[QUOTE=GJTGJT;291434]Watching this, I feel like I've hit rock bottom. They can't even reunion fight right. You will never see Zach or Ashley on a challenge at least, worst castmembers ever.[/QUOTE]
I was asleep and woke up right when it came on. Probably should have went back to sleep (...too late now).
Disappointing...much like the entire season.
[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;291436]Zach can be salvaged but Ashley has no shot. Zach said the only reason he went on The Real World was to be on Challenges so maybe he will be different in a competitive environment.[/QUOTE]
Zach may have to wait awhile. They seem to like creating/having theme-based (Rivals, Ex's, etc..) RW/RR challenges at the moment.
I cant wait to see Zach on a challenge, him being on Real World only to be on Challenges means to me this dudes gonna be a beast, and him wanting to team with CT that would makes me wanna see him on their more. The Thor-Wolverine Alliance
[QUOTE=erodwhtboy;291452]I cant wait to see Zach on a challenge, him being on Real World only to be on Challenges means to me this dudes gonna be a beast, and him wanting to team with CT that would makes me wanna see him on their more. The Thor-Wolverine Alliance[/QUOTE]
I can't see it, they sell challenges on drama, in the reunion, all he talked about was how he didn't want to be there. I just can't imagine a casting director watching his attitude in the reunion and thinking "if we get him on a challenge, he'll make good TV". And I agree, just awful. I would like to see C.T. break him in 2, though.
[QUOTE=GJTGJT;291454]I can't see it, they sell challenges on drama, in the reunion, all he talked about was how he didn't want to be there. I just can't imagine a casting director watching his attitude in the reunion and thinking "if we get him on a challenge, he'll make good TV". And I agree, just awful. I would like to see C.T. break him in 2, though.[/QUOTE]
Zach said he may be more willing to be in an unstoppable alliance with CT instead.
[QUOTE=GJTGJT;291454][B]I can't see it, they sell challenges on drama, in the reunion, all he talked about was how he didn't want to be there. I just can't imagine a casting director watching his attitude in the reunion and thinking "if we get him on a challenge, he'll make good TV".[/B] And I agree, just awful. I would like to see C.T. break him in 2, though.[/QUOTE]
I disagree with that, why bring in Sarah from the Brooklyn season then? And what about Derek from Cancun? Zach was involved in more drama than those two combined. I could definitely see him on a challenge.
[QUOTE=GJTGJT;291454]I can't see it, they sell challenges on drama, in the reunion, all he talked about was how he didn't want to be there. I just can't imagine a casting director watching his attitude in the reunion and thinking "if we get him on a challenge, he'll make good TV". And I agree, just awful. I would like to see C.T. break him in 2, though.[/QUOTE]
Yeah they'll def have Zach on a challenge just because dudes a beast. Id like to see him face Frank too and rip that little ****** in half. Zach is probably the only one on this season that can make an impact on a challenge.
[QUOTE=erodwhtboy;291457]Yeah they'll def have Zach on a challenge just because dudes a beast. Id like to see him face Frank too and rip that little ****** in half. Zach is probably the only one on this season that can make an impact on a challenge.[/QUOTE]
A beast, he seems more like a guy who works out a lot to be pretty to me. Doubt he'd do much but whine. And his social game as most talk about, is completely non existant. What I don't get about you folks is what world you live in, everybody in the house can't stand Zach and hangs out with Frank, tough to tell who the ******* was, lmao. I know MTV is trying to sell Zach and Ashley because they are pretty, but anyone with a brain can see he's pretty unredeemable as a TV personality. I haven't seen so many housegueats hate someone and have a bunch of people act like they were great people.
