Also jenna was carried to the final beacuse everyone knew they would beat her and jay . Cara was eliminated first beacuse everyone knew her and darrel were the strongest team there . So its a big difference
Jenn is honestly probably the competitor without a win who deserves one more than any other competitor. Aneesa is up there too, and Cara Maria can make an argument as well, but if anything, Jenn has had some bad luck.
The Island- JED were winning that season from day one and everyone knew it. Johnny had the only chance of losing, and almost did twice, but Kenny and Derrick could've been given the money on day two. I look at the cast and think that every single person would've chosen Derrick as one of their teammates in the final. Evelyn was the sure guarantee as the fourth option, no one else stood a chance when a deal is in favor of the three masterminds of the season.
Rivals- Mandi isn't a slouch, but given the cast, she was a weak competitor. Food poisoning for Jenn also is terrible luck.
Cut Throat- Heavy hitters ****** the blue team royally. Cut Throat's final would've been hard for any two competitors, no matter who they are.
Duel 2- Sprained shoulder
Fresh Meat 2- No excuse for the Exile, but I'm still not sure why they had the final mission less than 24 hours after that final Exile. Not only was it unfair, but dangerous as well.
I mean i just dont know about jenn . I just dont want her to come back and take up a spot in the final someone could actually use to get first place and not last place . But ive seen jenn now. shes beefed up (her and cara . They both if given a chance could win hands down
I don't really care personally if Jenn is a good competitor or not. She is horrid woman and I just don't want her back regardless good thing she's done with the shows now.
I detest Jenn, but I can't deny that she should have at least won a challenge. Jenn, Kellyanne and Diem (R.I.P) all are/were due for a win. If Jenn & Emily still had Derrick (or even Bananas), Blue would have won easily on Cutthroat. Kellyanne/Sarah should have (and could have) won The Ruins if it wasn't for that damn puzzle. Diem got screwed twice (Big Easy in the Gauntlet 3 and CT in Exes 1)
I miss the themes the shows used to have and I don't mean in forms of teams or missions but the visual themes. Like on Battle of the Sexes 1 it was a very tropical and summery theme then Battle of the Sexes 2 had a western cowboy/cowgirl theme and The Gauntlet 2 had a Pirate theme and The Gauntlet elimination location was a pirate ship and the spin wheel used to pick the elimination was a wheel used to steer a ship. They don't really have that anymore honestly.
I detest Jenn, but I can't deny that she should have at least won a challenge. Jenn, Kellyanne and Diem (R.I.P) all are/were due for a win. If Jenn & Emily still had Derrick (or even Bananas), Blue would have won easily on Cutthroat. Kellyanne/Sarah should have (and could have) won The Ruins if it wasn't for that damn puzzle. Diem got screwed twice (Big Easy in the Gauntlet 3 and CT in Exes 1)
I love KA but I feel like shes overrated. I dislike Camila but I feel like she should be 2nd tier!
I detest Jenn, but I can't deny that she should have at least won a challenge. Jenn, Kellyanne and Diem (R.I.P) all are/were due for a win. If Jenn & Emily still had Derrick (or even Bananas), Blue would have won easily on Cutthroat. Kellyanne/Sarah should have (and could have) won The Ruins if it wasn't for that damn puzzle. Diem got screwed twice (Big Easy in the Gauntlet 3 and CT in Exes 1)
I love KA but I feel like shes overrated. I dislike Camila but I feel like she should be 2nd tier!
I don't necessarily think KA is overrated but I don't think we have seen enough for her to be on the first Tier! She did two challenges and the Island wasn't even really a challenge lol. I'd say she's deff 2nd tier but could have the potential. Also, I'd say Cooke from her 1 challenge is 2nd Tier and has the ability to be first tier. I think CM is deff second tier but has the potential to be first tier from all the working out she has done since Free Agents but I could be wrong. Wish Theresa could be 1st tier but deff second since she isnt that graet at eliminations. I also think Tori, Paula and Tonya are 3rd tier. Paula is good in finals but only won Rivals1&2 because of Ev and Emily. Besides that she's average. Diem too, love her, great in a final, but can't win an elimination.
I detest Jenn, but I can't deny that she should have at least won a challenge. Jenn, Kellyanne and Diem (R.I.P) all are/were due for a win. If Jenn & Emily still had Derrick (or even Bananas), Blue would have won easily on Cutthroat. Kellyanne/Sarah should have (and could have) won The Ruins if it wasn't for that damn puzzle. Diem got screwed twice (Big Easy in the Gauntlet 3 and CT in Exes 1)
That is a pretty good hierarchial break down of competitors.
