I see both sides of this...if Michelle wins the next HOH she's going after Nicole--especially if Paul goes home this week. If Nicole takes out Michelle then Victor/Paul will target James/Natalie and vise-versa. But she can't beat Paul in the end. To leave him in is just short-sighted. You play to win. window.post_1472348272264_6 = function(win,msg){ win.postMessage(msg,"*"); } window.post_1472348278424_16 = function(win,msg){ win.postMessage(msg,"*"); }
People are underestimating Nicole's game and she has an excellent chance in the end, especially if she isn't sitti next to Corey because that's another vote for her. James will vote for her as long as she's not next to Natalie, and Paulie is going to vote for her too. That's three votes if she's sitting next to Paul or Victor. I highly doubt the jury would vote for Victor after being evicted twice, sure he came back twice too, but competition wins don't make a great player.
Nicole has never been on the block, has now won three comps, and if she makes the final chances are she will have won another comp or two. I honestly think Nicole and Paul both deserve to win equally at this point and more than anybody else.
I think getting Paul out may be smartest for Nicole though. Sure, Michelle is targeting her if she wins HOH but Michelle will have a one in five shot at winning. Victor would together James/Natalie, James and Natlie would target Victor again, Corey would target whoever.
I can definitely see it being beneficial if Michelle were to leave, Paul/Victor and Natalie/James targeting each other, but Paul is so unpredictable when it comes to where his head is at. I see a lot of similarities between his game and Nicole's.
Victor can't play to win. He's playing for second. A great lay up if you ask me.
Victor is most likely to win if he makes a final. Day has helped his *** twice.
I would be absolutely shocked if anybody ever won after being evicted twice and having an awful social game. Competition beast does not equal a great player, whatsoever. I can't see him getting more than two votes from the jury against anybody.
I would be absolutely shocked if anybody ever won after being evicted twice and having an awful social game. Competition beast does not equal a great player, whatsoever. I can't see him getting more than two votes from the jury against anybody.
Evicted twice but has beat everyone eliminated minus Frank to return in the game. Depending on who's he in the final with I can see him winning. I doubt any of the girls will vote for Nicole is she makes final or Cory.
I see both sides of this...if Michelle wins the next HOH she's going after Nicole--especially if Paul goes home this week. If Nicole takes out Michelle then Victor/Paul will target James/Natalie and vise-versa. But she can't beat Paul in the end. To leave him in is just short-sighted. You play to win.
I think it's better long term for her to get Michelle out this week. You get out Paul this week then next week it's Corey vs James/Natalie/Michelle with Victor playing the wildcare and unless Corey wins one of those two is going home. Victor/Paul want to be loyal so you can use them to get to final five and then you cut them.
I would be absolutely shocked if anybody ever won after being evicted twice and having an awful social game. Competition beast does not equal a great player, whatsoever. I can't see him getting more than two votes from the jury against anybody.
Evicted twice but has beat everyone eliminated minus Frank to return in the game. Depending on who's he in the final with I can see him winning. I doubt any of the girls will vote for Nicole is she makes final or Cory.
I don't even think Victor's comp wins are all that impressive. He beat a scrub (Jozea), I'll give him credit for beating Bronte and Tiffany, Da'Vonne and Zakiyah voluntarily left the endurance comp, Bridgett has a bum leg, and I will give credit for beating Paulie this last comp too. He's won two HOHs, a RoadKill, and one Veto. It drives me nuts when Victor says he has eight comp wins because if more than two people were playing in all the Battle Back comps, he probably wouldn't have won them all.
My whole point is that I could never vote for someone who's been evicted twice because of ****** social gameplay. Nothing wrong with your opinion though. I do agree though, I think the girls are a little bitter towards Nicole and don't realize how great of a game she's played.
I never said she wouldn't beat Victor. Vic can't beat anyone IMO. At least he shouldn't. Id never consider voting for someone that had been evicted once let alone twice
I see both sides of this...if Michelle wins the next HOH she's going after Nicole--especially if Paul goes home this week. If Nicole takes out Michelle then Victor/Paul will target James/Natalie and vise-versa. But she can't beat Paul in the end. To leave him in is just short-sighted. You play to win.
