I wouldn't consider Leroy to be one of the top people when it comes to vet entitlement.
He's never been as bad as the others; it's why people couldn't stand him. He'd let everyone walk all over him.
Ehhh--early on he was great and never complained but as it went on he became more and more entitled
That said, Tony & Cara were 100% wrong with how they treated him on Vendettas. Especially Tony for freaking out over Leroy being real with him at deliberation.
Agreed. Tony and Cara were fked up for how they treated Leroy. Cara chose a man she just met over Leroy, and Tony acted like lil bi t ch because Leroy said he shouldn't have to plead his case to vets he's known for years. Leroy was right.
People actually find devin funny? There really is a pot dot every lid.
the way all the challenge social medias had people commenting "hey Josh, what's 8x9" as if it was the most hilarious thing they've ever heard... the average IQ of this show's audience has to be pretty low
People actually find devin funny? There really is a pot dot every lid.
the way all the challenge social medias had people commenting "hey Josh, what's 8x9" as if it was the most hilarious thing they've ever heard... the average IQ of this show's audience has to be pretty low
They also said CT was funny for digging out a wedgie on camera on wotw2.
People actually find devin funny? There really is a pot dot every lid.
the way all the challenge social medias had people commenting "hey Josh, what's 8x9" as if it was the most hilarious thing they've ever heard... the average IQ of this show's audience has to be pretty low
What making this final means for each player's legacy:
Melissa: Making her 2nd final in 4 legitimate tries, Melissa will continue to be regarded as a strong competitor (as she has been on every season she's done besides TM that had a stacked female cast). She's the only one of the original 5 UK competitors that is still getting cast (Joss, Kyle, Kayleigh & Rogan being the others), and she is a pretty iconic character that has multiple memorable moments every season she does. She's known for her fiery spirit, in particular her fights with Kam, Josh, Kailah & Ravyn (+ probably DaVonne) will all be memorable for a long time. She's gone from average to good/great. The only stronger girls to debut after her would be Jenny, Dee, Ninja, Kaycee & Bayleigh. She will be a threat moving forwards and could potentially win a season.
Nicole: With her 5th straight appearance never having been eliminated, Nicole has proven to consistently be a great competitor. However, she is not top tier because she has one big hole in her game (any type of puzzle). Otherwise, Nicole plays a great political game, has elite endurance and is a physical specimen. She's one of the best daily challenge competitors of all time and has only been in elimination a few times across 5 seasons (all by default or choice). As a character, Nicole is aggravating but entertaining. She is authentically annoying and reaction-provoking. Despite being regarded as an idiot, Nicole has a solid shot at winning a season in 2/3 types of final formats (pairs/teams), and she is extremely likely to make a final. A potential future champion.
Frank: This would be Frank's 4th straight appearance without having been eliminated. Frank has the most actively effective political game that i've seen from almost any male competitor recently. Because of this, he is always very likely to make a final, as he can avoid eliminations that he would be favoured against (physical matchups against bigger guys). He is also one of the most entertaining and iconic (and toxic) character's on the men's side. He could potentially solidify himself in the lower end of the Top 10 male competitors list after this season, and IF he chooses to do more seasons, has the ability to win again.
Sam: Sam's 2nd final in a row would be very impressive on paper, and pretty notable for her. However, it would hold almost as much weight as Devyn's 2 combined final appearances do for me if Sam doesn't win this season. I also don't see Sam doing well in the future as she lacls connections and I don't have faith in her individual ability, as I have yet to be impressed by her in any facet of the game. As a character, she was not boring on Seasons, but not very notable/memorable. I also don't know how likely she is to be cast again or wanting to play again. Of this group, I expect her to be the most forgettable upon a return.
Adam: Admittedly, I have not seen his Road Rules season or his original run on the show, so I can't speak to his overall legacy but he was an average competitor on AS4 (probably the 5th best performing guy after Steve/Leroy/Derek/Jay), which actually isnt too impressive given it was a weak cast. However, he seems like someone who knows how to play the political side of the game and doesn't have any major holes to his game unlike the men listed above. As a character, he is kinda a hypocrite/******* which can make for entertaining television. I think he is as likely as not to win a season, he would have to reach the end with worse teams/competitors (which he is able to do this time around bc of the mixed gender format), which I dont have complete faith in him to do.
