Who do y'all consider second tier? Camila, Rachel, Sarah, CM?
The people who would be a favourite to win on a season without Ev, Emily & Laurel. I'd say those 4 plus Jenny fit into that category. Despite being the biggest threat in a final last season Theresa doesn't have the elimination record or political game to be among them.
I think people are giving her mini-final performance slightly too much weight. The only reason she and Ashley got ahead was because of the puzzle, not because they outran people. Which good for Theresa but there were other good puzzle people who timed out (including Kam, CT, and Devin). Puzzles can slow down even the best depending on if they're having a good or bad day. That being said, I do think Theresa is a finals threat but she could easily crack under pressure. Even during the BOTE 2 final, there were times Leroy had to push her and get her to stop crying; and she struggled on the mountain portion just as much as him. But as others said, Theresa's social game and lack of elimination wins will always prevent her from even getting to another final. The one she made was a complete fluke thanks to Nia being DQed and Nany being.... Nany
Yall overrate laurel so much. She only won once! You would think her 6 foot *** would have won way more with the way yall talk about how shes so damn elite.
Yall overrate laurel so much. She only won once! You would think her 6 foot *** would have won way more with the way yall talk about how shes so damn elite.
even pre free agents she was a monster. She also managed to bring the full package in that she was always elite athelically but also would bring drama one way or another.
Yall overrate laurel so much. She only won once! You would think her 6 foot *** would have won way more with the way yall talk about how shes so damn elite.
I mean she has only done 6 seasons so you can't really compare her number of wins to other people
She made 4 finals, and on the two times she didn't make the final she got eliminated by another strong player (and there are rumors she threw it) and then she got eliminated wrongfully on a technicality. If she was on the same number of seasons as people like Cara she would have way more wins
Yall overrate laurel so much. She only won once! You would think her 6 foot *** would have won way more with the way yall talk about how shes so damn elite.
even pre free agents she was a monster. She also managed to bring the full package in that she was always elite athelically but also would bring drama one way or another.
Emily also only won once so what you tryna say?
emily has only been on 3 seasons laurels been on 6...
Laurel's resume is amazing. She's 9-2 in eliminations. She made 4 straight finals. Lost to the great final runner ever (Landon), lost to a team of 3 guys that carried Tori, lost to Ev/Paula and at that point Paula >>>>>>>>> Cara and then lost two eliminations. Love or hate Laurel she's top 3 women ever in terms of competition. Her biggest issue was not always listening to rules (see Rivals and her last elimination)
Yall overrate laurel so much. She only won once! You would think her 6 foot *** would have won way more with the way yall talk about how shes so damn elite.
even pre free agents she was a monster. She also managed to bring the full package in that she was always elite athelically but also would bring drama one way or another.
Emily also only won once so what you tryna say?
emily has only been on 3 seasons laurels been on 6...
wow what a comeback lmao. You got me bro.
laurel is in the elite tier and the fact is, just about everyone can agree w this despite their personal feelings toward her. Good elim record, made finals countless times and still won one.
to be elite, winning finals and being in multiple finals gets you in that tier (along with other individual performances.) Theresa isn't even in the elite conversation.
