The Ruins: Kelly Anne Judd - MTV

[QUOTE=ahappycamper;155533]It doesn't matter how "hard" the game was because both Rachel and Robin were playing the exact same game. It's not as if KA had to sit on sticks while Rachel and Robin had to sit on spikes. They were ALL sitting on sticks. They all had the same difficulty level. The difficulty level of that game was relative to the players involved. Obviously it would've been an easy game had KA been competing against Casey and Shauvon, but she was not. The task was to BEAT THE OTHER PLAYERS, the other players being Rachel(great competitor) and Robin(good competitor straight from Rachel's mouth). Rachel was practically crying at the end of that elimination, she said that she was using "every single muscle" to hold herself up. The game is only as "hard" as the players involved. It wasn't just a mission chosen out of the random. It was a mission that was very similar to that particular Ruins. Both involve having lots of strength and having the ability to overpower the opponents so it makes complete sense that if Susie AND her two partners Ibis and Johanna(all these chicks probably weigh MORE than KA) had trouble overpowering KA by herself, then Susie by herself with a rope would probably fare even worse. Well that's impressive that Susie is undefeated but it's not VERY impressive when you look at the people she's battled and the games and circumstances that were involved. She has beaten, Casey Angel Kim Bri and Jenn, because she got her ring/hook stuck. Her average time per ring/hook was actually FASTER than Susie's average if you disregard the one she got stuck on for 5 minutes. That win is comparable to Syrus vs Cohutta. Neither of those are really impressive wins. On the other hand, Rachel Veronica Robin is definitely the more impressive list. I mean even Susie herself says so.[/QUOTE] Susie has beaten 5 girls and Kelly Anne 3 hmmmm? Kim and Jenn are both way better than Robin and Veronica, what the heck has Veronica and Robin done to make them impressive wins if you beat them? And you didn't mention KA would've been beat by Ev which would've basically been because Kelly Anne doesn't have a strong social game at all which is an important part of the game too, I mean her own team wanted to get rid of her. And again just because Kelly Anne put up a good fight against Susie, Ibis, and Johanna in a challenge doesn't mean she could beat Susie in a Ruin which requires you to hold on to a rope and go where ever that rope goes. I don't know for sure or care who would win in that Ruin between Susie and Kelly Anne, but if I had to choose who would win I would choose Susie in that Ruin. And if they went up against each other in say a speed Ruin I would definitely choose Kelly Anne to win.

[QUOTE=ahappycamper;155533]It doesn't matter how "hard" the game was because both Rachel and Robin were playing the exact same game. It's not as if KA had to sit on sticks while Rachel and Robin had to sit on spikes. They were ALL sitting on sticks. They all had the same difficulty level. The difficulty level of that game was relative to the players involved. Obviously it would've been an easy game had KA been competing against Casey and Shauvon, but she was not. The task was to BEAT THE OTHER PLAYERS, the other players being Rachel(great competitor) and Robin(good competitor straight from Rachel's mouth). Rachel was practically crying at the end of that elimination, she said that she was using "every single muscle" to hold herself up. The game is only as "hard" as the players involved. It wasn't just a mission chosen out of the random. It was a mission that was very similar to that particular Ruins. Both involve having lots of strength and having the ability to overpower the opponents so it makes complete sense that if Susie AND her two partners Ibis and Johanna(all these chicks probably weigh MORE than KA) had trouble overpowering KA by herself, then Susie by herself with a rope would probably fare even worse. [B]Well that's impressive that Susie is undefeated but it's not VERY impressive when you look at the people she's battled and the games and circumstances that were involved. [/B] [B]She has beaten,[/B] [B]Casey[/B] [B]Angel[/B] [B]Kim[/B] [B]Bri[/B] [B]and Jenn[/B] [B]One of those wins were close calls(Bri).[/B] [B]Two of those wins had to do with overpowering some smaller 80lb chick(Kim and Angel). [/B] [B]One of those wins is similar to Syrus vs Cohutta in the sense that a freak out possibly made the opponent lose. Jenn had her hook and ring stuck for a very long time. If you disregard the ring/hook that Jenn got stuck on, you will see that her average per ring is actually FASTER than Susie's average per ring.[/B] [B]Neither of those are really impressive wins. [/B] [B]On the other hand, [/B] [B]Rachel[/B] [B]Veronica[/B] [B]Robin[/B] [B]Two of those wins(Rachel and Robin) had no room for fluke, no excuses, no one had the advantage, no strategy involved, therefore it was purely physical.[/B] [B]One of those wins was a landslide. KA hit her gong before Veronica even got to the platform.[/B] [B]KA's track record has definitely been more impressive. Susie even says so herself.[/B][/QUOTE] And again you're also not mentioning the fact that Kelly Anne lost her and Sarah the final mission on the Ruins because she took so long balancing and walking on the bamboo sticks. And I don't care how Susie wins the fact is she wins and she has beaten more people than Kelly Anne and won more challenges overall also, but I'll be fair and give Kelly Anne some more time to win some challenges, but so far she's 0-2.