Steve: 2nd final in a row for Steve, I would say he's a pretty decent competitor. I will say that I think people overrate him, as his elimination wins on AS4 weren't too impressive to me aside from the sheer number he won, and he kinda stunk it up in the dailies all season. He does do well under pressure, and we saw him put up a strong final performance because of that. However, I only ever see him doing well when he is competing against women (like he did on AS4/5), as he is not great in dailies and he is a social pariah. As a character, he can be funny and likeable with his one-liners, but at times forgettable and irrelevant. I don't think he's likely to win in the future.
DaVonne: Definitely the most iconic character of these 8 (which is a huge compliment because she's competing with Shane/Frank/Melissa), she is very authentically captivating on TV. Her 3 season run is also very notable, with 3 deep runs and continuously overperforming when underestimated (making it deep on FR, beating Dee in WOTW and winning the opening challenge & making this final). DaVonne is very strong and pretty smart, but her social game is often limited. I think she has the brains and connections to make another final, but I don't see her ever doing well in overly physically challenge individual challenges or finals, which I think is the most important aspect in determining a player's ability.
Shane is an underrated and decent competitor and a great political player. He is very conniving and smart (which can at times come off as sleazy). I'm honestly still a little unsure about his chances on future seasons, as I feel this was a very niche cast and i'm not sure if he would generally have the connections he did this time going forwards (Adam, Veronica & lavendar ladies). I think Shane often needs a strong alliance to make it deep in the game, as physical eliminations aren't his forte. So I would say like Adam, he is as likely as not to win a season. I definitely see him attempting again if he loses this one. As a character, he is pretty iconic but also a bit of an *******, which is again good television.
melissa even didn't do bad on total madness at all, she consistently came in 2nd/3rd in almost every daily and always came up slightly short. i think she 's slightly above average and this season will determine a true ranking for her
Devin is a horrible addition to the show. He is dull and always was. He also doesn't seem like the person to be on a dating show so that's that. Devin isn't endearing or funny nor is he attractive. Y'all must be smoking ***** and smelly cracks to really believe that man is funny.
Devin is a horrible addition to the show. He is dull and always was. He also doesn't seem like the person to be on a dating show so that's that. Devin isn't endearing or funny nor is he attractive. Y'all must be smoking ***** and smelly cracks to really believe that man is funny.
he's insufferable and i can smell him throught he screen
devin tori aneesa josh.. that whole crowd is the epitome of bland and unfunny. like even when they are in drama it feels fake or just has this aura of flatness, if that makes sense. like nothing they've ever done has ever gagged me
People actually find devin funny? There really is a pot dot every lid.
the way all the challenge social medias had people commenting "hey Josh, what's 8x9" as if it was the most hilarious thing they've ever heard... the average IQ of this show's audience has to be pretty low
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it was funny because it was Josh and he had no idea--generally speaking, it wouldn't be funny by "humor" or "comedy" is about timing
devin tori aneesa josh.. that whole crowd is the epitome of bland and unfunny. like even when they are in drama it feels fake or just has this aura of flatness, if that makes sense. like nothing they've ever done has ever gagged me
You just don't like them. They play to a segment of the audience. Even Josh who I believe is the worst casting decision of all-time has an audience.
Aneesa's been on nonstop for over 2 decades--claiming she is bland doesn't make sense. She would have been survived this long. When did you start watching--a year ago?
devin tori aneesa josh.. that whole crowd is the epitome of bland and unfunny. like even when they are in drama it feels fake or just has this aura of flatness, if that makes sense. like nothing they've ever done has ever gagged me
You just don't like them. They play to a segment of the audience. Even Josh who I believe is the worst casting decision of all-time has an audience.
