Unpopular I don't mind Leroy for siding with bananas, that's the point if the **** game, to make allies.
Exactly...like obviously you are going to work with someone you are close with off the show.
And how's that worked out for Leroy?
Well not too bad. He has made it to 2 finals and extremely far on FA. Rivals 2 he made it more than half way.
He made it far on Rivals because of Mike (layup) and if Leroy didn't win the final mission, they would have went in hands down. Rivals 2, the first time Leroy and Ty went in shouldhave not happened if Bananas would have talked to Diem/Aneesa and said vote for either Jordan/Marlon or Knight/Preston. Yes, Ms. Fail played a role in it as well but Bananas could have secured Leroy's place if he talked to Diem. We can't even count Free Agents because out of the 10 missions he did, he only won 2 missions and was in the draw 6 out of the other 8 times he didn't win.
but Diem trusted Wes more than she did Bananas. so she would have still stuck for that vote.
and if you also remember her OWN partner Aneesa tried to convince her not to vote in Ty & Leroy. so it wouldn't have mattered if Bananas talked to Diem/Aneesa, cuz Wes basically secured his master plan of getting rid of Ty and Roylee.
Why do people like Averey? She was so dumb in Exes II like the whole "they're voting us in because they don't trust you Johnny but they loveee me" was childish af and just showed how little understanding she had of the game. Also her being all *****y to Nany even though she and Johnny were broken up. Averey's the one who ACTUALLY cheated on him. Such a hypocrite. She's not really attractive either, she looks 12 years old (and acts like it too). I mean she's a decent competitor but I wouldn't miss her if she never competed on another Challenge
Why do people like Averey? She was so dumb in Exes II like the whole "they're voting us in because they don't trust you Johnny but they loveee me" was childish af and just showed how little understanding she had of the game. Also her being all *****y to Nany even though she and Johnny were broken up. Averey's the one who ACTUALLY cheated on him. Such a hypocrite. She's not really attractive either, she looks 12 years old (and acts like it too). I mean she's a decent competitor but I wouldn't miss her if she never competed on another Challenge
i agree. i really liked her on real world portland and found her to be sensible and levelheaded for the most part - on their season, johnny was the one who came across as immature. but on exes II, i felt the tables were turned and johnny seemed much more mature than her. even in the press they did, she was like an excited little kid saying oh no one knew i was coming!! and johnny was just like actually everyone knew... so...
most of the time on exes II i found her embarrassing to watch. i think a lot of the things that were said about nany were really uncalled for - especially given how upset the people who said them were later in the season when they were called things that were, comparably, MUCH more tame to the insults they were whispering behind her back
anyone looks good compared to no personality, unremarkable, less charisma than a corpse reily
also she is attractive whether oyu like it nor
Johnny's personality was called "get this clingy *** 12 year old away from me" and it was hilarious.
Also I agree, watching Averey gave me legit second hand embarr***ment she was so lame. And Nany doesn't deserve any of the shit she gets from other girls. Being a ho aint a bad thing **** what is this the 18th century?
Why do people like Averey? She was so dumb in Exes II like the whole "they're voting us in because they don't trust you Johnny but they loveee me" was childish af and just showed how little understanding she had of the game. Also her being all *****y to Nany even though she and Johnny were broken up. Averey's the one who ACTUALLY cheated on him. Such a hypocrite. She's not really attractive either, she looks 12 years old (and acts like it too). I mean she's a decent competitor but I wouldn't miss her if she never competed on another Challenge
How can you say she ACTUALLY cheated, unless you were there? You're choosing the believe the male's opinion and honestly it's not a fact so that point is kind of null. Reilly broke up with Averey the day before he left for Free Agents and jumped right into it with Nany, that's disrespectful and would give anybody the right to be upset. Not really a hypocrite at all..
Averey was also a rookie so her understanding of the game wasn't meant to be top notch yet. Not really an excuse because she was 100% wrong but still, first challenge and she still competed well.
And I'm not one of the people here who are diehard in love with her and how hot she is, but she's a very attractive girl.
anyone looks good compared to no personality, unremarkable, less charisma than a corpse reily
also she is attractive whether oyu like it nor
Johnny's personality was called "get this clingy *** 12 year old away from me" and it was hilarious.
Also I agree, watching Averey gave me legit second hand embarr***ment she was so lame. And Nany doesn't deserve any of the shit she gets from other girls. Being a ho aint a bad thing **** what is this the 18th century?