I think it's better long term for her to get Michelle out this week. You get out Paul this week then next week it's Corey vs James/Natalie/Michelle with Victor playing the wildcare and unless Corey wins one of those two is going home. Victor/Paul want to be loyal so you can use them to get to final five and then you cut them.
James will NEVER target Nicole so neither would Natalie. What your saying is best for the guys minus James not Nicole
kvm1977 wrote:I see both sides of this...if Michelle wins the next HOH she's going after Nicole--especially if Paul goes home this week. If Nicole takes out Michelle then Victor/Paul will target James/Natalie and vise-versa. But she can't beat Paul in the end. To leave him in is just short-sighted. You play to win.
I think it's better long term for her to get Michelle out this week. You get out Paul this week then next week it's Corey vs James/Natalie/Michelle with Victor playing the wildcare and unless Corey wins one of those two is going home. Victor/Paul want to be loyal so you can use them to get to final five and then you cut them.
James will NEVER target Nicole so neither would Natalie. What your saying is best for the guys minus James not Nicole
Except they wouldn't have a choice their only options to nominate would be Michelle/Victor/Nicole/Corey, Natalie won't let James nominate Michelle so that leaves Victor and one of the two. Victor wins POV one of them is going home and even if he doesn't i still see one of them going becuase it would be smart to break up a couple.
For the record I believe James and Nicole have played insanely well I just don't know if these houseguests are smart enough to see it
James has played a terrible game, and has no shot at winning. His only move has been getting Frank evicted. He didn't want to evict Z or Paulie except Natalie emotionally blackmailed him into doing it. If he had his way both of them would still be in the game especially since he had a preshow deal with Paulie, just like the one he has with Nicole.
Who could nat win against beside Corey? But I agree with James/Nicole gameplay. Nicole better then James. Nicole has been a target the whole game and has yet to be on the block because every time she talks her way out. And James well he only has a social game people like him which is why he has been safe but like he didn't do anything impressive besides getting Frank out. Other revenue that he does what the house tells him to do. It's still impressive though neither have been on the block, especially since they are vets
Who could nat win against beside Corey? But I agree with James/Nicole gameplay. Nicole better then James. Nicole has been a target the whole game and has yet to be on the block because every time she talks her way out. And James well he only has a social game people like him which is why he has been safe but like he didn't do anything impressive besides getting Frank out. Other revenue that he does what the house tells him to do. It's still impressive though neither have been on the block, especially since they are vets
James has gotten so far due to his alliances. He came in with the Vets alliance which turned into the 8 Pack, then when that broke up he had the guys alliance where Paulie made himself public enemy number one, and he also had Natalie watching out for him and she had her friends on their side too (Bridgett, Bronte, Michelle). If anything, I think James has gotten lucky.
Paul has played a good overall game, Nicole has played a good overall game, Victor has played a decent competitive game, Michelle has played ok, Corey has been alright but in the same boat as James, pretty lucky, and James and Natalie have been lucky and not playing very well.
Corey is the least deserving. He has literally done nothing. I mean he can't even manage to get confessionals
Corey has won a couple comps, and his social game has been pretty good too. He was best friends with a guy who ran the house for half the game, and when that guy was targeted he still managed to stay on good terms with everybody. Honestly when an athletic guy has a better social game than physical game, it can be a huge advantage.
I like victor as a player but there's 0 reason why someone who's been voted out twice already deserves to win. 1 time is alright cause bb seems to like buy backs too much and its basically part of the game lmao but two times? Cmon.
