The Challenge: Battle of The Exes 2 - Leroy Garrett and Nia Moore

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I wish this was a physical one because Nia would have demolished her

That's why I wish X Battle or Hall Brawl was the elimination round between these 2 teams. Nia would have crushed Nany and Bananas is great, but Leroy would win as well

In words of Jasmine "Nia you talk all this stuff about how you're "Hurricane Nia," ***** you ain't nothing but Ms. Storm. Sit yo *** down" ****

You guys are really hard on Nia with her performance. Guys, she lasted 90 minutes with Cara Maria on her 1st elimination. Also, if they had the rope added like they did in the future Looper eliminations, Nia would have beaten CM (yes I said it). This is her 2nd challenge. She's done better than a lot of these girls so far in their 2nd challenge (Theresa)

I never understood why people gave Nia so much shit for losing to Cara Maria on FA.  Cara is a very good competitor and Nia lasted for a LONG time against her.  It's not like she bailed after 2 minutes 

Nia beat Nany..end of story..it a fair and **** near close race. Guy's are more fit for elimination anyway IMO..
But people are so bias lol im not surprised that Nia is being discredited for winning.

Like Leroy said ..FOCUS..I think both Nia & Nany were so pumped to get the bell first lol..I guarantee if Nany would've just calmed down she could've made it over that hump..

But Nia & Leroy did there thang..it takes 2

Lol Nia will never win no matter what she does & she will always be looked at under a different microscope as long as she continues to do these shows. I could go into a lot of detail about why this is so but it would ruffle some feathers & I'm not in the mood at the moment.

Lol Nia will never win no matter what she does & she will always be looked at under a different microscope as long as she continues to do these shows. I could go into a lot of detail about why this is so but it would ruffle some feathers & I'm not in the mood at the moment.

Please do tell.

But I personally think that her rookie status and what she did on Portland had something to do with it. She's also apart of the new generation of challengers and noone seems to want to give them credit for anything so that's probably a factor as well.

The thing that I hate is that people on the challenges have done things close to par (Ex: Frank) and even worse things than Nia (Ex: CT) but they get praised when they win certain things and people seem to forget what they did. CT has intimidated Dan (Inferno 2) & Isaac (Duel 2) and has beaten up Adam (Duel 2) and Davis (Inferno 3) but he's now a saint to people. What Nia did in Portland was THE MOST. I'll agree to that. She was provoked when Johnny threw the energy drink in her face. If someone threw a drink in my face, of course I'll retaliate. Nia and Averey are now friends and squashed their beef but you guys are still going back to ONE incident she did in Portland compared to CT who has had MULTIPLE incidents on the challenges and is now a saint. Nia did her shit in both eliminations IMO. If you want to discredit Nia's win by saying she would have never won if Nany was stuck, then discredit Cohutta's wins in the Ruins when Wes tangled his rope in the Spool elimination and Syrus couldn't unlock his harness (when Syrus was the 1st one to make it there in the Hog Tie). Nany started it, Nia finished it. End of Story

Nia beat Nany hands-down, no exception. When was it shown that Nany was "stuck" first of all she could have lifted the strap up (which is the point of the game) and got it unstuck. To me it looks like an excuse Nany used because she was so worn out she couldn't keep going. Ain't no splinter in that log gonna prevent her from moving that much... 

In words of Jasmine "Nia you talk all this stuff about how you're "Hurricane Nia," ***** you ain't nothing but Ms. Storm. Sit yo *** down" ****

You guys are really hard on Nia with her performance. Guys, she lasted 90 minutes with Cara Maria on her 1st elimination. Also, if they had the rope added like they did in the future Looper eliminations, Nia would have beaten CM (yes I said it). This is her 2nd challenge. She's done better than a lot of these girls so far in their 2nd challenge (Theresa)

thereas would have made the final on cutthroat if tina didnt rig the elimination round. either blue or grey were going to be the winners of riot shield and at worst that would have ended in paula vs theresa and paula would have lost so i dont think it can be concluded that nia did "better" on her 2nd than theresa on hers.

people gave a hard time to nia for losing to cara maria because there has never been another weight based elimination event where a lighter person wins against a heavier except MJvsfrank or some fluke DQs like Svet vs beth. cara maria is strong but still when you have that many more pounds on somebody people expect you to win with such an "advantage" when all the eliminatino round entails is lugging your weight over your opponents lesser one to a bell.

under very very few circumstances should someone smaller then you be beating you at tug of war.

