The Challenge: Burn Book (Spoilers)

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CONSTANT TERRIBLE OUTCOMES.This is like the only ******* show that I know of that constantly has the worst ******* people win. From The Red Team on Cutthroat to Team San Diego on Seasons 2 to JEK on The Ruins to Just Backpack winning ANY season. It's like the bad guys always win and that just looks so disheartening for the viewer because well...They don't get what they deserve and we don't get the satisfaction of watching them lose and that's a key thing in reality TV. I mean in other shows like Survivor or Big Brother the winner usually has some likability to them(with some exceptions) and the big bads usually get shit. Russel Hantz(Survivor), New York(Flavor of Love), Allison(Big Brother 4) are examples of people who were terrible but got what they deserved in the end. That's usually not the case with this show and that needs to change.More likable winners need to happen. Would help this show in the long run IMO.

Agreed! This! Either have more likable winners or see horrible people get what they deserve. The show definitely needs retribution for those who are just terrible. I ****** hate Vince for example because this ******* has never got the chance to eat that humble pie and he knows nothing will happen to him because his cousin is there. He needs a wake up call aka CT backpack style. As a matter of fact CT's backpack was probably the last time where a "villain" got some kind of karma even tho the red team was being horrible on that season. On Rivals 1 Evan got the boot but then before the final Johnny and Tyler win, on Exes Johnny wins again, BOTS2 San Diego jerks win, it just ******* sucks.

Debut Album wrote:
CONSTANT TERRIBLE OUTCOMES.This is like the only ******* show that I know of that constantly has the worst ******* people win. From The Red Team on Cutthroat to Team San Diego on Seasons 2 to JEK on The Ruins to Just Backpack winning ANY season. It's like the bad guys always win and that just looks so disheartening for the viewer because well...They don't get what they deserve and we don't get the satisfaction of watching them lose and that's a key thing in reality TV. I mean in other shows like Survivor or Big Brother the winner usually has some likability to them(with some exceptions) and the big bads usually get shit. Russel Hantz(Survivor), New York(Flavor of Love), Allison(Big Brother 4) are examples of people who were terrible but got what they deserved in the end. That's usually not the case with this show and that needs to change.More likable winners need to happen. Would help this show in the long run IMO.

Agreed! This! Either have more likable winners or see horrible people get what they deserve. The show definitely needs retribution for those who are just terrible. I ****** hate Vince for example because this ******* has never got the chance to eat that humble pie and he knows nothing will happen to him because his cousin is there. He needs a wake up call aka CT backpack style. As a matter of fact CT's backpack was probably the last time where a "villain" got some kind of karma even tho the red team was being horrible on that season. On Rivals 1 Evan got the boot but then before the final Johnny and Tyler win, on Exes Johnny wins again, BOTS2 San Diego jerks win, it just ******* sucks.

not neccesarily true. on Exes 2 Jordan and Sarah won (i know people despise Sarah but imho Sarah isn't a villain and her winning was WAY better than Bananas/Nany Thotzales winning) , plus Bananas did get some karma because he had to be eliminated by one of his closest allies Roylee :) 

xHollyangel wrote:
Debut Album wrote:CONSTANT TERRIBLE OUTCOMES.This is like the only ******* show that I know of that constantly has the worst ******* people win. From The Red Team on Cutthroat to Team San Diego on Seasons 2 to JEK on The Ruins to Just Backpack winning ANY season. It's like the bad guys always win and that just looks so disheartening for the viewer because well...They don't get what they deserve and we don't get the satisfaction of watching them lose and that's a key thing in reality TV. I mean in other shows like Survivor or Big Brother the winner usually has some likability to them(with some exceptions) and the big bads usually get shit. Russel Hantz(Survivor), New York(Flavor of Love), Allison(Big Brother 4) are examples of people who were terrible but got what they deserved in the end. That's usually not the case with this show and that needs to change.More likable winners need to happen. Would help this show in the long run IMO.

Agreed! This! Either have more likable winners or see horrible people get what they deserve. The show definitely needs retribution for those who are just terrible. I ****** hate Vince for example because this ******* has never got the chance to eat that humble pie and he knows nothing will happen to him because his cousin is there. He needs a wake up call aka CT backpack style. As a matter of fact CT's backpack was probably the last time where a "villain" got some kind of karma even tho the red team was being horrible on that season. On Rivals 1 Evan got the boot but then before the final Johnny and Tyler win, on Exes Johnny wins again, BOTS2 San Diego jerks win, it just ******* sucks.

not neccesarily true. on Exes 2 Jordan and Sarah won (i know people despise Sarah but imho Sarah isn't a villain and her winning was WAY better than Bananas/Nany Thotzales winning) , plus Bananas did get some karma because he had to be eliminated by one of his closest allies Roylee :) 

I dont like Sarah and she was never a honest winner, she is arrogant and full of herself so i don't consider that a "good guy" winning at the end. Not to mention that Exes 2 was a special season where the true "deserving winners" got robbed of the win(Wes and Theresa who played the best game) and Bananas had the last laugh of him. He got eliminated twice but it didnt feel like a real closure because of Wes/Theresa being robbed.

