I wonder if having Darrell, Mark, Rachel, etc. back would really help the ratings?
I don't think so. The show is in a bind because the network is struggling badly. Until MTV can come back, The Challenge won't come back IMO.
Nope. They wouldn't help at all IMO.
There's no doubt they'd help--the question is how much and would it be significant. MTV/BMP doesn't believe they will be so they keep casting the same newer kids hoping that people grow to like them. That's not working...see the responses Zach & Jordan are getting. They need to figure out something. Right now they're pretty much putting their hopes in Nia becoming Coral
I wonder if having Darrell, Mark, Rachel, etc. back would really help the ratings?
I don't think so. The show is in a bind because the network is struggling badly. Until MTV can come back, The Challenge won't come back IMO.
Nope. They wouldn't help at all IMO.
There's no doubt they'd help--the question is how much and would it be significant. MTV/BMP doesn't believe they will be so they keep casting the same newer kids hoping that people grow to like them. That's not working...see the responses Zach & Jordan are getting. They need to figure out something. Right now they're pretty much putting their hopes in Nia becoming Coral
They love Nia! You can tell. But Nia and Coral are two totally different people. However? Nia has a solid fanbase.
But I don't. I can't say how much old people will work. I guess it be worth a try to cast them but only a handle full and not the whole crew. And by handle full I mean 3 lol
I think BMP knows Bananas and Nany are important so them being out early must have worried them a bit. Has anyone else noticed that the Exiles and getting much more promo during the episode than before? I think thats because its Nany and Bananas honestly and that right there shows that those two are important to the show.
I wonder if having Darrell, Mark, Rachel, etc. back would really help the ratings?
I don't think so. The show is in a bind because the network is struggling badly. Until MTV can come back, The Challenge won't come back IMO.
Nope. They wouldn't help at all IMO.
There's no doubt they'd help--the question is how much and would it be significant. MTV/BMP doesn't believe they will be so they keep casting the same newer kids hoping that people grow to like them. That's not working...see the responses Zach & Jordan are getting. They need to figure out something. Right now they're pretty much putting their hopes in Nia becoming Coral
That's the same amount of hate Bananas got on the island, a lot of the fans have short memory and he end being likable to a lot of fans.
That's the same amount of hate Bananas got on the island, a lot of the fans have short memory and he end being likable to a lot of fans.
Because of Evan & Kenny
Who saves Jordan and Zach? Reilly?
I understand the point your making but if they're relying on Jordan and Zach they have a problem unless the fix their image ASAP
Well you have all the answers it seems? What's gonna happen next season if there is one? I know you said something about them willing to a do a Cutthroat 2 or whatever.
That's the same amount of hate Bananas got on the island, a lot of the fans have short memory and he end being likable to a lot of fans.
Because of Evan & Kenny
Who saves Jordan and Zach? Reilly?
I understand the point your making but if they're relying on Jordan and Zach they have a problem unless the fix their image ASAP
Well you have all the answers it seems? What's gonna happen next season if there is one? I know you said something about them willing to a do a Cutthroat 2 or whatever.
Not Cutthroat...I said a team challenge like Cutthroat is a possibility. Seasons isn't. Next season could be pretty much anything--other than Seasons or Rivals.
If you don't think Johnny got a free pass from many for the Island because he was part of JEK then I don't know what to tell you
I think the ratings have been great, especially since it airs at midnight for most people "on a Tuesday!" on MTV which is so random.It airs at 8 p.m. for me so I don't have to deal with that foolery.
That's the same amount of hate Bananas got on the island, a lot of the fans have short memory and he end being likable to a lot of fans.
Because of Evan & Kenny
Who saves Jordan and Zach? Reilly?
I understand the point your making but if they're relying on Jordan and Zach they have a problem unless the fix their image ASAP
Well you have all the answers it seems? What's gonna happen next season if there is one? I know you said something about them willing to a do a Cutthroat 2 or whatever.
Not Cutthroat...I said a team challenge like Cutthroat is a possibility. Seasons isn't. Next season could be pretty much anything--other than Seasons or Rivals.
If you don't think Johnny got a free pass from many for the Island because he was part of JEK then I don't know what to tell you
Mmmmm what Rookies vs. Veterans vs. Legends? I doubt it. But we'll see.
That's the same amount of hate Bananas got on the island, a lot of the fans have short memory and he end being likable to a lot of fans.
Because of Evan & Kenny
Who saves Jordan and Zach? Reilly?
