[QUOTE=AnneK;366536]First she said that Cooke was the first person she hasn't liked. When Jemmye called her out on it she added, "with that level of intensity". Honestly, Diem looked very stupid on the After Show last night.[/QUOTE]
And I've been told that a lot was cut out of it, so we really don't know.
Okay some things I wanna say.
I really don't think Diem had any right to get mad at CT. I mean what did she expect him to do? Why does she think he is obligated to help her? She and Aneesa came in LAST PLACE they were going in no matter what. It's not CT's job to make sure she gets to the Final challenge. She's on her own.
That Girl Fight was GLORIOUS Diem gets called out on her crap and it was amazing. Loved every minute of it.
I think Jordan and Marlon should've thrown in Paula/Emily. I see no reason to just hand them the money basically. Make them earn their spot by fighting in the Jungle like Marlon/Jordan did.
Also did anyone notice that during the challenge all the guys were shirtless? That made me hot!
[QUOTE=V1man;366544]And I've been told that a lot was cut out of it, so we really don't know.[/QUOTE]
And who may I ask were you told this by??? Diem? I hope not because her opinion is null and void at this point. She will shine a light on herself and make everyone else look bad. And honestly no one looks worst than Diem right now. She looks like a crazy, obsessive, cry baby that does not know who to own up to her own actions ( or the truth) I can already see the reunion is going to be HELL for her...and its her own fault.
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;366550]And who may I ask were you told this by??? Diem? I hope not because her opinion is null and void at this point. She will shine a light on herself and make everyone else look bad. And honestly no one looks worst than Diem right now. She looks like a crazy, obsessive, cry baby that does not know who to own up to her own actions ( or the truth) I can already see the reunion is going to be HELL for her...and its her own fault.[/QUOTE]
Of course you can ask, but you know I don't reveal sources. Would it not be just slightly obvious if Diem were the source. And, by now you should know that my rule is dual sourcing as molds13 and Bacchus will confirm. Personally, I think you're a bit butt-hurt because you have violated board rules more than once and sent on "vacation" for it. I don't know why you continue to return.
[QUOTE=V1man;366552]Of course you can ask, but you know I don't reveal sources. Would it not be just slightly obvious if Diem were the source. And, by now you should know that my rule is dual sourcing as molds13 and Bacchus will confirm. Personally, I think you're a bit butt-hurt because you have violated board rules more than once and sent on "vacation" for it. I don't know why you continue to return.[/QUOTE]
Butt hurt? That's hilarious! Im going to go ahead and "Like" that one. There are more important things in a person life to get upset about. Your the one that seems a little hurt and for the life of me I cant understand why. Im sorry Im doing my part in bashing ya girl Diem but, sorry she looks foolish and that's just the truth of the matter.
Thanks for that though, gave me a good laugh for the day! :)
[QUOTE=Meelz;366541]- The world saw Diem bend over backwards & forwards for CT, and he didn't return the favor, so why is she even cordial with the dude? I never want to see these two on a show together again.[/QUOTE]
How did she bend over backwards for him? I agree, I don't want MTV to re-hash this Diem/CT story ever again. It's boring.
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;366550]And who may I ask were you told this by??? Diem? I hope not because her opinion is null and void at this point. She will shine a light on herself and make everyone else look bad. And honestly no one looks worst than Diem right now. She looks like a crazy, obsessive, cry baby that does not know who to own up to her own actions ( or the truth) I can already see the reunion is going to be HELL for her...and its her own fault.[/QUOTE]
If this is Diem's last time on a challenge, what a way to retire. She will be remembered as a crazy, obsessive, cry baby that does not know who to own up to her own actions.
Best of luck to her.
here is my opinion of Diem at the moment:
I was never a fan of her or a hater but her edit in this episode made her look like a crazy ex girlfriend (as Nany said).
From the comments that i read here people are saying some very harsh things about her which i can understand but just keep in mind that she is a human she makes mistakes like all of us and on top of everything we only see the edited Diem so who are we to judge. ;)
For those questioning as to whether Johnny and Diem are actually close, from Diem's most recent People Magazine blog post:
"I have considered Wes and Johnny to be like brothers. Johnny was even my pseudo on-call doctor while going through my last bout with ovarian cancer. He would come over and help me with the injections that I had a hard time giving to myself."
She also seems to suggest that CT was down to give her Camila, but Wes hates Paula so he wanted her to go in.
