The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

[B][U]Veteran Males[/U][/B] 1. Chris Tamburello 2. Derek Chavez 3. Dunbar Merril 4. Johnny Bananas 5. Leroy Garrett 6. Tyrie Ballard 7. Wes Bergmann 8. ? [B][U] Veteran Females[/U][/B] 1. Camila Nakagawa 2. Diem Brown 3. [B]Emily Schromm [/B]4. Jasmine Reynaud 5. Jonna Mannion 6. Paula Meronek 7. Sarah Rice 8. Trishelle Cannatella [B][U] Rookie Males[/U][/B] 1. [B]Brandon Swift[/B] 2. Frank Sweeney 3. Jordan Wiseley 4. Marlon Williams 5. Robb Schreiber 6. Ryan Knight 7. Trey Weatherholtz 8. Zach Nichols [B][U]Rookie Females[/U][/B] 1. Anastasia Miller 2. Devyn Simone 3. Heather Cooke 4. Jessica McCain 5. Jemmye Carroll 6. Nany Gonzalez 7. Naomi Defensor 8. ? Possible: - Ty, SO I took coral off the list she is a definite no go for this challenge based off her tweets and people asking her why she's tweeting because she's supposed to be on the challenge and her responding no im not there lol hahahaha So yeah No CORAL.. :( Also Im gonna add Swift & Emily S. to the confirmed list I would like to try to end this thread with a completed cast possibly.. that way we can have some closure to our speculation lol haha .. :) WHICH ALSO MEANS IM GONNA TAKE ANEESA AND THERESA OFF THE POSSIBLE SINCE THE VET FEMALES LIST IS COMPLETE... If you dont think i should then just add them back k.. :) Also I dont know if ty is like supposed to be in the confirmed list but i remember there was some hard evidence that said he was not on this challenge? true or not true?... Also Rookie girls.. still needing some love.. lol okay im done lol

If this seriously is the cast then BMP has proven to me that they still are a bunch of morons. The point of rookies vs vets was to see guys like CT destroy the newer guys who were annoying on BOTS, but some of them ended up on the veterans team that is seriously lacking in star power.

[QUOTE=Nostalgic;338589]True but then again you don't have to click the thread either. Just a thought.[/QUOTE] I just want to know the cast, that's it

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;338664]If this seriously is the cast then BMP has proven to me that they still are a bunch of morons. [/QUOTE] Also that the star power players just don't want to or have the time to do this **** anymore, there's a new age of the challenge and the show has ran its course.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;338444]V1man simply stated he confirmed 8 veteran guys--he definitely has connections[/QUOTE] It is always possible that one of the 8 is an alternate, but I don't think so.

[QUOTE=alaskak94;338528]Just saying, but can elimination spoilers (when they come out) be posted in a separate thread? I would rather watch the episodes without knowing who goes home, but I still want to look at this thread to find the actual cast.[/QUOTE] I agree...I like knowing the cast ahead of time to speculate...but other then that i like to be surprised while watching. [QUOTE=ewright006;338656]Coral confirmed via twitter that she will not be on the upcoming challenge. But she did say she will be on MTV very soon. Don't know what that means haha...[/QUOTE] Sad day, Coral was my last hope for this cast to have someone great in it :( Whats Anne Wharton up to....can't they get her on it :love_heart:

looks like the rookie male list is filled but I noticed Bronne had been tweeting pretty regularly up until the 20th and hasn't since then...it's a long shot but I remember him having interest in a challenge

Pure coincedence or the male rookies are 2 per season so Frank/Zach,Trey/Robb,Jordan/Johnny or Marlon,Knight/Preston (Has Been kinda quite)

What if this last rookie female was someone like Belou or Jo or Becky... I would be extremely happy. I'd laugh though if Jo ever came back lolololol

[QUOTE=Npresh24;338673]Pure coincedence or the male rookies are 2 per season so Frank/Zach,Trey/Robb,Jordan/Johnny or Marlon,Knight/Preston (Has Been kinda quite)[/QUOTE] Coincidence because the vets don't match up

Does anyone have an opinion on Mandi for Rookie girls? Lame to not at least have a guess for that last Rookie girl

[QUOTE=Snake19;338679]Does anyone have an opinion on Mandi for Rookie girls? Lame to not at least have a guess for that last Rookie girl[/QUOTE] Mandi would be a vet

Damn I forgot about FM, she was the only other one I thought of for Rookie girls, now I'm baffled haha

Even if you took Fresh Meat 2 away from Mandi, she would still be a Veteran.. crazy how you could take that challenge away from Mandi, Cara Maria, Laurel, Brandon, Theresa, and Vinny and they would all still be Vets right now. They've definitely swamped the challenges since their debut. I am in high hopes that Derrick is on this challenge. He's been my favorite competitor since the Inferno 2 and he's been missed since Cut Throat. I know it's a long shot because of his personal reasons and he had some form of a tweet sent out yesterday, but even that is strange because he's usually a constant tweeter, especially about Chicago sports and with the Bulls beating the Heat last night, I expected him to be excited..