I detest Jenn, but I can't deny that she should have at least won a challenge. Jenn, Kellyanne and Diem (R.I.P) all are/were due for a win. If Jenn & Emily still had Derrick (or even Bananas), Blue would have won easily on Cutthroat. Kellyanne/Sarah should have (and could have) won The Ruins if it wasn't for that damn puzzle. Diem got screwed twice (Big Easy in the Gauntlet 3 and CT in Exes 1)
That is a pretty good hierarchial break down of competitors.
Right haha I was thinking the same thing. That list is so on point.
I detest Jenn, but I can't deny that she should have at least won a challenge. Jenn, Kellyanne and Diem (R.I.P) all are/were due for a win. If Jenn & Emily still had Derrick (or even Bananas), Blue would have won easily on Cutthroat. Kellyanne/Sarah should have (and could have) won The Ruins if it wasn't for that damn puzzle. Diem got screwed twice (Big Easy in the Gauntlet 3 and CT in Exes 1)
That is a pretty good hierarchial break down of competitors.
Right haha I was thinking the same thing. That list is so on point.
For the guys it is a little harder because for the most part the guys change a lot more than the girls in terms of season-to-season success. Like Wes for instance if we were excluding Exes and Seasons, he would be in the top tier guys. But I will take a crack at it.
Top Tier (elite): Landon, Alton, CT, Johnny Bananas, Evan, Kenny, Derrick, Frank S, Abram, Darrell
2nd Tier (above average): Wes, Brad, Tyler, Frank R, Jordan, Zach, CJ, Mark
For the guys it is a little harder because for the most part the guys change a lot more than the girls in terms of season-to-season success. Like Wes for instance if we were excluding Exes and Seasons, he would be in the top tier guys. But I will take a crack at it.
Top Tier (elite): Landon, Alton, CT, Johnny Bananas, Evan, Kenny, Derrick, Frank S, Abram, Darrell
2nd Tier (above average): Wes, Brad, Tyler, Frank R, Jordan, Zach, CJ, Mark
I detest Jenn, but I can't deny that she should have at least won a challenge. Jenn, Kellyanne and Diem (R.I.P) all are/were due for a win. If Jenn & Emily still had Derrick (or even Bananas), Blue would have won easily on Cutthroat. Kellyanne/Sarah should have (and could have) won The Ruins if it wasn't for that damn puzzle. Diem got screwed twice (Big Easy in the Gauntlet 3 and CT in Exes 1)
That is a pretty good hierarchial break down of competitors.
Right haha I was thinking the same thing. That list is so on point.
For the guys it is a little harder because for the most part the guys change a lot more than the girls in terms of season-to-season success. Like Wes for instance if we were excluding Exes and Seasons, he would be in the top tier guys. But I will take a crack at it.
Top Tier (elite): Landon, Alton, CT, Johnny Bananas, Evan, Kenny, Derrick, Frank S, Abram, Darrell
2nd Tier (above average): Wes, Brad, Tyler, Frank R, Jordan, Zach, CJ, Mark
Looks pretty solid but I'd prob move Kenny, Frank and maybe Abe to second tier. Kenny sucks at challenges and doesn't seem to good at eliminations (lost to Nehemiah, Eliminations on Rivals). Frank I feel like hasn't shown enough he's really good but I feel like seeing him in an elimination round where he takes out a good competitor would bump him up. Abe had a bad showing on Exes and lost to Ty. Your right though guys change a lot throughout the seasons.
I think Devyn's self-proclaimed "political" and "social" game were equivalet to Jenna's .. aka they were both carried to the end as people that would easily be beaten.
I didn't want to reply to everything so I'll just list you guys with my reply
JamieFire = KA is a reach but based on her two challenges, she's definitely top tier. Especially when all of the girls feared going up against KA in The Ruins. Also, the guys wanted to get rid of her mostly because she's a threat. That's why they screwed Ev to try and get KA out. Also, she beat Rachel in an endurance challenge and "technically" has a win under her belt against Ev. Also, her and Sarah gave the guys a run for their money in the Ruins Final. I think she's earned her spot as a top tier female competitor. I think Camila is borderline top tier and 2nd tier. I'll put her more in the 2nd tier but I think after the next challenge, I guarantee she'll move up to one. She's shown some amazing strength and feat for her size but her mental state is not up there yet.
