The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

[QUOTE=Snake19;343467]1. If we go by Aneesa/Knight together I believe that it's viable they both went home 2. [B]If she had been responding to his tweet it would say view convo[/B], but maybe she was 2 months delayed haha[/QUOTE] That's the case...;)

[QUOTE=Gucci Mane;343468]Lol, I know right? Paula win #2. [B]I wish I could've seen some of the casts reactions when they realized who would be paired with who.[/B][/QUOTE] Well, part of me still believes that the reason Paula always mentioned her "rivalry" with Emily in her confessionals was because she was hoping for Rivals2. Kinda the same with last seasons hook-ups and BOTE2. In someway its smart, I guess...

[QUOTE=LexBlair;343469]That's the case...;)[/QUOTE] Hers doesn't on mine, does hers say view convo for you? Cause on his page her tweet isn't one of the responses and on hers it only says "view details"

[QUOTE=Snake19;343472]Hers doesn't on mine, does hers say view convo for you? Cause on his page her tweet isn't one of the responses and on hers it only says "view details"[/QUOTE] [ATTACH]1959[/ATTACH]

[QUOTE=Gucci Mane;343468]Lol, I know right? Paula win #2. I wish I could've seen some of the casts reactions when they realized who would be paired with who.[/QUOTE] Well, you know they are going to reshoot the opening until BMP gets exactly the "shocking" reactions they want. For most cast, however, it's never a surprise. If it's a surprise to the cast member, then he or she has no worthwhile connection inside BMP or on this challenge crew. Did you think it was all real?

[QUOTE=V1man;343476]Well, you know they are going to reshoot the opening until BMP gets exactly the "shocking" reactions they want. For most cast, however, it's never a surprise. If it's a surprise to the cast member, then he or she has no worthwhile connection inside BMP or on this challenge crew. Did you think it was all real?[/QUOTE] No, I didn't. But I thought the cast wasn't aware of the format before they left this time.

[QUOTE=Gucci Mane;343477]No, I didn't. But I thought the cast wasn't aware of the format before they left this time.[/QUOTE] A few will always say that. That's not what I've heard when alcohol loosens tongues.

[QUOTE=Snake19;343472]Hers doesn't on mine, does hers say view convo for you? Cause on his page her tweet isn't one of the responses and on hers it only says "view details"[/QUOTE] The full "Monty:" [ATTACH]1960[/ATTACH]

[QUOTE=V1man;343476]Well, you know they are going to reshoot the opening until BMP gets exactly the "shocking" reactions they want. For most cast, however, it's never a surprise. If it's a surprise to the cast member, then he or she has no worthwhile connection inside BMP or on this challenge crew. Did you think it was all real?[/QUOTE] lol. This reminds me of Paula´s ever-present "WTF - O-face" whenever TJ announces the prize money... Sometimes they even reshoot the scenes where TJ announces the winner(s) of the daily challenge. This was extremely obvious during Rivals where the teams didn't even brother to stand at their original places when reshooting... Or they would show a close up of a girl with her hair in a ponytail - followed by a shot of TJ speaking - then back to girl, wearing her hair loose - cutting to TJ again - then a shot of the whole group with said girl wearing her hair in a bun;) lol...(Mandi and Camila were prime examples of this occurrence)

To Lex/V1 I think there's some confusion of who I meant along the way. I meant the girl who said she saw Jordan, someone said maybe she was responding to his tweet from when he left 2 months ago, but her tweet wasn't a response, it seemed more like a "welcome to LA you just got here" and it wasn't a "reply" tweet, so it appears she did it on her own. I just find it odd she'd say welcome to LA with a smiley if he hadn't just arrived Unless it was in reference to his tweet from March..but May 2nd is a little far from that isn't it?

[QUOTE=Snake19;343481]To Lex/V1 I think there's some confusion of who I meant along the way. I meant the girl who said she saw Jordan, someone said maybe she was responding to his tweet from when he left 2 months ago, but her tweet wasn't a response, it seemed more like a "welcome to LA you just got here" and it wasn't a "reply" tweet, so it appears she did it on her own. I just find it odd she'd say welcome to LA with a smiley if he hadn't just arrived[/QUOTE] ah okay, I get what you mean now;) well it could be, but I don´t know...maybe she just wanted to chat him up and didn´t want to sound desperate...

[QUOTE=LexBlair;343480]lol. This reminds me of Paula´s ever-present "WTF - O-face" whenever TJ announces the prize money... Sometimes they even reshoot the scenes where TJ announces the winner(s) of the daily challenge. This was extremely obvious during Rivals where the teams didn't even brother to stand at their original places when reshooting... Or they would show a close up of a girl with her hair in a ponytail - followed by a shot of TJ speaking - then back to girl, wearing her hair loose - cutting to TJ again - then a shot of the whole group with said girl wearing her hair in a bun;) lol...(Mandi and Camila were prime examples of this occurrence)[/QUOTE] If I had a dollar for every time they have to reshoot something because of a TJ *******, I'd be rich. He can't memorize a line or read a teleprompter. I recall standing in the back of the MTV studio for one of the Challenge reunion shows when TJ was on stage. Two young women from the agency that represented him were standing beside me laughing and commenting on TJ's inability to read a prompter. I didn't laugh, but I would have like to.

