The Challenge: Final Reckoning (Spoilers Discussion) - Part II

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InterFan wrote:

deeper wrote:

InterFan wrote:
deeper wrote:Just trying to figure out when exactly our champion arrives 

Angela and Faith were part of the 2nd redemption so they were likely eliminated after tori/derrick or kam/kayleigh.

Ohh that's right. So Kam&Kayleigh probably got last on the third challenge, and Hunter&Ashley probably arrive for the third elimination against Angela&Fake right before the second redemption.

I don't think thats when they got last on a challenge. Thats supposed to be towards the end. Of course they could have come in last both times but i think it was said they only did purges after a redemption.Not sure if things have changed but at the time it was said that Natalie/Paulie beat Kam/Kayleigh in the redemption challenge.

And I thought that Cara and Marie were in the Redemption House with Natalie and Paulie at one point...

This is utterly confusing. I think they really did this enter and leave stuff just to mess with Vevmo so it couldn't spoil the whole season. LOL

deeper wrote:

InterFan wrote:

deeper wrote:Just trying to figure out when exactly our champion arrives 

Angela and Faith were part of the 2nd redemption so they were likely eliminated after tori/derrick or kam/kayleigh.

Ohh that's right. So Kam&Kayleigh probably got last on the third challenge, and Hunter&Ashley probably arrive for the third elimination against Angela&Fake right before the second redemption.

I don't think thats when they got last on a challenge. Thats supposed to be towards the end. Of course they could have come in last both times but i think it was said they only did purges after a redemption.Not sure if things have changed but at the time it was said that Natalie/Paulie beat Kam/Kayleigh in the redemption challenge.

Oh didn't know that either! Thanks.

Hmm so we are probably looking at 1 redemption and 2 more challenges/eliminations before Ashley&Hunter show up, so hopefully they're there by episode like 9 optimistically with how the editing is going lmaooooo

So after this it goes:Redemption 1: Day&Jozea beat Natalie&PaulieCT&V last on challengeJoss&Sylvia beat Tori&DerrickKam&Kayleigh lose to unknown teamRedemption 2: Natalie&Paulie beat Kam&Kayleigh (or is it the other way around?)Ashley&Hunter enter by beating Fake&Angela?

After the first redemption its a mess to me as of now. 

InterFan wrote:

deeper wrote:

InterFan wrote:
deeper wrote:Just trying to figure out when exactly our champion arrives 

Angela and Faith were part of the 2nd redemption so they were likely eliminated after tori/derrick or kam/kayleigh.

Ohh that's right. So Kam&Kayleigh probably got last on the third challenge, and Hunter&Ashley probably arrive for the third elimination against Angela&Fake right before the second redemption.

I don't think thats when they got last on a challenge. Thats supposed to be towards the end. Of course they could have come in last both times but i think it was said they only did purges after a redemption.Not sure if things have changed but at the time it was said that Natalie/Paulie beat Kam/Kayleigh in the redemption challenge.

And I thought that Cara and Marie were in the Redemption House with Natalie and Paulie at one point...

Natalie and Paulie go back to redemption soon after lol

I'm still confused of that trailer of Natalie pulling the double cross and of Mama Day screaming. I thought that was the first redemption. Was that for the 3rd redemption which Natalie ended up not saving them?

I'm still confused of that trailer of Natalie pulling the double cross and of Mama Day screaming. I thought that was the first redemption. Was that for the 3rd redemption which Natalie ended up not saving them?

If that's true, that means that Natalie&Paulie pulled all 3 of the first double crosses... Devin Rivals 3 vibes. I could see this being true and then they choose to save Cara Maria & Marie instead of Day & Jozea.

I somehow think that's the first redemption... maybe the lighting is just different (they do lighten and darken the elimination arena)

InterFan wrote:

deeper wrote:

InterFan wrote:
deeper wrote:Just trying to figure out when exactly our champion arrives 

Angela and Faith were part of the 2nd redemption so they were likely eliminated after tori/derrick or kam/kayleigh.

Ohh that's right. So Kam&Kayleigh probably got last on the third challenge, and Hunter&Ashley probably arrive for the third elimination against Angela&Fake right before the second redemption.

I don't think thats when they got last on a challenge. Thats supposed to be towards the end. Of course they could have come in last both times but i think it was said they only did purges after a redemption.Not sure if things have changed but at the time it was said that Natalie/Paulie beat Kam/Kayleigh in the redemption challenge.

Oh didn't know that either! Thanks.Hmm so we are probably looking at 1 redemption and 2 more challenges/eliminations before Ashley&Hunter show up, so hopefully they're there by episode like 9 optimistically with how the editing is going lmaooooo

Okay i just watched the 2nd trailer and Kam/Kayleigh are still in the house when Ashley & Hunter show up. So 1 redemption plus 1 challenge and elimination. So the earliest we could see them is episode 6 but it'll probably be episode 8.