FreeAgent3 = I agree with CM and I honestly wish she didn't get injured. I think she would have won FA IMO. Your explanation of Theresa is the main reason why I didn't put her in the top tier. She sucks at eliminations. Has the ability but something always flusters her. I can see why you would put Tori in the 3rd tier but Tonya and Paula are definitely 2nd tier. Tonya was a force on Inferno 3. That was Tonya in her best shape and form. She was by far the 3rd best female that season (not far behind from Ev and Susie). She could have made it far in The Ruins but she wasn't in the mental state to compete. I always have a soft spot for Tonya and I think she's improved every challenge. I hate Paula haha! She's my 2nd worst person on the challenge (Tori is #1) but Paula is a final BEAST!!! Yes she's had great partners but in the finals, her partners were keeping up with her. From Duel 1-Cutthroat, she would have been tier 3. Rivals 1 on, she's tier 2. Plus she technically beat Rachel R. in Exes 1 by getting to the bar first in the Banded Together elimination.
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Nice list El Scorcho but I would put Tyler in the top tier. Cutthroat and Rivals 1 definitely put him in that spot. He put up a fight with CT on Cutthroat for 40 minutes and beat Derrick. He was also the man to solve the final puzzle on Cutthroat (Sign Language). Also, on Rivals, he finished and won the final with a stomach bug and dehydration. Rivals was hands down the 2nd toughest final ever IMO (Exes 1 was the toughest). Tyler is definitely elite and I wished he was on Free Agents. He would have crushed the competition.
I don't really care personally if Jenn is a good competitor or not. She is horrid woman and I just don't want her back regardless good thing she's done with the shows now.
Yeah KA has shown a lot, but she also was just flatout demolished by Evelyn. It wasn't even close at all and was hard to watch how much KA was trying to make Evelyn budge and Everything was standing there looking bored. Evelyn is a beast and the best female competitor to date, but it's still fair to point out imo.
I would say Camila has a pretty good mental state tho. Despite her meltdowns, she can almost always keep it together (only exception being FA). She can be the outsider and still fight in elimination rounds like Cutthroat and Seasons 2.
Yeah KA has shown a lot, but she also was just flatout demolished by Evelyn. It wasn't even close at all and was hard to watch how much KA was trying to make Evelyn budge and Everything was standing there looking bored. Evelyn is a beast and the best female competitor to date, but it's still fair to point out imo. I would say Camila has a pretty good mental state tho. Despite her meltdowns, she can almost always keep it together (only exception being FA). She can be the outsider and still fight in elimination rounds like Cutthroat and Seasons 2.
Getting demolished by Evelyn doesn't really take away your ability or lessen you as a competitor lol considering Evelyn is basically a dude and Alton couldn't even reel her in when he was in his prime...
Yeah KA has shown a lot, but she also was just flatout demolished by Evelyn. It wasn't even close at all and was hard to watch how much KA was trying to make Evelyn budge and Everything was standing there looking bored. Evelyn is a beast and the best female competitor to date, but it's still fair to point out imo. I would say Camila has a pretty good mental state tho. Despite her meltdowns, she can almost always keep it together (only exception being FA). She can be the outsider and still fight in elimination rounds like Cutthroat and Seasons 2.
Getting demolished by Evelyn doesn't really take away your ability or lessen you as a competitor lol considering Evelyn is basically a dude and Alton couldn't even reel her in when he was in his prime...
That's true which is why I mentioned how great Evelyn is, but if we're gonna technically count that as a win, let's remember what also happened in that elimination round.
Yeah KA has shown a lot, but she also was just flatout demolished by Evelyn. It wasn't even close at all and was hard to watch how much KA was trying to make Evelyn budge and Everything was standing there looking bored. Evelyn is a beast and the best female competitor to date, but it's still fair to point out imo. I would say Camila has a pretty good mental state tho. Despite her meltdowns, she can almost always keep it together (only exception being FA). She can be the outsider and still fight in elimination rounds like Cutthroat and Seasons 2.
Getting demolished by Evelyn doesn't really take away your ability or lessen you as a competitor lol considering Evelyn is basically a dude and Alton couldn't even reel her in when he was in his prime...