1st (likely to win if those 3^ aren't on) Rachel, CM, Camila, Sarah, Jenny, couch
2nd (can win but has some flaws holding them back) KellyAnne, Theresa, Kam etc
3rd (long shot to win but still possible): Kailah, Jenna, etc
4th (not going to win but still has some strengths): Nany, Aneesa, etc
5th: (never going to win and sucks overall): shauvon, katelynn, etc
so DAF isn't wrong
this is a good list and I'd put Ashley in tier 2
I would say she's tier 1 since she has two final wins vs 0 from any of those girls and she would beat them all in a final, Kam may be a little better than her in eliminations but the others aren't
1st (likely to win if those 3^ aren't on) Rachel, CM, Camila, Sarah, Jenny, couch
2nd (can win but has some flaws holding them back) KellyAnne, Theresa, Kam etc
3rd (long shot to win but still possible): Kailah, Jenna, etc
4th (not going to win but still has some strengths): Nany, Aneesa, etc
5th: (never going to win and sucks overall): shauvon, katelynn, etc
so DAF isn't wrong
this is a good list and I'd put Ashley in tier 2
ashley is tough because obviously her political/Elim game holds her back but she's also a better final runner than pretty much anyone in tier 1. I'd put her in tier 1 just for her ability to perform in finals
1st (likely to win if those 3^ aren't on) Rachel, CM, Camila, Sarah, Jenny, couch
2nd (can win but has some flaws holding them back) KellyAnne, Theresa, Kam etc
3rd (long shot to win but still possible): Kailah, Jenna, etc
4th (not going to win but still has some strengths): Nany, Aneesa, etc
5th: (never going to win and sucks overall): shauvon, katelynn, etc
so DAF isn't wrong
this is a good list and I'd put Ashley in tier 2
I would say she's tier 1 since she has two final wins vs 0 from any of those girls and she would beat them all in a final, Kam may be a little better than her in eliminations but the others aren't
I take it back I thought people were saying Ashley was elite tier which is comical.
What I want to know is do you guys think if, say, they sent Nia AND Leroy home, brought back Theresa and Wes and those two end up in the Exes 2 final, does she get that win with Wes? Will they be a stronger finals team than Jordan and Sarah? Jordan even says in his argument with Wes that Theresa is the only girl who can outrun Sarah.
What I want to know is do you guys think if, say, they sent Nia AND Leroy home, brought back Theresa and Wes and those two end up in the Exes 2 final, does she get that win with Wes? Will they be a stronger finals team than Jordan and Sarah? Jordan even says in his argument with Wes that Theresa is the only girl who can outrun Sarah.
Hmmm. That's a good question. It would have at least been very close. I'm saying Sarah still wins but it could go either way.
John might beat Wes in pole wrestle so maybe though so it might have been a John/Nany final if the guys are the tiebreaker in the final elimination
1st (likely to win if those 3^ aren't on) Rachel, CM, Camila, Sarah, Jenny, couch
2nd (can win but has some flaws holding them back) KellyAnne, Theresa, Kam etc
3rd (long shot to win but still possible): Kailah, Jenna, etc
4th (not going to win but still has some strengths): Nany, Aneesa, etc
5th: (never going to win and sucks overall): shauvon, katelynn, etc
so DAF isn't wrong
I don't think Laurel, Emily and Ev are untouchable, especially by most of the people listed in the 1st tier. I'm biased towards her because she's my all time fav but Rachel would def give them all a run for their money with the kind of shape she is in, Jenny too. CM & Sarah at their strongest isn't anyone ot bat an eye at either.
Theresa is def 2nd tier, she isn't in the top but she could easily win a final depending on who was there and how the season was set up. She's a dangerous player to people like Kam during DA because Theresa isn't afraid to try to shake up the house, which usually bites her in the butt but still lol.
Yall overrate emily so much. She only won once! You would think her 6 foot *** would have won way more with the way yall talk about how shes so damn elite.
2nd tier???? She's 3rd tier at best maybe 4th as a competitor.
The 4th tier is Nany, Jonna, Kailah, Tori D etc. Theresa is better than those names.
She's first tier entertainment but probably third teir competitively I bet she could win for sure tho, I miss this queen
Double post, Queen
Who do y'all consider second tier? Camila, Rachel, Sarah, CM?
The people who would be a favourite to win on a season without Ev, Emily & Laurel. I'd say those 4 plus Jenny fit into that category. Despite being the biggest threat in a final last season Theresa doesn't have the elimination record or political game to be among them.