Since when has being a ho ever been a good thing? It hasn't been any less bad than it was 300 years ago. And what shit does Nany get that isn't true? It's not like people have been making up lies about her, they're just calling her out on her promiscuity.
Why do people like Averey? She was so dumb in Exes II like the whole "they're voting us in because they don't trust you Johnny but they loveee me" was childish af and just showed how little understanding she had of the game. Also her being all *****y to Nany even though she and Johnny were broken up. Averey's the one who ACTUALLY cheated on him. Such a hypocrite. She's not really attractive either, she looks 12 years old (and acts like it too). I mean she's a decent competitor but I wouldn't miss her if she never competed on another Challenge
How can you say she ACTUALLY cheated, unless you were there? You're choosing the believe the male's opinion and honestly it's not a fact so that point is kind of null. Reilly broke up with Averey the day before he left for Free Agents and jumped right into it with Nany, that's disrespectful and would give anybody the right to be upset. Not really a hypocrite at all..
Averey was also a rookie so her understanding of the game wasn't meant to be top notch yet. Not really an excuse because she was 100% wrong but still, first challenge and she still competed well.
And I'm not one of the people here who are diehard in love with her and how hot she is, but she's a very attractive girl.
I wouldn't trust anybody, male or female, who said anything like: "I was caught in several compromising situations but IT WASN'T WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE I SWEAR".
How is it disrespectful? Is there some magic "right" amount of time you're supposed to wait between breaking up with someone and hooking up with someone else? Pray tell, what is the exact correct amount of time after which it's no longer "disrespectful"?
anyone looks good compared to no personality, unremarkable, less charisma than a corpse reily
also she is attractive whether oyu like it nor
Johnny's personality was called "get this clingy *** 12 year old away from me" and it was hilarious.
Also I agree, watching Averey gave me legit second hand embarr***ment she was so lame. And Nany doesn't deserve any of the shit she gets from other girls. Being a ho aint a bad thing **** what is this the 18th century?
Since when has being a ho ever been a good thing? It hasn't been any less bad than it was 300 years ago. And what shit does Nany get that isn't true? It's not like people have been making up lies about her, they're just calling her out on her promiscuity.
To point out promiscuity as though it's some type of character flaw or reason not to be friends with someone is ridiculous, IMO. Safe, casual *** doesn't hurt anyone and it absolutely doesn't make someone "less than"
Why do people like Averey? She was so dumb in Exes II like the whole "they're voting us in because they don't trust you Johnny but they loveee me" was childish af and just showed how little understanding she had of the game. Also her being all *****y to Nany even though she and Johnny were broken up. Averey's the one who ACTUALLY cheated on him. Such a hypocrite. She's not really attractive either, she looks 12 years old (and acts like it too). I mean she's a decent competitor but I wouldn't miss her if she never competed on another Challenge
How can you say she ACTUALLY cheated, unless you were there? You're choosing the believe the male's opinion and honestly it's not a fact so that point is kind of null. Reilly broke up with Averey the day before he left for Free Agents and jumped right into it with Nany, that's disrespectful and would give anybody the right to be upset. Not really a hypocrite at all..
Averey was also a rookie so her understanding of the game wasn't meant to be top notch yet. Not really an excuse because she was 100% wrong but still, first challenge and she still competed well.
And I'm not one of the people here who are diehard in love with her and how hot she is, but she's a very attractive girl.
I wouldn't trust anybody, male or female, who said anything like: "I was caught in several compromising situations but IT WASN'T WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE I SWEAR".
How is it disrespectful? Is there some magic "right" amount of time you're supposed to wait between breaking up with someone and hooking up with someone else? Pray tell, what is the exact correct amount of time after which it's no longer "disrespectful"?
Attractive is subjective I guess.
If someone ends a relationship and days later is already sleeping around, that's a huge kick in the gut to the person who was broken up with. How can they believe that the relationship was meaningful if it took such a short amount of time for their ex to stick their **** in someone else? And to do it on television is completely disrespectful. Imagine how Averey's family must have viewed that. They find out that Averey has her heart broken, Reilly has left the country, and months later they found out he wasn't heartbroken at all and was perfectly fine. I've been on both sides of a break up after a serious relationship and when family matters, they are curious and it's not always cut and dry.