I understand the point your making but if they're relying on Jordan and Zach they have a problem unless the fix their image ASAP
Well you have all the answers it seems? What's gonna happen next season if there is one? I know you said something about them willing to a do a Cutthroat 2 or whatever.
Not Cutthroat...I said a team challenge like Cutthroat is a possibility. Seasons isn't. Next season could be pretty much anything--other than Seasons or Rivals.
If you don't think Johnny got a free pass from many for the Island because he was part of JEK then I don't know what to tell you
Mmmmm what Rookies vs. Veterans vs. Legends? I doubt it. But we'll see.
There aren't that many options IMO.
There really aren't. If the challenge gets renewed(which it probably will) I don't know what they're going to do format-wise.
That's the same amount of hate Bananas got on the island, a lot of the fans have short memory and he end being likable to a lot of fans.
Because of Evan & Kenny
Who saves Jordan and Zach? Reilly?
I understand the point your making but if they're relying on Jordan and Zach they have a problem unless the fix their image ASAP
Well you have all the answers it seems? What's gonna happen next season if there is one? I know you said something about them willing to a do a Cutthroat 2 or whatever.
Not Cutthroat...I said a team challenge like Cutthroat is a possibility. Seasons isn't. Next season could be pretty much anything--other than Seasons or Rivals.
If you don't think Johnny got a free pass from many for the Island because he was part of JEK then I don't know what to tell you
Mmmmm what Rookies vs. Veterans vs. Legends? I doubt it. But we'll see.
There aren't that many options IMO.
There really aren't. If the challenge gets renewed(which it probably will) I don't know what they're going to do format-wise.
I have a feeling they're going to continue with the partner challenges sadly. Watch the next season be Rivals 3 or Co-Ed Rivals.
That's the same amount of hate Bananas got on the island, a lot of the fans have short memory and he end being likable to a lot of fans.
Because of Evan & Kenny
Who saves Jordan and Zach? Reilly?
I understand the point your making but if they're relying on Jordan and Zach they have a problem unless the fix their image ASAP
Well you have all the answers it seems? What's gonna happen next season if there is one? I know you said something about them willing to a do a Cutthroat 2 or whatever.
Not Cutthroat...I said a team challenge like Cutthroat is a possibility. Seasons isn't. Next season could be pretty much anything--other than Seasons or Rivals.
If you don't think Johnny got a free pass from many for the Island because he was part of JEK then I don't know what to tell you
Mmmmm what Rookies vs. Veterans vs. Legends? I doubt it. But we'll see.
There aren't that many options IMO.
There really aren't. If the challenge gets renewed(which it probably will) I don't know what they're going to do format-wise.
I have a feeling they're going to continue with the partner challenges sadly. Watch the next season be Rivals 3 or Co-Ed Rivals.
The mere thought of another Rivals this soon just makes me wanna vomit.
Lol a lot of cast members have been talking about a co-ed rivals but only because BMP loves the rivals theme and seems logical just like how everyone knew this season was going to be Exes 2.
Luckily, at this point it's either gonna be partners or teams. I don't see another individual challenge so soon. If they go partners I see either like Fresh Meat (which I doubt) or co-ed Rivals. I doubt they do Allies. If they do teams, I not really sure. Old vs. New but to me they missed their opportunity for that. A revamp of GG vs. BB possibly. A 3 team challenge but with what theme.
I want a Seasons (2 or 3) because its partners & teams. The format is great and the last one was good and I think the second one could produce a better well known cast. Yes, the first one did okay but it did better than where we are at now sadly.
I wonder if having Darrell, Mark, Rachel, etc. back would really help the ratings?
I don't think so. The show is in a bind because the network is struggling badly. Until MTV can come back, The Challenge won't come back IMO.
Nope. They wouldn't help at all IMO.
There's no doubt they'd help--the question is how much and would it be significant. MTV/BMP doesn't believe they will be so they keep casting the same newer kids hoping that people grow to like them. That's not working...see the responses Zach & Jordan are getting. They need to figure out something. Right now they're pretty much putting their hopes in Nia becoming Coral
In my case she is pretty much the ONLY reason i'm still keeping up with the show (the other being the chance that the legends like Coral/Darrell make their return). However, I don't see her doing that many challenges, especially if she gets a win.
We talk all the time about what they need to do but it's apparent that they really don't give a damn.
I wonder if having Darrell, Mark, Rachel, etc. back would really help the ratings?
