Cutthroat: Real World/ Road Rules Challenge - Speculation (Spoilers)

[QUOTE=r3iKo;206098]put somebody on a pedestal: to believe that someone is perfect. [I]The way her father put her on a pedestal just made her want to behave badly.[/I] Yes, it would be.[/QUOTE] Not referring to you specifically, but some people seem to start questioning Molds' accuracy or educated guesses when they happen to contain information someone doesn't want to hear (i.e. the gray team probably does not win). The fact is, Molds has more information than most people on this site, so people thinking what she says is probably correct is intelligent and based on substantial evidence. She has sources and connections many here do not have. Recognizing that truth is not akin to thinking someone is infallible and blindly trusting him or her. If you have inside information that suggests Molds is wrong about something, I would suggest you PM her about it. Otherwise, I don't see what this conversation is even really about.

[QUOTE=r3iKo;206029]The Challenge description said a mid season twist. If that's the case, then CT and Tina come in mid way through the Challenge. I feel like there is still work to do, as to why they were there. As much as I love CT, I would like to see Tina get some air time in these promos.[/QUOTE] Yeah, Jenn is suggesting that something epic went down. I don't think "epicness" can be contained in one or two episodes. I like [B]jones10389[/B]'s theory that they were added to even out the teams midseason. I hope Tina gets some air time too but I think they're leaving her out as the "surprise". They need to promote CT to generate buzz. [QUOTE=Entropy;206066]So if CT goes to the [COLOR="Blue"]Blue[/COLOR]team and Brad is on the [COLOR="Red"]Red[/COLOR] team it will all come down to..who finally wins it all CT or Brad? Deep down I hope CT goes Red, so that he and Brad can FINALLY win one.[/QUOTE] Brad's line in the trailer, something to the extent that "you can see in his eyes when he gets fired up that he has something to prove..." makes me think of the ****** off look CT had when he was walking out in promo 2. [QUOTE=molds13;206085]I don't know, what defines happiness? Having an [B]***-load of money, or having a support system around you that truly cares for your well-being?[/B] With that being said...would they let you risk your life savings on such a bet?[/QUOTE] My guess is the [COLOR="Blue"]Blue[/COLOR] team threw Bananas to the wolves at CT's urging.

[QUOTE=roxylala;206140]didn't Jen post something after the challenge that made it seem like she'd lost? I think the red team wins.[/QUOTE] I remember something like that, but it was only everyone thinking she/her team may have lost because of a comment she made on facebook or twitter or something. Her comment made it seem like she was ******, something along the lines of her "wanting to get home as soon as she could" or she "couldn't wait to get the **** out of this place" or something like that, and I don't think it was much more than that. But regardless if she meant it the way most people think or not, I still think the Red team won as well.

[QUOTE=jones10389;206142]Since it's playground style guy,girl or girl,guy for picking wich guy and girl do you think got picked 1st[/QUOTE] For the guy I say It would be either Brad or Derrick or Abe, then the girl probably Laurel.

[QUOTE=gjams24;206151]For the guy I say It would be either Brad or Derrick or Abe, then the girl probably Laurel.[/QUOTE] I'd say you're right. The only thing that you might be wrong about is if the first team to pick picks Brad, I'd guess the first girl to get picked for that team would be Tori. If not, Laurel's probably a safe bet.

[QUOTE=Adrian!!!!!!;206148]I remember something like that, but it was only everyone thinking she/her team may have lost because of a comment she made on facebook or twitter or something. Her comment made it seem like she was ******, something along the lines of her "wanting to get home as soon as she could" or she "couldn't wait to get the **** out of this place" or something like that, and I don't think it was much more than that. But regardless if she meant it the way most people think or not, I still think the Red team won as well.[/QUOTE] [url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=7587][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/12154c890be2bc9c8.gif[/img][/url]

Eh....that really means nothing, she'd been away from a new relationship for a month....I'm sure she was tired and they had to be there for a few extra days past the challenge....she probably wasnt looking forward to the trip home....and hey maybe she didnt like someone that was there with her, you never know.

[QUOTE=molds13;206169]My guess is that Jenn, Paula, and Laurel were the first three girls picked. I'm also guessing that Camila had no idea what was going on.[/QUOTE] Obviously not, but I'm surprised Jenn was one of the first girl picks too, I mean she isnt a weak link at all but I think there are some athletic girls this season; Tori, Melinda, Cara Maria, Sarah, Emily just to name a few (of course if they werent a captain themselves)

By the way, I think BMP did a very good job promoting this season.

