyped by production and casuals. Besides her laying into Camila I haven't found anything redeeming about her.

I wouldn't consider her a flop in the final, based on Cara saying she was ahead of her the entire time and was baffled that tori didn't come in second over her

I guess Cara is a flop too then. Along with all the other girls Tori outperformed on Dirty 30 lol

What exactly did she do? She was lucky to have Jordan for a lot of it, just saying.

Some said the same for Cara being with CT. Wasn't Tori in the top 4 on the first challenge? Never did bad on challenges and everyone said she was a good competitor all season. I don't even like Tori that much but she was easily one of the best performers on that season next to Camila and Cara (who she almost beat even though she's done a bunch of these). 

Honestly that's what I didn't like about Dirty 30 and Vendettas. They have like 1 or 2 individual comps and then it turns into these teams/pairs where it's hard to tell who does well, especially with the girls. I just wasn't that impressed with her to get the hype. I think Camila, Cara, Kailah, Jenna, and Veronica all were more impressive that season.

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i love how amanda wasnt even the one who started the ************* rumor, nelson was messy drama starting extra king, but they still pin it on her and have stretched so far and turned it into a rivalry with zach 

 

im still amazed that people 25+ years old are even saying things like "finger banging" . I hate Paulie but I hope he brings a more escalated level of drama and rumors than that with his rumored pot stirring this season. Cause if he walks up to brad and says "Brit and chuck dry humped in redemption" I will fall the **** out.

Second Chances pretty much ruined any chance of us every seeing Kaylen on TV again. You can thank Gio, Victoria Dehal, and all the other mongrels for disrespecting the queen.

Kaylen exposing Victoria Dehal for being a fraud on her youtube vlog >>>>

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KChallenge10 wrote:

deeper wrote:
KChallenge10 wrote:
SKB504 wrote:
deeper wrote:
BSmith27 wrote:Is Tori the most hated cast member on here? I have yet to see one person express disappointment that she is eliminated.

She's up there. She was hyped before Dirty 30. She just comes off as super rehearsed and fake and annoying in her confessionals, didn't really do anything on Dirty 30 and flopped on the final, but is still hyped by production and casuals. Besides her laying into Camila I haven't found anything redeeming about her.

I wouldn't consider her a flop in the final, based on Cara saying she was ahead of her the entire time and was baffled that tori didn't come in second over her

I guess Cara is a flop too then. Along with all the other girls Tori outperformed on Dirty 30 lol

What exactly did she do? She was lucky to have Jordan for a lot of it, just saying.

Some said the same for Cara being with CT. Wasn't Tori in the top 4 on the first challenge? Never did bad on challenges and everyone said she was a good competitor all season. I don't even like Tori that much but she was easily one of the best performers on that season next to Camila and Cara (who she almost beat even though she's done a bunch of these). 

Honestly that's what I didn't like about Dirty 30 and Vendettas. They have like 1 or 2 individual comps and then it turns into these teams/pairs where it's hard to tell who does well, especially with the girls. I just wasn't that impressed with her to get the hype. I think Camila, Cara, Kailah, Jenna, and Veronica all were more impressive that season.

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Ok maybe not Jenna ****, but Veronica did have a strong season on XXX.

Tori is just another example of being in that weird Overrated and Underrated category many people get in when they are pushed by MTV. Her performance in Dirty 30 was okay I give her 3rd or 4th girl overall interchangeable with Kailah, but it was nothing groundbreaking. Casuals love her and people who don’t like Casuals don’t like her. Just the luck of her draw 

HonestTea101 wrote:

Second Chances pretty much ruined any chance of us every seeing Kaylen on TV again. You can thank Gio, Victoria Dehal, and all the other mongrels for disrespecting the queen.

Kaylen exposing Victoria Dehal for being a fraud on her youtube vlog >>>>

And basically a jealous culture vulture too.

I am just so thankful Tori is out so early. Truly and honestly blessed.

Tori, CT AND Jenna! The meltdown that will ensue >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Tori, CT AND Jenna! The meltdown that will ensue >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I might start checking the challenge Facebook page again just to watch the excuses roll in 

Tori, CT AND Jenna! The meltdown that will ensue >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Tori, CT AND Jenna! The meltdown that will ensue >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Tori is just another example of being in that weird Overrated and Underrated category many people get in when they are pushed by MTV. Her performance in Dirty 30 was okay I give her 3rd or 4th girl overall interchangeable with Kailah, but it was nothing groundbreaking. Casuals love her and people who don’t like Casuals don’t like her. Just the luck of her draw 

I agree with that. And yeah I think a big reason is she isn't liked is because casuals love her which is odd.

Tori, CT AND Jenna! The meltdown that will ensue >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Queen Evelyn and King Wes coming in as mercenearies and clocking their way into the game to take down the bananna man. 

Devin is quaking from his home in the US.

Cara is crying because she finally has someone threatening her game. 

This season is CANCELLED! Bananas is clearly going to win now.

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