Aneesa's been on nonstop for over 2 decades--claiming she is bland doesn't make sense. She would have been survived this long. When did you start watching--a year ago?
there's many cast members i dislike but wouldn't say the same about them. kailah, nelson, tony, shane... etc. never been a fan but still have entertainment value and i'd rather have them on the show than not for the sake of entertainment.
i'm sure they do play to a segment of the audience.. i don't like that audience either and think they are partially responsible for why the show sucks now. so now what
Omg, I'm on the same side as KVM. Not sure what that says about me. Anyways, I'm not on crack and am pretty smart. I think Devin is funny. Sue me. I also like Aneesa, Tori, and Fessy, and love Josh. To each their own.
People actually find devin funny? There really is a pot dot every lid.
He's not as bad as people make him out to be--he's just on too much and does well so everyone claims he's awful
Agreed. Tony and Cara were fked up for how they treated Leroy. Cara chose a man she just met over Leroy, and Tony acted like lil bi t ch because Leroy said he shouldn't have to plead his case to vets he's known for years. Leroy was right.
I mean yes. Who else is funny on this show? I'm one of the few none VA haters.
Seems like there won't be a vacation alliance after the events of 40/All Stars 5
the way all the challenge social medias had people commenting "hey Josh, what's 8x9" as if it was the most hilarious thing they've ever heard... the average IQ of this show's audience has to be pretty low
He's never made me laugh, even johnny is funnier than him.
They also said CT was funny for digging out a wedgie on camera on wotw2.
You would think leroy woulda gotten a win already when's been on 15 seasons
Johnny in his early days was funny. Now he is more of a do u che than funny to me. I think Wes, Devin, and Zach are funny.
The way I laughed more at Katelynn's confessionals then I ever had at Devin says A LOT
It doesn't say that much since you're not the brightest.
calling me dumb bc I don't gag or giggle over funky äșš Devin oh I've seen it all lmaooo
I didn't say I was spitting out my drinking, cracking up over him. It's a low bar anyways.
What making this final means for each player's legacy:
Melissa: Making her 2nd final in 4 legitimate tries, Melissa will continue to be regarded as a strong competitor (as she has been on every season she's done besides TM that had a stacked female cast). She's the only one of the original 5 UK competitors that is still getting cast (Joss, Kyle, Kayleigh & Rogan being the others), and she is a pretty iconic character that has multiple memorable moments every season she does. She's known for her fiery spirit, in particular her fights with Kam, Josh, Kailah & Ravyn (+ probably DaVonne) will all be memorable for a long time. She's gone from average to good/great. The only stronger girls to debut after her would be Jenny, Dee, Ninja, Kaycee & Bayleigh. She will be a threat moving forwards and could potentially win a season.
Nicole: With her 5th straight appearance never having been eliminated, Nicole has proven to consistently be a great competitor. However, she is not top tier because she has one big hole in her game (any type of puzzle). Otherwise, Nicole plays a great political game, has elite endurance and is a physical specimen. She's one of the best daily challenge competitors of all time and has only been in elimination a few times across 5 seasons (all by default or choice). As a character, Nicole is aggravating but entertaining. She is authentically annoying and reaction-provoking. Despite being regarded as an idiot, Nicole has a solid shot at winning a season in 2/3 types of final formats (pairs/teams), and she is extremely likely to make a final. A potential future champion.
Frank: This would be Frank's 4th straight appearance without having been eliminated. Frank has the most actively effective political game that i've seen from almost any male competitor recently. Because of this, he is always very likely to make a final, as he can avoid eliminations that he would be favoured against (physical matchups against bigger guys). He is also one of the most entertaining and iconic (and toxic) character's on the men's side. He could potentially solidify himself in the lower end of the Top 10 male competitors list after this season, and IF he chooses to do more seasons, has the ability to win again.
Sam: Sam's 2nd final in a row would be very impressive on paper, and pretty notable for her. However, it would hold almost as much weight as Devyn's 2 combined final appearances do for me if Sam doesn't win this season. I also don't see Sam doing well in the future as she lacls connections and I don't have faith in her individual ability, as I have yet to be impressed by her in any facet of the game. As a character, she was not boring on Seasons, but not very notable/memorable. I also don't know how likely she is to be cast again or wanting to play again. Of this group, I expect her to be the most forgettable upon a return.
