The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

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[QUOTE=TiredOfSex;351720]If it was so easy to lead a bunch of people, then why isn't anyone able to do it? Why doesn't CT do it?[/QUOTE] Because hardly anyone likes Him? He doesn't seem to have a lot of friends on these things. Everyone is always against him it seems.
[QUOTE=TiredOfSex;351725]Well, from the preview, it looks like he screwed up whatever plan he had to send in Johnny and Frank. Plus, he has Wes on his team, who will probably be doing a lot of the strategizing. I will give it to him that he usually has all the women in the palm of his hand though. So he's good at getting votes that way, lol.[/QUOTE] One thing I've never relied upon since the beginning of the challenges is any preview from the hands of Bunim Murray Productions; but, if that is what you're working with, good luck to you.
[QUOTE=V1man;351728]One thing I've never relied upon since the beginning of the challenges is any preview from the hands of Bunim Murray Productions; but, if that is what you're working with, good luck to you.[/QUOTE] I'm relying on history as well. CT has been on how many challenges? If he finally does come up with some good strategy on this one, it still doesn't make him one of the best. You have to be able to do it consistently.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;351727]Because hardly anyone likes Him? He doesn't seem to have a lot of friends on these things. Everyone is always against him it seems.[/QUOTE] Isn't the ability to make friends a part of strategizing? Of course you're gonna have to socialize to be able to get people to follow you. But even then, someone like Wes who is hated by a lot of people can get people to work with him. So it's not like it's impossible even if people do hate you.
[QUOTE=V1man;351728]One thing I've never relied upon since the beginning of the challenges is any preview from the hands of Bunim Murray Productions; but, if that is what you're working with, good luck to you.[/QUOTE] I'm not taking a position re CT, simply stating my own process of analysis. Frankly, I couldn't care less about him.
[QUOTE=TiredOfSex;351731]I'm relying on history as well. CT has been on how many challenges? If he finally does come up with some good strategy on this one, it still doesn't make him one of the best. You have to be able to do it consistently.[/QUOTE] I'm not taking a position re CT, simply stating my own process of analysis. Frankly, I couldn't care less about him.
So been thinking about this,is there possibility Nany and Marlon hooked up ,it sounds like that while reading their tweets
Who knows probably did since alot of people were hooking up this season.
[QUOTE=goodgirl;351743]So been thinking about this,is there possibility Nany and Marlon hooked up ,it sounds like that while reading their tweets[/QUOTE] Yes, Marlon hooked up with Nany and Derek, this has been said here before, no?
No ,it's been said Derek and another girl ,didn't know it was Nany ,everyone thought she hooked up with CT
[QUOTE=TiredOfSex;351721]I think the psychological game is part of the competition too and part of being a competitor. For example, in Laurel's interview, she mentioned that Johnny got into Adam's head so much in Rivals that he didn't trust CT as much as he trusted Johnny. That led to the demise of CT and Adam. Again, all aspects of the game can have an effect on the elimination rounds. Not just the elimination round itself. But anyways, if you're just counting eliminations and missions, then do you happen to know CT's record in eliminations and missions that are solo? And is it the best record out there? I'm curious.[/QUOTE] CT is only been targeted once and that was rivals. Inferno his team wanted him, and won the most life shields as a rookie. Inferno 2 won the most life shields out of everyone which included Landon Miz Derrick Abram Darrell and Brad. Duel... Evan is an idiot and lost on a DQ. Inferno 3 and duel 2 he got in a fight. Gauntlet 3 masterminded Evan and Kenny into targeting Johnny instead of Eric. (terrible move but they went with his plan.) Rivals had no alliance. Exes teamed with Johnny and Mark. For having no friends he does pretty well to not be targeted. Laurel just admitted that Adam king threw that elimination round for johnny and tyler. Props for Johnny but that does not effect CT as a competitor or his ability/ natural instinct.