I think people are giving her mini-final performance slightly too much weight. The only reason she and Ashley got ahead was because of the puzzle, not because they outran people. Which good for Theresa but there were other good puzzle people who timed out (including Kam, CT, and Devin). Puzzles can slow down even the best depending on if they're having a good or bad day. That being said, I do think Theresa is a finals threat but she could easily crack under pressure. Even during the BOTE 2 final, there were times Leroy had to push her and get her to stop crying; and she struggled on the mountain portion just as much as him. But as others said, Theresa's social game and lack of elimination wins will always prevent her from even getting to another final. The one she made was a complete fluke thanks to Nia being DQed and Nany being.... Nany
If we're really splitting hairs it's be like:
elite: Laurel, Emily, ev
1st (likely to win if those 3^ aren't on) Rachel, CM, Camila, Sarah, Jenny, couch
2nd (can win but has some flaws holding them back) KellyAnne, Theresa, Kam etc
3rd (long shot to win but still possible): Kailah, Jenna, etc
4th (not going to win but still has some strengths): Nany, Aneesa, etc
5th: (never going to win and sucks overall): shauvon, katelynn, etc
so DAF isn't wrong
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Yall overrate laurel so much. She only won once! You would think her 6 foot *** would have won way more with the way yall talk about how shes so damn elite.
even pre free agents she was a monster. She also managed to bring the full package in that she was always elite athelically but also would bring drama one way or another.
Emily also only won once so what you tryna say?
I mean she has only done 6 seasons so you can't really compare her number of wins to other people
She made 4 finals, and on the two times she didn't make the final she got eliminated by another strong player (and there are rumors she threw it) and then she got eliminated wrongfully on a technicality. If she was on the same number of seasons as people like Cara she would have way more wins
emily has only been on 3 seasons laurels been on 6...
Laurel's resume is amazing. She's 9-2 in eliminations. She made 4 straight finals. Lost to the great final runner ever (Landon), lost to a team of 3 guys that carried Tori, lost to Ev/Paula and at that point Paula >>>>>>>>> Cara and then lost two eliminations. Love or hate Laurel she's top 3 women ever in terms of competition. Her biggest issue was not always listening to rules (see Rivals and her last elimination)
wow what a comeback lmao. You got me bro.
laurel is in the elite tier and the fact is, just about everyone can agree w this despite their personal feelings toward her. Good elim record, made finals countless times and still won one.
to be elite, winning finals and being in multiple finals gets you in that tier (along with other individual performances.) Theresa isn't even in the elite conversation.
this is a good list and I'd put Ashley in tier 2
I would say she's tier 1 since she has two final wins vs 0 from any of those girls and she would beat them all in a final, Kam may be a little better than her in eliminations but the others aren't
anyways laurel sucks. Amber and ashley hands down beats big foot if they in the final with her *giggles*
ashley is tough because obviously her political/Elim game holds her back but she's also a better final runner than pretty much anyone in tier 1. I'd put her in tier 1 just for her ability to perform in finals
lol. Ah you are a redditor makes sense
id put KA with Kailah and Jenna category
Theresa can beat laurel in a final
I take it back I thought people were saying Ashley was elite tier which is comical.
Her return was everything. The only entertaining ***** during Double Agents
What I want to know is do you guys think if, say, they sent Nia AND Leroy home, brought back Theresa and Wes and those two end up in the Exes 2 final, does she get that win with Wes? Will they be a stronger finals team than Jordan and Sarah? Jordan even says in his argument with Wes that Theresa is the only girl who can outrun Sarah.
Hmmm. That's a good question. It would have at least been very close. I'm saying Sarah still wins but it could go either way.
John might beat Wes in pole wrestle so maybe though so it might have been a John/Nany final if the guys are the tiebreaker in the final elimination
I don't think Laurel, Emily and Ev are untouchable, especially by most of the people listed in the 1st tier. I'm biased towards her because she's my all time fav but Rachel would def give them all a run for their money with the kind of shape she is in, Jenny too. CM & Sarah at their strongest isn't anyone ot bat an eye at either.
Theresa is def 2nd tier, she isn't in the top but she could easily win a final depending on who was there and how the season was set up. She's a dangerous player to people like Kam during DA because Theresa isn't afraid to try to shake up the house, which usually bites her in the butt but still lol.
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