And its quite clear now that this whole "bringing people from other networks" idea is not bringing in the ratings like they thought. Keep the shows who've already appeared + Survivor but don't add anymore, especially random ones from overseas.
Would a challenge or elimination really making that much of a difference. The same cast and spotlight uninteresting storylines are killing it. If they are boring to watch, i wont tune in to watch them doing challenges and elimination rounds tbh.
The first 3 episodes of Invasion with similar rating as this episode & having new ppl would disagree with you since it was around the same range.
Would a challenge or elimination really making that much of a difference. The same cast and spotlight uninteresting storylines are killing it. If they are boring to watch, i wont tune in to watch them doing challenges and elimination rounds tbh.
The first 3 episodes of Invasion with similar rating as this episode & having new ppl would disagree with you since it was around the same range.
I remember how after Invasion, MTV put sooo much (finally) effort into The Challenge and their favorite personalities, to have them be in the same range now as they had during the start of this push, should trigger something or somebody.
I hope they come to the conclusion that's its either the episode formula or cast storylines.
Would a challenge or elimination really making that much of a difference. The same cast and spotlight uninteresting storylines are killing it. If they are boring to watch, i wont tune in to watch them doing challenges and elimination rounds tbh.
That's the biggest complaint I've seen besides excessive drama. I can assure you that myself and thousands of others still dont care about Cara and Kyle's relationship after 5 episodes...
I understand you and daddy's point, but if the cast is made up of people that are long overdue for a break/retirement, same as the last 4 season basically, uninteresting and even forced, i wouldnt be interested in the slightest to watch them in any elimination round.
Its literally called the Challenge. For it to be going into week 6 with ONE REAL ELIMINATION alone says something. Bring the challenge back to the challenges and the drama for the real world.
Yeah. The Pacing and constant dragging out is really hurting this show now. And on top of that the storylines they're using to fill up so much time are just uniteresting and boring as ****. Like does anyone really give a shit about this Kyle/Cara ****? Both just need to do their own thing and leave each other alone, And I love Nelson and Kayleigh but thier whole storyline is just boring as shit. IMO if they're going to drag this shit out then the shows need to be filled to the brim with shit that's worth watching.
And also I think fatigue has something to do with this as well. I mean we've had Challenge, Spinoff, Challenge, spinoff back to back basically and there's no real break inbetween seasons. That really needs to stop honestly.
Yeah. The Pacing and constant dragging out is really hurting this show now. And on top of that the storylines they're using to fill up so much time are just uniteresting and boring as ****. Like does anyone really give a shit about this Kyle/Cara ****? Both just need to do their own thing and leave each other alone, And I love Nelson and Kayleigh but thier whole storyline is just boring as shit. IMO if they're going to drag this shit out then the shows need to be filled to the brim with shit that's worth watching. And also I think fatigue has something to do with this as well. I mean we've had Challenge, Spinoff, Challenge, spinoff back to back basically and there's no real break inbetween seasons. That really needs to stop honestly.
add to that a Shane/ Kyle beef over twitter chat and Angela spreading her fake *** legs for bananas. For real, who the **** wants to watch any of that? I like cara and Nelson but I'm bored as ****
I'm glad the viewers keep getting lower and lower. This season is completely TRASH. I've never been so irritated with a show in my life.
not even survivor? Idk it's a toss up between this and survivor for me. Survivor I'm confident will never change; the challenge idk why I had hope but this whole trilogy can eat a ****
I'm glad the viewers keep getting lower and lower. This season is completely TRASH. I've never been so irritated with a show in my life.
not even survivor? Idk it's a toss up between this and survivor for me. Survivor I'm confident will never change; the challenge idk why I had hope but this whole trilogy can eat a ****
Survivor is still decent though. I haven't even enjoyed watching any of these episodes. It's trash, nothing is happening. And the stuff that is happening, nobody gives a **** about.
Tori got too many confessionals last night. All 200,000 prob started the second the segment about her and Derrick started. Or 5 min after the way too long segment with Eore aka Brad.
It’s no reason why Britni & Chuck are still getting mentioned in an episode when they’ve been gone 2 episodes prior not to mention they’re dragging even more snooze fest storylines with Kayleigh and Nelson. They’re lazy with the editing but we all been knew this would happen and I’m glad the casuals are seeing it.
I think they made a lot of fatal mistakes this season. The unbalanced pairing of teams makes it not exciting. The purges are annoying and dumb. The back and forth between the houses is annoying. We want to see strategy drama not dumb boring fake relationship shit. MTV/BMP is out of touch with what fans want and what makes the show successful. If I wasn’t waiting for the Rise of Roda, I’d probably have tuned out by now.
If you ask me, the kind of drama I prefer are based on the challenge itself like the competition, elimination votes like the upcoming one for Shane and Day, eliminations itself, the CT and Veronica cause their drama is based on the challenge (even though I'm not liking how he's treating her but still). The relationships, not so much cause that's why this show is dragging. It seems like that's what's they been mostly focused on when it really shouldn't.
If you ask me, the kind of drama I prefer are based on the challenge itself like the competition, elimination votes like the upcoming one for Shane and Day, eliminations itself, the CT and Veronica cause their drama is based on the challenge (even though I'm not liking how he's treating her but still). The relationships, not so much cause that's why this show is dragging. It seems like that's what's they been mostly focused on when it really shouldn't.