Corey is the least deserving. He has literally done nothing. I mean he can't even manage to get confessionals
Corey has won a couple comps, and his social game has been pretty good too. He was best friends with a guy who ran the house for half the game, and when that guy was targeted he still managed to stay on good terms with everybody. Honestly when an athletic guy has a better social game than physical game, it can be a huge advantage.
i don't think Corey is really athletic and he has no social game he just had paulie. Nobody is theeatened by Corey which is why he hasn't been going home but he will soon. His 3 comp wins were jokes, the ice cream one veto. The double hoh (everyone was pathetic in it I mean only took 2 questions) and his veto win during the double which caters to tall people I mean Bridgette could hardly get over the hurdles, he could just walk over it
Lol James has played so much better than you guys are willing to admit
Willing to admit? Yeah cause our lives revolve around tearing down certain BB houseguest's games...
James hasn't done much of anything... He came in with strong pre-season alliances, joined strong alliances throughout the season, and his showmance had her friends watch his back too. Those are all decent accomplishments but otherwise he hasn't done a thing. He's not playing a good social game because he hasn't orchestrated much, he hasn't schemed or made the big decisions, and he hasn't talked his way into or out of anything. He's gotten lucky because he's a likable guy and people wanted to align with him. He has done nothing on his own to deserve $500,000.
Lol James has played so much better than you guys are willing to admit
Willing to admit? Yeah cause our lives revolve around tearing down certain BB houseguest's games...James hasn't done much of anything... He came in with strong pre-season alliances, joined strong alliances throughout the season, and his showmance had her friends watch his back too. Those are all decent accomplishments but otherwise he hasn't done a thing. He's not playing a good social game because he hasn't orchestrated much, he hasn't schemed or made the big decisions, and he hasn't talked his way into or out of anything. He's gotten lucky because he's a likable guy and people wanted to align with him. He has done nothing on his own to deserve $500,000.
How has he not schemed or made big decisions? He used the carepackage better than anyone as of yet with his decision to take out Z instead of Michelle. He also had all the power last week to take out Corey or Vic after convincing Natalie to work with Nicorey because that was better for his game in the long run. He could have just rode with alliances that were in power but he's constantly worked out ways to work with others. He's the primary reason the guys alliance fell apart. He's yet to see the block...that's impressive as a returning player with a target on your back from the very beginning. Now, him trusting Nicole enough to throw her the last HOH might come back and bite him in the *** but to say he hasn't scheme or had to make any big decisions is just false.
And, yes, some people here having nothing better to do than refuse to give credit to players that they don't like.
kvm1977 wrote:Lol James has played so much better than you guys are willing to admit
Willing to admit? Yeah cause our lives revolve around tearing down certain BB houseguest's games...James hasn't done much of anything... He came in with strong pre-season alliances, joined strong alliances throughout the season, and his showmance had her friends watch his back too. Those are all decent accomplishments but otherwise he hasn't done a thing. He's not playing a good social game because he hasn't orchestrated much, he hasn't schemed or made the big decisions, and he hasn't talked his way into or out of anything. He's gotten lucky because he's a likable guy and people wanted to align with him. He has done nothing on his own to deserve $500,000.
How has he not schemed or made big decisions? He used the carepackage better than anyone as of yet with his decision to take out Z instead of Michelle. He also had all the power last week to take out Corey or Vic after convincing Natalie to work with Nicorey because that was better for his game in the long run. He could have just rode with alliances that were in power but he's constantly worked out ways to work with others. He's the primary reason the guys alliance fell apart. He's yet to see the block...that's impressive as a returning player with a target on your back from the very beginning. Now, him trusting Nicole enough to throw her the last HOH might come back and bite him in the *** but to say he hasn't scheme or had to make any big decisions is just false.And, yes, some people here having nothing better to do than refuse to give credit to players that they don't like.
Except it was not his decision and he did not want to do it but Natalie forced him to do it, saying that was his decision is completely ignoring all evidence. And he had the power last week and used it terribly by waffling on who he was going to evict and lying to Victor and Paul all week so now neither those two or Nicorey trust him. And telling Nicorey that Natalie wanted Corey evicted last week wasn't the greatest move either.
Telling everyone Natalie wanted to keep Victor was a major mistake but James gets full credit fir taking out Z. He doesn't take orders from Natalie. Him being constantly worried about winning AFOPs a valid criticism but he has absolutely played a solid game. Throwing the HOH was a huge mistake and I wouldn't have done it knowing he made the idiotic comment about Natalie wanting to keep Vic. Far from a perfect game but no one this year has played anything close to perfect.
