Skye Tragic and Elmer Glue need to take a back seat for All-Stars and let me and Potato cast and produce this. We'll even do it for free and they can keep their salary.
I know I'm hypocritical with my hating some bores and stanning others. I like bores with charisma though and Holly has that. She was perfect on Inferno because she brought a light heartedness to a heavy drama season. She kept it from being too dark. The show needs the balance of the 2. And she brings a good competitiveness but not in a boring way. She gets emotional and upset about losing. We've had Roni and she was cool but we have to alternate the random boring OG and it's Holly's turn!
boring people were always essential when it came to balanced casting. id hate this show if it was full of loud personalities.
Agreed. They were good at finding a good balance back in the day. Now they are all just boring or uncomfortably cringe. Sigh, we'll never have another Coral, Julie, Tonya, Veronica, or Katie.
Katie is not the same as any of those ladies. You put Julie, Coral, Veronica on any season and they are sure to deliver and will be stars of that season. Katie is hit or miss, though usually a miss with how often she blends in with the background on most seasons. It's clear that she prefers it since she only shines when people are gunning for her or when she's having a personal conflict with someone. Gauntlet 2, FM, Duel 2, Cutthroat, All Stars 2, etc. she was a snooze.
Holly could come back for a season if she wanted to, I'm fine with that because I do think she can compete.
Katie and Veronica, while legendary personalities, simply don't have the ability to compete at any level anymore. Katie is a episode 3-4 boot every season and Veronica is an episode 6-7 boot. I wish them well but it's time to retire. Same with Beth.
Holly could come back for a season if she wanted to, I'm fine with that because I do think she can compete.
Katie and Veronica, while legendary personalities, simply don't have the ability to compete at any level anymore. Katie is a episode 3-4 boot every season and Veronica is an episode 6-7 boot. I wish them well but it's time to retire. Same with Beth.
Umm...Veronica did well on All-Stars 3. She's not going to win clearly but she can ******
I would have liked to see holly on with kendal and yes but I have a feeling neither are on. Could be interesting without them though, she will definitely be targeted if she has no friends there and I can see her being a force in elimination against the other women
Holly could come back for a season if she wanted to, I'm fine with that because I do think she can compete.
Katie and Veronica, while legendary personalities, simply don't have the ability to compete at any level anymore. Katie is a episode 3-4 boot every season and Veronica is an episode 6-7 boot. I wish them well but it's time to retire. Same with Beth.
Veronica could make a final. Probably would have on AS3 if she didn't fall.
Holly could come back for a season if she wanted to, I'm fine with that because I do think she can compete.
Katie and Veronica, while legendary personalities, simply don't have the ability to compete at any level anymore. Katie is a episode 3-4 boot every season and Veronica is an episode 6-7 boot. I wish them well but it's time to retire. Same with Beth.
Veronica could make a final. Probably would have on AS3 if she didn't fall.
I think if Steve would have been smart and got the house to vote in Jasmine, Katie might have stayed around longer. She looked like she she was in good shape.
Yes, Katie was in shape for All Stars 2 and could have won that elimination against other players. But her 4 foot 11 self ain't winning a weight lifting competition against Ayanna of all people.
Also LOL @ calling her a snooze on Cutthroat and AS2? Her conflict with Ty and the Blue team were compelling, especially since we saw her get emotional when talking about it with Brandon--maybe the first time in her 9 flagship seasons that we saw her cry? And her heights meltdown on AS2 ~PROVIDED~ too, cussing out production and TJ. Check that~
Katie was boring on G2 and Duel 2 for the most part. She did create drama just for air time. When she was mad she was herself. When things went fine she was calm.
I would have liked to see holly on with kendal and yes but I have a feeling neither are on. Could be interesting without them though, she will definitely be targeted if she has no friends there and I can see her being a force in elimination against the other women
Season 5 needs to he be Kendal, Holly S, Tori H, Kellyanne, Nia, Katie, and Raquel! Queendal is coming with allies on her return!
Katie was boring on G2 and Duel 2 for the most part. She did create drama just for air time. When she was mad she was herself. When things went fine she was calm.
Duel 2, she didn't do anything but also wasn't there long. G2, she had drama with David but they fought off camera. Does she even want to do Allstars? Katie sounded done officially after season 2.
