The Mole: Season 4 (ABC)

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[quote=Bacchus;16134]Mark is the mole. When they show the reveals on the final episode, the mole pretty much blows something on every challenge (except if there is just no way without giving themselves up.) Just think back to what Mark has done and it is even more apparent "Evan Almighty" is the mole. Remember the pig catapult thing? What did he do? NOTHING! He stood and watched and complained and begged to be able to do the launching (so he could screw it up I am sure.) The Soccer/bike challenge. Yup, he got to the top of the mountain to keep cash out of the pot. I can't think back to episode 1 (if he failed the waterfall bag grab or not) but I know he was in charge of picking items for the beach combing challenge and they didn't do well there either. He really didn't need to throw it as the items were just not there. This week, he blew the challenge because he just quit uncontested and his buddy Bobby goes home being Bobby was sure it was not him and thus failed the quiz! [/quote] Bacchus, I think you may have just solved the whole show. I read this and now it all fits together. He just wants you to believe it is not him because he wants to make you feel so bad for him because his wife and him both work two jobs. But then again that might be why he isn't the mole. If he truly wanted the money why would he take the job as The Mole? But that is very interesting. I still have a hunch that its Kristen. She has the smarts to pull it off and she seems to point the finger at people a lot to cause distractions from herself.
i'm thinking it could be nicole, kristen, clay or paul as of right now
Yeah I don't know....Kristen was ALSO riding that bike...shes athletic, smart....she could easily be the mole too. i do NOT think its Craig, Vanessa, or Nicole. I have crossed them off my list of possible Moles. hmmm I hope the show keeps getting better! though the host is kinda....bland.
Fraking thunderstorm cut power for the last 20 minutes of The Mole, but I just found a blog and got caught up. Victoria gone, oh well. Everyone has to go eventually. No surprise that Mark survived another week. I was really hoping that he would tone it down being it was sooooooooooooooooooo obvious he was overacting to the journal burning. It was baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad acting. I don't want The Mole to totally be discovered in week 4!
I still feel like Kristen may be the mole... or perhaps the winner. Either way, she's poised to be the last woman standing - and so soon into the season! Can't believe we are already down to just 2 women!
[quote=roomie;16935]I still feel like Kristen may be the mole... or perhaps the winner. Either way, she's poised to be the last woman standing - and so soon into the season! Can't believe we are already down to just 2 women![/quote] Kristen has always been my pick since the first second I saw her. She is smart, friendy, strong, intuitive, and very mysterious. Either she is insanely smart or the Mole. They would not have Nicole or Paul be the Mole because they have very loud personalities. That would immediately make them the center of attention and that is not a good place for the Mole. Mark or Kristen are the only ones I see being able to have the makings of a great Mole. Kristen constantly does great on the missions. She is smart. And she is friendly. And mainly she is very questioning. She constantly asks everyone questions about what happened, making sure anything she has said or done is not being focused on. She doesn't hit everyone with questions hard so she makes it seem generally kind. I think she knows how to play the game.
[quote=Dartagnan;16938]Kristen has always been my pick since the first second I saw her. She is smart, friendy, strong, intuitive, and very mysterious. Either she is insanely smart or the Mole. They would not have Nicole or Paul be the Mole because they have very loud personalities. That would immediately make them the center of attention and that is not a good place for the Mole. Mark or Kristen are the only ones I see being able to have the makings of a great Mole. Kristen constantly does great on the missions. She is smart. And she is friendly. And mainly she is very questioning. She constantly asks everyone questions about what happened, making sure anything she has said or done is not being focused on. She doesn't hit everyone with questions hard so she makes it seem generally kind. I think she knows how to play the game.[/quote] Totally, totally agreed! I'm hoping very much that we will see Kristen in the finale, whether she be the mole or the winner :)
[quote=Dartagnan;16938]Kristen has always been my pick since the first second I saw her. She is smart, friendy, strong, intuitive, and very mysterious. Either she is insanely smart or the Mole. They would not have Nicole or Paul be the Mole because they have very loud personalities. That would immediately make them the center of attention and that is not a good place for the Mole. Mark or Kristen are the only ones I see being able to have the makings of a great Mole. Kristen constantly does great on the missions. She is smart. And she is friendly. And mainly she is very questioning. She constantly asks everyone questions about what happened, making sure anything she has said or done is not being focused on. She doesn't hit everyone with questions hard so she makes it seem generally kind. I think she knows how to play the game.[/quote] wouldnt kristen being good at the missions make it less likely that she's the mole? i havent ruled her out yet, but she's not in the lead to me. i have a suspicion that it's clay although thats not really based on much of anything
[quote=killer-tofu;16943]wouldnt kristen being good at the missions make it less likely that she's the mole? i havent ruled her out yet, but she's not in the lead to me. i have a suspicion that it's clay although thats not really based on much of anything[/quote] First off, this episode has been even better than the past 3. It is getting better and better. This episode proved more why Kristen could be the Mole. If you carried double the amount of what everybody else was carrying, you deserve the exemption no matter what. Clay, I think is on to Kristen. She was about to get an exemption. If she was the Mole she wouldn't need it. When Clay was persuading them to vote for her, she had absolutely no problem with it as long as she was helped out later on. I wouldn't care if he hadn't had an exemption yet. If I was in front of everyone the whole time and carried way more than them I would fight for it. Clay is the dark horse to win this. I think he thinks she is the Mole and only took the exemption to refrain from the Mole taking it instead.