[QUOTE=LexBlair;343482]ah okay, I get what you mean now;) well it could be, but I don´t know...maybe she just wanted to chat him up and didn´t want to sound desperate...[/QUOTE] Her description says she's working as an editor in Hollywood, I'm assuming she knows responding to a 2 month old tweet from a TV personality won't drum up a convo. Also the biggest * for me is that she's aware the challenge is filming and seems to have knowledge of the cast from a tweet to a friend. This didn't seem like a random tweet to me, more like she saw him in LA or knew he was in LA and didn't know about the social media ban and that he couldn't respond even though he was home and off the challenge He's either home or the girl made an error responding to an old tweet..but in order for it to be an error it's odd she knows he's on the challenge but still welcomed him to LA 2 months later even though she knew he was leaving? Weird lol

I'm not too excited to see who gets 3rd place between Aneesa/Diem or Jemmye/Camila (even thought I would prefer if Aneesa makes the final), but i AM however excited to know who wins the awesome battle between Emily/Paula and Cara Maria/Cooke. It can go either way, but it is very hard to predict because we haven't seen Cooke compete yet, but if she does how I expect her to do, and Cara Maria being the great athlete that she is, they can totally win. Is not like Rivals 1 when Queen Evelyn was there (The best physically AND mentally, she had to whole package), where's Emily has the puzzle weakness, and again we don't know how Cooke will do in those. So in general, I can see either team winning and would love to see Emily or Cara Maria win, so is all good :P. Also Frank/Johnny in the same team. It only takes one elimination to get rid of both of them. But they're probably in the finals. *sigh*. Ct/Wes better win.

[QUOTE=JohnPhoenix;343486]I'm not too excited to see who gets 3rd place between Aneesa/Diem or Jemmye/Camila (even thought I would prefer if Aneesa makes the final), but i AM however excited to know who wins the awesome battle between Emily/Paula and Cara Maria/Cooke. It can go either way, but it is very hard to predict because we haven't seen Cooke compete yet, but if she does how I expect her to do, and [B]Cara Maria being the great athlete that she is[/B], they can totally win. Is not like Rivals 1 when Queen Evelyn was there (The best physically AND mentally, she had to whole package), where's Emily has the puzzle weakness, and again we don't know how Cooke will do in those. So in general, I can see either team winning and would love to see Emily or Cara Maria win, so is all good :P. Also Frank/Johnny in the same team. It only takes one elimination to get rid of both of them. But they're probably in the finals. *sigh*. Ct/Wes better win.[/QUOTE] :biggrin-new:

[QUOTE=LexBlair;343487]:biggrin-new:[/QUOTE] Cast members who have actually competed with her like Queen Evelyn, Jenn, etc, have said how great of a competitor she is. Plus she has proven it as well.

[QUOTE=JohnPhoenix;343489]Cast members who have actually competed with her like Queen Evelyn, Jenn, etc, have said how great of a competitor she is. Plus she has proven it as well.[/QUOTE] Great potential for sure, but she would get eaten alive in a Duel-type setting and the likes of Evelyn, Laurel, Jen etc. are aware of this. Didn´t want to get into anything off-topic here, though. Sorry.

Thank god Aneesa is home so that may mean Knight is home too since ppl have been saying the final hasnt started yet. Still odd that they were together since guy/girl eliminations are a few days apart, maybe they did the guy and girl eliminations right after one another cause they were behind schedule or something. The girls eliminations are all messed up though. One thing thats not good is the fact that 3 of the 4 guy teams have been speculated to be eliminated, but I think Knight's team is the most likely cause its more than rumors

[QUOTE=LexBlair;343491]Great potential for sure, but [B]she would get eaten alive in a Duel-type setting[/B] and the likes of Evelyn, Laurel, Jen etc. are aware of this. Didn´t want to get into anything off-topic here, though. Sorry.[/QUOTE] Are you serious? lol. You do know she did way better than Laurel in like half of the things the fresh meaters did in the try-outs right? She did 3 times more pull ups than her, plus did the best in short distant running, etc. I'm not saying she's better than Laurel in general, but is evident shes a strong competitor. SO how would she get eaten alive? She can beat most of the females in this challenge alone so if this was a Duel she would have probably still gotten far. And in fact I asked Queen Evelyn on Formspring who have been the toughest females competitors she has competed with, and she mentioned Cara Maria as one of those competitors in that list. So Queen Evelyn is very aware of Cara Maria's physical abilities. And you knew by your comment that it will cost a debate on Cara Maria as a competitor, so I'm not so sure about the "not wanting to go off topic" thing :P. Anyway, we can agree to disagree. :D