Victor can't play to win. He's playing for second. A great lay up if you ask me.
People are underestimating Nicole's game and she has an excellent chance in the end, especially if she isn't sitti next to Corey because that's another vote for her. James will vote for her as long as she's not next to Natalie, and Paulie is going to vote for her too. That's three votes if she's sitting next to Paul or Victor. I highly doubt the jury would vote for Victor after being evicted twice, sure he came back twice too, but competition wins don't make a great player.
Nicole has never been on the block, has now won three comps, and if she makes the final chances are she will have won another comp or two. I honestly think Nicole and Paul both deserve to win equally at this point and more than anybody else.
I think getting Paul out may be smartest for Nicole though. Sure, Michelle is targeting her if she wins HOH but Michelle will have a one in five shot at winning. Victor would together James/Natalie, James and Natlie would target Victor again, Corey would target whoever.
I can definitely see it being beneficial if Michelle were to leave, Paul/Victor and Natalie/James targeting each other, but Paul is so unpredictable when it comes to where his head is at. I see a lot of similarities between his game and Nicole's.
Victor is most likely to win if he makes a final. Day has helped his *** twice.
I would be absolutely shocked if anybody ever won after being evicted twice and having an awful social game. Competition beast does not equal a great player, whatsoever. I can't see him getting more than two votes from the jury against anybody.
Evicted twice but has beat everyone eliminated minus Frank to return in the game. Depending on who's he in the final with I can see him winning. I doubt any of the girls will vote for Nicole is she makes final or Cory.
I think it's better long term for her to get Michelle out this week. You get out Paul this week then next week it's Corey vs James/Natalie/Michelle with Victor playing the wildcare and unless Corey wins one of those two is going home. Victor/Paul want to be loyal so you can use them to get to final five and then you cut them.
I don't even think Victor's comp wins are all that impressive. He beat a scrub (Jozea), I'll give him credit for beating Bronte and Tiffany, Da'Vonne and Zakiyah voluntarily left the endurance comp, Bridgett has a bum leg, and I will give credit for beating Paulie this last comp too. He's won two HOHs, a RoadKill, and one Veto. It drives me nuts when Victor says he has eight comp wins because if more than two people were playing in all the Battle Back comps, he probably wouldn't have won them all.
My whole point is that I could never vote for someone who's been evicted twice because of ****** social gameplay. Nothing wrong with your opinion though. I do agree though, I think the girls are a little bitter towards Nicole and don't realize how great of a game she's played.
I never said she wouldn't beat Victor. Vic can't beat anyone IMO. At least he shouldn't. Id never consider voting for someone that had been evicted once let alone twice
Paul wins if he makes F2
James will NEVER target Nicole so neither would Natalie. What your saying is best for the guys minus James not Nicole
For the record I believe James and Nicole have played insanely well I just don't know if these houseguests are smart enough to see it
Except they wouldn't have a choice their only options to nominate would be Michelle/Victor/Nicole/Corey, Natalie won't let James nominate Michelle so that leaves Victor and one of the two. Victor wins POV one of them is going home and even if he doesn't i still see one of them going becuase it would be smart to break up a couple.
James has played a terrible game, and has no shot at winning. His only move has been getting Frank evicted. He didn't want to evict Z or Paulie except Natalie emotionally blackmailed him into doing it. If he had his way both of them would still be in the game especially since he had a preshow deal with Paulie, just like the one he has with Nicole.
Who could nat win against beside Corey? But I agree with James/Nicole gameplay. Nicole better then James. Nicole has been a target the whole game and has yet to be on the block because every time she talks her way out. And James well he only has a social game people like him which is why he has been safe but like he didn't do anything impressive besides getting Frank out. Other revenue that he does what the house tells him to do. It's still impressive though neither have been on the block, especially since they are vets
Nat beats james
James has gotten so far due to his alliances. He came in with the Vets alliance which turned into the 8 Pack, then when that broke up he had the guys alliance where Paulie made himself public enemy number one, and he also had Natalie watching out for him and she had her friends on their side too (Bridgett, Bronte, Michelle). If anything, I think James has gotten lucky.
