The Challenge: Dirty 30 (Spoilers discussion)

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Jordan isn't remotely intelligent.  Darrell's endurance destroys his.  Re-watch Free Agents and his constant **** ups.    He's lucky Sarah ignored him or he wouldn't even have a win.

hardbitten wrote:

lol at Jordan making finals with this cast.

We dont know the format and twists....

I suppose so lol

If New-Old-AYTO...I see Jordan being the Abram of the New School team.  He'll get his free ride as long as they don't lose as often as they could on paper.

Jordan isn't remotely intelligent.  Darrell's endurance destroys his.  Re-watch Free Agents and his constant **** ups.    He's lucky Sarah ignored him or he wouldn't even have a win.

He is very intelligent. Free agents was his worst performance athletically, but he was running the show politically. His move to flip the cards was stupid but he ran the house that season which is a clear sign of intelligence.

He also performed great on Rivals 2 and Exes 2 and he has performed great in eliminations.

Darrell is better than Jordan but like I said, if Jordan pulls out a win, that will put him in the elite class. Right now he is borderline elite

Graphik wrote:

Lol @ Jordan going through The Kang, CT or even Leroy in any capacity.

For a final I would take Jordan over the others 3

Same, I think Jordan is incredibly well rounded. I would never take Leroy, I find him incredibly average as a competitor. CT and Darrell are super strong competitors but I think Jordan is the complete package for a final.

I mean I don't want to bring it up, but Jordan has only one hand. There has been a lot of challenges where it was clear how much of a disadvantage that is and something that can drastically slow you down, especially later ones. If I had the opportunity to choose between Darrell, CT and Jordan. I'd take Darrell and CT over him any time. Plus Jordan is known to get frustrated easily if his partner doesn't perform good whereas CT and Darrell are much more chill in that regard and Sarah/Jordan were lucky that Exes 2 final was one of the easier ones and they had really no competition at that final IMO. Considering his struggles as he will always have a big disadvantage by basically performing anything with just one hand, he performed well on Rivals 2 and Exes 2 and impressive in some challenges overall, but I see no good argument in taking him over Darrell and CT for a final. (He isn't that good in puzzles)It sounds so wrong for me to say this, but Jordan can't be well rounded if he has this big disadvantage of basically performing with only one hand.

PinkRose wrote:

Graphik wrote:Lol @ Jordan going through The Kang, CT or even Leroy in any capacity.

For a final I would take Jordan over the others 3

Same, I think Jordan is incredibly well rounded. I would never take Leroy, I find him incredibly average as a competitor. CT and Darrell are super strong competitors but I think Jordan is the complete package for a final.

Yeah, Leroy is not a good competitor. He is a terrible swimmer, he has no political influence, he never wins daily challenges etc. He has strength and muscles and that's it. 

Jordan is built for a final

I mean I don't want to bring it up, but Jordan has only one hand. There has been a lot of challenges where it was clear how much of a disadvantage that is and something that can drastically slow you down, especially later ones. If I had the opportunity to choose between Darrell, CT and Jordan. I'd take Darrell and CT over him any time. Plus Jordan is known to get frustrated easily if his partner doesn't perform good whereas CT and Darrell are much more chill in that regard and Sarah/Jordan were lucky that Exes 2 final was one of the easier ones and they had really no competition at that final IMO. Considering his struggles as he will always have a big disadvantage by basically performing anything with just one hand, he performed well on Rivals 2 and Exes 2 and impressive in some challenges overall, but I see no good argument in taking him over Darrell and CT for a final. (He isn't that good in puzzles)

CT is great but in a final I would take Darrell, Bananas and Jordan over him

kvm1977 wrote:

Jordan isn't remotely intelligent.  Darrell's endurance destroys his.  Re-watch Free Agents and his constant **** ups.    He's lucky Sarah ignored him or he wouldn't even have a win.

He is very intelligent. Free agents was his worst performance athletically, but he was running the show politically. His move to flip the cards was stupid but he ran the house that season which is a clear sign of intelligence.He also performed great on Rivals 2 and Exes 2 and he has performed great in eliminations.Darrell is better than Jordan but like I said, if Jordan pulls out a win, that will put him in the elite class. Right now he is borderline elite

LOL @ Jordan running the house on Free Agents...he was a puppet for Zach & CT.  He didn't perform great on Rivals 2 or Exes 2.  What is his great elimination win?   Darrell is infinitely better than Jordan.  Jordan isn't close to elite.  He's solid when his ego doesn't get the best of him.  There is absolutely no way I'd want him as a partner over Darrell, CT, Derrick, Bananas or even Cory.  He'on par with Leroy which is good but not elite.  You're overselling him.  And he's not intelligent in any way. 

