Gauntlet 3: Episode 7 - Don't Make Me a Target

I'm watching now and I'm sure will have PLENty of comments soon... =)

[QUOTE=Bacchus;7419]I wanted to add that I actually felt bad for Coral last night. I usually don't, as she is the type of person that would not want people feeling sorry for her. However, you could tell she was extremely hurt by the fact that her "friends" turned on her. I would be distraught too if the person I taught the game (Evan) sold me down the river and actually don't blame her for jumping ship.[/QUOTE] Yeah Evan turned on Coral faster than his hairline is receding, and as we all know, that is pretty damn fast.

[QUOTE=Bacchus;7414]I thought it was an alright episode, although the full weight of the veteran domination is starting to wear a bit on me. I can't remember a challenge ever being this lopsided, let alone the winning squad being so dominated by total losers. The entire faux sadness about the Coral situation was almost too much for me to take. The guys have been wanting to get rid of the girls from the start and I doubt any of them lost sleep over Casey going home. I wonder if Coral still received her appearance fee? I would assume that they would have to pay her anyways if she was a SAG member based on the amount of days "on set." Then again, I remember V1man saying something about Beth wanting to be eliminated so that she could go home and still get paid. Guess I am looking for clarification. Frank's summarization of the team was spot on! I think he had the best lines of the episode talking about his rookie brethren (and the jabs at Kenny were entertaining as well.) [spoiler] I love how the vets think they are the Challenge version of the NFL's 1972 Dolphins. Little do they know that they will be remembered as the Challenge version of the 2008 Patriots! [/spoiler] I wish that the Real World/Road Rules Challenge was a "mixed art" competition rather then purely based on brute strength. Sure the team events often involve puzzles (although not on a Survivor level) but the actual eliminations always favor the strongest psychically. Who is to say that the absolute strongest players are the ones that the fans really want sticking around?[/QUOTE] Under the terms of the contract, Coral was not entitled to be paid. The show is not union, so the SAG appearance rules do not apply. I don't know if she was. What I suspect happened is that BMP did not seek to recover it's costs for her transportation, etc., but also declined to pay her contract appearance fee. If you have read Beth's latest blog, she says she lost the gauntlet to Coral so she was able to satisfy her contract obligation before leaving. I'm glad the executive producer was "reassigned" (fired) after the challenge. He completely lost control of the show. Things were so bad behind the scenes/off camera that they had to post a guard at night outside of Coral, Katie and Beth's door. MTV needs a thorough house cleaning of this show, beginning with casting and they need to bring back Mark Kunitz who left BMP to create and produce Fear Factor.

[QUOTE=stacee_danielle;7431]Yeah Evan turned on Coral faster than his hairline is receding, and as we all know, that is pretty damn fast.[/QUOTE] You have to love Beth's "Hair Club for Men" comment about Evan in her latest blog.

[QUOTE=V1man;7432]Under the terms of the contract, Coral was not entitled to be paid. The show is not union, so the SAG appearance rules do not apply. I don't know if she was. What I suspect happened is that BMP did not seek to recover it's costs for her transportation, etc., but also declined to pay her contract appearance fee. If you have read Beth's latest blog, she says she lost the gauntlet to Coral so she was able to satisfy her contract obligation before leaving. I'm glad the executive producer was "re***igned" (fired) after the challenge. He completely lost control of the show. Things were so bad behind the scenes/off camera that they had to post a guard at night outside of Coral, Katie and Beth's door. MTV needs a thorough house cleaning of this show, beginning with casting and they need to bring back Mark Kunitz who left BMP to create and produce Fear Factor.[/QUOTE] A GUARD!?!?!?!? that is CRAZY?? were they in any sort of danger from other cast members? i wonder... I don't blame Coral at all. This challenge is whack. It's really lame and isn't even fun competition. Honestly though, if I was Coral...I wouldve obnoxiously thrown the gauntlet so i could get the pay check. (but im sure that wouldve made her look like an *** on TV). I feel bad for Casey, but you're right...the guys "fake sadness" was lame. They really need to cast these challenges better. Do they even TRY asking the REAL "Vets" if they'd like to participate? Throw these Fresh Meat kids to the sharks, and get some real people in there! Kalle? Julie (NY)? Judd and Pam? Sarah (Miami)? ANYONE from Boston or Seattle? Hey....it could happen...

I loved the challenges that Emily was in. I would ALWAYS love it when Timmy came on. CHRISTIAN! (ok..so maybe i'm just a HUGE RR:2 fan!) But you know what I mean. Antoine and Belou! I love the older cast members. Casting needs to try harder to get some of them involved. OR...at least get some newer people that viewers have either temporarily forgotten about...or some that we wouldnt expect. I loved seeing Kelly and Danny from New Orleans on Battle of the Seasons! I never thought Kelly wouldve been the challenge-type, yanno?

I loved the original Gauntlet (or it might have been G2) with Sarah- who kept getting repeatedly throw in the gauntlet, and always coming out as a winner. It was stellar television.

[quote=RockSteadyVybes;7440]I loved the challenges that Emily was in. I would ALWAYS love it when Timmy came on. CHRISTIAN! (ok..so maybe i'm just a HUGE RR:2 fan!) But you know what I mean. Antoine and Belou! I love the older cast members. Casting needs to try harder to get some of them involved. OR...at least get some newer people that viewers have either temporarily forgotten about...or some that we wouldnt expect. I loved seeing Kelly and Danny from New Orleans on Battle of the Seasons! I never thought Kelly wouldve been the challenge-type, yanno?[/quote] Those are the people I love too, but sadly I think we are going to see less and less of the (for lack of a better term) old schoolers. Oh No know I feel old!!!! Please bring back some of the people that mattered!!! If I wanted to watch children run around backstabbing, I'd watch Hannah Montana!!!

