The Challenge: Final Reckoning (Spoilers Discussion) - Part II

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Why do we always pick on the females, but not the males? There needs to be more hate directed towards Tony, Kyle, etc. and less on Cara  & the Lascivicious ladies Wink

sure, well someone at the med-gift event said tony passed out drunk and was throwing slices at their friends. Kinda confirms the vendettas sober edit was bs.

Any truth we are getting cast pics today?

Any truth we are getting cast pics today?

 

Probably not, cast pics come after the trailer I would think

Any truth we are getting cast pics today?

 

Probably not, cast pics come after the trailer I would think

Slayvia2370 wrote:

Any truth we are getting cast pics today?

 Probably not, cast pics come after the trailer I would think

Can't stand Amanda, but you literally have the sexiest AVI :O Those two would make hot *** babies

How Kyle got hair transplant and still has that big *** forehead lmaoo

Slayvia2370 wrote:

Any truth we are getting cast pics today?

 Probably not, cast pics come after the trailer I would think

i just saw on twitter then saying that the mtv website challenge part is down when u try and view cast 

natfan42 wrote:

Its only kailah she 4th season. It took cara like 8 to get her first win.

yeah but kailah only made it to the final once. And it's just that she talked such a biiiig game for how she performed. I mean I am not a big ashley fan but the girl delivers. 

In Kailah's defense, it's a lot harder to get to a final now than it was when Cara was doing her earlier Challenges.

And Kailah never got Laurel or Cooke as her partners.

kooki wrote:

natfan42 wrote:Its only kailah she 4th season. It took cara like 8 to get her first win.

yeah but kailah only made it to the final once. And it's just that she talked such a biiiig game for how she performed. I mean I am not a big ashley fan but the girl delivers. 

In Kailah's defense, it's a lot harder to get to a final now than it was when Cara was doing her earlier Challenges.And Kailah never got Laurel or Cooke as her partners.

Honestly Ashley does her thing and I am not mad at it. She’s always performed well imo, although I can’t speak for her performance in FR yet. But good for her already winning twice. 

So PR did Cara and Paulie hook up while in the house? Or is this something new?

kooki wrote:

natfan42 wrote:Its only kailah she 4th season. It took cara like 8 to get her first win.

yeah but kailah only made it to the final once. And it's just that she talked such a biiiig game for how she performed. I mean I am not a big ashley fan but the girl delivers. 

In Kailah's defense, it's a lot harder to get to a final now than it was when Cara was doing her earlier Challenges.And Kailah never got Laurel or Cooke as her partners.

Again Kailah has talked such a big game that she has to back it up especially that she has been in seasons where they play individually soooo she has no one to blame but herself.

So PR did Cara and Paulie hook up while in the house? Or is this something new?

Doesn't Paulie have a girlfriend??

Aspiring wrote:

kooki wrote:

natfan42 wrote:Its only kailah she 4th season. It took cara like 8 to get her first win.

yeah but kailah only made it to the final once. And it's just that she talked such a biiiig game for how she performed. I mean I am not a big ashley fan but the girl delivers. 

In Kailah's defense, it's a lot harder to get to a final now than it was when Cara was doing her earlier Challenges.And Kailah never got Laurel or Cooke as her partners.

Honestly Ashley does her thing and I am not mad at it. She’s always performed well imo, although I can’t speak for her performance in FR yet. But good for her already winning twice. 

Ashley is also smarter than Kailah. It is true that she delivers in finals but her getting there includes her both performing well physically and politically. A big part of her getting to the final on invasion was her staying under the radar, also she never trully goes against the vets, she is friends with most of them so she kinda plays both sides, which is smart. 

BSmith27 wrote:

Slayvia2370 wrote:Any truth we are getting cast pics today?

 Probably not, cast pics come after the trailer I would think

Can't stand Amanda, but you literally have the sexiest AVI :O Those two would make hot *** babies

Hotter than Amanda and Joss?

Any other guesses on who will get hero/villain edits?

kooki wrote:

natfan42 wrote:Its only kailah she 4th season. It took cara like 8 to get her first win.

yeah but kailah only made it to the final once. And it's just that she talked such a biiiig game for how she performed. I mean I am not a big ashley fan but the girl delivers. 

In Kailah's defense, it's a lot harder to get to a final now than it was when Cara was doing her earlier Challenges.And Kailah never got Laurel or Cooke as her partners.