I don't think so. The show is in a bind because the network is struggling badly. Until MTV can come back, The Challenge won't come back IMO.
Nope. They wouldn't help at all IMO.
There's no doubt they'd help--the question is how much and would it be significant. MTV/BMP doesn't believe they will be so they keep casting the same newer kids hoping that people grow to like them. That's not working...see the responses Zach & Jordan are getting. They need to figure out something. Right now they're pretty much putting their hopes in Nia becoming Coral
In my case she is pretty much the ONLY reason i'm still keeping up with the show (the other being the chance that the legends like Coral/Darrell make their return). However, I don't see her doing that many challenges, especially if she gets a win.
We talk all the time about what they need to do but it's apparent that they really don't give a damn.
The format that would bring the most out of Nia would be The Duel or maybe even Cutthroat. (I'm talking drama-wise)
Surprise surprise, there are absolutely NO reruns for this show. If you look at MTV's schedule from now until next week, the only time The Challenge is shown is during its new episode next Tuesday night.
I think the ratings have been great, especially since it airs at midnight for most people "on a Tuesday!" on MTV which is so random.It airs at 8 p.m. for me so I don't have to deal with that foolery.
The Viacom execs don't agree with you, and, frankly, their opinions are the only ones that count (and maybe some stockholers, too, who tend to be vocal at the annual stockholder's meeting -- March 16, 2015 at 1111 Lincoln Road, Miami Beach, Florida, beginning at 11:30 a.m., Eastern Daylight Time) .
Good news, though: it appears there will be another challenge season (unless there is a cancellation forced on MTV from above), and the casting for it may be very different than any other, and include no one outside the RW/RR/Fresh Meat family.
We talk all the time about what they need to do but it's apparent that they really don't give a damn.
Well, it's their jobs on the line, so of course they give a damn. They simply don't think that vevmo represents a significant point of view --as though there were a singular opinion here. Frankly, there is no more agreement between MTV and BMP than there is among people here within vevmo.
I think the ratings have been great, especially since it airs at midnight for most people "on a Tuesday!" on MTV which is so random.It airs at 8 p.m. for me so I don't have to deal with that foolery.
The Viacom execs don't agree with you, and, frankly, their opinions are the only ones that count (and maybe some stockholers, too, who tend to be vocal at the annual stockholder's meeting -- March 16, 2015 at 1111 Lincoln Road, Miami Beach, Florida, beginning at 11:30 a.m., Eastern Daylight Time) .
Good news, though: it appears there will be another challenge season (unless there is a cancellation forced on MTV from above), and the casting for it may be very different than any other, and include no one outside the RW/RR/Fresh Meat family.
We talk all the time about what they need to do but it's apparent that they really don't give a damn.
Well, it's their jobs on the line, so of course they give a damn. They simply don't think that vevmo represents a significant point of view --as though there were a singular opinion here. Frankly, there is no more agreement between MTV and BMP than there is among people here within vevmo.
What would be a "good" number if somebody asked you and you were part of the high execs?
I hate it when V1man teases us this way, but I'm glad that Adam/Brittany are already in the Challenge community. Sarcasm
I think the ratings have been great, especially since it airs at midnight for most people "on a Tuesday!" on MTV which is so random.It airs at 8 p.m. for me so I don't have to deal with that foolery.
The Viacom execs don't agree with you, and, frankly, their opinions are the only ones that count (and maybe some stockholers, too, who tend to be vocal at the annual stockholder's meeting -- March 16, 2015 at 1111 Lincoln Road, Miami Beach, Florida, beginning at 11:30 a.m., Eastern Daylight Time) .
Good news, though: it appears there will be another challenge season (unless there is a cancellation forced on MTV from above), and the casting for it may be very different than any other, and include no one outside the RW/RR/Fresh Meat family.
What are the odds of seeing Beth & Coral? I don't think high but others on here think so.
I think the ratings have been great, especially since it airs at midnight for most people "on a Tuesday!" on MTV which is so random.It airs at 8 p.m. for me so I don't have to deal with that foolery.
The Viacom execs don't agree with you, and, frankly, their opinions are the only ones that count (and maybe some stockholers, too, who tend to be vocal at the annual stockholder's meeting -- March 16, 2015 at 1111 Lincoln Road, Miami Beach, Florida, beginning at 11:30 a.m., Eastern Daylight Time) .