Diem isn't crazy you guys try JUST getting out of Chemo, living in a house for a month with cameras in your face all the time with no contact to loved ones, being in a house with a bunch of drunk people who fight and scream at each other and see how sane you seem.
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;366561]Butt hurt? That's hilarious! Im going to go ahead and "Like" that one. There are more important things in a person life to get upset about. Your the one that seems a little hurt and for the life of me I cant understand why. Im sorry Im doing my part in bashing ya girl Diem but, sorry she looks foolish and that's just the truth of the matter.
Thanks for that though, gave me a good laugh for the day! :)[/QUOTE]
I'm glad I could contribute to your amusement.
So little you know. You clearly are not aware that my business partner and very close friend for a decade has been Beth Stolarczyk, who has never been a Diem fan. Beth took a lot of "hate" for the same reaction to Diem years ago that some people have today, and I defended Beth at the time. MTV series and who the cast members may be in real life are two different things, however, so I don't personally form a view of someone's character until I know them in a different context.
My own interest is in MedGift to which I've committed both resources and intellectual property. In that role I've come to know Diem away from MTV. As for what I post here at vevmo, I just report what comes my way.
Now I've bored everyone who was not already bored by our exchange, so I think I'm done with it and you. Moving on.
I already posted my opinion on the diem ct voting thing but i agree with a few posters too i think the way she came up to them insulted thry didnt immediately ask her who she wsnted was what pissed ct off it was a demanding way of how it came across.. I woulda liked to see how johnny did on that chsllenge cara said it wss a few miles each way
[QUOTE=Debut Album;366549]Okay some things I wanna say.
I really don't think Diem had any right to get mad at CT. I mean what did she expect him to do? Why does she think he is obligated to help her? She and Aneesa came in LAST PLACE they were going in no matter what. It's not CT's job to make sure she gets to the Final challenge. She's on her own.
That Girl Fight was GLORIOUS Diem gets called out on her crap and it was amazing. Loved every minute of it.
I think Jordan and Marlon should've thrown in Paula/Emily. I see no reason to just hand them the money basically. Make them earn their spot by fighting in the Jungle like Marlon/Jordan did.
Also did anyone notice that during the challenge all the guys were shirtless? That made me hot![/QUOTE]
emily and paula were not handed anything they won most of the challenges and deserved to go right to the finals without seeing the jungle if they only won one challenge then they should have went in.....cooke/cara deserve to be there because of all the eliminations they were in they won even though they never won a challenge except this week......just like emily/paula won half of the challenges but never had to see an elimination....the right right people to go into the jungle were camilla/jemmye.
The one thing you can say about Diem is she doesn't disappoint. She gave a different version of the same hissy fit she throws every time she gets sent into an elimination round. Except this time she threw herself in. Rather than take responsibility for this she ran around the house picking fights with people.
Ranting at Paula and Emily that Cooke and Cara Maria didn't deserve to be in the final. Really? The whole house was gunning for them and they managed to dodge not one, not two, but three bullets. They knew that if they didn't win the last challenge they were going into a jungle. They worked hard, and well together, and prevailed. But, oh no, they don't "deserve" to be in a final.
Screaming at Camilla and then condescendingly telling Jemmye that she wasn't going to raise her voice, all the while lying about campaigning against Camilla and Jemmye, can we say delusional?
Complaining about Wes and CT not asking her what team she wanted, then posting in her People blog today that CT asked her if she wanted lime green (the color of Camilla and Jemmye's shirts) is a contradiction. Which is it, did he ask you or did he not ask you? Make up your mind.
Her behavior on the After Show should be more embarrassing to her than her behavior on the actual challenge. She really needs to let go of the eye rolling, she's 30 something now and it's not a good look.
Bottom line is she is once again taking zero responsibility for her poor behavior. But oh wait, not her fault, some girl was mean to her. Wahhhhhh
[QUOTE=AnneK;366589]The one thing you can say about Diem is she doesn't disappoint. She gave a different version of the same hissy fit she throws every time she gets sent into an elimination round. Except this time she threw herself in. Rather than take responsibility for this she ran around the house picking fights with people.
Ranting at Paula and Emily that Cooke and Cara Maria didn't deserve to be in the final. Really? The whole house was gunning for them and they managed to dodge not one, not two, but three bullets. They knew that if they didn't win the last challenge they were going into a jungle. They worked hard, and well together, and prevailed. But, oh no, they don't "deserve" to be in a final.