Nia beat Nany hands-down, no exception. When was it shown that Nany was "stuck" first of all she could have lifted the strap up (which is the point of the game) and got it unstuck. To me it looks like an excuse Nany used because she was so worn out she couldn't keep going. Ain't no splinter in that log gonna prevent her from moving that much... 

if that were the case then nany wouldnt have been struggling violently trying to get herself unbudged. looks like she got worn out as a result of getting budgedand unbudged, not before. her arm straps were moving and she was moving her legs but the straps on her legs didnt move. worn out is like what happened to veronica on the ruins where she litearlly stopped moving though admittedly that course appeared to be longer even though it didnt have the reverse aspect to it.

nia did beat her fair and square  and that cant be taken away from her

i hope somewhere down the line nia shows us that she can be good in a mission because so far we havent seen that at all

Does anyone know how Nia and Johnny Reilly's relationship is now?  I couldn't tell from his confessional during the sweat thing if he still hates her or not

Does anyone know how Nia and Johnny Reilly's relationship is now?  I couldn't tell from his confessional during the sweat thing if he still hates her or not

I think they are civil but that is really it.

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thereas would have made the final on cutthroat if tina didnt rig the elimination round. either blue or grey were going to be the winners of riot shield and at worst that would have ended in paula vs theresa and paula would have lost so i dont think it can be concluded that nia did "better" on her 2nd than theresa on hers.

people gave a hard time to nia for losing to cara maria because there has never been another weight based elimination event where a lighter person wins against a heavier except MJvsfrank or some fluke DQs like Svet vs beth. cara maria is strong but still when you have that many more pounds on somebody people expect you to win with such an "advantage" when all the eliminatino round entails is lugging your weight over your opponents lesser one to a bell.

under very very few circumstances should someone smaller then you be beating you at tug of war.

Finally someone who gets it! Lol.

 

Sidebar: Frank vs MJ was incredible.

thereas would have made the final on cutthroat if tina didnt rig the elimination round. either blue or grey were going to be the winners of riot shield and at worst that would have ended in paula vs theresa and paula would have lost so i dont think it can be concluded that nia did "better" on her 2nd than theresa on hers.

people gave a hard time to nia for losing to cara maria because there has never been another weight based elimination event where a lighter person wins against a heavier except MJvsfrank or some fluke DQs like Svet vs beth. cara maria is strong but still when you have that many more pounds on somebody people expect you to win with such an "advantage" when all the eliminatino round entails is lugging your weight over your opponents lesser one to a bell.

under very very few circumstances should someone smaller then you be beating you at tug of war.

Finally someone who gets it! Lol.

 

Sidebar: Frank vs MJ was incredible.

That elimination had much more to do with endurance than it did with strength or size.  When you can dig a little hole in the sand for traction and wait the other person out, size becomes much less relevant than it would be in a normal tug of war match.  

And we don't know how Nia finishes on this season, so it's still up in the air as to whether she or Theresa does better on their second challenge.  IMO Theresa hasn't done anything particularly notable on any of her challenges.

they pretty much did play tug of war. the mechanics are all the same. the only difference is they put some poles and some twisted rope there to make it last longer. it was endurance of your opponents WEIGHT so your size absolutely does matter when you are moving  your opponent = moving their weight with your own. zig zagging the rope and adding a few poles isnt going to change the the basic physics of the goal which is to move another object towards the direction of the bell. the type of generic endurance independant of weight you are talking about is utilized in something like "the elevator" where your opponents weight has absoutely no relation or impact on your own performance.

the sand thing is moot. nia had just as much sand as cara maria to dig through if she wanted. its not like one was running on ice and the other on sand. there was no advantage or additional traction given to anyone here. i also have reason to believe that if they utilized the rope then nia probably wouldve lost even quicker because this throws in the upper body strength and nia does not look like the type of girl that has upper body strength, especially compared to cara maria who has always been pretty good in that aspect.

under most circumstances you shouldnt be losing to somebody vastly smaller than you in tug of war or some variation of it

the comparison between nia's 2nd and theresa's 2nd is silly and completely incongruent anyways considering the difference in format, opponents, team members, missions, and every other single factor. with that logic you could attempt to compare theresas first challenge where she almost made it to the end to nia on her first where she almost made it past episode 3 but again, cant be done for a variety of reasons.

a comparison can be made in this challenge though since theyre together. we are at the halfway mark and so far wes/theresa have been 1, 2 in practically every challenge. at this point i think its pretty difficult to make a case for best female outside of sarah or theresa

Eh, whenever a challenge lasts 90 minutes, it has as much to do with endurance as it does with strength IMO.  Physics can't account for the mental toughness required to do that.  I don't think people should fault Nia for losing after that long, regardless of who her opponent is.

 

Tori would have definitely beaten Theresa if they went head to head. Just like Tyler would have most likely beat Johnny alone. The outcomes would have been the same without CT/Tina.

Tori would have definitely beaten Theresa if they went head to head. Just like Tyler would have most likely beat Johnny alone. The outcomes would have been the same without CT/Tina.


Theresa is much bigger than Tori.....