I would never break up with someone after a serious relationship and days later sleep with someone else, especially not on national television. But maybe I'm just a nice guy..
Why do people like Averey? She was so dumb in Exes II like the whole "they're voting us in because they don't trust you Johnny but they loveee me" was childish af and just showed how little understanding she had of the game. Also her being all *****y to Nany even though she and Johnny were broken up. Averey's the one who ACTUALLY cheated on him. Such a hypocrite. She's not really attractive either, she looks 12 years old (and acts like it too). I mean she's a decent competitor but I wouldn't miss her if she never competed on another Challenge
How can you say she ACTUALLY cheated, unless you were there? You're choosing the believe the male's opinion and honestly it's not a fact so that point is kind of null. Reilly broke up with Averey the day before he left for Free Agents and jumped right into it with Nany, that's disrespectful and would give anybody the right to be upset. Not really a hypocrite at all..
Averey was also a rookie so her understanding of the game wasn't meant to be top notch yet. Not really an excuse because she was 100% wrong but still, first challenge and she still competed well.
And I'm not one of the people here who are diehard in love with her and how hot she is, but she's a very attractive girl.
I wouldn't trust anybody, male or female, who said anything like: "I was caught in several compromising situations but IT WASN'T WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE I SWEAR".
How is it disrespectful? Is there some magic "right" amount of time you're supposed to wait between breaking up with someone and hooking up with someone else? Pray tell, what is the exact correct amount of time after which it's no longer "disrespectful"?
Attractive is subjective I guess.
If someone ends a relationship and days later is already sleeping around, that's a huge kick in the gut to the person who was broken up with. How can they believe that the relationship was meaningful if it took such a short amount of time for their ex to stick their **** in someone else? And to do it on television is completely disrespectful. Imagine how Averey's family must have viewed that. They find out that Averey has her heart broken, Reilly has left the country, and months later they found out he wasn't heartbroken at all and was perfectly fine. I've been on both sides of a break up after a serious relationship and when family matters, they are curious and it's not always cut and dry.
I would never break up with someone after a serious relationship and days later sleep with someone else, especially not on national television. But maybe I'm just a nice guy..
obviously not THAT nice since you think nany deserved to be vilely ridiculed for doing nothing wrong on national television. yet you don't think averey deserved to see Johnny hookup with her? I think the word you're looking for is "hypocrite"
Why do people like Averey? She was so dumb in Exes II like the whole "they're voting us in because they don't trust you Johnny but they loveee me" was childish af and just showed how little understanding she had of the game. Also her being all *****y to Nany even though she and Johnny were broken up. Averey's the one who ACTUALLY cheated on him. Such a hypocrite. She's not really attractive either, she looks 12 years old (and acts like it too). I mean she's a decent competitor but I wouldn't miss her if she never competed on another Challenge
How can you say she ACTUALLY cheated, unless you were there? You're choosing the believe the male's opinion and honestly it's not a fact so that point is kind of null. Reilly broke up with Averey the day before he left for Free Agents and jumped right into it with Nany, that's disrespectful and would give anybody the right to be upset. Not really a hypocrite at all..
Averey was also a rookie so her understanding of the game wasn't meant to be top notch yet. Not really an excuse because she was 100% wrong but still, first challenge and she still competed well.
And I'm not one of the people here who are diehard in love with her and how hot she is, but she's a very attractive girl.
I wouldn't trust anybody, male or female, who said anything like: "I was caught in several compromising situations but IT WASN'T WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE I SWEAR".
How is it disrespectful? Is there some magic "right" amount of time you're supposed to wait between breaking up with someone and hooking up with someone else? Pray tell, what is the exact correct amount of time after which it's no longer "disrespectful"?
Attractive is subjective I guess.
If someone ends a relationship and days later is already sleeping around, that's a huge kick in the gut to the person who was broken up with. How can they believe that the relationship was meaningful if it took such a short amount of time for their ex to stick their **** in someone else? And to do it on television is completely disrespectful. Imagine how Averey's family must have viewed that. They find out that Averey has her heart broken, Reilly has left the country, and months later they found out he wasn't heartbroken at all and was perfectly fine. I've been on both sides of a break up after a serious relationship and when family matters, they are curious and it's not always cut and dry.