That's true which is why I mentioned how great Evelyn is, but if we're gonna technically count that as a win, let's remember what also happened in that elimination round.
I wouldn't even count that as a win considering Evelyn let KellyAnne win.
Also jenna was carried to the final beacuse everyone knew they would beat her and jay . Cara was eliminated first beacuse everyone knew her and darrel were the strongest team there . So its a big difference
I liked the Inferno 2 more than the Inferno 1 despite the latter having more iconic and legendary moments.
Jenn is honestly probably the competitor without a win who deserves one more than any other competitor. Aneesa is up there too, and Cara Maria can make an argument as well, but if anything, Jenn has had some bad luck.
The Island- JED were winning that season from day one and everyone knew it. Johnny had the only chance of losing, and almost did twice, but Kenny and Derrick could've been given the money on day two. I look at the cast and think that every single person would've chosen Derrick as one of their teammates in the final. Evelyn was the sure guarantee as the fourth option, no one else stood a chance when a deal is in favor of the three masterminds of the season.
Rivals- Mandi isn't a slouch, but given the cast, she was a weak competitor. Food poisoning for Jenn also is terrible luck.
Cut Throat- Heavy hitters ****** the blue team royally. Cut Throat's final would've been hard for any two competitors, no matter who they are.
Duel 2- Sprained shoulder
Fresh Meat 2- No excuse for the Exile, but I'm still not sure why they had the final mission less than 24 hours after that final Exile. Not only was it unfair, but dangerous as well.
I mean i just dont know about jenn . I just dont want her to come back and take up a spot in the final someone could actually use to get first place and not last place . But ive seen jenn now. shes beefed up (her and cara . They both if given a chance could win hands down
I don't really care personally if Jenn is a good competitor or not. She is horrid woman and I just don't want her back regardless good thing she's done with the shows now.
Jenn has always been a 2nd tier competitor IMO
1st Tier (elite) - Emily, Ev, Rachel R., Laurel, Kellyanne
2nd Tier (above average) - Jenn, Diem, CM, Theresa, Tori, Paula, Tonya
3rd Tier (average) - Jonna, Jessica, Nany
4th Tier (decent) - Devyn, Robin, Johanna
Bottom - Casey, Shavoun, Emillee
I detest Jenn, but I can't deny that she should have at least won a challenge. Jenn, Kellyanne and Diem (R.I.P) all are/were due for a win. If Jenn & Emily still had Derrick (or even Bananas), Blue would have won easily on Cutthroat. Kellyanne/Sarah should have (and could have) won The Ruins if it wasn't for that damn puzzle. Diem got screwed twice (Big Easy in the Gauntlet 3 and CT in Exes 1)
Cara Maria is my favorite girl and I predict she will win in the future.
I miss the themes the shows used to have and I don't mean in forms of teams or missions but the visual themes. Like on Battle of the Sexes 1 it was a very tropical and summery theme then Battle of the Sexes 2 had a western cowboy/cowgirl theme and The Gauntlet 2 had a Pirate theme and The Gauntlet elimination location was a pirate ship and the spin wheel used to pick the elimination was a wheel used to steer a ship. They don't really have that anymore honestly.
I love KA but I feel like shes overrated. I dislike Camila but I feel like she should be 2nd tier!
My new unpopular opinion is that my unpopular opinions haven't changed for the ones I had on pages 2 and 3.
More like you remember Eric Nies.
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I don't necessarily think KA is overrated but I don't think we have seen enough for her to be on the first Tier! She did two challenges and the Island wasn't even really a challenge lol. I'd say she's deff 2nd tier but could have the potential. Also, I'd say Cooke from her 1 challenge is 2nd Tier and has the ability to be first tier. I think CM is deff second tier but has the potential to be first tier from all the working out she has done since Free Agents but I could be wrong. Wish Theresa could be 1st tier but deff second since she isnt that graet at eliminations. I also think Tori, Paula and Tonya are 3rd tier. Paula is good in finals but only won Rivals1&2 because of Ev and Emily. Besides that she's average. Diem too, love her, great in a final, but can't win an elimination.
Yeah I would put KA in the second tier and bump Camila up to the top tier, especially if we're putting Emily there.
That is a pretty good hierarchial break down of competitors.
Right haha I was thinking the same thing. That list is so on point.
For the guys it is a little harder because for the most part the guys change a lot more than the girls in terms of season-to-season success. Like Wes for instance if we were excluding Exes and Seasons, he would be in the top tier guys. But I will take a crack at it.