Tori would have definitely beaten Theresa if they went head to head. Just like Tyler would have most likely beat Johnny alone. The outcomes would have been the same without CT/Tina.

Theresa is much bigger than Tori.....

Tori is also a good competitor

Eh, whenever a challenge lasts 90 minutes, it has as much to do with endurance as it does with strength IMO.  Physics can't account for the mental toughness required to do that.  I don't think people should fault Nia for losing after that long, regardless of who her opponent is.

 

it doesnt matter if it lasts 90 minutes because  you are still pulling against your opponents weight which is why its completely inaccurate to say that weight doesnt matter when it matters all NINETY minutes of the way.

endurance has nothing to do with physical ability and has everything to do with some mental toughness ? thats silly. endurance is just power or strength extended over a longer period of time. its not some kind of magical phenomenon and it is absolutely just as physical as it is "mental" because your mental state is deteremined by your physical state. you dont start feeling defeated at the last quarter of a marathon because its your "mind"...you feel defeated because your BODY IS GETTING BUSTED UP. kenyans and east africans have a monopoly on endurance running. why? beacuse they are physically cultivated to be ideal in such activities.

youre not even applying the right definition of endurance here because youre not including the PULLING ON EACH OTHER motion and even with your generic application of endurance its all wrong anyways by sayig its all mental.

you proabbly think that jonna would have an equal chance against nia or laurel in that game because its all about endurance and mentality and jonna has so much of it.

youre denying basic law of physics and with all due respect, youre wrong when you say weight doesnt have a significant bearing

Eh, whenever a challenge lasts 90 minutes, it has as much to do with endurance as it does with strength IMO.  Physics can't account for the mental toughness required to do that.  I don't think people should fault Nia for losing after that long, regardless of who her opponent is.

 

it doesnt matter if it lasts 90 minutes because  you are still pulling against your opponents weight which is why its completely inaccurate to say that weight doesnt matter when it matters all NINETY minutes of the way.

endurance has nothing to do with physical ability and has everything to do with some mental toughness ? thats silly. endurance is just power or strength extended over a longer period of time. its not some kind of magical phenomenon and it is absolutely just as physical as it is "mental" because your mental state is deteremined by your physical state. you dont start feeling defeated at the last quarter of a marathon because its your "mind"...you feel defeated because your BODY IS GETTING BUSTED UP. kenyans and east africans have a monopoly on endurance running. why? beacuse they are physically cultivated to be ideal in such activities and it has little to do with being mentally tougher.

youre not even applying the right definition of endurance here because youre not including the PULLING ON EACH OTHER motion and even with your generic application of endurance its all wrong anyways by sayig its all mental.

you proabbly think that jonna would have an equal chance against nia or laurel in that game because its all about endurance and mentality and jonna has so much of it.

youre denying basic law of physics and its just flat out wrong

Endurance doesn't correlate with size.  I'm a small, thin guy but I would consider my endurance to be better than most big guys I know.

Do you run long races?  Because I do, and your mental state is often independent of your physical state.   Kenyans dominate long distance running because it's a part of their culture just as much as they do because of physical advantages.  When you run to school, run with friends, do it because it's the best way to make a living in your country, it's not all dependent on your physical capabilities.

Endurance doesn't correlate with size.  I'm a small, thin guy but I would consider my endurance to be better than most big guys I know.

Do you run long races?  Because I do, and your mental state is often independent of your physical state

you have more endurance because you have less body weight to carry. so yes, endurance is absolutely correlated with size. the GENERIC long distance running you are trying to talk about is INVERSELY proportional to size meaning the smaller you are the easier it will be.

the problem here is youre trying to apply that concept of endurance to what cara maria and nia were doing which is totally and utterly competely wrong because they werent carrying their own body weights. they were carrying their own + the opponents. so cara was pulling her weight AND nia's. nia was pulling her weight AND cara's, guess who should win? doesnt take a physicist genius.

 if you think its all about mental state then dont run another mile for the next 4 years, put yourself through something mentally strenuous such as med school, run in the next marathon and tell me how you do.

Kenyans dominate long distance running because it's a part of their culture just as much as they do because of physical advantages.  When you run to school, run with friends, do it because it's the best way to make a living in your country, it's not all dependent on your physical capabilities.

so basically theyre PHYSICALLY running and conditioning all the time(resulting in increased cardiovascular respiration, more numerous refinement of slow twitch muscles) because its part of their culture but this somehow means that theyre only winning because its "all in the head" lol. you make 0 sense

Endurance doesn't correlate with size.  I'm a small, thin guy but I would consider my endurance to be better than most big guys I know.