Paul has played a good overall game, Nicole has played a good overall game, Victor has played a decent competitive game, Michelle has played ok, Corey has been alright but in the same boat as James, pretty lucky, and James and Natalie have been lucky and not playing very well.
My order of deserving to win:
Paul and Nicole
Victor
Michelle
Corey
Natalie
James
Victor is least deserving to win. One vote out ok but coming back twice lolz.
Corey is the least deserving. He has literally done nothing. I mean he can't even manage to get confessionals
Corey has won a couple comps, and his social game has been pretty good too. He was best friends with a guy who ran the house for half the game, and when that guy was targeted he still managed to stay on good terms with everybody. Honestly when an athletic guy has a better social game than physical game, it can be a huge advantage.
I like victor as a player but there's 0 reason why someone who's been voted out twice already deserves to win. 1 time is alright cause bb seems to like buy backs too much and its basically part of the game lmao but two times? Cmon.
i don't think Corey is really athletic and he has no social game he just had paulie. Nobody is theeatened by Corey which is why he hasn't been going home but he will soon. His 3 comp wins were jokes, the ice cream one veto. The double hoh (everyone was pathetic in it I mean only took 2 questions) and his veto win during the double which caters to tall people I mean Bridgette could hardly get over the hurdles, he could just walk over it
Okay Corey isn't winning again anyone. Just imagining his final 2 speech is killing my brain cells.
Lol James has played so much better than you guys are willing to admit
Willing to admit? Yeah cause our lives revolve around tearing down certain BB houseguest's games...
James hasn't done much of anything... He came in with strong pre-season alliances, joined strong alliances throughout the season, and his showmance had her friends watch his back too. Those are all decent accomplishments but otherwise he hasn't done a thing. He's not playing a good social game because he hasn't orchestrated much, he hasn't schemed or made the big decisions, and he hasn't talked his way into or out of anything. He's gotten lucky because he's a likable guy and people wanted to align with him. He has done nothing on his own to deserve $500,000.
How has he not schemed or made big decisions? He used the carepackage better than anyone as of yet with his decision to take out Z instead of Michelle. He also had all the power last week to take out Corey or Vic after convincing Natalie to work with Nicorey because that was better for his game in the long run. He could have just rode with alliances that were in power but he's constantly worked out ways to work with others. He's the primary reason the guys alliance fell apart. He's yet to see the block...that's impressive as a returning player with a target on your back from the very beginning. Now, him trusting Nicole enough to throw her the last HOH might come back and bite him in the *** but to say he hasn't scheme or had to make any big decisions is just false.
And, yes, some people here having nothing better to do than refuse to give credit to players that they don't like.
James can't play a good game cause he's too busy trying to win AFP lmao.
Except it was not his decision and he did not want to do it but Natalie forced him to do it, saying that was his decision is completely ignoring all evidence. And he had the power last week and used it terribly by waffling on who he was going to evict and lying to Victor and Paul all week so now neither those two or Nicorey trust him. And telling Nicorey that Natalie wanted Corey evicted last week wasn't the greatest move either.
So glad I resisted spoilers for this week. James..... dang it man. It was supposed to be Nicorey and Jatalie.Nicole.... ya done ****** it up
Telling everyone Natalie wanted to keep Victor was a major mistake but James gets full credit fir taking out Z. He doesn't take orders from Natalie. Him being constantly worried about winning AFOPs a valid criticism but he has absolutely played a solid game. Throwing the HOH was a huge mistake and I wouldn't have done it knowing he made the idiotic comment about Natalie wanting to keep Vic. Far from a perfect game but no one this year has played anything close to perfect.
Corey, victor, nat are in the lead with 2 letters.... James has zero
Victor won and he wants James gone. He told nat that she is not his target this week. Corey and Nicole are worried they will get backstabed
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