[QUOTE=jones10389;206139][strike]what i get out of the "mid season twist" Is TJ announces to the cast that at the midway point will say episode 5 or begining of episode 6 2 new players 1 guy and 1 girl will be added to the team with the guy going to the team with the least amount of guys and the girl going to the team with the least amount of girls giving them a 2nd chance[/strike] What I get out of the "midseason twist" is that TJ announces to the cast that at the midway point, say episode 5 or 6, 2 new players (1 guy and 1 girl) will be added to the teams. The guy will go to the team with the least amount of guys and the girl will go to the team with the least amount of girls, giving them a second chance.[/QUOTE] This theory is really dumb and I'll tell you why. On the Ruins, all the guys on the Challengers team were eliminated, they never sent in replacement players for KellyAnne and Sarah for a better chance at the final, so why would they do it here.

[strike]i"m not done reading all the post, but here's what I'm confused about.... if sarah may be the team captain of gray.... why the heck did she pick shavon (unless she was the last pick, in that case, LOL!!!!) but then i am also confused cuz i thought laurel wud be like in the 1st 2 girls picked instead of being like the 3rd (if gray picked last n sarah is captain) THIS IS JUST SPECULATION ETC. But I am surprised that Jenn made it so far.... not that i don't like her (cuz i do, she's fun!) but she I don't believer she's proven to be strong, but that maybe it was because of Noor (who had the best scores in FM2) IDK.[/strike] I'm not done reading all the posts, but here's what I'm confused about...if Sarah was possibly the team captain of gray, why the heck did she pick Shauvon (unless she was the last pick, in that case, LOL!) but then I am also confused because I thought Laurel would be one of the first two girls picked instead of being the third (if gray picked last and Sarah is captain). This is just speculation. But I am surprised Jenn made it so far. Not that I don't like her (because I do, she's fun!) but I don't believe she's proven to be strong. But that may be because of Noor (who had the best scores in FM2).

[QUOTE=fabulous788;205775]Well in Gauntlet 2 the Captains were chosen by a small challenge, I know this is a different format, but I don't think they would just randomly assign them.[/QUOTE] It sounds good, however, can u picture Camila or any other female winning a challenge over girls like Laurel or Cara Maria or Tori???? I don't think she'd be in the top 3 (personal opinion). As well as about half of newcomers winning a challenge over veteran guys like Brad, Abram, Yes johnny (i don't like him tho) or Dunbar??? I'm more tempted to believe it was random

[QUOTE=El Scorcho;206234]This theory is really dumb and I'll tell you why. On the Ruins, all the guys on the Challengers team were eliminated, they never sent in replacement players for KellyAnne and Sarah for a better chance at the final, so why would they do it here.[/QUOTE] I don't think it's very fair to say that the theory is dumb. First of all, the Challenges are different from each other. You could say "I think that someone hits someone else and then there's a replacement." and I could tell you you're an idiot because they didn't replace Brad, Darrell, or Tonya on the Ruins. But CT and Adam were both replaced on the Duel II. Things change between different seasons. Secondly, this isn't the Ruins 2, it's Cutthroat. While I don't necessarily think that jones is right, I would have responded to the post in a much politer manner.

[QUOTE=cryssy19;206238]It sounds good, however, can u picture Camila or any other female winning a challenge over girls like Laurel or Cara Maria or Tori???? I don't think she'd be in the top 3 (personal opinion). As well as about half of newcomers winning a challenge over veteran guys like Brad, Abram, Yes johnny (i don't like him tho) or Dunbar??? I'm more tempted to believe it was random[/QUOTE] The only "random selection" of team captains I could see is if they did a drawing. And even then, I don't think that's how it's going to play out. Maybe there's a an opening challenge to select captains and it's like an elimination game where contestants keep getting eliminated. Maybe those eliminated can still participate and try to rig the game. Or maybe the girls just had it out for girls they perceived as tough from the beginning and banded together to make sure that the strong girls didn't have the power? Or, maybe, Camila won.

[QUOTE=CzarEric;206240]The only "random selection" of team captains I could see is if they did a drawing. And even then, I don't think that's how it's going to play out. Maybe there's a an opening challenge to select captains and it's like an elimination game where contestants keep getting eliminated. Maybe those eliminated can still participate and try to rig the game. Or maybe the girls just had it out for girls they perceived as tough from the beginning and banded together to make sure that the strong girls didn't have the power? [B][U]Or, maybe, Camila won[/U][/B].[/QUOTE] I shudder at that thought..... BUT who knows, these things happen. I'm just more prone to believe in random selection than believing that she won over stronger girls AND newcomer guys won over stronger vet guys. BTW, I wonder if the Captain has any purpose other than the first selection of their team.... ANd what would happen if a team Captain is sent home.... Just some thoughts.

[QUOTE=El Scorcho;206234]This theory is really dumb and I'll tell you why. On the Ruins, all the guys on the Challengers team were eliminated, they never sent in replacement players for KellyAnne and Sarah for a better chance at the final, so why would they do it here.[/QUOTE] Because this isn't the Ruins?