Do you run long races?  Because I do, and your mental state is often independent of your physical state

you have more endurance because you have less body weight to carry. so yes, endurance is absolutely correlated with size. the GENERIC long distance running you are trying to talk about is INVERSELY proportional to size meaning the smaller you are the easier it will be.

the problem here is youre trying to apply that concept of endurance to what cara maria and nia were doing which is totally and utterly competely wrong because they werent carrying their own body weights. they were carrying their own + the opponents. so cara was pulling her weight AND nia's. nia was pulling her weight AND cara's, guess who should win? doesnt take a physicist genius.

 if you think its all about mental state then dont run another mile for the next 4 years, put yourself through something mentally strenuous such as med school, run in the next marathon and tell me how you do.

I never said it's all about mental state.  I said mental state is significant, but I never said it's everything.  I'll give you the physics argument; unlike you, I never took physics 101.  But to suggest that endurance has no involvement in an elimination that lasted 90 minutes is ridiculous.  As you said, the elimination was about extending strength over a long period of time.

And the fact that you think the mental strength I'm talking about has anything to do with being intelligent is laughable.  

Kenyans dominate long distance running because it's a part of their culture just as much as they do because of physical advantages.  When you run to school, run with friends, do it because it's the best way to make a living in your country, it's not all dependent on your physical capabilities.

so basically theyre PHYSICALLY running and conditioning all the time(resulting in increased cardiovascular respiration, more numerous refinement of slow twitch muscles) because its part of their culture but this somehow means that theyre only winning because its "all in the head" lol. you make 0 sense

Running is arguably the most mental sport there is.  If you're raised in a culture that encourages shutting down the discomforts, both physical and mental, of running, you're obviously going to be superior for reasons independent of training a lot.

youre not getting it. you are MISAPPLYING LONG DISTANCE ENDURANCE.

cara was not ONLY pulling her own weight...she was pulling NIA'S

that seems to be the point that you seem to miss. we can talk all day about whether its endurance or long bearing pain or strength extended over a long period of time, or mental strength or whatever magical emotions you seem to try to adhere to this situation but the point you seem to miss is the underlined above. none of those stupid terms matter

go ahead strap on a 10 pound weight the next time you run and then a 45lb weight the next day and tell me that the second one is only more difficult beacue its all "mental"

actually you know what, lets take a step back because you seem to think weight doesnt matter at ALL so first youre going to have to try to convince me that the 45lb weight is no more difficult than the 10lb lol. once we get past that then we can get into the i can do anything if i set my mind to it its all mental hurr durr argument

 

youre not getting it. you are MISAPPLYING LONG DISTANCE ENDURANCE.

cara was not ONLY pulling her own weight...she was pulling NIA'S

that seems to be the point that you seem to miss. we can talk all day about whether its endurance or long bearing pain or strength extended over a long period of time, or mental strength or whatever magical emotions you seem to try to adhere to this situation but the point you seem to miss is the underlined above. none of those stupid terms matter

go ahead strap on a 10 pound weight the next time you run and then a 45lb weight the next day and tell me that the second one is only more difficult beacue its all "mental"

actually you know what, lets take a step back because you seem to think weight doesnt matter at ALL so first youre going to have to try to convince me that the 45lb weight is no more difficult than the 10lb lol. once we get past that then we can get into the i can do anything if i set my mind to it hurr durr argument

 

Clearly you're not reading my posts, because I made very clear that I don't think running, or eliminations, or any type of sport are entirely mental.  Please don't give me this durr hurr bullshit when you're too careless or unintelligent to make sense of my posts.  If you seriously think that elimination or running has NOTHING to do with mental fitness (which is what you seem to be suggesting), then there's no point in discussing this.

Bye.

nah i never said mental has nothing to do with this. i said mental is relational to how much physical training or capability you have. its not some thing that magically sprouts out of your *** completely isolated from your physical abilities.

you just make 0 sense and dont know what youre talking about and im getting tired of of your density and twilight zone logic

regardless of how much you want to break the laws of physics, somebody that weighs as much as nia is always going to be harder to push, pull, hold up, carry, etc. than somebody that weighs as much as cara. your stupid endurance mental **** doesnt change this

bye

Although I appreciate your critique of my intelligence and argumentation abilities, your rhetoric skills aren't great either.  I would recommend taking a writing class next semester, seeing as you already know everything there is to know about physics.

i dont need to take a writing class because i can speak four other languages outside of english, three of which are the polar opposite in terms of structure, writing, order and grammar to english. as long as i can understand the logic(or lack of) of your arguments then im fine. not knowing perfect english isnt going to kill me...on the other hand not knowing that a heavier object has more weight might end up in your injury in the future if you attempt to disregard the law of physics by chalking the capabilities and wearing potential of your bones, blood, muscle and flesh up to "mental" and "all in my head"

besides it doesnt take a physics phD to realize that pulling  a heavier object is going to be harder than pulling a lighter

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