[quote=Lily'sMom;7447]Those are the people I love too, but sadly I think we are going to see less and less of the (for lack of a better term) old schoolers. Oh No know I feel old!!!! Please bring back some of the people that mattered!!! If I wanted to watch children run around backstabbing, I'd watch Hannah Montana!!![/quote] Speaking of which, Montana was always fun to watch on challenges, too.

[quote=Bacchus;7438]I agree that the Vets are not Vets and the fact that there are so many of these noobs parading around as Vets kills the show. The reason I watch the challenges is to see my favorites from past seasons of [B]The Real World[/B] and [B]Road Rules[/B], not to see a bunch of people from a season that never was! If they are going to take this route, why not just dump the "Real World/Road Rules" moniker and just cast entirely random people for what is becoming an entirely random show? Just like Austin dominates the Rookie team this season, the Fresh Meat kids dominate the Vets and that just means that everyone else is going to get thrown off. Unfortunately, that "everyone else" is the reason most of us watch in the first place.[/quote] I agree entirely. And I did feel really bad for Coral too, it's BS what they did to her. And I don't remember if it was Even or who that made the comment about "your out of the loop now, get over it". I can't help but think these Fresh Meat kids wouldn't know how to play the game if it weren't for watching Coral on past seasons/challenges. I don't blame her at all for what she did, she was betrayed. :no:

I truly respect Coral for leaving, she chose self respect over money. It was really annoying to watch all the girls just hand over the team to the guys like that. Also friendship seems to mean nothing to these kids, look at Robin.

It's time to ditch the Fresh Meat kids period point blank. Does MTV not understand that the reason a lot of people don't tune in is due to them. We're looking for familiar faces. I know a lot of people watched purely because Coral was on this time. So, if the Fresh Meat fools are going to ram her out every Challenge they have to go. I think they wanted her to go because most of these kids especially Kenny and Ev were left out of the "group" on earlier challenges. That's when the Vets were really the Vets. And, Coral and the Miz were the ringleaders of that group. Evelyn: I will never ever automatically associate butch women with feminism again. Love how she can go off on Coral about team spirit and team this. Why should Coral care about a team that wanted to get rid of her? That makes no sense. Yes, Evelyn how dare Coral not help you and the other idiots win a potential share of her prize money. And, I really think your mad that you didn't have an excuse to do Ball Brawl with Coral. I don't think you wanted to beat her. I think you just wanted an excuse to cop a feel of Coral. I don't understand how any of the girl Vets will be able to stand behind the comments they made about Coral. They can't honestly back the guys after seeing some of these episodes now.

[QUOTE=V1man;7433]You have to love Beth's "Hair Club for Men" comment about Evan in her latest blog.[/QUOTE] Oh I know, it was classic!

[QUOTE=Bacchus;7467]Maybe V1man can pull some strings and encourage Beth to come visit to answer a few questions and share her like sense of humor. :D[/QUOTE] That would be awesome...She cracks me up.

Lol She Got Death Threats I Wonder What Casey Danny Evan And Other Dewches Got............... I Give Coral A Standing O For Doing What She Did And Plz From Now On Ban The Loudmouth Fresh Meat From Challenges Period

[quote=OtherPplsDrama;7455]I agree entirely. And I did feel really bad for Coral too, it's BS what they did to her. And I don't remember if it was Even or who that made the comment about "your out of the loop now, get over it". I can't help but think these Fresh Meat kids wouldn't know how to play the game if it weren't for watching Coral on past seasons/challenges. I don't blame her at all for what she did, she was betrayed. :no:[/quote] I remember now Evan said "It's a new generation of people. She was no longer in the loop." Oh come one...it sounds like he was putting her out to pasture!!

[QUOTE=OtherPplsDrama;7455]I can't help but think these Fresh Meat kids wouldn't know how to play the game if it weren't for watching Coral on past seasons/challenges. I don't blame her at all for what she did, she was betrayed. :no:[/QUOTE] They didn't watch close enough since they lost. And, she should ram that point on home at the reunion. It wasn't about the game. I think Ev, Kenny, and Danny were mad at Coral for their experiences on earlier challenges. If memory serves correct all three were outcasts and "out of the loop" on earlier challenges.

[QUOTE=Bacchus;7467]Maybe V1man can pull some strings and encourage Beth to come visit to answer a few questions and share her like sense of humor. :D[/QUOTE] Not sure how this would actually work, but her answer is yes. Perhaps, if people want to post questions for her, she can respond to them collectively as if it were an interview. Beth's condo is currently under rennovation, so reliable internet access for her to do something real time is problematic.

[QUOTE=EastNY;7492]Lol She Got Death Threats I Wonder What Casey Danny Evan And Other Dewches Got............... I Give Coral A Standing O For Doing What She Did And Plz From Now On Ban The Loudmouth Fresh Meat From Challenges Period[/QUOTE] [B]I don't see anything to laugh about regarding the death threats.[/B] I talked to Evelyn about them; the messages were real. Although you can never tell about real intent from a message, they were not of the "I hope you die" kind. The people who wrote them will be in serious legal trouble, particularly if they live in California where communicating a death threat via the internet is a felony. Evelyn is not one of our clients at Vision 1, but we have offered her our full assistance in dealing with these people.