[QUOTE=GJTGJT;291458]A beast, he seems more like a guy who works out a lot to be pretty to me. Doubt he'd do much but whine. And his social game as most talk about, is completely non existant. What I don't get about you folks is what world you live in, everybody in the house can't stand Zach and hangs out with Frank, tough to tell who the ******* was, lmao. I know MTV is trying to sell Zach and Ashley because they are pretty, but anyone with a brain can see he's pretty unredeemable as a TV personality. I haven't seen so many housegueats hate someone and have a bunch of people act like they were great people.[/QUOTE]
You know he played wide receiver for his college football team? He ran a 4.6 40 yard (faster than noor), and weighs 220 lbs. I'm expecting him to be impressive.
Ashley, I think was a waste of a character and did nothing. Zach, was friends with Nate, roommates with Sam, and seemed cool with Alex. On Derrick's podcast Zach said that the cast saw an early trailer for their season while they were still filming, and once Frank saw that he was being portrayed poorly, started to kiss everyone's *** to make himself look like he has become a better person. Also, Frank's whole deal with how he wanted everyone to be friends, was a nice gesture. Frank has to realize though, not everyone is going to want to be his buddy, especially when he talks behind the person's back, makes fun of the person's girlfriend and gangs up on the person.
[QUOTE=GJTGJT;291458]A beast, he seems more like a guy who works out a lot to be pretty to me. Doubt he'd do much but whine. And his social game as most talk about, is completely non existant. What I don't get about you folks is what world you live in, everybody in the house can't stand Zach and hangs out with Frank, tough to tell who the ******* was, lmao. I know MTV is trying to sell Zach and Ashley because they are pretty, but anyone with a brain can see he's pretty unredeemable as a TV personality. I haven't seen so many housegueats hate someone and have a bunch of people act like they were great people.[/QUOTE]
Did you watch the season Franks a little ***** if I was on the show I would of kicked his *** the first week being the little ****** he was, Zach has more patience than I do. You just wanna hate on the guy like alot of other people but he has more fans than haters, go figure. The dudes an athlete, hes an arena football player, which to me means he more athletic than mostly everyone on these challenge with the exception of maybe CT, who could probably be an NFL linebacker
[QUOTE=GJTGJT;291458]A beast, he seems more like a guy who works out a lot to be pretty to me. Doubt he'd do much but whine. And his social game as most talk about, is completely non existant. What I don't get about you folks is what world you live in, everybody in the house can't stand Zach and hangs out with Frank, tough to tell who the ******* was, lmao. I know MTV is trying to sell Zach and Ashley because they are pretty, but anyone with a brain can see he's pretty unredeemable as a TV personality. I haven't seen so many housegueats hate someone and have a bunch of people act like they were great people.[/QUOTE]
You have to have a social game to survive in a Challenge otherwise, the vets will pick you off (which happens 99.9% of the time). Unless he's on a Challenge with others who haven't been on one before, he wouldn't last a week. Can't see him meshing with anyone being that he's very introverted.
People on this board, like on other sites I'm sure, have their favorites from this season. I just never understood the blind faith some people have/had in Zach and Ashley. From the beginning, imo, there's was/is something off about him (I can't really put my finger on it). She is very, very fake and nothing about her seems real or honest.
That said, I never really cared for them and at certain times, the same can be said about the rest of them.
I don't know why you guys are assuming that Zach doesn't have a social game. He seems like he's good friends with Derrick because they are always tweeting eachother. Zach is a guy's guy. The problem with the Real World, was that there were 4 girls, a guy who is also into sports, and a dude who has different interests than Zach. One of the only people he got along with was Nate, the only other guy with similar interests in the house. On the challenges, there are guys similar to Zach like Derrick, CT, Evan, Mark, Leroy, and Johnny. They are all athletes, and Zach would fit in well with them, because they all have similar intrests.
[QUOTE=jase1;291465]You have to have a social game to survive in a Challenge otherwise, the vets will pick you off (which happens 99.9% of the time). Unless he's on a Challenge with others who haven't been on one before, he wouldn't last a week. Can't see him meshing with anyone being that he's very introverted.