Good news, though: it appears there will be another challenge season (unless there is a cancellation forced on MTV from above), and the casting for it may be very different than any other, and include no one outside the RW/RR/Fresh Meat family.
What are the odds of seeing Beth & Coral? I don't think high but others on here think so.
MTV.com seems to have been interested in both of them recently, but I don't know about either returning to a challenge. Both have their own things going on. To make this thread-relevant however, I do think both have strong following from different demographic blocks which could help MTV rise above 1.5M per episode which might provided some welcome job security for an executive or two in NY and Hollywood. The recent fall off in ratings for the challenge have to be a serious kick in the teeth to a few people in high places.
I think the ratings have been great, especially since it airs at midnight for most people "on a Tuesday!" on MTV which is so random.It airs at 8 p.m. for me so I don't have to deal with that foolery.
The Viacom execs don't agree with you, and, frankly, their opinions are the only ones that count (and maybe some stockholers, too, who tend to be vocal at the annual stockholder's meeting -- March 16, 2015 at 1111 Lincoln Road, Miami Beach, Florida, beginning at 11:30 a.m., Eastern Daylight Time) .
Good news, though: it appears there will be another challenge season (unless there is a cancellation forced on MTV from above), and the casting for it may be very different than any other, and include no one outside the RW/RR/Fresh Meat family.
I think the ratings have been great, especially since it airs at midnight for most people "on a Tuesday!" on MTV which is so random.It airs at 8 p.m. for me so I don't have to deal with that foolery.
The Viacom execs don't agree with you, and, frankly, their opinions are the only ones that count (and maybe some stockholers, too, who tend to be vocal at the annual stockholder's meeting -- March 16, 2015 at 1111 Lincoln Road, Miami Beach, Florida, beginning at 11:30 a.m., Eastern Daylight Time) .
Good news, though: it appears there will be another challenge season (unless there is a cancellation forced on MTV from above), and the casting for it may be very different than any other, and include no one outside the RW/RR/Fresh Meat family.
Thank God.
So you've finally warmed up to the Fresh Meat people?
I think the ratings have been great, especially since it airs at midnight for most people "on a Tuesday!" on MTV which is so random.It airs at 8 p.m. for me so I don't have to deal with that foolery.
The Viacom execs don't agree with you, and, frankly, their opinions are the only ones that count (and maybe some stockholers, too, who tend to be vocal at the annual stockholder's meeting -- March 16, 2015 at 1111 Lincoln Road, Miami Beach, Florida, beginning at 11:30 a.m., Eastern Daylight Time) .
Good news, though: it appears there will be another challenge season (unless there is a cancellation forced on MTV from above), and the casting for it may be very different than any other, and include no one outside the RW/RR/Fresh Meat family.
Thank God.
So you've finally warmed up to the Fresh Meat people?
Well I've warmed up to one of them(Theresa) but largley no. I would just rather have Fresh Meat on rather than some random people from a show that had nothing to do with this franchise. At least Fresh Meat was an actual Challenge season.
I think the ratings have been great, especially since it airs at midnight for most people "on a Tuesday!" on MTV which is so random.It airs at 8 p.m. for me so I don't have to deal with that foolery.
The Viacom execs don't agree with you, and, frankly, their opinions are the only ones that count (and maybe some stockholers, too, who tend to be vocal at the annual stockholder's meeting -- March 16, 2015 at 1111 Lincoln Road, Miami Beach, Florida, beginning at 11:30 a.m., Eastern Daylight Time) .
Good news, though: it appears there will be another challenge season (unless there is a cancellation forced on MTV from above), and the casting for it may be very different than any other, and include no one outside the RW/RR/Fresh Meat family.
What do you mean by different? Like people we haven't seen in a while and less regulars?
There's no doubt they'd help--the question is how much and would it be significant. MTV/BMP doesn't believe they will be so they keep casting the same newer kids hoping that people grow to like them. That's not working...see the responses Zach & Jordan are getting. They need to figure out something. Right now they're pretty much putting their hopes in Nia becoming Coral
They love Nia! You can tell. But Nia and Coral are two totally different people. However? Nia has a solid fanbase.
But I don't. I can't say how much old people will work. I guess it be worth a try to cast them but only a handle full and not the whole crew. And by handle full I mean 3 lol
I think BMP knows Bananas and Nany are important so them being out early must have worried them a bit. Has anyone else noticed that the Exiles and getting much more promo during the episode than before? I think thats because its Nany and Bananas honestly and that right there shows that those two are important to the show.