I don't think she said he threw it but that he was not thinking straight because Johnny was in his head
She never said he threw it. Adam was pretty disappointed he lost so he didn't throw it. Also I thought Marlon hooked up with Derek and Jemmye, not Nany.
Derek and Jemmye not Nany
[QUOTE=TheCloser;351765] Laurel just admitted that Adam king threw that elimination round for johnny and tyler. Props for Johnny but that does not effect CT as a competitor or his ability/ natural instinct.[/QUOTE] If by competitor, you just mean physical game, then no. My definition of competitor involves everything though, not just the physical aspect.
There's this interview with CT where people ( pretty sure Johnny) told him that Adam k threw that elimination round but CT didn't care and said it was cool that they ended on good terms. And who would you say is the best? And what do you mean by competitor? Evelyn is easily the best for females, just focusing on males btw.
So who, male or female, is the best projectile vomiter in the cast (He asks after his 4th beer at happy hour)?
have to go with Wes on that one. Or maybe Adam Royer??? For females I would assume paula walnuts. Don't quote me on this one though.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;351768]Derek and Jemmye not Nany[/QUOTE] Was it said somewhere it was Jemmye or is it just based on the trailer?
Both.
So if you look at Theresas instagram account she seems to be mad at Camila,Jemmye,Aneesa and Diem.There is a group picture of all the girls and somebody asked her who all is in the pic and she named all of the girls but reffered to these as broads
[QUOTE=goodgirl;351852]So if you look at Theresas instagram account she seems to be mad at Camila,Jemmye,Aneesa and Diem.There is a group picture of all the girls and somebody asked her who all is in the pic and she named all of the girls but reffered to these as broads[/QUOTE] Probably because they made it farther than her and she blames them. But naturally, Theresa sucks so she has no one to blame.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;351856]Probably because they made it farther than her and she blames them. But naturally, Theresa sucks so she has no one to blame.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say sucks, naomi,katie, etc suck.
[QUOTE=Lostcity;351859]I wouldn't say sucks, naomi,katie, etc suck.[/QUOTE] Unless Nightwolf meant personality-wise, I agree. She's solid and with this female cast, one of the better females.
Does Theresa really have a bad personality? I personally don't really like her, but I can't put my finger on why (and it's been too long since I've seen her on TV to remember any instances of *****iness). She has a prickliness about her that is off-putting, but there are other characters on the show that are worse.
[QUOTE=goodgirl;351852]So if you look at Theresas instagram account she seems to be mad at Camila,Jemmye,Aneesa and Diem.There is a group picture of all the girls and somebody asked her who all is in the pic and she named all of the girls but reffered to these as broads[/QUOTE] In one of the previews it does look like Theresa/camilla are arguing. I cant think of who Theresa/Jaz would side with when it comes to the men cause I'm sure the girls need the guys to make things happen like in voting. I'm going to guess Johnny/Frank since Diem/Aneesa are with CT/Wes and Paula/Emily are definitely Johnny/Frank. Wonder what happened to set her off, then again Theresa is dramatic and fights over sweat pants so she could be but hurt that she was eliminated earlier than all those girls.
Is it true Evelyn retired?
[QUOTE=EveLynn;351868]Is it true Evelyn retired?[/QUOTE] Yes, Evelyn has made it into Harvard Law School so even her Summers will be busy where she clerks for someone involved in her chosen profession. The next 3-4 years are definitely sewn up.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;351869]Yes, Evelyn has made it into Harvard Law School so even her Summers will be busy where she clerks for someone involved in her chosen profession. The next 3-4 years are definitely sewn up.[/QUOTE] Awww well good for her, definitely one of the most strategic/athletic girls to ever grace the Challenge.
I doubt Theresa/Jasmine would be on Johnny/Frank side, mainly because of Jasmine. Jasmine has always looked at CT as one of her closest guy friends on these shows and Theresa has hooked up with Wes. And also, Jasmine kind of hates Johnny because, he is always p*ssing her off by pulling pranks on her.

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