CCC318 wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:Jordan isn't remotely intelligent.  Darrell's endurance destroys his.  Re-watch Free Agents and his constant **** ups.    He's lucky Sarah ignored him or he wouldn't even have a win.

He is very intelligent. Free agents was his worst performance athletically, but he was running the show politically. His move to flip the cards was stupid but he ran the house that season which is a clear sign of intelligence.He also performed great on Rivals 2 and Exes 2 and he has performed great in eliminations.Darrell is better than Jordan but like I said, if Jordan pulls out a win, that will put him in the elite class. Right now he is borderline elite

LOL @ Jordan running the house on Free Agents...he was a puppet for Zach & CT.  He didn't perform great on Rivals 2 or Exes 2.  What is his great elimination win?   Darrell is infinitely better than Jordan.  Jordan isn't close to elite.  He's solid when his ego doesn't get the best of him.  There is absolutely no way I'd want him as a partner over Darrell, CT, Derrick, Bananas or even Cory.  He'on par with Leroy which is good but not elite.  You're overselling him.  And he's not intelligent in any way. 

Good luck with that. 

kvm1977 wrote:

CCC318 wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:Jordan isn't remotely intelligent.  Darrell's endurance destroys his.  Re-watch Free Agents and his constant **** ups.    He's lucky Sarah ignored him or he wouldn't even have a win.

He is very intelligent. Free agents was his worst performance athletically, but he was running the show politically. His move to flip the cards was stupid but he ran the house that season which is a clear sign of intelligence.He also performed great on Rivals 2 and Exes 2 and he has performed great in eliminations.Darrell is better than Jordan but like I said, if Jordan pulls out a win, that will put him in the elite class. Right now he is borderline elite

LOL @ Jordan running the house on Free Agents...he was a puppet for Zach & CT.  He didn't perform great on Rivals 2 or Exes 2.  What is his great elimination win?   Darrell is infinitely better than Jordan.  Jordan isn't close to elite.  He's solid when his ego doesn't get the best of him.  There is absolutely no way I'd want him as a partner over Darrell, CT, Derrick, Bananas or even Cory.  He'on par with Leroy which is good but not elite.  You're overselling him.  And he's not intelligent in any way. 

Good luck with that. 

Yeah, Cory's knee is a problem but I think it would be easier to keep him under control than having to worry about Jordan doing something stupid

KChallenge10 wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

CCC318 wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:Jordan isn't remotely intelligent.  Darrell's endurance destroys his.  Re-watch Free Agents and his constant **** ups.    He's lucky Sarah ignored him or he wouldn't even have a win.

He is very intelligent. Free agents was his worst performance athletically, but he was running the show politically. His move to flip the cards was stupid but he ran the house that season which is a clear sign of intelligence.He also performed great on Rivals 2 and Exes 2 and he has performed great in eliminations.Darrell is better than Jordan but like I said, if Jordan pulls out a win, that will put him in the elite class. Right now he is borderline elite

LOL @ Jordan running the house on Free Agents...he was a puppet for Zach & CT.  He didn't perform great on Rivals 2 or Exes 2.  What is his great elimination win?   Darrell is infinitely better than Jordan.  Jordan isn't close to elite.  He's solid when his ego doesn't get the best of him.  There is absolutely no way I'd want him as a partner over Darrell, CT, Derrick, Bananas or even Cory.  He'on par with Leroy which is good but not elite.  You're overselling him.  And he's not intelligent in any way. 

Good luck with that. 

Yeah, Cory's knee is a problem but I think it would be easier to keep him under control than having to worry about Jordan doing something stupid

In a final I would probably take Jordan over all those names you mentioned. Darrell can't swim right? CT's endurance is questionable. Derrick is not bright. Bananas is well rounded but don't think he'd be as good as Jordan. Jordan's biggest weakness is his size and his ego. 

In b4 one of Jordan/Darrell and CT is eliminated next lol

kvm1977 wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
CCC318 wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:Jordan isn't remotely intelligent.  Darrell's endurance destroys his.  Re-watch Free Agents and his constant **** ups.    He's lucky Sarah ignored him or he wouldn't even have a win.

