Fresh Meat 2: Spoilers

[QUOTE=molds13;169299]I said already that I don't know who Wes and Mandi lose to but that I think it is Kenny and Laurel. If I've read into it correctly... CJ and Sydney lose to Landon and Carley Ryan and Theresa lose to Jenn and Noor[/QUOTE] Thanks, and totally forgot about Jenn-- who takes her and her awesome partner out?

Jenn is not eliminated she makes the final and places 4th.

[QUOTE=molds13;169299]I said already that I don't know who Wes and Mandi lose to but that I think it is Kenny and Laurel. If I've read into it correctly... CJ and Sydney lose to Landon and Carley Ryan and Theresa lose to Jenn and Noor[/QUOTE] Well, based on one of your earlier posts, you stated that three of the final teams went into at least two exiles. Kenny already did one, goes against Ev, and your thinking he sends Wes home. If this is true, Kenny went into at least three, sends home Wes and Ev, a big F you to them. Ha, I'm hoping he didn't take Wes out.

[QUOTE=r3iKo;169372]Well, based on one of your earlier posts, you stated that three of the final teams went into at least two exiles. Kenny already did one, goes against Ev, and your thinking he sends Wes home. If this is true, Kenny went into at least three, sends home Wes and Ev, a big F you to them. Ha, [B]I'm hoping he didn't take Wes out.[/B][/QUOTE] I'm hoping he does so it finally ends the who is better debate. If it was Wes beating Kenny I'd still be saying that too.

I'm so sad that Jenn got 4th place:( my favourites never win! And Kenny is just proving to be one of the best competitors because even though he barely has any friends in this challenge, he still ends up in the finale which is pretty good! And I'm glad that he takes out Evelyn and hopefully Wes.

[QUOTE=bootje30;169434]I'm so sad that Jenn got 4th place:( my favourites never win! And Kenny is just proving to be one of the best competitors because even though he barely has any friends in this challenge, he still ends up in the finale which is pretty good! And I'm glad that he takes out Evelyn and hopefully Wes.[/QUOTE] I gotta say, I'm not glad that Ev got eliminated, but I am glad that it was Kenny and Laurel. If she had been eliminated by anyone other than them or Landon, I would have been really disappointed.

Aww ****. I hate that Jenn came in 4th.

[QUOTE=faceless;169374]I'm hoping he does so it finally ends the who is better debate. If it was Wes beating Kenny I'd still be saying that too.[/QUOTE] But you know someone will argue that it's not really an accurate display of who is better because they had partners. I've had that discussion with a few of my friends already...

[QUOTE=molds13;169602]Just another confirmation (at least in my opinion) that Jenn did not get kicked off the show and that they are fine with each other now... [/QUOTE] Interesting! Where did this come from?

Probably from facebook...that was from November. Love the play fighting

OHEMEGEE, if Kenny wins I'm gonna smack a bish. Like srsly, you guys, srsly. No, nops. I don't care tbh. I seriously dislike his parter though.

So the spoilers were wrong, I thought Landon took out Paula.

Ok so based off spoilers something is missing. If Paula goes tonight how is it that Kenny's alliance has the numbers to put in two of Wes alliances in Syd/CJ and also Danny/Sandy. What goes wrong?

[QUOTE=Iverson20;170072]Ok so based off spoilers something is missing. If Paula goes tonight how is it that Kenny's alliance has the numbers to put in two of Wes alliances in Syd/CJ and also Danny/Sandy. What goes wrong?[/QUOTE] I was wondering the same thing. Does any one know?

We have to tune in for those kind of explanations ^ The only thing that has been off is that Landon was reported to have taken out Paula.

mmmm...the only thing I see is the Brandon/Danny fight next week but I know Katelynn can't stand Kenny and can't see her flipping. And I know Danny wouldn't flip. Something is up or those spoilers are off.

The preview kinda explains where Wes's alliance screws up.

My theory is Kenny or Ryan or Jillian wins the challenge which leads to Danny being thrown in and Wes goes with Brandon to go up against him to be someone that's boarderline in the Wes alliance & just created issues with Wes' good buddy. I'm thinking it must have been Ryan to win the challenge because otherwise I'd think Danny would want to go against him (unless Wes is thinking it is better for Wes if Ryan sticks around as someone for Wes to actually beat).

If you pay attention to the after shows... you know for a fact that Brandon and Katelynn are seperated from Wes' alliance, Paula said it, also 100% Kenny takes out Wes in the exile because of Mandi... Out of all the teams that are left who could beat Kenny and Laurel in the exile, not Landon because of his partner and I know Kenny takes out Wes...Kenny does make it to the end, I just don't know if he wins.

[QUOTE=Iverson20;170118]mmmm...the only thing I see is the Brandon/Danny fight next week but I know Katelynn can't stand Kenny and can't see her flipping. And I know Danny wouldn't flip. Something is up or those spoilers are off.[/QUOTE] Actually Danny could possibly flip. I remember the previews had him sayin that for the first time since hes known Wes, Wes doesnt have his back... maybe that makes him flip.