[QUOTE=Morris1721;338686]Even if you took Fresh Meat 2 away from Mandi, she would still be a Veteran.. crazy how you could take that challenge away from Mandi, Cara Maria, Laurel, Brandon, Theresa, and Vinny and they would all still be Vets right now. They've definitely swamped the challenges since their debut.I am in high hopes that Derrick is on this challenge. He's been my favorite competitor since the Inferno 2 and he's been missed since Cut Throat. I know it's a long shot because of his personal reasons and he had some form of a tweet sent out yesterday, but even that is strange because he's usually a constant tweeter, especially about Chicago sports and with the Bulls beating the Heat last night, I expected him to be excited..[/QUOTE]I really have this feeling in my gut that DERRICK is the last veteran guy..Maybe in wrong idk.. That last tweet he did was so Stale... I really think hes the last guy..

Okay.. So What about Adam King rw paris.. There was specuation of him being in the airport photo that had Johnny, Leroy, and i think Paula in it.. I don't remember what happened did we even talk about him he hasn't updated anything in four days.. He is a challenge regular.. and mtv needs just more fillers im guessing.. he is a good filler though.. Also what about JD.. I know people think he is boring but i kind of like him and he would be considered a vet.. at this point.. My Vet Guy thoughts are Derrick, Adam K., Chet, JD.. these guys all make sense to me..

Derrick did like 4 tweets from his iPhone....

Yeah i saw that.. but this people running things for other people while there gone always makes me wonder.. so.. idk..

I'm also still wondering if McKenzie is not the final rookie female. Did y'all forget about V1man saying Wes wouldn't be without a friend? Any word on the other Austin men?

[QUOTE=Lola88;338693] Did y'all forget about V1man saying Wes wouldn't be without a friend? Any word on the other Austin men?[/QUOTE] Use your "Senior Members" LOL

[QUOTE=Lola88;338693]I'm also still wondering if McKenzie is not the final rookie female. Did y'all forget about V1man saying Wes wouldn't be without a friend? Any word on the other Austin men?[/QUOTE] V1man is this what Wes said or are you saying that is what he should do. He wants alliance friends or hang out friends? The only useful close friend Wes has is Evelyn and apparently shes not on it. Him and Diem call each other brother/sister but I think thats about it on the vet team that I think he'd call a close friend. He doesnt need friends, he just needs to get in shape. Some other ppl I can think of is the the austin ppl, Anessa, Nate, Knight, Kelly Anne maybe, and Brad or Coral, and Katie maybe? lol it doesnt look too good for him

Danny from Austin to me seems to make the most sense.

[QUOTE=Blue123;338696]V1man is this what Wes said or are you saying that is what he should do. He wants alliance friends or hang out friends? The only useful close friend Wes has is Evelyn and apparently shes not on it. Him and Diem call each other brother/sister but I think thats about it on the vet team that I think he'd call a close friend. He doesnt need friends, he just needs to get in shape. Some other ppl I can think of is the the austin ppl, Anessa, Nate, Knight, Kelly Anne maybe, and Brad or Coral, and Katie maybe? lol it doesnt look too good for him[/QUOTE] I was simply observing that given Wes' recent challenge experiences, it would not make sense for him to go into a challenge without at least an alliance of one. Of course, if Wes doesn't care if he is targeted by both vets and rookies (assuming there are such useful divisions of cast members on this challenge), and going home early is something he is looking forward to (getting the appearance fee check), then having a real friend -- with whatever obligation toward that person he might feel -- could be a liability. Just throwing out things for people to muse upon...

If he is bragging about being skinnier than ever, as well as he has made it known he never runs at least dating back to previous challenge(s), than he can't expect ot have a long stay there, he just can't in my opinion. Also he is probably more than aware of the vets going, so to me it's about the appearance fee and stirring the pot early and seeing if he can make someone crack or get thrown off or something. Dunbar said it best on the spreecast he was a guest on which i thought was very boring but is still had it on last night, he said Wes is one of those people who is wayyyyy different in real life. That's been said by many from the show and If that vet girl list is accurate, i think they all like him (for most part) and most of the guys do minus maybe CT/Johnny But he will be targeted early and you know frank wants him gone asap unless he is smart and wants to keep him around due to his lack of assets at this moment.

[QUOTE=ColiesMom;338694]Use your "Senior Members" LOL[/QUOTE] Are you referring to my advanced age? :highly_amused:

[QUOTE=V1man;338699]I was simply observing that given Wes' recent challenge experiences, it would not make sense for him to go into a challenge without at least an alliance of one. Of course, if Wes doesn't care if he is targeted by both vets and rookies (assuming there are such useful divisions of cast members on this challenge), and going home early is something is is looking forward to (getting the appearance fee check), the having a real friend might be a liability. Just throwing out things for people to muse upon...[/QUOTE] Yea so its not fact that someone missing from the cast is his bff, ppl were thinking it was. If he really cared about the show he'd try to make a pre show alliance, I definitely dont see as much enthusiasm out of him on these anymore, last time he yelled about something was on the ruins or maybe he used to have an anger problem idk. Besides going in the 1st elimination is his thing, lol I think FM and the duel was the only time it wasnt. I still think the last dude is Derrick K.

What about Nehemiah?

Nehemiah seems like a no go in my opinion. Other career obligations he appears to be focusing on based on what i found..He was never speculated, so no screen shot needed

So many exes pairs on this challenge... Diem/CT, Paula/Dunbar, Jasmine/Tyrie, Camila/Johnny, Naomi/Leroy, than you have Sarah & Wes who were also on that challenge.

I feel like the recent challenges are filled with new kinds, cant remember if it was always like that but before it used to feel like there was mostly vets with a few new ppl in there, I think they are trying to just throw new ppl on the wall and hope some stick. I think FM1 was like that.