Top Tier (elite): Landon, Alton, CT, Johnny Bananas, Evan, Kenny, Derrick, Frank S, Abram, Darrell
2nd Tier (above average): Wes, Brad, Tyler, Frank R, Jordan, Zach, CJ, Mark
3rd Tier (average): Dunbar, Nehemiah, MJ, Leroy, Ty, Cohutta, Dustin, Johnny Reilly
4th Tier (decent): Danny, Trey, Robb, Ryan, Adam King, Ace, Chet, Brandon
Bottom Tier: Eric, Preston, Knight, Swift, Isaac, Jay, Vinny
YES!!!
Looks pretty solid but I'd prob move Kenny, Frank and maybe Abe to second tier. Kenny sucks at challenges and doesn't seem to good at eliminations (lost to Nehemiah, Eliminations on Rivals). Frank I feel like hasn't shown enough he's really good but I feel like seeing him in an elimination round where he takes out a good competitor would bump him up. Abe had a bad showing on Exes and lost to Ty. Your right though guys change a lot throughout the seasons.
I think Devyn's self-proclaimed "political" and "social" game were equivalet to Jenna's .. aka they were both carried to the end as people that would easily be beaten.
I didn't want to reply to everything so I'll just list you guys with my reply
JamieFire = KA is a reach but based on her two challenges, she's definitely top tier. Especially when all of the girls feared going up against KA in The Ruins. Also, the guys wanted to get rid of her mostly because she's a threat. That's why they screwed Ev to try and get KA out. Also, she beat Rachel in an endurance challenge and "technically" has a win under her belt against Ev. Also, her and Sarah gave the guys a run for their money in the Ruins Final. I think she's earned her spot as a top tier female competitor. I think Camila is borderline top tier and 2nd tier. I'll put her more in the 2nd tier but I think after the next challenge, I guarantee she'll move up to one. She's shown some amazing strength and feat for her size but her mental state is not up there yet.
FreeAgent3 = I agree with CM and I honestly wish she didn't get injured. I think she would have won FA IMO. Your explanation of Theresa is the main reason why I didn't put her in the top tier. She sucks at eliminations. Has the ability but something always flusters her. I can see why you would put Tori in the 3rd tier but Tonya and Paula are definitely 2nd tier. Tonya was a force on Inferno 3. That was Tonya in her best shape and form. She was by far the 3rd best female that season (not far behind from Ev and Susie). She could have made it far in The Ruins but she wasn't in the mental state to compete. I always have a soft spot for Tonya and I think she's improved every challenge. I hate Paula haha! She's my 2nd worst person on the challenge (Tori is #1) but Paula is a final BEAST!!! Yes she's had great partners but in the finals, her partners were keeping up with her. From Duel 1-Cutthroat, she would have been tier 3. Rivals 1 on, she's tier 2. Plus she technically beat Rachel R. in Exes 1 by getting to the bar first in the Banded Together elimination.
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Nice list El Scorcho but I would put Tyler in the top tier. Cutthroat and Rivals 1 definitely put him in that spot. He put up a fight with CT on Cutthroat for 40 minutes and beat Derrick. He was also the man to solve the final puzzle on Cutthroat (Sign Language). Also, on Rivals, he finished and won the final with a stomach bug and dehydration. Rivals was hands down the 2nd toughest final ever IMO (Exes 1 was the toughest). Tyler is definitely elite and I wished he was on Free Agents. He would have crushed the competition.
Yeah KA has shown a lot, but she also was just flatout demolished by Evelyn. It wasn't even close at all and was hard to watch how much KA was trying to make Evelyn budge and Everything was standing there looking bored. Evelyn is a beast and the best female competitor to date, but it's still fair to point out imo.
I would say Camila has a pretty good mental state tho. Despite her meltdowns, she can almost always keep it together (only exception being FA). She can be the outsider and still fight in elimination rounds like Cutthroat and Seasons 2.
Getting demolished by Evelyn doesn't really take away your ability or lessen you as a competitor lol considering Evelyn is basically a dude and Alton couldn't even reel her in when he was in his prime...
That's true which is why I mentioned how great Evelyn is, but if we're gonna technically count that as a win, let's remember what also happened in that elimination round.
I wouldn't even count that as a win considering Evelyn let KellyAnne win.
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