He is very intelligent. Free agents was his worst performance athletically, but he was running the show politically. His move to flip the cards was stupid but he ran the house that season which is a clear sign of intelligence.He also performed great on Rivals 2 and Exes 2 and he has performed great in eliminations.Darrell is better than Jordan but like I said, if Jordan pulls out a win, that will put him in the elite class. Right now he is borderline elite

LOL @ Jordan running the house on Free Agents...he was a puppet for Zach & CT.  He didn't perform great on Rivals 2 or Exes 2.  What is his great elimination win?   Darrell is infinitely better than Jordan.  Jordan isn't close to elite.  He's solid when his ego doesn't get the best of him.  There is absolutely no way I'd want him as a partner over Darrell, CT, Derrick, Bananas or even Cory.  He'on par with Leroy which is good but not elite.  You're overselling him.  And he's not intelligent in any way. 

Good luck with that. 

Yeah, Cory's knee is a problem but I think it would be easier to keep him under control than having to worry about Jordan doing something stupid

In a final I would probably take Jordan over all those names you mentioned. Darrell can't swim right? CT's endurance is questionable. Derrick is not bright. Bananas is well rounded but don't think he'd be as good as Jordan. Jordan's biggest weakness is his size and his ego. 

Darrell is pretty good at swimming, but both Jordan and Darrell are pretty useless when it comes to puzzles.Recent pics and appearances of CT appear to indicate that he is back to being much slimmer than before Invasion.

kvm1977 wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
CCC318 wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:Jordan isn't remotely intelligent.  Darrell's endurance destroys his.  Re-watch Free Agents and his constant **** ups.    He's lucky Sarah ignored him or he wouldn't even have a win.

He is very intelligent. Free agents was his worst performance athletically, but he was running the show politically. His move to flip the cards was stupid but he ran the house that season which is a clear sign of intelligence.He also performed great on Rivals 2 and Exes 2 and he has performed great in eliminations.Darrell is better than Jordan but like I said, if Jordan pulls out a win, that will put him in the elite class. Right now he is borderline elite

LOL @ Jordan running the house on Free Agents...he was a puppet for Zach & CT.  He didn't perform great on Rivals 2 or Exes 2.  What is his great elimination win?   Darrell is infinitely better than Jordan.  Jordan isn't close to elite.  He's solid when his ego doesn't get the best of him.  There is absolutely no way I'd want him as a partner over Darrell, CT, Derrick, Bananas or even Cory.  He'on par with Leroy which is good but not elite.  You're overselling him.  And he's not intelligent in any way. 

Good luck with that. 

Yeah, Cory's knee is a problem but I think it would be easier to keep him under control than having to worry about Jordan doing something stupid

In a final I would probably take Jordan over all those names you mentioned. Darrell can't swim right? CT's endurance is questionable. Derrick is not bright. Bananas is well rounded but don't think he'd be as good as Jordan. Jordan's biggest weakness is his size and his ego. 

Rewatch the Gauntlet if you don't think Darrell can't swim....

Johnnny who I hate >>>>>>>>>> Jordan

Derrick 's an idiot but I got the puzzles

The truth is only CT & Johnny are good at puzzles of the 5

CCC318 wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:Jordan isn't remotely intelligent.  Darrell's endurance destroys his.  Re-watch Free Agents and his constant **** ups.    He's lucky Sarah ignored him or he wouldn't even have a win.

He is very intelligent. Free agents was his worst performance athletically, but he was running the show politically. His move to flip the cards was stupid but he ran the house that season which is a clear sign of intelligence.He also performed great on Rivals 2 and Exes 2 and he has performed great in eliminations.Darrell is better than Jordan but like I said, if Jordan pulls out a win, that will put him in the elite class. Right now he is borderline elite

LOL @ Jordan running the house on Free Agents...he was a puppet for Zach & CT.  He didn't perform great on Rivals 2 or Exes 2.  What is his great elimination win?   Darrell is infinitely better than Jordan.  Jordan isn't close to elite.  He's solid when his ego doesn't get the best of him.  There is absolutely no way I'd want him as a partner over Darrell, CT, Derrick, Bananas or even Cory.  He'on par with Leroy which is good but not elite.  You're overselling him.  And he's not intelligent in any way. 

