The Challenge: All Stars 4 - Spoilers Discussion

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im shook at these spoilers lol.

yes im bumping deal with it

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ok i finally got time to get most of the updates i think.

~ I was glad to see Brandon & Jay back as random returns. I never watched Kefla so I cant wait to see his screen presence,~ I am glad Tony will leave early asf, never been a fan or found him entertaining.

~ Janelle is one of my faves and I hate that she quits, esp since spoiler team feels like the altercation and reasoning will be watered down or not shown at all.~ On that subject Im disappointed in Ayanna I did find her amazing on All Stars 2, and she wasnt even a bad competitor, but if she really tried to argue with all the black folks on some weird shit I cant respect it. Lolz at her having to go against Rachel, when Rachel w***upposedly supporting her.~ Brandon vs Leroy had to be set up to breakdown Leroys numbers. I dont see Leroy screwing over someone he lived with for years, but then again he did leave Darrell to dry (in self preservation) on Double Agents, but its not the same imo, I truly dont think Leroy would purposely go against Brandon.

~ I am surprised Kam flipped on Cara with Laurel. I always felt like Kam only viewed Cara as a coworker anyways, and not really like a friend in real life, but whats more surprising to me is the fact that they worked with Laurel. I remember Leroy explaining why he no longer considered Laurel a friend after Vendettas and said shes a really shitty person. And then Kam and her butted heads on WOTW 2, But I think Kam and Laurel are both smart enough to know their beef wasnt deep enough to not play a smart game together.

~ I feel like Veronica probably played a similar game to her D30 game. On that season she was one of the only ones trying to really utitilize the format to her advantage. It would be smart of her to remind people how they should want her in the final and to not touch her star because she isnt a threat, I feel like she probably played this up. Also for some reason, outside of Cara probably wanting revenge, I feel like Veronica had a major part in  Kam vs Cara, im prob wrong tho. 

~ I wasnt expecting Adam to make it this far, and ive never liked him lmao. He was an *** on The Gauntlet, but a good competitor. I was glad when Derrick sent his *** home on G2, and when Abram attempted to punch him. Im excited to see what Jay and Averey offer. They both seem athletic and only had one real chance at a season (Its hard for me to count or remember Averey on Rivals 3). 

~ Laurel winning solo is alright or whatever, I guess I prefer her winning over Cara or Nicole, but I do wish it was one man and one woman. 

Thats all I gathered fr, and im mad they arent airing this before USA 2. Didnt the first 3 all stars have super late premiere dates in terms of when they filmed as well? 

I have to see it air, which it most likely won't, but all those people (Brandon, Leroy, Janelle, and Kam) are questionable. You see she didn't get into it with Kefla & Tyrie. I think I know why it went up, but I don't wanna open those floodgates here. 

Questionable lol

Ayanna not gelling with those four does make sense.

And I'm not going to say who was right or wrong because we don't know the topic of discussion.

I will say whatever happened with Kam and Ayanna seems to be why Brandon and Leroy got involved, rather than any direct issue.

 

 

 

im shook at these spoilers lol.

yes im bumping deal with it

Is this your first time looking? Give your thoughts!!

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ok i finally got time to get most of the updates i think.

~ I was glad to see Brandon & Jay back as random returns. I never watched Kefla so I cant wait to see his screen presence,~ I am glad Tony will leave early asf, never been a fan or found him entertaining.

~ Janelle is one of my faves and I hate that she quits, esp since spoiler team feels like the altercation and reasoning will be watered down or not shown at all.~ On that subject Im disappointed in Ayanna I did find her amazing on All Stars 2, and she wasnt even a bad competitor, but if she really tried to argue with all the black folks on some weird shit I cant respect it. Lolz at her having to go against Rachel, when Rachel w***upposedly supporting her.~ Brandon vs Leroy had to be set up to breakdown Leroys numbers. I dont see Leroy screwing over someone he lived with for years, but then again he did leave Darrell to dry (in self preservation) on Double Agents, but its not the same imo, I truly dont think Leroy would purposely go against Brandon.

~ I am surprised Kam flipped on Cara with Laurel. I always felt like Kam only viewed Cara as a coworker anyways, and not really like a friend in real life, but whats more surprising to me is the fact that they worked with Laurel. I remember Leroy explaining why he no longer considered Laurel a friend after Vendettas and said shes a really shitty person. And then Kam and her butted heads on WOTW 2, But I think Kam and Laurel are both smart enough to know their beef wasnt deep enough to not play a smart game together.

~ I feel like Veronica probably played a similar game to her D30 game. On that season she was one of the only ones trying to really utitilize the format to her advantage. It would be smart of her to remind people how they should want her in the final and to not touch her star because she isnt a threat, I feel like she probably played this up. Also for some reason, outside of Cara probably wanting revenge, I feel like Veronica had a major part in  Kam vs Cara, im prob wrong tho. 