I think the last good winners this show had was Fresh Meat 2. Since that challenge, there's been at least one unlikeable winner. Even on Rivals 2, I hated that Paula won again. 

I think the last good winners this show had was Fresh Meat 2. Since that challenge, there's been at least one unlikeable winner. Even on Rivals 2, I hated that Paula won again. 

Agreed. Not only did I hate that Paula won I hate that Backpack/Wes/CT/Paula were all in t he ******* final on that season. After a season of fresh new finalists we just went back to the same old shit and it was really depressing.

rwportland2 wrote:

I think the last good winners this show had was Fresh Meat 2. Since that challenge, there's been at least one unlikeable winner. Even on Rivals 2, I hated that Paula won again. 

Agreed. Not only did I hate that Paula won I hate that Backpack/Wes/CT/Paula were all in t he ******* final on that season. After a season of fresh new finalists we just went back to the same old shit and it was really depressing.

Jordan/Marlon, Cooke/Cara Maria winning that challenge would have been everything. Even though I really dislike Cara, it would have been worth seeing 3 rookies win. 

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rwportland2 wrote:I think the last good winners this show had was Fresh Meat 2. Since that challenge, there's been at least one unlikeable winner. Even on Rivals 2, I hated that Paula won again. 

Agreed. Not only did I hate that Paula won I hate that Backpack/Wes/CT/Paula were all in t he ******* final on that season. After a season of fresh new finalists we just went back to the same old shit and it was really depressing.

Jordan/Marlon, Cooke/Cara Maria winning that challenge would have been everything. Even though I really dislike Cara, it would have been worth seeing 3 rookies win. 

Oh yeah. Had those two teams won it would've made up for the return of the status quo. I was so mad when Jordan/Marlon got eliminated because I was rooting for them hardcore.

I think the last good winners this show had was Fresh Meat 2. Since that challenge, there's been at least one unlikeable winner. Even on Rivals 2, I hated that Paula won again. 

Paula ended on high note. It was perfect! So happy she won and retired.

I didn't think much of knight in the challenges until I saw his RW season. Then I rewatched the challenges and loved every moment with him.

i have always found it odd that some people can say such crazy shit but still be so god damn likable. One of the few cast members I could see myself hanging out with and just having a great time.  I do believe he'd be my age if he was still around. 29.

i wonder if he'd have been on any of these past few seasons had he still been around.

i can definitely see why people would be put off by him tho.

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people that are put off by him usually are hypersensitivty ******* lol

Knight was shitty most of the time, but I love how he defended Jemmey and punched Frank on the Rivals 2 reunion. Frank definietly deserved that.

Please.  Knight had said (& done) way worse that what Frank said about Jemmye.  Apparently, Knight was the only one who was allowed to treat that girl like shit. 

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xHollyangel wrote:

Debut Album wrote:CONSTANT TERRIBLE OUTCOMES.This is like the only ******* show that I know of that constantly has the worst ******* people win. From The Red Team on Cutthroat to Team San Diego on Seasons 2 to JEK on The Ruins to Just Backpack winning ANY season. It's like the bad guys always win and that just looks so disheartening for the viewer because well...They don't get what they deserve and we don't get the satisfaction of watching them lose and that's a key thing in reality TV. I mean in other shows like Survivor or Big Brother the winner usually has some likability to them(with some exceptions) and the big bads usually get shit. Russel Hantz(Survivor), New York(Flavor of Love), Allison(Big Brother 4) are examples of people who were terrible but got what they deserved in the end. That's usually not the case with this show and that needs to change.More likable winners need to happen. Would help this show in the long run IMO.