I would never break up with someone after a serious relationship and days later sleep with someone else, especially not on national television. But maybe I'm just a nice guy..
are you kidding? imagine how JOHNNY felt! forget for a second that we don't actually know for sure whether Averey cheated on him. Reilly sure seemed to BELIEVE that she did, strongly enough that he broke up with her. So imagine how hurt/angry/upset he felt. When people feel hurt, angry, upset, etc, they deal with it in different ways. Him hooking up with Nany was a totally natural reaction to feeling angry at Averey or betrayed by her. Just because he's on national TV doesn't mean he's not allowed to be human. Doesn't make him a bad guy, and it doesn't mean their relationship wasnt "meaningful" to him or that he wasn't "heartbroken". He very well could have been, and his actions would still have been understandeable and natural.
Averey was right.... Wes was close.to her but knew Johnny was with bananas, he wanted to send a message. Wes plays like a Mafia boss, he sent them to show everyone what happens if you side against him.
anyone looks good compared to no personality, unremarkable, less charisma than a corpse reily
also she is attractive whether oyu like it nor
Johnny's personality was called "get this clingy *** 12 year old away from me" and it was hilarious.
Also I agree, watching Averey gave me legit second hand embarr***ment she was so lame. And Nany doesn't deserve any of the shit she gets from other girls. Being a ho aint a bad thing **** what is this the 18th century?
Since when has being a ho ever been a good thing? It hasn't been any less bad than it was 300 years ago. And what shit does Nany get that isn't true? It's not like people have been making up lies about her, they're just calling her out on her promiscuity.
To point out promiscuity as though it's some type of character flaw or reason not to be friends with someone is ridiculous, IMO. Safe, casual *** doesn't hurt anyone and it absolutely doesn't make someone "less than"
I agree that promiscuity doesnt make someone inferior, but I do think it's something that one should not be proud of. There is still a negative connotation to that term, and some people can internalize it as a character flaw. I look at it like this; people can call Averey "clingy" in an attempt to insult her, but by no means does that make her an inferior person. The same thing would apply for Nany and her promiscuity. Both things might be true, and both traits might not really things to be proud of, but they aren't any lesser because of that.
Why do people like Averey? She was so dumb in Exes II like the whole "they're voting us in because they don't trust you Johnny but they loveee me" was childish af and just showed how little understanding she had of the game. Also her being all *****y to Nany even though she and Johnny were broken up. Averey's the one who ACTUALLY cheated on him. Such a hypocrite. She's not really attractive either, she looks 12 years old (and acts like it too). I mean she's a decent competitor but I wouldn't miss her if she never competed on another Challenge
How can you say she ACTUALLY cheated, unless you were there? You're choosing the believe the male's opinion and honestly it's not a fact so that point is kind of null. Reilly broke up with Averey the day before he left for Free Agents and jumped right into it with Nany, that's disrespectful and would give anybody the right to be upset. Not really a hypocrite at all..
Averey was also a rookie so her understanding of the game wasn't meant to be top notch yet. Not really an excuse because she was 100% wrong but still, first challenge and she still competed well.
And I'm not one of the people here who are diehard in love with her and how hot she is, but she's a very attractive girl.
I wouldn't trust anybody, male or female, who said anything like: "I was caught in several compromising situations but IT WASN'T WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE I SWEAR".
How is it disrespectful? Is there some magic "right" amount of time you're supposed to wait between breaking up with someone and hooking up with someone else? Pray tell, what is the exact correct amount of time after which it's no longer "disrespectful"?
Attractive is subjective I guess.
If someone ends a relationship and days later is already sleeping around, that's a huge kick in the gut to the person who was broken up with. How can they believe that the relationship was meaningful if it took such a short amount of time for their ex to stick their **** in someone else? And to do it on television is completely disrespectful. Imagine how Averey's family must have viewed that. They find out that Averey has her heart broken, Reilly has left the country, and months later they found out he wasn't heartbroken at all and was perfectly fine. I've been on both sides of a break up after a serious relationship and when family matters, they are curious and it's not always cut and dry.
I would never break up with someone after a serious relationship and days later sleep with someone else, especially not on national television. But maybe I'm just a nice guy..
obviously not THAT nice since you think nany deserved to be vilely ridiculed for doing nothing wrong on national television. yet you don't think averey deserved to see Johnny hookup with her? I think the word you're looking for is "hypocrite"
Please point out where I indicated Nany deserved to be degraded like she was...