Dreamdoll wrote:

I'm still confused of that trailer of Natalie pulling the double cross and of Mama Day screaming. I thought that was the first redemption. Was that for the 3rd redemption which Natalie ended up not saving them?

If that's true, that means that Natalie&Paulie pulled all 3 of the first double crosses... Devin Rivals 3 vibes. I could see this being true and then they choose to save Cara Maria & Marie instead of Day & Jozea.I somehow think that's the first redemption... maybe the lighting is just different (they do lighten and darken the elimination arena)

I don't think Cara/Marie were at redemption with Da'vonne/Jozea at any point.

Natalie and Paulie didn't pull the second double cross? I thought Kam and Kayleigh did and they chose to go against Nat/Paulie sending CT/V, Tori/Derrick and Faith/Angela home. 

Natalie and Paulie didn't pull the second double cross? I thought Kam and Kayleigh did and they chose to go against Nat/Paulie sending CT/V, Tori/Derrick and Faith/Angela home. 

Yeah i remember that was said. Specifically that Bananas was mad at Kayleigh for not picking Angela and Faith.

deeper wrote:

Dreamdoll wrote:I'm still confused of that trailer of Natalie pulling the double cross and of Mama Day screaming. I thought that was the first redemption. Was that for the 3rd redemption which Natalie ended up not saving them?

If that's true, that means that Natalie&Paulie pulled all 3 of the first double crosses... Devin Rivals 3 vibes. I could see this being true and then they choose to save Cara Maria & Marie instead of Day & Jozea.I somehow think that's the first redemption... maybe the lighting is just different (they do lighten and darken the elimination arena)

I don't think Cara/Marie were at redemption with Da'vonne/Jozea at any point.

Well I think Da'Vonne and Jozea go home at the third redemption? Were Natalie and Paulie literally there for every redemption?? lmaooo def at least 3/4..

deeper wrote:

InterFan wrote:

deeper wrote:
InterFan wrote:
deeper wrote:Just trying to figure out when exactly our champion arrives 

Angela and Faith were part of the 2nd redemption so they were likely eliminated after tori/derrick or kam/kayleigh.

Ohh that's right. So Kam&Kayleigh probably got last on the third challenge, and Hunter&Ashley probably arrive for the third elimination against Angela&Fake right before the second redemption.

I don't think thats when they got last on a challenge. Thats supposed to be towards the end. Of course they could have come in last both times but i think it was said they only did purges after a redemption.Not sure if things have changed but at the time it was said that Natalie/Paulie beat Kam/Kayleigh in the redemption challenge.

Oh didn't know that either! Thanks.Hmm so we are probably looking at 1 redemption and 2 more challenges/eliminations before Ashley&Hunter show up, so hopefully they're there by episode like 9 optimistically with how the editing is going lmaooooo

Okay i just watched the 2nd trailer and Kam/Kayleigh are still in the house when Ashley & Hunter show up. So 1 redemption plus 1 challenge and elimination. So the earliest we could see them is episode 6 but it'll probably be episode 8.

Ok good.. so that means they show up to face off against Angela&Faith the episode after Joss&Sylvia take out Tori&Derrick. I just want them to get there soon-ish so that the casuals can't discredit their win too much 

Well when Cory/Devin come in, isn't that a three way elimination (Zach/Amanda, Jozea/Day, Cory/Devin)? Would it be the same for when Ashley/Hunter enter? So they would face against Angela/Faith and some other team, I can see them choosing Jozea/Day or Kam/Kay (since we know Kam didn't like how they worked this season.)

What a mess this all is. It just makes the show unorganized and hard to follow. Production really so bad they can’t plan a proper format out

I'm still confused of that trailer of Natalie pulling the double cross and of Mama Day screaming. I thought that was the first redemption. Was that for the 3rd redemption which Natalie ended up not saving them?

That scene was filmed twice. Production originally filmed it during the day, but decided for dramatic effect to do it at the Armageddon in front of everyone.

The version we will see is staged to match what happened during the original daytime filming.

Cory and Devin dead won’t show up on our TVs until almost Halloween at this rate LOL

What a mess this all is. It just makes the show unorganized and hard to follow. Production really so bad they can’t plan a proper format out

Natalie and Paulie didn't pull the second double cross? I thought Kam and Kayleigh did and they chose to go against Nat/Paulie sending CT/V, Tori/Derrick and Faith/Angela home. 

If its not on the lock thread it wasnt confirmed. 

