The Challenge: The Final Reckoning - Crazy Ex-Girlfriend

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100 rigged. the resistance bands were not the same and this male/female advantage shit is tiring. Imagine Ammo vs Emily S. & the female gets help.

Had Paulie & Natalie known about the equalizer they would have switched roles and given Paulie the puzzle, where he at the very least does better than Natalie. But looking back the best thing to do would have been to choose Joss & Sylvia since Joss wouldn't have been that big of a factor

Lol you are taking away the fact that Natalie was the main reason they lost that elimination on the puzzle part imo...

The main point: BMP doesn't know how to do mixed pairs properly .

FromTheNorth wrote:

Had Paulie & Natalie known about the equalizer they would have switched roles and given Paulie the puzzle, where he at the very least does better than Natalie. But looking back the best thing to do would have been to choose Joss & Sylvia since Joss wouldn't have been that big of a factor

Lol you are taking away the fact that Natalie was the main reason they lost that elimination on the puzzle part imo...

It doesn’t matter.. lol. Kayleigh had Kam helping her with the puzzle, from RIGHT in front of the cage. Who knows how much Paulie could’ve helped Natalie but she deserved it just like Kayleigh did.

There was a simple fix to give both competitors equal resistance and the producers didn't do that. It's as simple and unfair as that. And saying Paulie and Natalie should've switched, they shouldn't have had to because it should've been fair from the get-go. And maybe they didn't notice how unfair it was going to be before it started.

Kayleigh and Kam both got to do the puzzle, Paulie didn't get to because he wasn't against the cage. I don't care either way because neither is my favorite team, but there was nothing Paulie and Natalie could've done, it was rigged as **** lol. 

There was a simple fix to give both competitors equal resistance and the producers didn't do that. It's as simple and unfair as that. And saying Paulie and Natalie should've switched, they shouldn't have had to because it should've been fair from the get-go. And maybe they didn't notice how unfair it was going to be before it started.Kayleigh and Kam both got to do the puzzle, Paulie didn't get to because he wasn't against the cage. I don't care either way because neither is my favorite team, but there was nothing Paulie and Natalie could've done, it was rigged as **** lol. 

It could've been if they had picked another M/F team like one of the two out of three teams that voted for them, but instead they went with the sole F/F team.

Imagine if they actually went straight home how upset people would be...I don't care for Paulie & Natalie but I hate that Kam has another W that should have an asterisk next to it.

There was a simple fix to give both competitors equal resistance and the producers didn't do that. It's as simple and unfair as that. And saying Paulie and Natalie should've switched, they shouldn't have had to because it should've been fair from the get-go. And maybe they didn't notice how unfair it was going to be before it started.Kayleigh and Kam both got to do the puzzle, Paulie didn't get to because he wasn't against the cage. I don't care either way because neither is my favorite team, but there was nothing Paulie and Natalie could've done, it was rigged as **** lol. 

Some people can't seem to grasp this lol

Rigged is a strong word because it implies that they wanted one team to win. I’d put it more under production incompetence because they probably just bought some generic resistance bands for men and women. The actual sizes of the competitors was obviously not taken into account. Paulie and Zach would have had the same band even though one is much larger than the other, which isn’t fair either.

I liked the episode overall. I’d like less of the cara/Kyle nonsense but that’s my only complaint. It should be exciting to watch how the voting impacts everyone’s game.

Morris1721 wrote:

There was a simple fix to give both competitors equal resistance and the producers didn't do that. It's as simple and unfair as that. And saying Paulie and Natalie should've switched, they shouldn't have had to because it should've been fair from the get-go. And maybe they didn't notice how unfair it was going to be before it started.Kayleigh and Kam both got to do the puzzle, Paulie didn't get to because he wasn't against the cage. I don't care either way because neither is my favorite team, but there was nothing Paulie and Natalie could've done, it was rigged as **** lol. 

It could've been if they had picked another M/F team like one of the two out of three teams that voted for them, but instead they went with the sole F/F team.

Why should they be expected to choose a M/F team to earn a fair shot? That's ridiculous lol. Simple trial and error could've given Kam and Paulie equal resistance for their weight but the producers screwed one of them over. And again, not saying it's the reason they lost.. but Kam and Kayleigh had an advtange and had two people doing the puzzle.

Rigged is a strong word because it implies that they wanted one team to win. I’d put it more under production incompetence because they probably just bought some generic resistance bands for men and women. The actual sizes of the competitors was obviously not taken into account. Paulie and Zach would have had the same band even though one is much larger than the other, which isn’t fair either.I liked the episode overall. I’d like less of the cara/Kyle nonsense but that’s my only complaint. It should be exciting to watch how the voting impacts everyone’s game.

You’re actually right. Even though Kam has become a production favorite, it was probably more due to stupidity.

Natalie just tweeted that Paulie wanted them to pick a M/F but she was adamant about picking Kam/Kayleigh and he deferred to her.

Floptalie!!

BIANCA wrote:

Morris1721 wrote:There was a simple fix to give both competitors equal resistance and the producers didn't do that. It's as simple and unfair as that. And saying Paulie and Natalie should've switched, they shouldn't have had to because it should've been fair from the get-go. And maybe they didn't notice how unfair it was going to be before it started.Kayleigh and Kam both got to do the puzzle, Paulie didn't get to because he wasn't against the cage. I don't care either way because neither is my favorite team, but there was nothing Paulie and Natalie could've done, it was rigged as **** lol. 