Averey was right.... Wes was close.to her but knew Johnny was with bananas, he wanted to send a message. Wes plays like a Mafia boss, he sent them to show everyone what happens if you side against him.
did not he send him in bc he was really popular? Johnny R is best friends with Jordan and Zach. He was their number 1. Also thanks to him Jordan and Zach worked together. Plus he was friends with Bananas. Getting rid of him was REALLY smart. Wes after that got Zach to be his number one.
IMO Sarah from Brooklyn had the strongest rookie season of any Challenge competitor considering she didn't debut in an era where like 10 people could win a final (I'm looking at you Gauntlet).
IMO Sarah from Brooklyn had the strongest rookie season of any Challenge competitor considering she didn't debut in an era where like 10 people could win a final (I'm looking at you Gauntlet).
IMO Sarah from Brooklyn had the strongest rookie season of any Challenge competitor considering she didn't debut in an era where like 10 people could win a final (I'm looking at you Gauntlet).
Yeah she did! So did Devyn!
That's true but I also mean in terms of Sarah kicking *** at pretty much every mission, winning two eliminations and coming super close to winning against 4 guys in the final (which she didn't b/c KellyAnne on the balance beam lol). **** impressive
IMO Sarah from Brooklyn had the strongest rookie season of any Challenge competitor considering she didn't debut in an era where like 10 people could win a final (I'm looking at you Gauntlet).
Yeah she did! So did Devyn!
That's true but I also mean in terms of Sarah kicking *** at pretty much every mission, winning two eliminations and coming super close to winning against 4 guys in the final (which she didn't b/c KellyAnne on the balance beam lol). **** impressive
Yeah for sure. Sarah, Laurel, Camila, and Cooke are the most recents who I remember having a pretty good rookie showing.
IMO Sarah from Brooklyn had the strongest rookie season of any Challenge competitor considering she didn't debut in an era where like 10 people could win a final (I'm looking at you Gauntlet).
Yeah she did! So did Devyn!
That's true but I also mean in terms of Sarah kicking *** at pretty much every mission, winning two eliminations and coming super close to winning against 4 guys in the final (which she didn't b/c KellyAnne on the balance beam lol). **** impressive
Yeah for sure. Sarah, Laurel, Camila, and Cooke are the most recents who I remember having a pretty good rookie showing.
IMO Sarah from Brooklyn had the strongest rookie season of any Challenge competitor considering she didn't debut in an era where like 10 people could win a final (I'm looking at you Gauntlet).
Yeah she did! So did Devyn!
That's true but I also mean in terms of Sarah kicking *** at pretty much every mission, winning two eliminations and coming super close to winning against 4 guys in the final (which she didn't b/c KellyAnne on the balance beam lol). **** impressive
Yeah for sure. Sarah, Laurel, Camila, and Cooke are the most recents who I remember having a pretty good rookie showing.
I would also add Brittini to that list! She did great on The Duel II. I wish she came back. I was rooting for her and Landon to win. I kind of wish they dated haha
IMO Sarah from Brooklyn had the strongest rookie season of any Challenge competitor considering she didn't debut in an era where like 10 people could win a final (I'm looking at you Gauntlet).
Yeah she did! So did Devyn!
That's true but I also mean in terms of Sarah kicking *** at pretty much every mission, winning two eliminations and coming super close to winning against 4 guys in the final (which she didn't b/c KellyAnne on the balance beam lol). **** impressive
Yeah for sure. Sarah, Laurel, Camila, and Cooke are the most recents who I remember having a pretty good rookie showing.
I would also add Brittini to that list! She did great on The Duel II. I wish she came back. I was rooting for her and Landon to win. I kind of wish they dated haha
Yeah she did great! If I remember correctly Diem did good on Fresh Meat but I haven't watched that in a while.
Leroy, Johnny, Jordan, marlon, zach, frank and Jonna had nice rookie seasons.
Yeah! Tori also had a nice showing. Ashley K as well even though she's wall paper lol. I'm hoping the next rookies to have good starts are Sylvia, Madison, and Jenny.
Even though people don't want to admit it, Jenna had a decent rookie season. She performed consistently in challenges and even though it was unintentional, her hook up with Zach helped her a lot to get to the end. Sometimes being portrayed as stupid pays off
Leroy, Johnny, Jordan, marlon, zach, frank and Jonna had nice rookie seasons.