[QUOTE=cryssy19;206242]I shudder at that thought..... BUT who knows, these things happen. I'm just more prone to believe in random selection than believing that she won over stronger girls AND newcomer guys won over stronger vet guys. BTW, I wonder if the Captain has any purpose other than the first selection of their team.... [B]ANd what would happen if a team Captain is sent home.... [/B] Just some thoughts.[/QUOTE] My two guesses are: 1) the group elects a new captain? Though I wonder how and when they would do it. Then again, there may just be another secret voting session for that. 2) The team is rendered captain-less. As of right now, the only thing I know the captains do is select their team members. Maybe after that they don't matter? Perhaps the team is just left without a captain and life moves on. Good question.

[QUOTE=molds13;206254]As far as I know, the only purpose of the captain was to pick teams. After that, if a team lost their captain, they were just captain-less. [B][U]I can tell you for a fact that the selection of captains was not random and there was a competition for it.[/U][/B][/QUOTE] Wow!!! Thanks for the info.... now, i'm more excited and interested to see how exactly it happens.... :) I have to admit... this season looks kinda good. Darn this 3 weeks until it starts! *shakes fist at heavens* grrr.

On that trailer where Tj says "Okay you guys ready to get started i'd like to welcome you all to cutthroat" anyone else notice the cast was already lined up in their teams?

[QUOTE=molds13;206254]As far as I know, the only purpose of the captain was to pick teams. After that, if a team lost their captain, they were just captain-less. I can tell you for a fact that the selection of captains was not random and there was a competition for it.[/QUOTE] Now that there is most likely not any other purpose of the captain besides picking the teams, the whole captain puzzle doesn't seem so important lol. But because there's a competition, I wanna say Emily is the blue team captain along with Ty. Anybody wanna give their input on these eliminations? I only chose these few because they're the only ones where we know which teams are matched up together. Mission 2: [COLOR=blue][B]Blue[/B][/COLOR] wins [B][COLOR=red]3. Mandi[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=gray]4. JD[/COLOR][/B] So either Ayiiia, Cara Maria, Laurel, Sarah, or Shauvon beat Mandi. And because the teams choose one of their own to go in, I'd think Shauvon or Ayiiia would've got thrown in first from the grey team, and they were the only grey team female not on FM2, so maybe Shauvon sends home Mandi. And Brad, Brandon, Chet, Dunbar, or Tyler sent home JD. Again, for the same reason as above, I'd say either Tyler or Chet were sent in. Mission 4: [COLOR=red][B]Red[/B][/COLOR] wins [B][COLOR=gray]7. Ayiiia[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue]8. Ty[/COLOR][/B] So Emily, Jenn, Katie, or Theresa sent home Ayiiia and either Abe, Dan, or Luke sent Ty home. Mission 8: [COLOR=blue][B]Blue[/B][/COLOR] wins [B][COLOR=red]15. Camila[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=gray]16. Dan[/COLOR][/B] Either Cara Maria, Laurel, or Sarah sent Camila home and either Brad, Dunbar, and Tyler sent home Dan. We can also say that either Brad, Dunbar, Tyler, Abe, or Luke sent Johnny home (unless CT got involved here) and either Tori, Cara Maria, Laurel, or Sarah sent home Theresa (unless Tina comes in here).

[QUOTE=whatsupbra;206257]On that trailer where Tj says "Okay you guys ready to get started i'd like to welcome you all to cutthroat" anyone else notice the cast was already lined up in their teams?[/QUOTE] I don't think they are. There are some players from the red team on the left, but there should be three blondes (Paula, Melinda, and Mandi) but i only see two. From the left it looks like Brandon, Mandi, Chet, Paula/Melinda, someone (and someone else behind hind them), then maybe Jenn, and then Derrick or Tyler, I can't tell who. Plus, there's only nine in that first group.

I also saw the post of Jenn being ****** "saying she wanted to go home already". Was she referring to the challenge maybe. She might of not went home the day she won.. she probably did something else, who knows? All I know is that I saw another post saying she was pumped up for the viewers to watch! That may show how happy she was that she won and wants everybody to see! Also if C.T did go to the Blue Team (which some people been saying) this challenge finals should be declared immediately. Derrick and C.T going for the money. I just want Derrick to win his 4th challenge and be the only 2nd person to do that in challenge history. I dislike the [COLOR=red][B]Red Team[/B][/COLOR] cause I hate Tori and I don't really like Melinda or Tyler... and maybe even Camila... and I have no favorite there. I think the [COLOR=dimgray][B]Gray Team[/B][/COLOR] is alright cause they have Abram, Cara Maria, Dan, Laurel, and Vinny. I love the [COLOR=blue][B]Blue Team[/B][/COLOR] cause my favorite challengers are Derrick and Jenn.. they also have Johny, Katie, and Theresa. Who do you guys want to see win the whole thing?