~ I wasnt expecting Adam to make it this far, and ive never liked him lmao. He was an *** on The Gauntlet, but a good competitor. I was glad when Derrick sent his *** home on G2, and when Abram attempted to punch him. Im excited to see what Jay and Averey offer. They both seem athletic and only had one real chance at a season (Its hard for me to count or remember Averey on Rivals 3). 

~ Laurel winning solo is alright or whatever, I guess I prefer her winning over Cara or Nicole, but I do wish it was one man and one woman. 

Thats all I gathered fr, and im mad they arent airing this before USA 2. Didnt the first 3 all stars have super late premiere dates in terms of when they filmed as well? 

I have to see it air, which it most likely won't, but all those people (Brandon, Leroy, Janelle, and Kam) are questionable. You see she didn't get into it with Kefla & Tyrie. I think I know why it went up, but I don't wanna open those floodgates here. 

open them.

I will say whatever happened with Kam and Ayanna seems to be why Brandon and Leroy got involved, rather than any direct issue.

right, I could be wrong but didnt pink say ayanna was harping on kam for days until those two started taking up for kam? 

Ayanna seems like someone who would follow you around and poke at you so I can see it. Hope it airs as unedited as possible because it was real conversations but I also don't trust production and the casual fan feedback to understand those conversations. 

I'm riding for Ayanna idgaf

I can predict the future Smile

The wait for this is ridiculous. And the way they're gonna edit it down is gonna make it awful.

The wait for this is ridiculous. And the way they're gonna edit it down is gonna make it awful.

Yeah, I'm confused the delay. Not sure why the keep pumping out the seasons they are unhappy with and holding on to the one good one they have and like. I know the Ayanna drama will be edited out cause the "real" part of the show is dead because of stupid cancel culture fans. But I'm probably dumbly naive in thinking they'll leave in the other drama. Just praying we get Flora eating up Cara!

Avery works at hooters.  

Avery works at hooters.  

Duh lol

Kam, Leroy, Veronica, Ryan, and Nicole were all at Marie's baby shower

It really does seem like the entire house was friendly with the exception of Cara lol

I think Cara is in Italy with Paulie. 

I think Cara is in Italy with Paulie. 

Hopefully they get detained there permanently.

Super rich legend Lindsay taking her private jet to Paraflop headquaters to demand they release AS4!

Kam, Leroy, Veronica, Ryan, and Nicole were all at Marie's baby shower

It really does seem like the entire house was friendly with the exception of Cara lol

Cara knew Marie was pregnant, I just don't think she could make it.

I saw this as a Vendettas reunion over AS4, but both apply.

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Kam, Leroy, Veronica, Ryan, and Nicole were all at Marie's baby shower

It really does seem like the entire house was friendly with the exception of Cara lol

Cara knew Marie was pregnant, I just don't think she could make it.

I saw this as a Vendettas reunion over AS4, but both apply.

I didn't really mean it like "everyone is hanging out without Cara," just that it seems like the majority of the cast is friendly. I really do think if Cara wasn't on this cast it would've been boring 

 

 

Kam, Leroy, Veronica, Ryan, and Nicole were all at Marie's baby shower

It really does seem like the entire house was friendly with the exception of Cara lol

Cara knew Marie was pregnant, I just don't think she could make it.

I saw this as a Vendettas reunion over AS4, but both apply.

I didn't really mean it like "everyone is hanging out without Cara," just that it seems like the majority of the cast is friendly. I really do think if Cara wasn't on this cast it would've been boring 

Fair point.

It sounds like Cara v. the House and Ayanna were the major drama of the season.

But, I'd be shocked if Laurel didn't get into it with someone other than Cara.

Ayanna seems like someone who would follow you around and poke at you so I can see it. Hope it airs as unedited as possible because it was real conversations but I also don't trust production and the casual fan feedback to understand those conversations. 

I thought I recall that's exactly what happened. Ayanna was following Kam around the house harassing her which caused Brandon and Leroy to step in. 

Avery works at hooters and likes her job a lot

Kefla works at KM high school and likes his job a lot

Now you know the reason this is delayed is because production is having a hard time editing out all the drama and trying to create fake storyline's to explain Janelle's departure. They are really having to get creative. We won't see any of the Ayanna/Kam drama. There's going to be a lot of holes that will likely ruin the season. That's the main problem with this show is you can't deliver entertainment anymore. It'll all be edited out. Ayanna worked overtime for her pay check and for nothing. This isn't the 2000s anymore where drama is what production looks for, they frown upon it. 

if Svetlana was on this WOULDVE been out sooner

If she's not on All Stars 5, cancel it asap. 

if Svetlana was on this WOULDVE been out sooner

The tea I just heard lmaoolk

The tea I just heard lmaoolk

ok spill?

The tea I just heard lmaoolk

Spill we've been in a DROUGHT

The tea I just heard lmaoolk

You've done this like 4 times here and then never reveal, quit doing us dirty lol. Is it good tea or bad tea for the OG purist still leaving in the nostalgic glory days?

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