Yeah! Tori also had a nice showing. Ashley K as well even though she's wall paper lol. I'm hoping the next rookies to have good starts are Sylvia, Madison, and Jenny.
Even though people don't want to admit it, Jenna had a decent rookie season. She performed consistently in challenges and even though it was unintentional, her hook up with Zach helped her a lot to get to the end. Sometimes being portrayed as stupid pays off
Why do people like Averey? She was so dumb in Exes II like the whole "they're voting us in because they don't trust you Johnny but they loveee me" was childish af and just showed how little understanding she had of the game. Also her being all *****y to Nany even though she and Johnny were broken up. Averey's the one who ACTUALLY cheated on him. Such a hypocrite. She's not really attractive either, she looks 12 years old (and acts like it too). I mean she's a decent competitor but I wouldn't miss her if she never competed on another Challenge
How can you say she ACTUALLY cheated, unless you were there? You're choosing the believe the male's opinion and honestly it's not a fact so that point is kind of null. Reilly broke up with Averey the day before he left for Free Agents and jumped right into it with Nany, that's disrespectful and would give anybody the right to be upset. Not really a hypocrite at all..
Averey was also a rookie so her understanding of the game wasn't meant to be top notch yet. Not really an excuse because she was 100% wrong but still, first challenge and she still competed well.
And I'm not one of the people here who are diehard in love with her and how hot she is, but she's a very attractive girl.
I wouldn't trust anybody, male or female, who said anything like: "I was caught in several compromising situations but IT WASN'T WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE I SWEAR".
How is it disrespectful? Is there some magic "right" amount of time you're supposed to wait between breaking up with someone and hooking up with someone else? Pray tell, what is the exact correct amount of time after which it's no longer "disrespectful"?
Attractive is subjective I guess.
all she means by this is that she was friendly but still innocent with said guy she supposedly cheated with but to someone like reilly who is a loser, near-virgin that hardly gets attention, it can be misinterpreted as cheating
cheating isnt an objective term. everyone has different definitions of what they consider as crossing the line. reilly is ugly, insecure, awkward and was probably largely ignored his entire life by people and especially women so his standards of "cheating" and what classifies as affection are probably waaaay more strict compared to avery who probably gets LOADS of attention from people and doesnt think anything of it. ugly people tend to read into hugs, kisses, eye contact, talking to another person of the opposite ***, etc. a lot more since they get it so sparingly. reilly seems like the type of guy that would probably consider a girl adding a guy on facebook as cheating.
she probably just flirted with the guy and told him he was ******* but never had *** with him which was enough to make reilly think that she was acting inapproriaetly
Why do people like Averey? She was so dumb in Exes II like the whole "they're voting us in because they don't trust you Johnny but they loveee me" was childish af and just showed how little understanding she had of the game. Also her being all *****y to Nany even though she and Johnny were broken up. Averey's the one who ACTUALLY cheated on him. Such a hypocrite. She's not really attractive either, she looks 12 years old (and acts like it too). I mean she's a decent competitor but I wouldn't miss her if she never competed on another Challenge
How can you say she ACTUALLY cheated, unless you were there? You're choosing the believe the male's opinion and honestly it's not a fact so that point is kind of null. Reilly broke up with Averey the day before he left for Free Agents and jumped right into it with Nany, that's disrespectful and would give anybody the right to be upset. Not really a hypocrite at all..
Averey was also a rookie so her understanding of the game wasn't meant to be top notch yet. Not really an excuse because she was 100% wrong but still, first challenge and she still competed well.
And I'm not one of the people here who are diehard in love with her and how hot she is, but she's a very attractive girl.
I wouldn't trust anybody, male or female, who said anything like: "I was caught in several compromising situations but IT WASN'T WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE I SWEAR".
How is it disrespectful? Is there some magic "right" amount of time you're supposed to wait between breaking up with someone and hooking up with someone else? Pray tell, what is the exact correct amount of time after which it's no longer "disrespectful"?