People on this board, like on other sites I'm sure, have their favorites from this season. I just never understood the blind faith some people have/had in Zach and Ashley. From the beginning, imo, there's was/is something off about him (I can't really put my finger on it). She is very, very fake and nothing about her seems real or honest.
That said, I never really cared for them and at certain times, the same can be said about the rest of them.[/QUOTE]
But you have to be beaten to be picked off look at Wes on Fresh Meat 1 they tried to pick him off and he went to every elimination and knocked them out 1 by 1 with the weakest chick. Looking at a lot of the guys on the challenge I dont see a lot of them beating Zach in anything physical just because the guys an athlete he's what 6'4 and hes an arena football player meaning he has endurance for days.
The greatest thing this season has given us is Zach in my opinion because I am VERY excited to see him on a challenge. The only hang up is there may be no more challenges after this latest one. IF there are however, he will be on one and it will be a great watch. He is already a proven athlete. I'm pretty surprised they got a trailer up and I am more surprised the show starts in a month. They just wrapped up shooting not long ago, this is a very fast turn around. I predicted a late February/March release or later, I was way off.
I actually felt a little bad for Ashley and Zach, that was a 5 on 2 drubbing.
I've never been an Ashley fan really, mostly because she's so boring, but I felt weirdly bad for her when they were all talking about her. I got where they were all coming from, but damn!
Also, since it can't be said enough. **** Frank. Everything has to be about him. GAHHH he's the worst. Zach sucks too.
I feel like all my posts regarding this season end this way but whatever, Alex, Priscilla, and Sam are all cool and should've gotten more focus.
edit: for what it's worth, my censored part of the post is telling Frank to shut the **** up. Just thought I'd clarify since four asterisks can mean anything! Haha.
The problem with Ashley, is I feel like she is one of the people, like Nate said, that just tried out for a bunch of different reality tv shows until one would pick her. She had a character that she wanted to act as already planned out coming onto the show, but changed her character once she started with Zach. I do think she is fake.
[QUOTE=erodwhtboy;291471]But you have to be beaten to be picked off look at Wes on Fresh Meat 1 they tried to pick him off and he went to every elimination and knocked them out 1 by 1 with the weakest chick. Looking at a lot of the guys on the challenge I dont see a lot of them beating Zach in anything physical just because the guys an athlete he's what 6'4 and hes an arena football player meaning he has endurance for days.[/QUOTE]
But there's more to it than just the physical stuff. You have to be willing to say/do a lot of nasty things, form alliances, etc... and I don't think he would be good at that (at least not initially).
I'm not saying he will never win, but that, as a newbie, it will take some time before he does. It's easy to say how things may/will play out from the outside. It's a whole different ballgame once you're there competing.
[QUOTE=mph922;291474]I've never been an Ashley fan really, mostly because she's so boring, but I felt weirdly bad for her when they were all talking about her. I got where they were all coming from, but damn![/QUOTE]
I think the fact that she (and Zach) were so dismissive of Alex's attempt to be friendly toward them rubbed the rest of castmates the wrong way. How can you justify treating Alex (who seems like a nice, caring person) so badly, that you couldn't be bothered to exchange something as simple/innocent as your phone #? Seems so unbelievably cold-hearted imo.
[QUOTE=jase1;291479]I think the fact that she (and Zach) were so dismissive of Alex's attempt to be friendly toward them rubbed the rest of castmates the wrong way. How can you justify treating Alex (who seems like a nice, caring person) so badly, that you couldn't be bothered to exchange something as simple/innocent as your phone #? Seems so unbelievably cold-hearted imo.[/QUOTE]
Seems pretty hopeless to me if you can't get along with Alex, who is about as harmless as one can be.
What's with everyones ***** jams over Zach on twitter? I definitely don't get it since most people on here seem to hate him...Zach and Ashley were the biggest waste of a casting. Zach's the biggest ****** since that d-bag from Hollywood.