Screaming at Camilla and then condescendingly telling Jemmye that she wasn't going to raise her voice, all the while lying about campaigning against Camilla and Jemmye, can we say delusional?
Complaining about Wes and CT not asking her what team she wanted, then posting in her People blog today that CT asked her if she wanted lime green (the color of Camilla and Jemmye's shirts) is a contradiction. Which is it, did he ask you or did he not ask you? Make up your mind.
Her behavior on the After Show should be more embarrassing to her than her behavior on the actual challenge. She really needs to let go of the eye rolling, she's 30 something now and it's not a good look.
Bottom line is she is once again taking zero responsibility for her poor behavior. But oh wait, not her fault, some girl was mean to her. Wahhhhhh[/QUOTE]
Great post. Exactly my thoughts as well.
Also,someone who has gone through a major incident in their life like losing a loved one or overcoming a life-threatening illness generally tend to look at things at a different, more wider perspective. But Diem is as petty as ever. And NO, it's not the 'edit'. And she says she needs to prove to herself that she is 'as good as' the other competitors but does not want to do it in an elimination, logic?
[QUOTE=RedRaider;366591]Great post. Exactly my thoughts as well.
Also,someone who has gone through a major incident in their life like losing a loved one or overcoming a life-threatening illness generally tend to look at things at a different, more wider perspective. But Diem is as petty as ever. And NO, it's not the 'edit'. And she says she needs to prove to herself that she is 'as good as' the other competitors but does not want to do it in an elimination, logic?[/QUOTE]
I agree. She seems to contradict herself so much. Last night on the After show she talked about how uncomfortable it is for her to see CT with other girls. What about the recent ex of hers, the guy she dated for 4 years, the one who made her feel more loved than anyone else ever had? Did she give any consideration to how he would feel seeing her making out with CT, on national television no less?
This episode was kind of hard to watch as a Diem fan lol. My sister went through ovarian cancer quite recently and her hormone shots had her emotions all over the place so I can sympathize with Diem's behavior on the show. Considering that it was only a weeks prior to that incident that ended chemo, i'm sure she was frightened and maybe a little insecure. The only thing that rubbed me the wrong way was the **** shaming of Cooke on the after show. Cooke definitely isn't one of my favorites from the show, but she is a grown woman.
I don't get how people like some of ya'll are on this website so much and never take into account that they edit this show very selectively. If I were one to speculate, the rumors have flown that Diem wants to quit doing these shows and have a real life. Maybe the producers know this and feel that Diem is no longer of value to them so it doesn't matter if she remains a protagonist moving forward. When Diem talked that **** about Cooke/Cara Maria, do you think she was the first to say something of that effect? I would bet she was probably the last. Do I speculate that she is "fake" to all these obnoxious party monsters? Yes. People like Jemmye seem absolutely lovable in the abstract but probably are nightmares when you have to interact with them in real life.
And I agree that she should have learned to take being put into elimination rounds in stride at this point. I think it's silly when people throw ginormous hissy fits over being thrown in (whether it's cause they were the worst or because they voted), as if they come on these shows and expect to not ever have to go in one of these. But Diem is not alone in this. Jemmye and Camila did not react with poise when they were selected either. As ridiculous as Diem came across with a very unfavorable edit over crying about CT, Jemmye and Camila seemed ridiculous when angry about Diem wanting them in. It was between them and a team that Diem knew would kill her in an elimination (don't even get me started on Pathetic Paula and her shenanigans last night), whereas Camila and that human cheeseburger Jemmye were easier competition.
Ultimately, I think it was pretty ****ty of BMP to make Diem look like an axe murderer, when she's one of the few whose made a positive difference in the Real World post being on RW/Challenges. The characters of people like Paula don't matter considering her life consists of making cocktails and doing these shows , but Diem's does in making her more popular so she can get more donors/resources etc.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;366607]Human cheeseburger?[/QUOTE]
It was a sophomoric slam on her greasy overall aura and out of shapeness compared to the other girls.