Kailah has had alot of backing in each season she has done well on. She's had Tony, Jenna, Jordan, Zack, Marie, Kam, etc. She has had a pretty easy time strategy wise imo. Not putting her down. But she has had tons of well positioned, and even throwing challenges for her, friends. That is better social positioning which Cara has rarely had. She did have better social positioning in XXX but she was also working with Kailah, so... And in Cara's first 5 seasons she was literally working alone and picked on miserably. I do see Kailah eventually having a chance to win one of these, but she needs to party less and stop with the ************ hate. 

Yes.  Joss is gorgeous but Joss is another generically pretty white boy; there's so many of those. Nelson has some flavor; he's got that beautiful chocolate skin!

Aspiring wrote:

kooki wrote:

natfan42 wrote:Its only kailah she 4th season. It took cara like 8 to get her first win.

yeah but kailah only made it to the final once. And it's just that she talked such a biiiig game for how she performed. I mean I am not a big ashley fan but the girl delivers. 

In Kailah's defense, it's a lot harder to get to a final now than it was when Cara was doing her earlier Challenges.And Kailah never got Laurel or Cooke as her partners.

Again Kailah has talked such a big game that she has to back it up especially that she has been in seasons where they play individually soooo she has no one to blame but herself.

And I'm not disputing that, but I'm just saying, it's much harder to get to a final than it was for Cara in her earlier seasons. It took Cara 8 tries to get to her first win. So I imagine it would take Kailah longer to get there.

Kailah is a good competitor, she's just largely unfocused. I don't doubt she'll eventually have a win under her belt in the future.

Aspiring wrote:

kooki wrote:

natfan42 wrote:Its only kailah she 4th season. It took cara like 8 to get her first win.

yeah but kailah only made it to the final once. And it's just that she talked such a biiiig game for how she performed. I mean I am not a big ashley fan but the girl delivers. 

In Kailah's defense, it's a lot harder to get to a final now than it was when Cara was doing her earlier Challenges.And Kailah never got Laurel or Cooke as her partners.

Kailah has had alot of backing in each season she has done well on. She's had Tony, Jenna, Jordan, Zack, Marie, Kam, etc. She has had a pretty easy time strategy wise imo. Not putting her down. But she has had tons of well positioned, and even throwing challenges for her, friends. That is better social positioning which Cara has rarely had. She did have better social positioning in XXX but she was also working with Kailah, so... And in Cara's first 5 seasons she was literally working aloneand picked on miserably. I do see Kailah eventually having a chance to win one of these, but she needs to party less and stop with the ************ hate. 

But on 4 of those 5 seasons she was partner with the best of the best so not having numbers was nothing to worried about lol

Fresh Meat 2- Darrell one of the best ppl to appear on this show, her inexperience was the biggest weakness on her part this season.

Cutthroat- Abram and had the majority of ppl on her side on the second half of the seson because she was dating their "leader".

Rivals- Laurel easily on the top 3 best female competitor this show have seen.

Exes- Abram again a beast.

Seasons- Other than Camila this was the first time she was given a tragic team lol

Why does Kailah and Cara always get lumped together on here? Y’all do know there are other people that don’t like each other right? Comparing the 2 is old and tired. Can’t we all just move on from that beef cuz I’m pretty sure there’s much more new beef and Kailah is barely in this season 

kooki wrote:

Aspiring wrote:

kooki wrote:
natfan42 wrote:Its only kailah she 4th season. It took cara like 8 to get her first win.

yeah but kailah only made it to the final once. And it's just that she talked such a biiiig game for how she performed. I mean I am not a big ashley fan but the girl delivers. 

In Kailah's defense, it's a lot harder to get to a final now than it was when Cara was doing her earlier Challenges.And Kailah never got Laurel or Cooke as her partners.

Again Kailah has talked such a big game that she has to back it up especially that she has been in seasons where they play individually soooo she has no one to blame but herself.

And I'm not disputing that, but I'm just saying, it's much harder to get to a final than it was for Cara in her earlier seasons. It took Cara 8 tries to get to her first win. So I imagine it would take Kailah longer to get there.Kailah is a good competitor, she's just largely unfocused. I don't doubt she'll eventually have a win under her belt in the future.

Kailah has had a lot more allies on each game than cara did on her first few seasons, also Kailah is not a bad competitor but she is more focused on hating on other girlsthanactually playing the game.I feel like she wants to be one of the faces of the show but she is not very well liked to be that cuz of her arrogance. I mean even if she was winning , her arrogance would be annoying but the fact that she is soo entitledfor nooo reason makes her even more annoying.

Why does Kailah and Cara always get lumped together on here? Y’all do know there are other people that don’t like each other right? Comparing the 2 is old and tired. Can’t we all just move on from that beef cuz I’m pretty sure there’s much more new beef and Kailah is barely in this season 

PREACCH!!!!! Let's talk about Natalie vs. Amanda. Let's just stop talking about Cara Maria, because she's overexposed as it is. I mean, I love her, but enough is enough.