[QUOTE=Iverson20;170072]Ok so based off spoilers something is missing. If Paula goes tonight how is it that Kenny's alliance has the numbers to put in two of Wes alliances in Syd/CJ and also Danny/Sandy. What goes wrong?[/QUOTE] The only thing I can think off is Kennys alliance wins challenges and start winning face offs. If, lets say, Kenny keeps winning he puts in someone from Wes' alliance but because Wes has the numbers he sends someone from Kennys alliance in... umm whoever goes in from Kennys alliance wins? I mean if one of the spoilers was wrong it kinda throws off the whole count so whoever sends someone else home is kinda unknown.

[QUOTE=ebsl86;170271]The only thing I can think off is Kennys alliance wins challenges and start winning face offs. If, lets say, Kenny keeps winning he puts in someone from Wes' alliance but because Wes has the numbers he sends someone from Kennys alliance in... umm whoever goes in from Kennys alliance wins? [/QUOTE] As long as Kenny and Laurel keep winning, at least one person going into Exile will not be their alliance. And no matter how strong you think a team is, really anything can happen in the Exile. Even if Evelyn is playing it right and making the best strategic decisions possible, there's no way to plan for the winner's pick. The best you can do is give yourself the best odds possible, and hope it works out once you're in Exile.

[QUOTE=faceless;169069]I bet we'll never hear the end of how it's unfair Ev lost and how much Kenny sucks even though he won that exile.[/QUOTE] I don't think Ev ever displayed poor sportsmanship. Truthfully, I expected Kenny & Laurel to be responsible for taking out perhaps 4 or 5 strong teams after episode 2 when the alliances start to pan out. I can Ev/Luke losing to Kenny/Laurel easily, and it's not because Laurel is superior to Ev ...... the weak link would be Luke. Due to Ev's departure so late in the season, and to whom we known to be in the finals, we know that Kenny's current alliance outnumbers Ev/Wes's around episodes 7. The real question is how did Kenny turn the tables with the mediorcre teams he has in his alliance. My speculation is that Kenny/Laurel wins next week, goes for the weaker team (Danny or Katelyn's team and they are taken out by Jillian/Pete). Since Evelyn's alliance has the numbers now, Kenny had to win the challenge on Episode 4 otherwise he's voted in one way or another (jury vs winning team pick).

[QUOTE=Darock1713;161381]Based on what you have provided us, alot has already been determined, almost to the point where all of the matchups can be determined. However, I look at the elimination listing and conclude that unlike FM1, the person who got voted into the Exile got to choose their opponent or there was some twist to where the same team could not be voted in for 2 consecutive exiles. 4 Exiles in a week is brutal, why not have the same team compete until they fall out. Even Lando would be pressed in a situation like that. It just seems like BMP tried their hardest to make this fairer vs past challenges where you have an alliance sending in people over and over. In addition, Jenn making it to the finals means 1 thing (if she did in fact win an exile). She was fortunate enough to be in some huge alliance, and when she did go in, she faced the weakest possible team remaining. I like Jenn, but she isn't in shape like Jillian, and according to molds13, Kenny's partner. Noor is the wildcard![/QUOTE] I repost this to acknowledge fault towards Jenn's atheltic ability. She did well last night, but I have always felt that she was the one that eliminated Ryan at the end. I just think after Evelyn's elimination ....... Kenny, Landon, and Jillian came to an "understanding"

[QUOTE=molds13;170386]If the matchup is correct, next week suggests that someone flips from Wes' alliance.[/QUOTE] So Molds, do we know where we got things missed up? How come it was listed that Landon took out Paula?

[QUOTE=townie;159442]To be completely honest, I never thought Wes was one of the elite competitors on these challenges to begin with so I'm not shocked to see him lose on The Ruins & then lose again on this challenge. These Exiles are really not all that complicated... you carry a weight and run with it. Any of the top tier male competitors on the challenges would not have much difficulty in performing well in them, and if you look back at who Wes and Casey beat in their Exiles, those teams were not exactly world beaters. Plus, they are team elimination face-offs so you don't have the true 1-on-1, head-to-head physical aspect of seeing who is better. He did win the first Duel, but lets be honest, that cast had a lot of cupcakes on it. Evan & CT consistently out performed Wes by a longshot in basically every challenge except for the two that were swimming based. I also have no doubt that the two of them would've mopped the floor with Wes quite easily in any of the Duels. Three of the four Duels were strength/endurance based and Wes took almost 20 minutes to wrestle a pole away from a 160 pound guy. The cards just fell in his favor on that challenge and stuff worked out for him as perfectly as it could've possibly gone with CT taking out Evan and CT getting DQ'ed against Brad... the two strongest guys on the show got eliminated and Wes never had to go up against either of them in a do-or-die scenario. He's a great schemer & great at getting drama going and is good TV... but as far as this whole aura of him being an unstoppable, unbeatable force on these challenges... he is not in the same league as the top tier guys.[/QUOTE] I couldn't agree with you more.

[QUOTE=molds13;159786]Prepare for the onslaught of "ugggggggggggggghs", Kenny lovers... From what I have seen from conversations, Laurel, Kenny's partner, is (by far) the most dominating female in the Fresh Meat. Also, some elimination matchups: Darrell and Cara lose to Jillian and Pete Sarah and Vinny lose to Kenny and Laurel [B]Paula and Jeff lose to Landon and Carley[/B] Katelynn and Brandon lose to CJ and Syd Danny and Sandy lose to Jillian and Pete[/QUOTE] this was wrong....*scolds* bad molds