[QUOTE=CzarEric;206276]I don't think they are. There are some players from the red team on the left, but there should be three blondes (Paula, Melinda, and Mandi) but i only see two. From the left it looks like Brandon, Mandi, Chet, Paula/Melinda, someone (and someone else behind hind them), then maybe Jenn, and then Derrick or Tyler, I can't tell who. Plus, there's only nine in that first group.[/QUOTE] No, actually there are 10 in the first group. Enlarge the window and you'll find the following: (From Left to Right) [COLOR="Red"]Group 1-Red Team[/COLOR] 1st row-Brandon, Mandi, Chet, Melinda, Paula, Dunbar, Camilla (in white hoodie), and Tyler 2nd row- Tori (between Paula and Melinda;behind them), and Brad (directly behind Paula; you can see his arm folded, as his arms are crossed; he is wearing a short-sleeved black shirt) Total=10 [COLOR="Gray"]Group 2-Gray Team[/COLOR] 1st row-Dan, Sarah, Vinny, Cara Maria, Shevaun, JD, Laurel, Ayiiia, Luke, and Abram Total=10 [COLOR="Blue"]Group 3-Blue Team[/COLOR] Derek, and Katie Total=only 10 shown (in frame)... Unless I am wrong on any part of the order list, I believe that they are appearing in their designated teams! Now...I need a break....Oh....AND... GO TEAM GREY!!!!

[QUOTE=kdub90;206295]No, actually there are 10 in the first group. Enlarge the window and you'll find the following: (From Left to Right) [COLOR="Red"]Group 1-Red Team[/COLOR] 1st row-Brandon, Mandi, Chet, Melinda, Paula, Dunbar, Camilla (in white hoodie), and Tyler 2nd row- Tori (between Paula and Melinda;behind them), and Brad (directly behind Paula; you can see his arm folded, as his arms are crossed; he is wearing a short-sleeved black shirt) Total=10 [COLOR="Gray"]Group 2-Gray Team[/COLOR] 1st row-Dan, Sarah, Vinny, Cara Maria, Shevaun, JD, Laurel, Ayiiia, Luke, and Abram Total=10 [COLOR="Blue"]Group 3-Blue Team[/COLOR] Derek, and Katie Total=only 10 shown (in frame)... Unless I am wrong on any part of the order list, I believe that they are appearing in their designated teams! Now...I need a break....Oh....AND... GO TEAM GREY!!!![/QUOTE] Ah, now I see it. For some reason I thought Paula was a brunette wearing a head band or something. This is my response to them being set up: The scene is clearly taking place in the evening. I don't think I've seen a challenge where the first thing they do is at night. I'm going to guess that the competitors were not informed that the Challenge was titled Cutthroat until after the captains had selected teams and they had gone to their house. I'd say there was the captains' competition earlier in the day, then they all went to the house to put their stuff away, and then they went to the Gulag for the introduction of "Cutthroat." I guess they could have gone to the house after that scene, too, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the cast members mingling for a bit and talking about what they're doing there before heading to the Gulag. They did that with the Duel, given there was a big monitor in the living room that said THE DUEL on it (then again, they still had no idea what the Duel was).

[QUOTE=CzarEric;206300]Ah, now I see it. For some reason I thought Paula was a brunette wearing a head band or something. This is my response to them being set up: The scene is clearly taking place in the evening. I don't think I've seen a challenge where the first thing they do is at night. I'm going to guess that the competitors were not informed that the Challenge was titled Cutthroat until after the captains had selected teams and they had gone to their house. I'd say there was the captains' competition earlier in the day, then they all went to the house to put their stuff away, and then they went to the Gulag for the introduction of "Cutthroat." I guess they could have gone to the house after that scene, too, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the cast members mingling for a bit and talking about what they're doing there before heading to the Gulag. They did that with the Duel, given there was a big monitor in the living room that said THE DUEL on it (then again, they still had no idea what the Duel was).[/QUOTE] Well, obviously I don't have too much info about the gulag, however when CT enters, it looks like he's going into a cave! So, maybe its indoors. But then again, on The Ruins, they had a dungeon-like entrance, and they had an open ceiling. Yet, they simulated rain. IDK! I'm just assuming its inside!

To me it just looked like CT was walking from a dark area to a place where it was well lit. A cave wouldn't really go along with a gulag.

When they showed CT during that commercial, I wonder if the reactions of Brad, Dunbar, and I believe it was Paula were their actual reactions to seeing him there of if they were edited in... because they looked like he was the last person they'd expect to show up. Kind of a sticky situation here... but there was some chatter before about how some castmembers were going to refuse to do a challenge if CT was going to be present because they were afraid of him becoming violent again. Well, say some of those people agreed to do this challenge with the assumption he wasn't going to be there, and then he's suddenly brought in as a replacement in the middle of the season. Wonder if that ruffled any feathers with any castmembers or not.