Adam: Admittedly, I have not seen his Road Rules season or his original run on the show, so I can't speak to his overall legacy but he was an average competitor on AS4 (probably the 5th best performing guy after Steve/Leroy/Derek/Jay), which actually isnt too impressive given it was a weak cast. However, he seems like someone who knows how to play the political side of the game and doesn't have any major holes to his game unlike the men listed above. As a character, he is kinda a hypocrite/******* which can make for entertaining television. I think he is as likely as not to win a season, he would have to reach the end with worse teams/competitors (which he is able to do this time around bc of the mixed gender format), which I dont have complete faith in him to do.
Steve: 2nd final in a row for Steve, I would say he's a pretty decent competitor. I will say that I think people overrate him, as his elimination wins on AS4 weren't too impressive to me aside from the sheer number he won, and he kinda stunk it up in the dailies all season. He does do well under pressure, and we saw him put up a strong final performance because of that. However, I only ever see him doing well when he is competing against women (like he did on AS4/5), as he is not great in dailies and he is a social pariah. As a character, he can be funny and likeable with his one-liners, but at times forgettable and irrelevant. I don't think he's likely to win in the future.
DaVonne: Definitely the most iconic character of these 8 (which is a huge compliment because she's competing with Shane/Frank/Melissa), she is very authentically captivating on TV. Her 3 season run is also very notable, with 3 deep runs and continuously overperforming when underestimated (making it deep on FR, beating Dee in WOTW and winning the opening challenge & making this final). DaVonne is very strong and pretty smart, but her social game is often limited. I think she has the brains and connections to make another final, but I don't see her ever doing well in overly physically challenge individual challenges or finals, which I think is the most important aspect in determining a player's ability.
Shane is an underrated and decent competitor and a great political player. He is very conniving and smart (which can at times come off as sleazy). I'm honestly still a little unsure about his chances on future seasons, as I feel this was a very niche cast and i'm not sure if he would generally have the connections he did this time going forwards (Adam, Veronica & lavendar ladies). I think Shane often needs a strong alliance to make it deep in the game, as physical eliminations aren't his forte. So I would say like Adam, he is as likely as not to win a season. I definitely see him attempting again if he loses this one. As a character, he is pretty iconic but also a bit of an *******, which is again good television.
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katelynn is a queen
melissa even didn't do bad on total madness at all, she consistently came in 2nd/3rd in almost every daily and always came up slightly short. i think she 's slightly above average and this season will determine a true ranking for her
She is! My point was that she has dry humor and not a lot of ppl find that humorous, but she's 10x funnier than that try-hard Devin could ever be
Devin is a horrible addition to the show. He is dull and always was. He also doesn't seem like the person to be on a dating show so that's that. Devin isn't endearing or funny nor is he attractive. Y'all must be smoking ***** and smelly cracks to really believe that man is funny.
he's insufferable and i can smell him throught he screen
devin tori aneesa josh.. that whole crowd is the epitome of bland and unfunny. like even when they are in drama it feels fake or just has this aura of flatness, if that makes sense. like nothing they've ever done has ever gagged me
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it was funny because it was Josh and he had no idea--generally speaking, it wouldn't be funny by "humor" or "comedy" is about timing
You shouldn't be laughing at someone for being utterly pathetic.
You just don't like them. They play to a segment of the audience. Even Josh who I believe is the worst casting decision of all-time has an audience.
Aneesa's been on nonstop for over 2 decades--claiming she is bland doesn't make sense. She would have been survived this long. When did you start watching--a year ago?
there's many cast members i dislike but wouldn't say the same about them. kailah, nelson, tony, shane... etc. never been a fan but still have entertainment value and i'd rather have them on the show than not for the sake of entertainment.
i'm sure they do play to a segment of the audience.. i don't like that audience either and think they are partially responsible for why the show sucks now. so now what
Omg, I'm on the same side as KVM. Not sure what that says about me. Anyways, I'm not on crack and am pretty smart. I think Devin is funny. Sue me. I also like Aneesa, Tori, and Fessy, and love Josh. To each their own.
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