[quote=Dartagnan;16946]First off, this episode has been even better than the past 3. It is getting better and better. This episode proved more why Kristen could be the Mole. If you carried double the amount of what everybody else was carrying, you deserve the exemption no matter what. Clay, I think is on to Kristen. She was about to get an exemption. If she was the Mole she wouldn't need it. When Clay was persuading them to vote for her, she had absolutely no problem with it as long as she was helped out later on. I wouldn't care if he hadn't had an exemption yet. If I was in front of everyone the whole time and carried way more than them I would fight for it. Clay is the dark horse to win this. I think he thinks she is the Mole and only took the exemption to refrain from the Mole taking it instead.[/quote] yeah but clay was the one saying he basically wouldnt give up fighting for the exemption. if they couldnt agree then the money would've all been taken away, so clay could have been disagreeable to try to get the money taken away but under the assumption that he really wanted the exemption. and i dont think the mole wouldve just taken twice the number of bricks striving to get the exemption because thats not what theyre there for. their goal is to keep money out of the pot first and foremost, not steal exemptions away from people. also clay was the first one who opted out of the finding clothes mission because of his pride... that was what got me started on thinking it could be him. now on to some other people... mark i think could be the mole because like bacchus said, he just overdid the journal thing, but i suppose he could have other motivations for that. there have been a few other things that are suspicious about him though. nicole is either a horrible and obvious mole, or a horrible player. it seems like she is out to just ***k everything up that she can. going back to the first night when she was picked to sleep outside, she opted to bend the rules and stay inside all night but just not sleep. also her saying two green apples on the luge challenge made me suspicious. paul could be the mole, but i think he's too stupid to pull that off. i just havent ruled him out yet. thats all i've got for now...
[quote=killer-tofu;16943]wouldnt kristen being good at the missions make it less likely that she's the mole? i havent ruled her out yet, but she's not in the lead to me. i have a suspicion that it's clay although thats not really based on much of anything[/quote] I think the odds of it being Clay are 1% and Mark 99% (down from my 100% after a good night's sleep.) Did you guys all forget how Mark just happened to leave a bunch of bricks (because he took the scale?) I promise you that I could take that scale and at least [I]one[/I] brick. Five bricks = 25 pounds. Scale = 20 pounds. Something doesn't add up here (unless you are doing Mole math.) I can already see the final episode in my head where they show that scene. What scenes are they going to show with Kristen? She is always winning! Mark on the other hand has lost money in just about every single event! Nicole and Paul are way to boisterous to be The Mole, so they are an easy rule outs. Clay has been just as suspicious at times as Mark, but he seems "smart" suspicious and not Mole suspicious to me... Y'all wait for the finale when they show Mark hanging out with the producers laughing it up as everyone looks for him after the journal burning. I mean if he was going to leave he can't be the mole, right? *wink* *wink*
Without even watching the show I would have picked Kristen at the mole. She lives in Santa Monica where everyone is either in the film/TV business or has close friends who are. Smells like a setup to me.
I agree with V1. If I took first looks at the group, Kristen would have been my first pick. She has the look for it as well. Mark is my other pick. He freaks out and there have been some places here and there where he could have easily sabotaged the game. I have to keep my on him.
You can't have a second pick! You either know or you dont, hehehe. I know. You will all join me in knowingness...er....ya....that is what it is and I have it! P.s. When it comes out that I am wrong expect most of this thread to be edited, lol (Screenshot time!)
[quote=Bacchus;16973]You can't have a second pick! You either know or you dont, hehehe. I know. You will all join me in knowingness...er....ya....that is what it is and I have it! P.s. When it comes out that I am wrong expect most of this thread to be edited, lol (Screenshot time!)[/quote] I guess you can't really have a second guess. I still stand by Kristen somehow, but I will keep my eyes on Mark. Amen. If I am totally wrong some of these posts my be edited. I just don't see Mark wanting to be the Mole. He is there for his family and wants and needs the money.