A lot of what you said is incorrect but we can agree to disagree. But when Jordan wins this challenge, I'll be sure to give you a reminder haha 

kvm1977 wrote:

CCC318 wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:Jordan isn't remotely intelligent.  Darrell's endurance destroys his.  Re-watch Free Agents and his constant **** ups.    He's lucky Sarah ignored him or he wouldn't even have a win.

He is very intelligent. Free agents was his worst performance athletically, but he was running the show politically. His move to flip the cards was stupid but he ran the house that season which is a clear sign of intelligence.He also performed great on Rivals 2 and Exes 2 and he has performed great in eliminations.Darrell is better than Jordan but like I said, if Jordan pulls out a win, that will put him in the elite class. Right now he is borderline elite

LOL @ Jordan running the house on Free Agents...he was a puppet for Zach & CT.  He didn't perform great on Rivals 2 or Exes 2.  What is his great elimination win?   Darrell is infinitely better than Jordan.  Jordan isn't close to elite.  He's solid when his ego doesn't get the best of him.  There is absolutely no way I'd want him as a partner over Darrell, CT, Derrick, Bananas or even Cory.  He'on par with Leroy which is good but not elite.  You're overselling him.  And he's not intelligent in any way. 

A lot of what you said is incorrect but we can agree to disagree. But when Jordan wins this challenge, I'll be sure to give you a reminder haha 

Nothing I said was incorrect

Jordan's only head to head win is Swift.  He doesn't have Sarah to hold his hand this time.  We'll seee how he does

I don't believe someone is just great at puzzles and others are awful. It all depends on the puzzle and how your brain reacts. Sarah is a huge puzzle fan and we have seen her get stumped, and the same goes for CT. 

How can anyone say that Jordan is almost elite when he isn't even the best of the new generation men?  I would take Frank over him any day of the week.  But even Frank isn't elite, which just goes to show how slim pickings are.

He demolished Zach in the sledgehammer elimination. 

He demolished Zach in the sledgehammer elimination. 

He demolished Zach in the sledgehammer elimination. 

Partner elimination--not individual and Zach isn't elite

How can anyone say that Jordan is almost elite when he isn't even the best of the new generation men?  I would take Frank over him any day of the week.  But even Frank isn't elite, which just goes to show how slim pickings are.

Frank and Jordan are on the same level and they are both amazing well rounded competitors. It took CT 9 seasons to win a challenge and it was with Wes, so I don't understand why people are writing off Jordan and praising CT 

He demolished Zach in the sledgehammer elimination. 

Good for him, he beat a complete idiot.  That reflects more poorly on Zach than it does anything to highlight Jordan.

KChallenge10 wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
CCC318 wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:Jordan isn't remotely intelligent.  Darrell's endurance destroys his.  Re-watch Free Agents and his constant **** ups.    He's lucky Sarah ignored him or he wouldn't even have a win.

He is very intelligent. Free agents was his worst performance athletically, but he was running the show politically. His move to flip the cards was stupid but he ran the house that season which is a clear sign of intelligence.He also performed great on Rivals 2 and Exes 2 and he has performed great in eliminations.Darrell is better than Jordan but like I said, if Jordan pulls out a win, that will put him in the elite class. Right now he is borderline elite

LOL @ Jordan running the house on Free Agents...he was a puppet for Zach & CT.  He didn't perform great on Rivals 2 or Exes 2.  What is his great elimination win?   Darrell is infinitely better than Jordan.  Jordan isn't close to elite.  He's solid when his ego doesn't get the best of him.  There is absolutely no way I'd want him as a partner over Darrell, CT, Derrick, Bananas or even Cory.  He'on par with Leroy which is good but not elite.  You're overselling him.  And he's not intelligent in any way. 

Good luck with that. 

Yeah, Cory's knee is a problem but I think it would be easier to keep him under control than having to worry about Jordan doing something stupid

In a final I would probably take Jordan over all those names you mentioned. Darrell can't swim right? CT's endurance is questionable. Derrick is not bright. Bananas is well rounded but don't think he'd be as good as Jordan. Jordan's biggest weakness is his size and his ego. 