 

Someone who's seen the UK shows can answer this. Is Joss ********? He's all over his guy friends especially rogan. I've never seen friends do naked photo shoots before lol

Aspiring wrote:

kooki wrote:

Aspiring wrote:
kooki wrote:
natfan42 wrote:Its only kailah she 4th season. It took cara like 8 to get her first win.

yeah but kailah only made it to the final once. And it's just that she talked such a biiiig game for how she performed. I mean I am not a big ashley fan but the girl delivers. 

In Kailah's defense, it's a lot harder to get to a final now than it was when Cara was doing her earlier Challenges.And Kailah never got Laurel or Cooke as her partners.

Again Kailah has talked such a big game that she has to back it up especially that she has been in seasons where they play individually soooo she has no one to blame but herself.

And I'm not disputing that, but I'm just saying, it's much harder to get to a final than it was for Cara in her earlier seasons. It took Cara 8 tries to get to her first win. So I imagine it would take Kailah longer to get there.Kailah is a good competitor, she's just largely unfocused. I don't doubt she'll eventually have a win under her belt in the future.

Kailah has had a lot more allies on each game than cara did on her first few seasons, also Kailah is not a bad competitor but she is more focused on hating on other girlsthanactually playing the game.I feel like she wants to be one of the faces of the show but she is not very well liked to be that cuz of her arrogance. I mean even if she was winning , her arrogance would be annoying but the fact that she is soo entitledfor nooo reason makes

her even more annoying.

& Cara had beasts/Legends on her side or as partners on her first 4 seasons. Kailah first 3 seasons it was free agents type of format & on this one even if she disnt dq she was stuck with Kayleigh as a partner....So the comparission is irrelevant.

 

Someone who's seen the UK shows can answer this. Is Joss ********? He's all over his guy friends especially rogan. I've never seen friends do naked photo shoots before lol

no. UK guys are so different from US guys. They do shit like that & it's completely normal. 

Someone who's seen the UK shows can answer this. Is Joss ********? He's all over his guy friends especially rogan. I've never seen friends do naked photo shoots before lol

UK guys seem to be like that & comfortable doing those type of stuff

Someone who's seen the UK shows can answer this. Is Joss ********? He's all over his guy friends especially rogan. I've never seen friends do naked photo shoots before lol

I'm pretty sure Rogan is bi.

I am also very intrigued to watch the big brother cast dynamic since they are all from one season and they all hated paulie, I mean nat cost paulie his game and his image so I wonder how it's gonna be, especially at first because now they seem very fine.

Aspiring wrote:

kooki wrote:

natfan42 wrote:Its only kailah she 4th season. It took cara like 8 to get her first win.

yeah but kailah only made it to the final once. And it's just that she talked such a biiiig game for how she performed. I mean I am not a big ashley fan but the girl delivers. 

In Kailah's defense, it's a lot harder to get to a final now than it was when Cara was doing her earlier Challenges.And Kailah never got Laurel or Cooke as her partners.

Kailah has had alot of backing in each season she has done well on. She's had Tony, Jenna, Jordan, Zack, Marie, Kam, etc. She has had a pretty easy time strategy wise imo. Not putting her down. But she has had tons of well positioned, and even throwing challenges for her, friends. That is better social positioning which Cara has rarely had. She did have better social positioning in XXX but she was also working with Kailah, so... And in Cara's first 5 seasons she was literally working alone and picked on miserably. I do see Kailah eventually having a chance to win one of these, but she needs to party less and stop with the ************ hate. 

"Well positioned"... where? Kailah was one of the most hated girls on Invasion and literally only had Jenna. On Dirty 30 she still only really had Jenna and made alliances with Cara, Camila, and Tori. On Vendettas she finally had to branch out and politic to survive, which she did great at. There's a difference between being well-positioned, and having to politic.

She talked a big game which hasn't helped, but there's no denying she was one of the top 3/4 girls on Dirty 30 and Vendettas. She needs to work on endurance and she has a shot. As another user said though, all 3 Challenges she's been on were individual and 1 was pairs, where she was paired with Kayleigh, who is far from a Cooke or Laurel. Cara didn't even do an individual season until her 7th season. It's a lot harder to make finals, let alone win them lately.

HonestTea101 wrote:

Someone who's seen the UK shows can answer this. Is Joss ********? He's all over his guy friends especially rogan. I've never seen friends do naked photo shoots before lol

no. UK guys are so different from US guys. They do shit like that & it's completely normal. 

slap and tickle my friend it's a thing

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