After the first redemption it got messy to me and a lot of contradictory info. So no idea which teams ended there except for the ones out. All I heard that other than Sylvia/Joss and Ash/Hunter every other team was there at some point.

InterFan wrote:

deeper wrote:

Dreamdoll wrote:I'm still confused of that trailer of Natalie pulling the double cross and of Mama Day screaming. I thought that was the first redemption. Was that for the 3rd redemption which Natalie ended up not saving them?

If that's true, that means that Natalie&Paulie pulled all 3 of the first double crosses... Devin Rivals 3 vibes. I could see this being true and then they choose to save Cara Maria & Marie instead of Day & Jozea.I somehow think that's the first redemption... maybe the lighting is just different (they do lighten and darken the elimination arena)

I don't think Cara/Marie were at redemption with Da'vonne/Jozea at any point.

Well I think Da'Vonne and Jozea go home at the third redemption? Were Natalie and Paulie literally there for every redemption?? lmaooo def at least 3/4..

Yeah they went out with Zach/Amanda. From what i remember, the spoiler team said that Brad and Kyle were also in the third redemption and they lost to Kam/Kayleigh in the third redemption.

But then later on Pink heard that Cara/Marie might have been in the third redemption as well. So its really confusing lol

Ceej3 wrote:

Natalie and Paulie didn't pull the second double cross? I thought Kam and Kayleigh did and they chose to go against Nat/Paulie sending CT/V, Tori/Derrick and Faith/Angela home. 

Yeah i remember that was said. Specifically that Bananas was mad at Kayleigh for not picking Angela and Faith.

& Angela is mad at Kam for "sending" her home still based on cara live. But Like I said before if its not on the lock thread then its not confirmed. 

All I know is that after the first redemption I kept hearing different versions so didnt update it after that. It gets messy.

InterFan wrote:

deeper wrote:

Dreamdoll wrote:I'm still confused of that trailer of Natalie pulling the double cross and of Mama Day screaming. I thought that was the first redemption. Was that for the 3rd redemption which Natalie ended up not saving them?

If that's true, that means that Natalie&Paulie pulled all 3 of the first double crosses... Devin Rivals 3 vibes. I could see this being true and then they choose to save Cara Maria & Marie instead of Day & Jozea.I somehow think that's the first redemption... maybe the lighting is just different (they do lighten and darken the elimination arena)

I don't think Cara/Marie were at redemption with Da'vonne/Jozea at any point.

Well I think Da'Vonne and Jozea go home at the third redemption? Were Natalie and Paulie literally there for every redemption?? lmaooo def at least 3/4..

Paulie and Natalie are 100% there for 5 weeks out of the 8 they film. Not sure if its 5 weeks straight or if its break between them.

deeper wrote:

InterFan wrote:

deeper wrote:
Dreamdoll wrote:I'm still confused of that trailer of Natalie pulling the double cross and of Mama Day screaming. I thought that was the first redemption. Was that for the 3rd redemption which Natalie ended up not saving them?

If that's true, that means that Natalie&Paulie pulled all 3 of the first double crosses... Devin Rivals 3 vibes. I could see this being true and then they choose to save Cara Maria & Marie instead of Day & Jozea.I somehow think that's the first redemption... maybe the lighting is just different (they do lighten and darken the elimination arena)

I don't think Cara/Marie were at redemption with Da'vonne/Jozea at any point.

Well I think Da'Vonne and Jozea go home at the third redemption? Were Natalie and Paulie literally there for every redemption?? lmaooo def at least 3/4..

Paulie and Natalie are 100% there for 5 weeks out of the 8 they film. Not sure if its 5 weeks straight or if its break between them.

Makes me chuckle

Anyone have a link or source who is spreading the false rumors that Natalie was tweeting about?

Some double crosses did happenned the day before the Redemption or the apocalypse whatever they called it this season. I remember I was told that at some point during filming.

Is it possible that Ashley/Hunter faced Angela/Faith and Kam/Kayleigh? Might be how Kam/Kayleigh ended up in redemption the first time. I think im wrong though lol

Wasn't it also said multiple teams came back from some redemptions?

So Paulie and Natalie literally don’t come back until the end of the season because the redemption twist? How many times did they lose sksksksksk

Is it possible that Ashley/Hunter faced Angela/Faith and Kam/Kayleigh? Might be how Kam/Kayleigh ended up in redemption the first time. I think im wrong though lol

If they end up on that redemption I gave up figuring out be cause it was to much a mess abd contradictory to figure it out lol

Tbh- If I remember correctly by what gamer and player told me the only reason it was 3 way with Zach/Amanda is because they couldn't decide of who they wanted to vote for?

Wasn't it also said multiple teams came back from some redemptions?

Yes lol 

Good Lord this shit is Messy lol.

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