guys, let's stop this dispute unless we see KA vs Susie face off and figure out who's stronger

[QUOTE=Get_me_gone;155538]guys, let's stop this dispute unless we see KA vs Susie face off and figure out who's stronger[/QUOTE] I agree 100%, this debate is pointless and I'm done with it.

Susie was scared to face Kelly Anne not vice versa. So really that tells me my answer.

[QUOTE=asamber1;155549]Susie was scared to face Kelly Anne not visa versa. So really that tells me my answer.[/QUOTE] I don't think scared was the correct word to use. She had a lot more to lose then KA.

Susie is NOT undefeated. She lost to Angel in Viewer's Revenge.That was an embarassment. You know the girl remembered for calling Kina a "transvestite?"

[QUOTE=bernielomax;155797]Susie is NOT undefeated. She lost to Angel in Viewer's Revenge.That was an embarassment. You know the girl remembered for calling Kina a "transvestite?"[/QUOTE] That wasn't a challenge.

[QUOTE=RMD1;155794]I don't think scared was the correct word to use. She had a lot more to lose then KA.[/QUOTE] She had a lot more to lose than Kim as well but she had no problem going up against her. Susie....and the rest of the other girls, Veronica, Johanna, etc. have all made it clear that KA was the last person they would choose to go up against.

You know what? Susie's a fraud, that's what I think. She just bullies people until she has to go in against weak competitors.

Anyone can say what they want about Susie. The fact remains she wins challenges and Kelly Anne doesn't.

[QUOTE=Adrian!!!!!!;155536]Susie has beaten 5 girls and Kelly Anne 3 hmmmm? Kim and Jenn are both way better than Robin and Veronica, what the heck has Veronica and Robin done to make them impressive wins if you beat them? And you didn't mention KA would've been beat by Ev which would've basically been because Kelly Anne doesn't have a strong social game at all which is an important part of the game too, I mean her own team wanted to get rid of her. And again just because Kelly Anne put up a good fight against Susie, Ibis, and Johanna in a challenge doesn't mean she could beat Susie in a Ruin which requires you to hold on to a rope and go where ever that rope goes. I don't know for sure or care who would win in that Ruin between Susie and Kelly Anne, but if I had to choose who would win I would choose Susie in that Ruin. And if they went up against each other in say a speed Ruin I would definitely choose Kelly Anne to win.[/QUOTE] No offense, but a lot of your points are contradicting and you always seem to miss my point so I'm not really going to bother anymore. I'll leave it with this, Susie HERSELF said that KA would most likely beat her in a Ruin.

[QUOTE=ahappycamper;155264] [B]While Ev clearly dominated KA in their ruin, it should also be noted that KA did win the first round fair and square by pulling Ev down. A feat that not many chicks can accomplish[/B].[/QUOTE] I'd encourage you to contact both ladies via facebook (KA) and Myspace (Eve). They will tell you what they know to be the facts. Eve threw KA around like a rag doll but allowed her to win round one. It was her plan before she even stepped foot on the platform. Then in round two Eve clearly demonstrated her complete physical domination. Round three was her clear ** to her team for what at the time she considered to be both stupid an outrageous behavior. People who don't know the cast members, yet pontificate on their relative physical abilities, really don't elevate the discourse.

[QUOTE=V1man;155817]I'd encourage you to contact both ladies via facebook (KA) and Myspace (Eve). They will tell you what they know to be the facts. Eve threw KA around like a rag doll but allowed her to win round one. It was her plan before she even stepped foot on the platform. Then in round two Eve clearly demonstrated her complete physical domination. Round three was her clear ** to her team for what at the time she considered to be both stupid an outrageous behavior. People who don't know the cast members, yet pontificate on their relative physical abilities, really don't elevate the discourse.[/QUOTE] if you go straight to the sources they will all say that kelly anne rounded out the females on the challengers. here's a quote straight from evelyn herself, verbatim If I was going to rank the other girls: 2. KellyAnne 3. Diem 4. Sarah 5. Tonya 6. Susie 7. Kim 8. Veronica 9. Brianna 10. Johanna 11. Katie 12. Ibis 13. Shauvon 14. Casey susie is not even considered second, third or even fourth by miss Ev. she is considered 6th.

