[QUOTE=JayTee;229493]Yeah I know, but Punisher made the whole show and you can't deny that .[/QUOTE]
Jay Tee, you are new here, so I'll give you a break for attempting to tell me what I can't do. Foolish, really... Do some research on people before attempting such a response next time with anyone here. For example, I read each of your previous posts before responding to you; although if you had hundreds of prior posts, I would have selected a random sample.
Here is the problem with a cast member like "Punisher." They are "Johnny one-note" characters: no nuance; nothing beyond to outward s**** suggesting the potential of a serious character flaw normally essential in classic dramatic literature. Dominate from beginning to end, production finally had to bring him to his knees.
The networks and major production companies have invested significantly in focus group research to determine what kind of characters audiences in each demographic respond to. What instant allure there may be to Sharay Haynes "Punisher" character, the research shows that audiences begin to tire of him when there is no clear countervailing character or group of characters to provide some balance. In the absence of such balance, the results are predicable to serious viewers unless production steps in to influence specific outcomes.
Actually, for an entirely different reason, I found it interesting to watch Haynes because his presence allowed me to look for the subtle indications that production would eventually prove to be his downfall. I certainly hope you are not one who thinks that reality television has very much real about it. It is contrived as **** with significant story boarding involved. Haynes no doubt caused them so angst, but it's not something 51 Minds hasn't encountered before. During Rock of Love 2, production met frequently with one of the cast members who knew the show was staged, and she worked with production to create many of the dramatic scenes. The scene with "Frenchy" and Brett in the strip club was orchestrated in the limo outside the club in a discussion among a senior production person, Bret and Angelique. Bret's later shocked on-camera reaction had obviously been completely staged.
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A week ago you wrote that the ILM series was the "VH1's biggest money maker since FOL and ILNY." While I've not seen any evidence of that fact in the trades, I do know that the legal cost associated with the Brian Jenkins affair cost the network and 51 Minds far more than they ever made from ILM 1 and 2 combined. Attempting to recover some of the production costs from ILM 4 was strong motivation to actually air the series after VH1's vice president Jeff Olde's earlier announcement that neither ILM 3 or ILM 4 would air.
[QUOTE=V1man;229521]Jay Tee, you are new here, so I'll give you a break for attempting to tell me what I can't do.[/QUOTE]
umm...how did I do that? lol
[quote]Foolish, really... Do some research on people before attempting such a response next time with anyone here. For example, I read each of your previous posts before responding to you; although if you had hundreds of prior posts, I would have selected a random sample.
Here is the problem with a cast member like "Punisher." They are "Johnny one-note" characters: no nuance; nothing beyond to outward s**** suggesting the potential of a serious character flaw normally essential in classic dramatic literature. Dominate from beginning to end, production finally had to bring him to his knees. [/quote]idc bro he was still more entertaining than anyone of the other cast members.
[quote]The networks and major production companies have invested significantly in focus group research to determine what kind of characters audiences in each demographic respond to. What instant allure there may be to Sharay Haynes "Punisher" character, the research shows that audiences begin to tire of him when there is no clear countervailing character or group of characters to provide some balance. In the absence of such balance, the results are predicable to serious viewers unless production steps in to influence specific outcomes.
Actually, for an entirely different reason, I found it interesting to watch Haynes because his presence allowed me to look for the subtle indications that production would eventually prove to be his downfall. I certainly hope you are not one who thinks that reality television has very much real about it. It is contrived as **** with significant story boarding involved. Haynes no doubt caused them so angst, but it's not something 51 Minds hasn't encountered before. During Rock of Love 2, production met frequently with one of the cast members who knew the show was staged, and she worked with production to create many of the dramatic scenes. The scene with "Frenchy" and Brett in the strip club was orchestrated in the limo outside the club in a discussion among a senior production person, Bret and Angelique. Bret's later shocked on-camera reaction had obviously been completely staged.
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A week ago you wrote that the ILM series was the "VH1's biggest money maker since FOL and ILNY." While I've not seen any evidence of that fact in the trades, I do know that the legal cost associated with the Brian Jenkins affair cost the network and 51 Minds far more than they ever made from ILM 1 and 2 combined. Attempting to recover some of the production costs from ILM 4 was strong motivation to actually air the series after VH1's vice president Jeff Olde's earlier announcement that neither ILM 3 or ILM 4 would air.[/quote]uhhh....bro I watch these shows for entertainment, not for research lol instead of wasting my time researching if the show is fake or not, I'm out there making my money and making ppl research me lol so like idc if this or that is staged, I'm just expressing my opinion and my opinion is that Punisher made the whole show (:
[QUOTE=JayTee;230034]umm...[B]how did I do that?[/B] lol
idc bro he was still more entertaining than anyone of the other cast members.
uhhh....bro I watch these shows for entertainment, not for research lol instead of wasting my time researching if the show is fake or not, I'm out there making my money and making ppl research me lol so like idc if this or that is staged, I'm just expressing my opinion and my opinion is that Punisher made the whole show (:[/QUOTE]
The evidence: "you can't deny that." But I can, and did.
BTW... be sure to tell the casting people for all the shows you are applying to that you post at vevmo.
Goes to show you what kind of horrible negativity and attention Brian Jenkins has brought this show down to. Some sicko physco fan made a Brian Jenkins Twitter (@vh1ryanjenkins) and was bothering ILM4 castmember Cisco. What made me laugh is he had a epic fail attempt no one gave him any attention or followed him bahaha.
[QUOTE=XxJulieCxX;230070]Goes to show you what kind of horrible negativity and attention Brian Jenkins has brought this show down to. Some sicko physco fan made a Brian Jenkins Twitter (@vh1ryanjenkins) and was bothering ILM4 castmember Cisco. What made me laugh is he had a epic fail attempt no one gave him any attention or followed him bahaha.[/QUOTE]
Whoever did that really needs to get some counseling. Nothing's funny about a murderer.
I don't see why vh1 can't air just one season of I love money each year. Now I only watch MTV now and it looks like there will never be anything to watch on vh1 ever again.
[QUOTE=V1man;230041]The evidence: "you can't deny that." But I can, and did. [/quote]
Lol whatever floats your boat dude .
[quote]BTW... be sure to tell the casting people for all the shows you are applying to that you post at vevmo.[/QUOTE]
nahh (: it's break, no classes right now so when I'm bored why not talk to people about shows that I enjoy (;
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