It could've been if they had picked another M/F team like one of the two out of three teams that voted for them, but instead they went with the sole F/F team.

Why should they be expected to choose a M/F team to earn a fair shot? That's ridiculous lol. Simple trial and error could've given Kam and Paulie equal resistance for their weight but the producers screwed one of them over. And again, not saying it's the reason they lost.. but Kam and Kayleigh had an advtange and had two people doing the puzzle.

Two M/F teams going against each other is more fair since there doesn't need to be an equalizer like there does when they go against a team of the same gender (unless they chose different gender people grabbing the pices which in that case is imo still whatever teams fault for having to deal with an equalizer that could have been avoided idc). They didn't really have two people doing the puzzle. Kam had a better view sure, but it's not like she was in there moving the pieces with Kayleigh. Paulie could have still yelled directions at Natalie but he didn't.

Honestly tho, it isn't even that deep since Paulie & Natalie still have a chance to get back in the house. 

Natalie just tweeted that Paulie wanted them to pick a M/F but she was adamant about picking Kam/Kayleigh and he deferred to her.Floptalie!!

Nah that's just Paulie's ego he would have got his *** kicked by Zach & Amanda too and possibly Joss & Sylvia if she can do puzzles

everyone mad that it was rigged and rightfully so, be mad that production set up the teams this way which as a result will lead to rigging.

Exactly. This is why this kind of format shouldn't be a thing. It's a Catch 22: Either you make things like the resistence bands equal for everyone and pretend like men aren't physical stronger/faster than women, or you try and do an equalizer that puts the guys at a larger disadvantage, but that is tough to measure exactly and can end up making it the opposite: so women now actually have the advantage over men. You can't really find a balance with these things and they should've learned this from Bloodlines.

Rigged is a strong word because it implies that they wanted one team to win. I’d put it more under production incompetence because they probably just bought some generic resistance bands for men and women. The actual sizes of the competitors was obviously not taken into account. Paulie and Zach would have had the same band even though one is much larger than the other, which isn’t fair either.I liked the episode overall. I’d like less of the cara/Kyle nonsense but that’s my only complaint. It should be exciting to watch how the voting impacts everyone’s game.

Agreed. I think production has rigged shit before, but I think if they had their choice they'd want Paulie/Natalie to stay actually. Paulie is with Cara kinda and is stirring up drama, Natalie is a drama magnet, they def didn't want to see them go soon.

Meep wrote:

Rigged is a strong word because it implies that they wanted one team to win. I’d put it more under production incompetence because they probably just bought some generic resistance bands for men and women. The actual sizes of the competitors was obviously not taken into account. Paulie and Zach would have had the same band even though one is much larger than the other, which isn’t fair either.I liked the episode overall. I’d like less of the cara/Kyle nonsense but that’s my only complaint. It should be exciting to watch how the voting impacts everyone’s game.

Agreed. I think production has rigged shit before, but I think if they had their choice they'd want Paulie/Natalie to stay actually. Paulie is with Cara kinda and is stirring up drama, Natalie is a drama magnet, they def didn't want to see them go soon.

I had the same thought. Paulie and Natalie have been on display heavily the first few episodes, and their drama remains unresolved. 

This is 100% just laziness on production's part. Those bands are not that expensive. They could've easily tested this out on an average guy and average girl and got it at least a little bit closer to fair.

I don't think it would've changed the outcome tbh, but moving forward I hope we don't run into those same problems.

Honestly when it comes down to it, it all depends on Natalie and Kayleigh getting the puzzle done to take the W. Despite Paulie’s disadvantage, he actually got done giving Natalie the puzzle pieces. And according to Sylvia, she done basically flopped.

Kamleigh won! PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD...PERIOD *city girls voice*

Ugh I hope the rest of the eliminations aren’t going to be unfair otherwise all of the wins are going to be cheap and very unsatisfying.

Cara Maria was pretty shitty to tell Tori and Natalie what Marie said when she agreed to not tell anyone.

Cara Maria was pretty shitty to tell Tori and Natalie what Marie said when she agreed to not tell anyone.

Not shitty just stupid, she basically said 'hey Tori my teamate wants to vote you in' which has no benefit whatsoever

**** why would production rig for Kam when she's always performed better than Tori yet the latter gets the rOoKiE oF ThE yEaR edit. it's clear who are the actual production favorites. If Kam didnt perform in her eliminations the editors would just shove in more of Toris corny jokes. Theyre also exagerrating at Kayleigh "outting" Natalie her sexuality has been questioned since her season of big brother.

“LOL SHE’S A LESBIAN” literally sends me everytime and I feel bad for laughing lmaooo

“LOL SHE’S A LESBIAN” literally sends me everytime and I feel bad for laughing lmaooo

**** why would production rig for Kam when she's always performed better than Tori yet the latter gets the rOoKiE oF ThE yEaR edit. it's clear who are the actual production favorites. If Kam didnt perform in her eliminations the editors would just shove in more of Toris corny jokes. Theyre also exagerrating at Kayleigh "outting" Natalie her sexuality has been questioned since her season of big brother.

Kam is just as much of a production favourite as Tori, neither will ever win a non team season but are both edited like they're elite

Lol, people can't seem to define the meaning of the the word, rig. Rig is how production tried to do for Natalie to win last season against Kam which those complaining about for tonight's elimination were mute regarding that. 

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Love Lies cover by Tori & Jordan

Talk about destroying a song Sad

This is a prime example of gentrifying music.

Omg... why does every single bad singer put on this specific weird hippie accent

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