nice rank. though #5 beated #3 in 1st ruin. huh i bet KA is considered second 'coz they are BFF with miss Ev. I'm not saying this rank is pointless, i just think her friends have advantage in this list

[QUOTE=Get_me_gone;155840]nice rank. though #5 beated #3 in 1st ruin. huh i bet KA is considered second 'coz they are BFF with miss Ev. I'm not saying this rank is pointless, i just think her friends have advantage in this list[/QUOTE] It was said many times that Diem lost that on purpose. She had conflicting events going on back home.

[QUOTE=llegitfernal;155838]if you go straight to the sources they will all say that kelly anne rounded out the females on the challengers. here's a quote straight from evelyn herself, verbatim If I was going to rank the other girls: 2. KellyAnne 3. Diem 4. Sarah 5. Tonya 6. Susie 7. Kim 8. Veronica 9. Brianna 10. Johanna 11. Katie 12. Ibis 13. Shauvon 14. Casey susie is not even considered second, third or even fourth by miss Ev. she is considered 6th.[/QUOTE] Quoting my previous comment make no sense, since I was only addressing the specific KA/Eve "Ruin" event. I made no reference to Susie. Please edit better next time.

I was wondering what would have happened if Kelly Anne did face Susie that's pretty close. I believe in Kelly Anne I think she was the strongest girl on the challengers team and she a future great competitor.

[QUOTE=bernielomax;156644]Why is Ho-hanna even on that list? She's not a good competitor. She's a whiner, a coward, and a *******. [/QUOTE] Because she was a cast member on the Ruins, just like everyone else on that list.

[QUOTE=molds13;156646]Because she was a cast member on the Ruins, just like everyone else on that list.[/QUOTE] well, how do we know she could beat casey or shauvon?

[QUOTE=bernielomax;156648]well, how do we know she could beat casey or shauvon?[/QUOTE] My mother could beat Casey or Shauvon. Johanna's not the best competitor, but she's not useless like those two. Either way, this thread is about Kelly Anne.

[QUOTE=V1man;155854]Quoting my previous comment make no sense, since I was only addressing the specific KA/Eve "Ruin" event. I made no reference to Susie. Please edit better next time.[/QUOTE] That says that ahappycamper and llegitfernal was probably the same person with multiple accounts. LOL !

[QUOTE=bernielomax;156644]She's not a good competitor. She's a whiner, a coward.[/QUOTE] While one might make some sort of case that some of what you allege regarding Johanna might contain some elements of truth, I know all three women and can readily state without offense to either Casey or Shauvon, that Johanna could kick their ***** in her sleep. But, to keep this post in good favor with my mod friends, I'll also add that Kelly Anne has matured as a competitor. She learned a lot about herself and how to play the game during The Ruins. She has the ability to be the kind of player some once hoped Svetlana would be.

Yeah Kelly Anne reminds me of Svetlana on Duel 1 and how far she made it being a rookie. I love Kelly Anne way better tho I hope she comes back. Svetlana didn't come back and I think its too late for her come back cuz she will end up like Veronica.

Kelly Anne is great competetor and a great character. Love her or hate her, she entertains you. She reminds a lot of a younger Tonya.

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;156739]Kelly Anne is great competetor and a great character. Love her or hate her, she entertains you. She reminds a lot of a younger Tonya.[/QUOTE] I hope for her sake she doesn't end up like older Tonya.

[QUOTE=CharR;156807]I hope for her sake she doesn't end up like older Tonya.[/QUOTE] Do you know Tonya personally? If not... please be nice.

Briefly speaking of Tonya, who I've talked to on Twitter, she seems to have things well in hand. Back on to KA, she's better at the game than she is given credit for. Hopefully, her and Ev are on the same next time or they will constantly be pitted against each other by JEK.

sometimes when I watch some of these dailies, KellyAnne looks like a psycopath with all her weird twitches and faceial expressons. Oh my god. Did you see her crying? I don't think I've ever seen something so nasty in my life.

[QUOTE=thamsenman;160817]sometimes when I watch some of these dailies, KellyAnne looks like a psycopath with all her weird twitches and faceial expressons. [B]Oh my god. Did you see her crying? I don't think I've ever seen something so nasty in my life.[/B][/QUOTE] Amber Siyavus from [I]Big Brother 8[/I] has her and everyone in the universe beat in that category...