Like CT said himself: what kind of person would i be if i didnt help you to the final. So yes im glad that he wanted to give her the matchup that she prefered. But Wes has the pants on in that partnership and his hate for Johnny and therefore Paula is bigger so he got his wish and made the vote for them
[QUOTE]
I have a problem with over thinking situations sometimes. After Aneesa and I lost in challenge, CT asked "You want key lime right?" He was referring to Jemmye and Camila's team colors. Johnny asked the same. I was so flustered about having to choose between friends that I told them both I didn't know yet. CT had said on multiple occasions that for the last girl's jungle, that if I was going in, he would vote in any team I wanted to go against, as payback for gassing out during the final on the Battle of Exes season, where I first met Emily and Camila.
Emily, Paula and Camila didn't trust CT and Wes at all to start the game, [B]but I assured them that CT and Wes wouldn't screw them over and they didn't. Consequently, Emily, Paula and Camila never voted for CT and Wes so those two teams backed them equally.[/B]
Where it got sticky was with Wes. I guess Wes had some issue with Paula that I wasn't unaware of. What wasn't shown on TV was both Wes and CT saying if the shoe was on the other foot, they both would be livid if I didn't give them the option of who they wanted to go against in the final elimination. I wasn't in control so I got so frazzled. [/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20734146,00.html]Diem Brown Blogs: Learning to Not Give In to Negativity - MTV, Celebrity Blog, Diem Brown : People.com[/url]
[QUOTE=V1man;366575]I'm glad I could contribute to your amusement.
So little you know. You clearly are not aware that my business partner and very close friend for a decade has been Beth Stolarczyk, who has never been a Diem fan. Beth took a lot of "hate" for the same reaction to Diem years ago that some people have today, and I defended Beth at the time. MTV series and who the cast members may be in real life are two different things, however, so I don't personally form a view of someone's character until I know them in a different context.
My own interest is in MedGift to which I've committed both resources and intellectual property. In that role I've come to know Diem away from MTV. As for what I post here at vevmo, I just report what comes my way.
Now I've bored everyone who was not already bored by our exchange, so I think I'm done with it and you. Moving on.[/QUOTE]
uh huh...
Well you didn't have to communicate with me in the first place but you chose to so...That's great that your are "done" with it, me, and our exchange. I wont miss it :)
By the way, I don't think people are that bored. 4 people liked that last response I posted for you! Farewell.
[QUOTE=RWaddict;366620][URL="http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20734146,00.html"]Diem Brown Blogs: Learning to Not Give In to Negativity - MTV, Celebrity Blog, Diem Brown : People.com[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Where it got sticky was with Wes. I guess Wes had some issue with Paula that I wasn't unaware of. What wasn't shown on TV was both Wes and CT saying if the shoe was on the other foot, they both would be livid if I didn't give them the option of who they wanted to go against in the final elimination. I wasn't in control so I got so frazzled..[/QUOTE]
And did Wes also [B]make him wear Camila's and Jemmye's jersey color to the jungle[/B] as opposed to Diem's(purple)?
Let's be honest, I can imagine that they way Diem acted throughout the whole ordeal bought back memories to him and just reminded him why not go down that road again... "True Colors" was a fitting episode title...
Very few people on these challenges are as self-entitled and self-absorbed as Diem and this is saying a lot...and these are character traits where certainly not brought on by the hormone shots..(she had always been like this)
[QUOTE=LexBlair;366624]And did Wes also [B]make him wear Camila's and Jemmye's jersey color to the jungle[/B] as opposed to Diem's(purple)?
Let's be honest, I can imagine that they way Diem acted throughout the whole ordeal bought back memories to him and just reminded him why not go down that road again... "True Colors" was a fitting episode title...
Very few people on these challenges are as self-entitled and self-absorbed as Diem and this is saying a lot...and these are character traits where certainly not brought on by the hormone shots..(she had always been like this)[/QUOTE]
Wait... "him" as in CT? If so, CT is not wearing anyone's color, although I guess one could argue that he's wearing purple for Diem:
[IMG]http://cdn.img42.com/ac2fe1294f2174bc774556eefccbd294.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=skimthrough;366626]Wait... "him" as in CT? If so, CT is not wearing anyone's color, although I guess one could argue that he's wearing purple for Diem:
[IMG]http://cdn.img42.com/ac2fe1294f2174bc774556eefccbd294.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
you are totally right, my bad, I remembered Jordan as CT..(which was also weird considering they voted them in;)
Ya pretty sure ct had a purple tank on to support diem.. Even though she has been favoriting ct used her and i wsrned u about him type tweets .. I was surprised how they acted on aftershow she didnt say she was over him or not into him she said they hsve different career aspirations.. I am sure ct hated hearin that again
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