Agreed! This! Either have more likable winners or see horrible people get what they deserve. The show definitely needs retribution for those who are just terrible. I ****** hate Vince for example because this ******* has never got the chance to eat that humble pie and he knows nothing will happen to him because his cousin is there. He needs a wake up call aka CT backpack style. As a matter of fact CT's backpack was probably the last time where a "villain" got some kind of karma even tho the red team was being horrible on that season. On Rivals 1 Evan got the boot but then before the final Johnny and Tyler win, on Exes Johnny wins again, BOTS2 San Diego jerks win, it just ******* sucks.

not neccesarily true. on Exes 2 Jordan and Sarah won (i know people despise Sarah but imho Sarah isn't a villain and her winning was WAY better than Bananas/Nany Thotzales winning) , plus Bananas did get some karma because he had to be eliminated by one of his closest allies Roylee :) 

I dont like Sarah and she was never a honest winner, she is arrogant and full of herself so i don't consider that a "good guy" winning at the end. Not to mention that Exes 2 was a special season where the true "deserving winners" got robbed of the win(Wes and Theresa who played the best game) and Bananas had the last laugh of him. He got eliminated twice but it didnt feel like a real closure because of Wes/Theresa being robbed.

it would have been close because Jordan is pretty good at finals. 

Please.  Knight had said (& done) way worse that what Frank said about Jemmye.  Apparently, Knight was the only one who was allowed to treat that girl like shit. 

This is a good point tbh.

THE REACTION TO THE SWITCHEROO MOVE ON INFERNO 2.

This actually was a good moment but there were some things I hated about it.

So The Bad *** team won the fill in the gaps mission and now both teams deilberate on who to send into the inferno on the opposite team each. On the good guys team Shavonda/Jamie wanted to go against Tonya but Jodi and Julie wanted Veronica. So since the good guys were going to announce after the BA's who they're sending in from that team they pretty much decide that they would make their pick based on who the Bad ***** chose for The Inferno. So if they picked Shavonda/Jamie they would vote Tonya in and if Julie/Jodi gets picked they would go with Veroinca. Welp...Bad ***** chose Jodi so Veroinca got picked. When Veronica's name was said The Bad ***** got PISSSED OFF!  

Three things bothered me about this whole thing.

The first thing that bothered me was Derrick being pissed off at Jodi for the plan and I'm like..what? Jodi didn't betray you nor did even ask you to NOT vote for her. I get that you're her friend but you're just being butthurt for no reason. 

Then the second thing was Jodi letting them get inside her head and allow them to make her fell bad about the plan. If I were her I would've told them to **** themselves and left it at that. 

And then the third thing was Jodi losing but we all know that they wanted to keep Veronica...

But yeah..Great moment but didn't like The Bad ***** being pissy about it and not admiting that they got outplayed.

 

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young jodi! lol they did overreact on the bad ***** side but that goes to show how afraid veronica was of going in, but hey she sent someone home who went on to be a top tier female

overall that season never gets old. if mtv was smart theyd play that season on repeat along with a few others instead of ridiculousness for 8 hours a day

DA since you always hate something what do you hate about Challenge 29 results, rumors, etc? It's a pretty amazing season on paper and hopefully it doesnt dissapoint

Daddy DAF
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DA since you always hate something what do you hate about Challenge 29 results, rumors, etc? It's a pretty amazing season on paper and hopefully it doesnt dissapoint

we should do predictions on what DA hates from S29!!

I would say:

CT winning

Zach being on

Jenna being on

Camila going far as well as Amanda

Hunter going far

Nicole and Laurel together

zach/ashley/jenna storyline 

HonestTea101 wrote:

DA since you always hate something what do you hate about Challenge 29 results, rumors, etc? It's a pretty amazing season on paper and hopefully it doesnt dissapoint

we should do predictions on what DA hates from S29!!I would say:CT winningZach being onJenna being onCamila going far as well as AmandaHunter going farNicole and Laurel togetherzach/ashley/jenna storyline 

I think he likes hunter (could be wrong!)

Diamonds are Forever wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:DA since you always hate something what do you hate about Challenge 29 results, rumors, etc? It's a pretty amazing season on paper and hopefully it doesnt dissapoint

we should do predictions on what DA hates from S29!!I would say:CT winningZach being onJenna being onCamila going far as well as AmandaHunter going farNicole and Laurel togetherzach/ashley/jenna storyline 

I think he likes hunter (could be wrong!)

He doesnt

Derrick being knocked off the final cast is the thing i hated most about Challenge 29. I was really looking forward to seeing him and Darrell both come back. No one was asking for Zach to come back other than the rare fans that care to see Zach/Jenna's boring relationship.

DA since you always hate something what do you hate about Challenge 29 results, rumors, etc? It's a pretty amazing season on paper and hopefully it doesnt dissapoint

You pretty much know honestly. All the shitty regulars, Zach returning, Anthony/Dario/Hunter taking spots that could've easily gone to RW'ers, CT Winning. Zach/Jenna's BS, Dylan not getting on!