[quote=Dartagnan;16975] I just don't see Mark wanting to be the Mole. He is there for his family and wants and needs the money.[/quote] I can see that side of things. The good news (from my perspective) is he will be getting the money for his family! ;) Mole = Mark Molish = Kristen than Clay
[quote=Bacchus;16977]I can see that side of things. The good news (from my perspective) is he will be getting the money for his family! ;) Mole = Mark Molish = Kristen than Clay[/quote] I agree except I would replace Mark with Kristen. I dislike Clay, but I think he is playing the game well. Flying under the radar and taking the exemption from one of the most suspicious people there. Smart if you ask me. I hear everyone saying Craig is the mole, but he seems to determined and well..obvious to be the Mole.
[quote=Dartagnan;16980] I hear everyone saying Craig is the mole, but he seems to determined and well..obvious to be the Mole.[/quote] Did anyone think of Eric last night (Gauntlet 3?) I did....but I lost power and then forgot about it. Craig can't be The Mole as he isn't throwing things. [I]He is Eric on The Mole.[/I] The Mole needs to be able to "win" as well. Eric is a smart guy, but he has no second gear. That rules him out in my book. Help me out. Tell me what Kristen has thrown. Make an argument beyond her being a flirty kind of gal.
[quote=Bacchus;16984]Did anyone think of Eric last night (Gauntlet 3?) I did....but I lost power and then forgot about it. Craig can't be The Mole as he isn't throwing things. [I]He is Eric on The Mole.[/I] The Mole needs to be able to "win" as well. Eric is a smart guy, but he has no second gear. That rules him out in my book. Help me out. Tell me what Kristen has thrown. Make an argument beyond her being a flirty kind of gal.[/quote] I also thought of Eric as well. But it seems to me Eric is more capable than Craig of doing physical competition. Craig is to determined to win to throw missions. He was also considerate of not bringing out his journal as well. You have pointed out that Mark could have sabotaged the mission when they rode the bike up the hill to keep money out of the pot. It also could have been Kristen considering she was with him. She was the only one searching for piggies in that mission. Craig and Bobby weren't helping so she could have skipped all the piggies. Like Kathryn said from the first season, you have to win some of the missions because sabotaging each mission blows your cover.
[quote=Dartagnan;16988] You have pointed out that Mark could have sabotaged the mission when they rode the bike up the hill to keep money out of the pot. It also could have been Kristen considering she was with him. She was the only one searching for piggies in that mission. Craig and Bobby weren't helping so she could have skipped all the piggies. [/quote] or all the piggies had been taken by all the teams in front of them... and also her trying to get to the top on the bike couldve just been her trying to get the exemption because she thought she needed it. and with mark dropping the gold bricks, thats a good point, but wouldnt he just not have taken a bunch in the first place? unless he knew that someone would have had to take the scale, then i think if he was the mole he shouldve just taken less bricks in the first place. also i dont think the producers wouldve taken the chance of hiring craig as the mole because of exactly what happened last night. they had to have confidence that the mole can actually make it through all of the missions. my suspicion is on clay still but i reserve the right to change that opinion at any given moment... haha
[QUOTE]and with mark dropping the gold bricks, thats a good point, but wouldnt he just not have taken a bunch in the first place?[/QUOTE] When the producers tell you that there is going to be this scale thingy and take a bunch of bricks and drop them......it makes a lot more sense. Don't forget that they are all doing interviews, and Mark is doing briefings where they tell him what is going to happen!
[quote=Bacchus;17007]When the producers tell you that there is going to be this scale thingy and take a bunch of bricks and drop them......it makes a lot more sense. Don't forget that they are all doing interviews, and Mark is doing briefings where they tell him what is going to happen![/quote] i know, thats why i said if he didnt know about the scale then thats what he wouldve done... the producers arent telling them everything though because in a past season(i dont know which) they made everyone trade journals and the mole hadnt written anything in his/hers...
[quote=killer-tofu;17015]i know, thats why i said if he didnt know about the scale then thats what he wouldve done... the producers arent telling them everything though because in a past season(i dont know which) they made everyone trade journals and the mole hadnt written anything in his/hers...[/quote] It is so ***king obvious. killer-tofu is the Mole!
[quote=Bacchus;17026]It is so ***king obvious. killer-tofu is the Mole![/quote] ::Gasp:: ::Shock:: ::Dismay:: I always knew there was something wrong! I need to set it to record for next week but now that Bacchus has solved the mystery I don't know [IMG]http://vevmo.com/images/icons/icon12.gif[/IMG]
[quote=Bacchus;17026]It is so ***king obvious. killer-tofu is the Mole![/quote] damnit, i've been made... that brings up a good question though... what if everyone finds out who the mole is because of the mole screwing up or for whatever reason?

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