[QUOTE=Gucci Mane;343465]Here's a theory(just going to assume on a lot of the unknown): Let's just say that the elimination order in the other thread is correct, and there wasn't a female pair eliminated in between Robb/Derek and Zach/Trey. The way it stands, only Naomi went home at that time, in fact she quit. If that is the case, why would they not still do a female elimination after they brought in Cara Maria, and not have two guy pairs leaving back to back? My theory(or one of them) is that maybe she quit after the cast had already did the mission, a winning team was already selected and the cast had already gone through picking the two teams for the elimination round. Then, once it was time to actually compete in the round, Naomi for some reason quit. Instead of sending Cooke home with her, they just sent Naomi home, scrapped the female elimination and just tacked on another female elimination towards the end. Idk, just my (pointless) speculation, and is either far away from the truth, or so obviously true that it didn't need to be discussed, haha. P.S.: The only reason I brought this up is because for the longest, people have been wondering who got eliminated between Robb/Derek and Zac/Trey. With the most common answer being Aneesa/Diem have been home for a while. But if Aneesa is just now showing up, then maybe the reason why it hasn't been filled in is because there wasn't a pair sent home at that time, just Naomi. Again, just my pointless speculation. :)[/QUOTE] Cara left for the challenge on Apr 2nd, only 6 days after everyone else left and Ana flipped out on her Facebook about someone being a washed up quitter. I would read that as Ana/Jess got put in because Naomi quit.

But one is not only considered a great competitor because of the sheer strength that he/she possess..... Also if we go by what Ev says on her Formspring, Paula is one of the greatest and toughest competitors too;) Interesting that this opinion of hers only seemed to have come to light after they´ve become close friends.... [QUOTE=JohnPhoenix;343493]Are you serious? lol. You do know she did way better than Laurel in like half of the things the fresh meaters did in the try-outs right? She did 3 times more pull ups than her, plus did the best in short distant running, etc. I'm not saying she's better than Laurel in general, but is evident shes a strong competitor. SO how would she get eaten alive? She can beat most of the females in this challenge alone so if this was a Duel she would have probably still gotten far. And in fact I asked Queen Evelyn on Formspring who have been the toughest females competitors she has competed with, and she mentioned Cara Maria as one of those competitors in that list. So Queen Evelyn is very aware of Cara Maria's physical abilities. And you knew by your comment that it will cost a debate on Cara Maria as a competitor, so I'm not so sure about the "not wanting to go off topic" thing :P. [B]Anyway, we can agree to disagree. :D[/B][/QUOTE] Agreed;)

Is the pic on anas page with marlon on may 1st an old pic or a recent pic? It looks like they were hanging out

[QUOTE=Snake19;343496]Is the pic on anas page with marlon on may 1st an old pic or a recent pic? It looks like they were hanging out[/QUOTE] It a photo of a photo and she has dark hair in it, so I´d guess it's old. Maybe from Portland.

[QUOTE=Snake19;343496]Is the pic on anas page with marlon on may 1st an old pic or a recent pic? It looks like they were hanging out[/QUOTE] I saw that too, I assumed it was old cause she was making a general statement about their friendship. And I think she would know better than to out him like that

[QUOTE=Karisa502;343494]Cara left for the challenge on Apr 2nd, only 6 days after everyone else left and Ana flipped out on her Facebook about someone being a washed up quitter. I would read that as Ana/Jess got put in because Naomi quit.[/QUOTE] I thought that tweet was about Joi.

[QUOTE=gamer73;343504]I thought that tweet was about Joi.[/QUOTE] It is not about Joi or Naomi. People should begin to think about Naomi's departure as one for which TJ has much sympathy as opposed to the reaction you all might expect someone's departure traditionally receives from him.

[QUOTE=V1man;343506]It is not about Joi or Naomi. People should begin to think about Naomi's departure as one for which TJ has much sympathy as opposed to the reaction you all might expect someone's departure traditionally receives from him.[/QUOTE] So, in some sense, you are inferring, she felt compelled to leave for reasons other than what may have happened on the Challenge. Correct? (To be honest, I am not looking for details. Just a confirmation.)

[QUOTE=Desertpuma;343508]So, in some sense, you are inferring, she felt compelled to leave for reasons other than what may have happened on the Challenge. Correct? (To be honest, I am not looking for details. Just a confirmation.)[/QUOTE] I believe her departure was completely unrelated to the challenge, the cast, crew, BMP or MTV. (I know you aren't looking for details and I respect that; otherwise, I would not reply at all.)

[QUOTE=V1man;343509]I believe her departure was completely unrelated to the challenge, the cast, crew, BMP or MTV. (I know you aren't looking for details and I respect that; otherwise, I would not reply at all.)[/QUOTE] Well, hopefully, whatever the situation was, things have ended up for the best. I do not wish tragedy on 99% of the populace.

[QUOTE=Desertpuma;343510]Well, hopefully, whatever the situation was, things have ended up for the best. I do not wish tragedy on 99% of the populace.[/QUOTE] Hee. There are approximately 70 million people that I want to see suffer too. As far as the challenge goes Wes is one of them.