I don't dislike Zach but that guy from Hollywood was infinitely more entertaining. Guy was hilarious in his arrogance, pretty much a cartoon character.
[QUOTE=brandissleep;291485]What's with everyones ***** jams over Zach on twitter? I definitely don't get it since most people on here seem to hate him...Zach and Ashley were the biggest waste of a casting. Zach's the biggest ****** since that d-bag from Hollywood.[/QUOTE]
But you're a fan of Frank whos probably the biggest ***** ever. Just cuz he sucks up to everyone after the show they turn on Zach. Frank's a *****, he's lucky he didnt get his *** kicked little cry baby, he wants to say its because hes ***** they dont like him, no its because hes a ********.
I'd like to see someone like Alex cast on the Challenge. It'd be interesting to see how someone sane handles an insane group of people. For Alex's sake though, she seems to have a brighter future than a reality TV game show, so here's to a good future for her.
I think the Frank and Zach melodrama only has one good answer: They're both *******s. They're essentially fighting back and forth with one saying the other is an idiot and unlikeable. Takes one to know one. Not on Zach's side by any means, but I can see his pointing how true how Frank would change his behavior after seeing the season preview while the show was still filming. Zach doesn't fully answer Frank's question during the reunion, but Frank acts like Zach didn't answer at all, Frank isn't listening to Zach. He also interjects himself in every discussing during the reunion. This would have been a better season with two different cast members besides Frank and Zach, and a better job. Ashley would have presumably opened up, and there would have been less melodrama. Having a better job would have led to the cast having natural conflict. The Real World used to give cool opportunities where they had to work together, from big gigs like 107.7 The End and Arista Records to smaller ones like New Orleans' public access station ( [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ5sbrHSq0E]Melissa Flips Out on David - YouTube[/url] ) and Chicago's local parks, rather than bar-tend alongside one another. Where their gig is with other local co-workers. It creates drama and tension that bartending doesn't. Seeing the radio station workers' tension and reaction to Stephen on Seattle added to the show. The difference between Hawaii's Local Motion gig and SD 2011's House of Blues lesser gig is huge.
Also it's time for BMP to stop using ****** indie music to tell the story. We don't need a scene of two people fighting followed by a band from Myspace's song about heartbreak playing over footage is shown of the cast staring out into the distance. Show the fight, show the interviews, and move on to the next scene. We aren't dumb. We can tell if the cast member is crying that they're sad. [B]We don't need a song to make this clear.[/B] The show works better with the raw footage look. See the NOLA Youtube clip. The current BMP staff should watch the older seasons from the late 90s to learn how to edit the show right. Also, you have an hour now. Use it like Jersey Shore does. Don't use the hour to focus only one issue for double the amount of time, intersplice it with humor, other stories, and other scenes. Provoking Ashley and Alex to confront one another would have taken the spotlight off of Frank.
Wtf was that? You know the season sucked when they only have one topic to dsicuss at the reunion! A whole hour about boring *** Ashley and meathead Zach? I didn't watch 98% of the season, and now I know why....
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;291560]Wtf was that? You know the season sucked when they only have one topic to dsicuss at the reunion! A whole hour about boring *** Ashley and meathead Zach? I didn't watch 98% of the season, and now I know why....[/QUOTE]
Frank was the whole season, not them two. It just so happened that the other 4 roommates for some reason figured they had to pick a side instead of saying "Frank's an *******" and "Zach/Ashley aren't social with us." Them agreeing with Frank makes the whole thing ridiculous considering what he did to ALL of them.
I thought Maria did a good job politely putting Frank into check and keeping him there toward the second half. If nothing else, I am glad that they are still keeping her and not letting Chet do the reunions too. I thought it was a decent reunion show.
I didn't I felt that this reunion was just flat out boring once again. I love Maria M and am glad she is still hosting though I don't think Chet is that bad.
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