But like it or not, the relationship drama seems to be what is dictating the competition drama this season. No one is saying to themselves let's get one of the powerhouse teams out. It's "we hate Natalie so let's vote her in," "he/she is flirting too much with my ex lover so let's vote them in," "Bananas is a *******"
The redemption twist could have worked if they did better editing. You could have easily did that last Redemption Challenge and started a whole new challenge in one episode with a pretty interesting TBC with it but instead they just dragged it out. It’s all about editing and Survivor editing is better because you atleast know what you’re getting each episode. And it’s not like the eliminations are even interesting anymore so them dragging it out I don’t understand. And seeing what happens in the redemption house isn’t bad because it’s apart of the game but you show a few minutes and keep it moving. Anything more, put it online. No season should be longer than 14-15 episodes.
Still top 5 & for the exception of the Miz show (that went up) all shows went down:
http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-tuesday-cable-originals-network-finals-8-7-2018.html
& Still doing over average in the demographic networks care the must about.
I do agree that they are dragging it down and stretching storylines way to much
And its quite clear now that this whole "bringing people from other networks" idea is not bringing in the ratings like they thought. Keep the shows who've already appeared + Survivor but don't add anymore, especially random ones from overseas.
The first episodes of Invasion had around the same number (Even with getting lower in the target demographic) and like 2 or 3 episodes of dirty 30.
The first 3 episodes of Invasion with similar rating as this episode & having new ppl would disagree with you since it was around the same range.
I remember how after Invasion, MTV put sooo much (finally) effort into The Challenge and their favorite personalities, to have them be in the same range now as they had during the start of this push, should trigger something or somebody.
I hope they come to the conclusion that's its either the episode formula or cast storylines.
I understand you and daddy's point, but if the cast is made up of people that are long overdue for a break/retirement, same as the last 4 season basically, uninteresting and even forced, i wouldnt be interested in the slightest to watch them in any elimination round.
Its literally called the Challenge. For it to be going into week 6 with ONE REAL ELIMINATION alone says something. Bring the challenge back to the challenges and the drama for the real world.
Yeah. The Pacing and constant dragging out is really hurting this show now. And on top of that the storylines they're using to fill up so much time are just uniteresting and boring as ****. Like does anyone really give a shit about this Kyle/Cara ****? Both just need to do their own thing and leave each other alone, And I love Nelson and Kayleigh but thier whole storyline is just boring as shit. IMO if they're going to drag this shit out then the shows need to be filled to the brim with shit that's worth watching.
And also I think fatigue has something to do with this as well. I mean we've had Challenge, Spinoff, Challenge, spinoff back to back basically and there's no real break inbetween seasons. That really needs to stop honestly.
add to that a Shane/ Kyle beef over twitter chat and Angela spreading her fake *** legs for bananas. For real, who the **** wants to watch any of that? I like cara and Nelson but I'm bored as ****
They are so lazy they just use what cast beef over on twitter/ig for storylines.
This show sucks
I’m glad the viewers keep getting lower and lower. This season is completely TRASH. I’ve never been so irritated with a show in my life.
not even survivor? Idk it's a toss up between this and survivor for me. Survivor I'm confident will never change; the challenge idk why I had hope but this whole trilogy can eat a ****
Survivor is still decent though. I haven't even enjoyed watching any of these episodes. It's trash, nothing is happening. And the stuff that is happening, nobody gives a **** about.
Tbh I’m not tuning in til the final if I care enough to do so.
I just don’t care. I don’t hate the show, but...I’m apathetic If it continues
See you in next weeks episode thread.
Tori got too many confessionals last night. All 200,000 prob started the second the segment about her and Derrick started. Or 5 min after the way too long segment with Eore aka Brad.
It’s no reason why Britni & Chuck are still getting mentioned in an episode when they’ve been gone 2 episodes prior not to mention they’re dragging even more snooze fest storylines with Kayleigh and Nelson. They’re lazy with the editing but we all been knew this would happen and I’m glad the casuals are seeing it.
Never do a redemption twist again. Unless its like exes 2
I think they made a lot of fatal mistakes this season. The unbalanced pairing of teams makes it not exciting. The purges are annoying and dumb. The back and forth between the houses is annoying. We want to see strategy drama not dumb boring fake relationship shit. MTV/BMP is out of touch with what fans want and what makes the show successful. If I wasn’t waiting for the Rise of Roda, I’d probably have tuned out by now.
If you ask me, the kind of drama I prefer are based on the challenge itself like the competition, elimination votes like the upcoming one for Shane and Day, eliminations itself, the CT and Veronica cause their drama is based on the challenge (even though I'm not liking how he's treating her but still). The relationships, not so much cause that's why this show is dragging. It seems like that's what's they been mostly focused on when it really shouldn't.
But like it or not, the relationship drama seems to be what is dictating the competition drama this season. No one is saying to themselves let's get one of the powerhouse teams out. It's "we hate Natalie so let's vote her in," "he/she is flirting too much with my ex lover so let's vote them in," "Bananas is a *******"
The redemption twist could have worked if they did better editing. You could have easily did that last Redemption Challenge and started a whole new challenge in one episode with a pretty interesting TBC with it but instead they just dragged it out. It’s all about editing and Survivor editing is better because you atleast know what you’re getting each episode. And it’s not like the eliminations are even interesting anymore so them dragging it out I don’t understand. And seeing what happens in the redemption house isn’t bad because it’s apart of the game but you show a few minutes and keep it moving. Anything more, put it online. No season should be longer than 14-15 episodes.
The John/CT/Cara show really is tiring. And now Kyle and brad/Britni has worn out its welcome. This show truly ended since Exes 2.
***Battle of the Bloodlines
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