Attractive is subjective I guess.
all she means by this is that she was friendly but still innocent with said guy she supposedly cheated with but to someone like reilly who is a loser, near-virgin that hardly gets attention, it can be misinterpreted as cheating
cheating isnt an objective term. everyone has different definitions of what they consider as crossing the line. reilly is ugly, insecure, awkward and was probably largely ignored his entire life by people and especially women so his standards of "cheating" and what classifies as affection are probably waaaay more strict compared to avery who probably gets LOADS of attention from people and doesnt think anything of it. ugly people tend to read into hugs, kisses, eye contact, talking to another person of the opposite ***, etc. a lot more since they get it so sparingly. reilly seems like the type of guy that would probably consider a girl adding a guy on facebook as cheating.
she probably just flirted with the guy and told him he was ******* but never had *** with him which was enough to make reilly think that she was acting inapproriaetly
I think Cara Maria could be one of the best girls in challenge history if she wasn't that mentally weak. She is very strong!
I think besides the mental weakness, she's also kinda unathletic. She's clearly strong but missions are never like "who can hold an L-sit the longest". She's not particularly coordinated, agile, flexible, balanced etc. Never mind the issues with swimming and heights. I think if/when she wins, it'll be in a season like Bloodlines, where she has very little real competition. But she'll never be up there with Rachel, Evelyn, Laurel, Emily, Jody and even Cooke I'd say. She's definitely in a tier right under them though because of how well she's conditioned herself recently.
but Diem trusted Wes more than she did Bananas. so she would have still stuck for that vote.
and if you also remember her OWN partner Aneesa tried to convince her not to vote in Ty & Leroy. so it wouldn't have mattered if Bananas talked to Diem/Aneesa, cuz Wes basically secured his master plan of getting rid of Ty and Roylee.
Why do people like Averey? She was so dumb in Exes II like the whole "they're voting us in because they don't trust you Johnny but they loveee me" was childish af and just showed how little understanding she had of the game. Also her being all *****y to Nany even though she and Johnny were broken up. Averey's the one who ACTUALLY cheated on him. Such a hypocrite. She's not really attractive either, she looks 12 years old (and acts like it too). I mean she's a decent competitor but I wouldn't miss her if she never competed on another Challenge
i agree. i really liked her on real world portland and found her to be sensible and levelheaded for the most part - on their season, johnny was the one who came across as immature. but on exes II, i felt the tables were turned and johnny seemed much more mature than her. even in the press they did, she was like an excited little kid saying oh no one knew i was coming!! and johnny was just like actually everyone knew... so...
most of the time on exes II i found her embarrassing to watch. i think a lot of the things that were said about nany were really uncalled for - especially given how upset the people who said them were later in the season when they were called things that were, comparably, MUCH more tame to the insults they were whispering behind her back
anyone looks good compared to no personality, unremarkable, less charisma than a corpse reily
also she is attractive whether oyu like it nor
Johnny's personality was called "get this clingy *** 12 year old away from me" and it was hilarious.
Also I agree, watching Averey gave me legit second hand embarr***ment she was so lame. And Nany doesn't deserve any of the shit she gets from other girls. Being a ho aint a bad thing **** what is this the 18th century?
How can you say she ACTUALLY cheated, unless you were there? You're choosing the believe the male's opinion and honestly it's not a fact so that point is kind of null. Reilly broke up with Averey the day before he left for Free Agents and jumped right into it with Nany, that's disrespectful and would give anybody the right to be upset. Not really a hypocrite at all..
Averey was also a rookie so her understanding of the game wasn't meant to be top notch yet. Not really an excuse because she was 100% wrong but still, first challenge and she still competed well.
And I'm not one of the people here who are diehard in love with her and how hot she is, but she's a very attractive girl.
Since when has being a ho ever been a good thing? It hasn't been any less bad than it was 300 years ago. And what shit does Nany get that isn't true? It's not like people have been making up lies about her, they're just calling her out on her promiscuity.
I wouldn't trust anybody, male or female, who said anything like: "I was caught in several compromising situations but IT WASN'T WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE I SWEAR".
How is it disrespectful? Is there some magic "right" amount of time you're supposed to wait between breaking up with someone and hooking up with someone else? Pray tell, what is the exact correct amount of time after which it's no longer "disrespectful"?
Attractive is subjective I guess.
To point out promiscuity as though it's some type of character flaw or reason not to be friends with someone is ridiculous, IMO. Safe, casual *** doesn't hurt anyone and it absolutely doesn't make someone "less than"
If someone ends a relationship and days later is already sleeping around, that's a huge kick in the gut to the person who was broken up with. How can they believe that the relationship was meaningful if it took such a short amount of time for their ex to stick their **** in someone else? And to do it on television is completely disrespectful. Imagine how Averey's family must have viewed that. They find out that Averey has her heart broken, Reilly has left the country, and months later they found out he wasn't heartbroken at all and was perfectly fine. I've been on both sides of a break up after a serious relationship and when family matters, they are curious and it's not always cut and dry.