Other than that the cast is great though.

I don't why it's such a problem that I dislike things on this show. I don't have to like everything and everyone on this show.

HonestTea101 wrote:

Diamonds are Forever wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:DA since you always hate something what do you hate about Challenge 29 results, rumors, etc? It's a pretty amazing season on paper and hopefully it doesnt dissapoint

we should do predictions on what DA hates from S29!!I would say:CT winningZach being onJenna being onCamila going far as well as AmandaHunter going farNicole and Laurel togetherzach/ashley/jenna storyline 

I think he likes hunter (could be wrong!)

He doesnt

Bingo.

And EEEK! At your avitar. I love Ceejai but that scared the shit out of me.

HonestTea101 wrote:

DA since you always hate something what do you hate about Challenge 29 results, rumors, etc? It's a pretty amazing season on paper and hopefully it doesnt dissapoint

You pretty much know honestly. All the shitty regulars, Zach returning, Anthony/Dario/Hunter taking spots that could've easily gone to RW'ers, CT Winning. Zach/Jenna's BS, Dylan not getting on!Other than that the cast is great though.I don't why it's such a problem that I dislike things on this show. I don't have to like everything and everyone on this show.

It's not a problem you dislike thing lol thats a normal thing for reality shows, you're just very vocal about what you hate so I thought I'd ask

Derrick being knocked off the final cast is the thing i hated most about Challenge 29. I was really looking forward to seeing him and Darrell both come back. No one was asking for Zach to come back other than the rare fans that care to see Zach/Jenna's boring relationship.

Agreed. Derrick could've easily got Zach's spot. 

Debut Album wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:DA since you always hate something what do you hate about Challenge 29 results, rumors, etc? It's a pretty amazing season on paper and hopefully it doesnt dissapoint

You pretty much know honestly. All the shitty regulars, Zach returning, Anthony/Dario/Hunter taking spots that could've easily gone to RW'ers, CT Winning. Zach/Jenna's BS, Dylan not getting on!Other than that the cast is great though.I don't why it's such a problem that I dislike things on this show. I don't have to like everything and everyone on this show.

It's not a problem you dislike thing lol thats a normal thing for reality shows, you're just very vocal about what you hate so I thought I'd ask

Oh..So you weren't trolling? Okay. Thought you were.

Oh and I hate that it's in Thailand. Why they keep doing challenges there I'll never understand. If there's any place that they need to go back to it's Mexico or Trinidad & Tobago where The Gauntlet 2 was filmed or even Jamaica.

HonestTea101 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:DA since you always hate something what do you hate about Challenge 29 results, rumors, etc? It's a pretty amazing season on paper and hopefully it doesnt dissapoint

You pretty much know honestly. All the shitty regulars, Zach returning, Anthony/Dario/Hunter taking spots that could've easily gone to RW'ers, CT Winning. Zach/Jenna's BS, Dylan not getting on!Other than that the cast is great though.I don't why it's such a problem that I dislike things on this show. I don't have to like everything and everyone on this show.

It's not a problem you dislike thing lol thats a normal thing for reality shows, you're just very vocal about what you hate so I thought I'd ask

Oh..So you weren't trolling? Okay. Thought you were.Oh and I hate that it's in Thailand. Why they keep doing challenges there I'll never understand. If there's any place that they need to go back to it's Mexico or Trinidad & Tobago where The Gauntlet 2 was filmed or even Jamaica.

Thailand living condition are usually terrible on this show

Debut Album wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:
HonestTea101 wrote:DA since you always hate something what do you hate about Challenge 29 results, rumors, etc? It's a pretty amazing season on paper and hopefully it doesnt dissapoint

You pretty much know honestly. All the shitty regulars, Zach returning, Anthony/Dario/Hunter taking spots that could've easily gone to RW'ers, CT Winning. Zach/Jenna's BS, Dylan not getting on!Other than that the cast is great though.I don't why it's such a problem that I dislike things on this show. I don't have to like everything and everyone on this show.

It's not a problem you dislike thing lol thats a normal thing for reality shows, you're just very vocal about what you hate so I thought I'd ask

Oh..So you weren't trolling? Okay. Thought you were.Oh and I hate that it's in Thailand. Why they keep doing challenges there I'll never understand. If there's any place that they need to go back to it's Mexico or Trinidad & Tobago where The Gauntlet 2 was filmed or even Jamaica.

Thailand living condition are usually terrible on this show

That's why I hate that they keep going there. 

Y'all gave me some more Ideas for entries. Thanks.

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