That's the same amount of hate Bananas got on the island, a lot of the fans have short memory and he end being likable to a lot of fans.
Because of Evan & Kenny
Who saves Jordan and Zach? Reilly?
I understand the point your making but if they're relying on Jordan and Zach they have a problem unless the fix their image ASAP
Well you have all the answers it seems? What's gonna happen next season if there is one? I know you said something about them willing to a do a Cutthroat 2 or whatever.
Not Cutthroat...I said a team challenge like Cutthroat is a possibility. Seasons isn't. Next season could be pretty much anything--other than Seasons or Rivals.
If you don't think Johnny got a free pass from many for the Island because he was part of JEK then I don't know what to tell you
I think the ratings have been great, especially since it airs at midnight for most people "on a Tuesday!" on MTV which is so random.It airs at 8 p.m. for me so I don't have to deal with that foolery.
Mmmmm what Rookies vs. Veterans vs. Legends? I doubt it. But we'll see.
There aren't that many options IMO.
There really aren't. If the challenge gets renewed(which it probably will) I don't know what they're going to do format-wise.
I have a feeling they're going to continue with the partner challenges sadly. Watch the next season be Rivals 3 or Co-Ed Rivals.
The mere thought of another Rivals this soon just makes me wanna vomit.
Lol a lot of cast members have been talking about a co-ed rivals but only because BMP loves the rivals theme and seems logical just like how everyone knew this season was going to be Exes 2.
Luckily, at this point it's either gonna be partners or teams. I don't see another individual challenge so soon. If they go partners I see either like Fresh Meat (which I doubt) or co-ed Rivals. I doubt they do Allies. If they do teams, I not really sure. Old vs. New but to me they missed their opportunity for that. A revamp of GG vs. BB possibly. A 3 team challenge but with what theme.
I want a Seasons (2 or 3) because its partners & teams. The format is great and the last one was good and I think the second one could produce a better well known cast. Yes, the first one did okay but it did better than where we are at now sadly.
In my case she is pretty much the ONLY reason i'm still keeping up with the show (the other being the chance that the legends like Coral/Darrell make their return). However, I don't see her doing that many challenges, especially if she gets a win.
We talk all the time about what they need to do but it's apparent that they really don't give a damn.
The format that would bring the most out of Nia would be The Duel or maybe even Cutthroat. (I'm talking drama-wise)
Surprise surprise, there are absolutely NO reruns for this show. If you look at MTV's schedule from now until next week, the only time The Challenge is shown is during its new episode next Tuesday night.
The Viacom execs don't agree with you, and, frankly, their opinions are the only ones that count (and maybe some stockholers, too, who tend to be vocal at the annual stockholder's meeting -- March 16, 2015 at 1111 Lincoln Road, Miami Beach, Florida, beginning at 11:30 a.m., Eastern Daylight Time) .
Good news, though: it appears there will be another challenge season (unless there is a cancellation forced on MTV from above), and the casting for it may be very different than any other, and include no one outside the RW/RR/Fresh Meat family.
Well, it's their jobs on the line, so of course they give a damn. They simply don't think that vevmo represents a significant point of view --as though there were a singular opinion here. Frankly, there is no more agreement between MTV and BMP than there is among people here within vevmo.
That sounds delightful.
Especially if it means even more different (unexpected?) than BOTSeasons.
It's V1Man to the RESCUE!!!
Where is the like button
What would be a "good" number if somebody asked you and you were part of the high execs?
I hate it when V1man teases us this way, but I'm glad that Adam/Brittany are already in the Challenge community. Sarcasm
The reunion for this is filming the 21st
What are the odds of seeing Beth & Coral? I don't think high but others on here think so.
MTV.com seems to have been interested in both of them recently, but I don't know about either returning to a challenge. Both have their own things going on. To make this thread-relevant however, I do think both have strong following from different demographic blocks which could help MTV rise above 1.5M per episode which might provided some welcome job security for an executive or two in NY and Hollywood. The recent fall off in ratings for the challenge have to be a serious kick in the teeth to a few people in high places.
Thank God.
So you've finally warmed up to the Fresh Meat people?
Well I've warmed up to one of them(Theresa) but largley no. I would just rather have Fresh Meat on rather than some random people from a show that had nothing to do with this franchise. At least Fresh Meat was an actual Challenge season.
What do you mean by different? Like people we haven't seen in a while and less regulars?
Forget Challenge 27. The apocalypse is upon us.
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