Skye Tragic and Elmer Glue need to take a back seat for All-Stars and let me and Potato cast and produce this. We'll even do it for free and they can keep their salary.
Nope...disagree completely but I was talking RW/RR cast more than random people like Turbo
Lol I wish they would have voted Matt off before David. Didn't care for Matt for his comments to the women on his team.
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She looks good.
is that her man? He's kinda hot. But not surprised she has a pretty good personality.
Dream cast (realistic-ish): Rachel, Veronica, Tina, Katie, Coral, Roni, Jillian, Lori, Ayanna, Julie, Susie, Anne.
And then some men.
Holly Shand would send Laurel home in record time. Trust and believe it.
She'd dominate
She honestly would. She would provide nothing else tho. The athletic non dramatic spot will probably go to Jodi, even tho Jodi had drama last time.
id rather have Roni personally.
I know I'm hypocritical with my hating some bores and stanning others. I like bores with charisma though and Holly has that. She was perfect on Inferno because she brought a light heartedness to a heavy drama season. She kept it from being too dark. The show needs the balance of the 2. And she brings a good competitiveness but not in a boring way. She gets emotional and upset about losing. We've had Roni and she was cool but we have to alternate the random boring OG and it's Holly's turn!
boring people were always essential when it came to balanced casting. id hate this show if it was full of loud personalities.
Agreed. They were good at finding a good balance back in the day. Now they are all just boring or uncomfortably cringe. Sigh, we'll never have another Coral, Julie, Tonya, Veronica, or Katie.
Katie is not the same as any of those ladies. You put Julie, Coral, Veronica on any season and they are sure to deliver and will be stars of that season. Katie is hit or miss, though usually a miss with how often she blends in with the background on most seasons. It's clear that she prefers it since she only shines when people are gunning for her or when she's having a personal conflict with someone. Gauntlet 2, FM, Duel 2, Cutthroat, All Stars 2, etc. she was a snooze.
Katie is authentic. Gotta love her:) Today's girls could never relate.
Holly could come back for a season if she wanted to, I'm fine with that because I do think she can compete.
Katie and Veronica, while legendary personalities, simply don't have the ability to compete at any level anymore. Katie is a episode 3-4 boot every season and Veronica is an episode 6-7 boot. I wish them well but it's time to retire. Same with Beth.
Umm...Veronica did well on All-Stars 3. She's not going to win clearly but she can ******
Katie was going deep in season 2 if they didnt leave her harnessed up for 2 hours dinner techincal difficulties which resulted in a panic attack.
Well ****. She looks like she'll snap these girls like a twig with those legs.
I was mad as **** Holly Shand got rejected for All Stars. I liked her. Bring her on.
Just give me Jasmine and Averey and I'm good
I would have liked to see holly on with kendal and yes but I have a feeling neither are on. Could be interesting without them though, she will definitely be targeted if she has no friends there and I can see her being a force in elimination against the other women
Veronica could make a final. Probably would have on AS3 if she didn't fall.
I think if Steve would have been smart and got the house to vote in Jasmine, Katie might have stayed around longer. She looked like she she was in good shape.
Yes, Katie was in shape for All Stars 2 and could have won that elimination against other players. But her 4 foot 11 self ain't winning a weight lifting competition against Ayanna of all people.
Also LOL @ calling her a snooze on Cutthroat and AS2? Her conflict with Ty and the Blue team were compelling, especially since we saw her get emotional when talking about it with Brandon--maybe the first time in her 9 flagship seasons that we saw her cry? And her heights meltdown on AS2 ~PROVIDED~ too, cussing out production and TJ. Check that~
Katie was boring on G2 and Duel 2 for the most part. She did create drama just for air time. When she was mad she was herself. When things went fine she was calm.
Season 5 needs to he be Kendal, Holly S, Tori H, Kellyanne, Nia, Katie, and Raquel! Queendal is coming with allies on her return!
I'm gonna neee Holly B and Holly S to come back and dominate the girls. They'd make Cara Maria and Laurel look like Shauvon.
Holly would be zzzzz just like Kendal and we'll be complaining about her in no time if she comes back
you'll* be complaining. I'd never complain about either of my Holly's.
Duel 2, she didn't do anything but also wasn't there long. G2, she had drama with David but they fought off camera. Does she even want to do Allstars? Katie sounded done officially after season 2.
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