Rewatch the Gauntlet if you don't think Darrell can't swim....Johnnny who I hate >>>>>>>>>> JordanDerrick 's an idiot but I got the puzzlesThe truth is only CT & Johnny are good at puzzles of the 5

Darrell can swim but doesn't like heights and is not good at puzzles. Derrick as u said is an idiot when it comes to puzzle or trivia (watch Inferno 3). CT lacks endurance, and Johnny is know to be all-round player. For Jordan don't know what is worse, lacking 1 hand or his huge ego.

CCC318 wrote:

He demolished Zach in the sledgehammer elimination. 

Partner elimination--not individual and Zach isn't elite

It doesn't matter that it was a partner elimination. The first leg of the elimination was Jordan vs Zach and he destroyed him and Sarah finished against Jonna.

Zach isn't elite but an elimination like that is built for him. Using a sledgehammer and bashing it into an object. 

lilabennet wrote:

How can anyone say that Jordan is almost elite when he isn't even the best of the new generation men?  I would take Frank over him any day of the week.  But even Frank isn't elite, which just goes to show how slim pickings are.

Frank and Jordan are on the same level and they are both amazing well rounded competitors. It took CT 9 seasons to win a challenge and it was with Wes, so I don't understand why people are writing off Jordan and praising CT 

I hate when people say stuff like "it took blah blah this many seasons to blah blah". The challenges have developed and evolved over time, it's a completely new game now than it was years ago. Some people have had easier paths to victory, different casts, certain partners, it all depends. Doesn't matter how many seasons a person does when the people you're comparing them to haven't done the same challenges.

kvm1977 wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
KChallenge10 wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
CCC318 wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:Jordan isn't remotely intelligent.  Darrell's endurance destroys his.  Re-watch Free Agents and his constant **** ups.    He's lucky Sarah ignored him or he wouldn't even have a win.

He is very intelligent. Free agents was his worst performance athletically, but he was running the show politically. His move to flip the cards was stupid but he ran the house that season which is a clear sign of intelligence.He also performed great on Rivals 2 and Exes 2 and he has performed great in eliminations.Darrell is better than Jordan but like I said, if Jordan pulls out a win, that will put him in the elite class. Right now he is borderline elite

LOL @ Jordan running the house on Free Agents...he was a puppet for Zach & CT.  He didn't perform great on Rivals 2 or Exes 2.  What is his great elimination win?   Darrell is infinitely better than Jordan.  Jordan isn't close to elite.  He's solid when his ego doesn't get the best of him.  There is absolutely no way I'd want him as a partner over Darrell, CT, Derrick, Bananas or even Cory.  He'on par with Leroy which is good but not elite.  You're overselling him.  And he's not intelligent in any way. 

Good luck with that. 

Yeah, Cory's knee is a problem but I think it would be easier to keep him under control than having to worry about Jordan doing something stupid

In a final I would probably take Jordan over all those names you mentioned. Darrell can't swim right? CT's endurance is questionable. Derrick is not bright. Bananas is well rounded but don't think he'd be as good as Jordan. Jordan's biggest weakness is his size and his ego. 

Rewatch the Gauntlet if you don't think Darrell can't swim....Johnnny who I hate >>>>>>>>>> JordanDerrick 's an idiot but I got the puzzlesThe truth is only CT & Johnny are good at puzzles of the 5

Darrell can swim but doesn't like heights and is not good at puzzles. Derrick as u said is an idiot when it comes to puzzle or trivia (watch Inferno 3). CT lacks endurance, and Johnny is know to be all-round player. For Jordan don't know what is worse, lacking 1 hand or his huge ego.

Jordan is as dumb as Derrick.  Darrell is better at puzzles than Jordan--he did them on Fresh Meat II even though they lost. Jordan's ego and lack of a hand are huge issues.  Darrell being afraid of heights has never stopped him from doing something

 

kvm1977 wrote:

CCC318 wrote:He demolished Zach in the sledgehammer elimination. 

Partner elimination--not individual and Zach isn't elite

It doesn't matter that it was a partner elimination. The first leg of the elimination was Jordan vs Zach and he destroyed him and Sarah finished against Jonna.Zach isn't elite but an elimination like that is built for him. Using a sledgehammer and bashing it into an object. 

How is that elimination built for him? It's not built more anybody unless they are in a profession where a sledgehammer is regularly used.. Just because Zach is big doesn't mean he is going to be good at everything than involved brute strength, and this elimination showed that. He wasn't holding the hammer correctly and he wasn't swinging it correctly. So it really wasn't built for him at all.

I like how people just discredit Jordan.

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