I would never break up with someone after a serious relationship and days later sleep with someone else, especially not on national television. But maybe I'm just a nice guy..
obviously not THAT nice since you think nany deserved to be vilely ridiculed for doing nothing wrong on national television. yet you don't think averey deserved to see Johnny hookup with her? I think the word you're looking for is "hypocrite"
Averey was right.... Wes was close.to her but knew Johnny was with bananas, he wanted to send a message. Wes plays like a Mafia boss, he sent them to show everyone what happens if you side against him.
I agree that promiscuity doesnt make someone inferior, but I do think it's something that one should not be proud of. There is still a negative connotation to that term, and some people can internalize it as a character flaw. I look at it like this; people can call Averey "clingy" in an attempt to insult her, but by no means does that make her an inferior person. The same thing would apply for Nany and her promiscuity. Both things might be true, and both traits might not really things to be proud of, but they aren't any lesser because of that.
Please point out where I indicated Nany deserved to be degraded like she was...
did not he send him in bc he was really popular? Johnny R is best friends with Jordan and Zach. He was their number 1. Also thanks to him Jordan and Zach worked together. Plus he was friends with Bananas. Getting rid of him was REALLY smart. Wes after that got Zach to be his number one.
IMO Sarah from Brooklyn had the strongest rookie season of any Challenge competitor considering she didn't debut in an era where like 10 people could win a final (I'm looking at you Gauntlet).
Yeah she did! So did Devyn!
That's true but I also mean in terms of Sarah kicking *** at pretty much every mission, winning two eliminations and coming super close to winning against 4 guys in the final (which she didn't b/c KellyAnne on the balance beam lol). **** impressive
Yeah for sure. Sarah, Laurel, Camila, and Cooke are the most recents who I remember having a pretty good rookie showing.
Totally forgot about Cooke
she killed it
I would also add Brittini to that list! She did great on The Duel II. I wish she came back. I was rooting for her and Landon to win. I kind of wish they dated haha
Yeah she did great! If I remember correctly Diem did good on Fresh Meat but I haven't watched that in a while.
Leroy, Johnny, Jordan, marlon, zach, frank and Jonna had nice rookie seasons.
Yeah! Tori also had a nice showing. Ashley K as well even though she's wall paper lol. I'm hoping the next rookies to have good starts are Sylvia, Madison, and Jenny.
Even though people don't want to admit it, Jenna had a decent rookie season. She performed consistently in challenges and even though it was unintentional, her hook up with Zach helped her a lot to get to the end. Sometimes being portrayed as stupid pays off
I love Jenna!!!
all she means by this is that she was friendly but still innocent with said guy she supposedly cheated with but to someone like reilly who is a loser, near-virgin that hardly gets attention, it can be misinterpreted as cheating
cheating isnt an objective term. everyone has different definitions of what they consider as crossing the line. reilly is ugly, insecure, awkward and was probably largely ignored his entire life by people and especially women so his standards of "cheating" and what classifies as affection are probably waaaay more strict compared to avery who probably gets LOADS of attention from people and doesnt think anything of it. ugly people tend to read into hugs, kisses, eye contact, talking to another person of the opposite ***, etc. a lot more since they get it so sparingly. reilly seems like the type of guy that would probably consider a girl adding a guy on facebook as cheating.
she probably just flirted with the guy and told him he was ******* but never had *** with him which was enough to make reilly think that she was acting inapproriaetly
*****!!!!!!! This had me in tears!
I think Cara Maria could be one of the best girls in challenge history if she wasn't that mentally weak. She is very strong!
I think besides the mental weakness, she's also kinda unathletic. She's clearly strong but missions are never like "who can hold an L-sit the longest". She's not particularly coordinated, agile, flexible, balanced etc. Never mind the issues with swimming and heights. I think if/when she wins, it'll be in a season like Bloodlines, where she has very little real competition. But she'll never be up there with Rachel, Evelyn, Laurel, Emily, Jody and even Cooke I'd say. She's definitely in a tier right under them though because of how well she's conditioned herself recently.
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