[QUOTE=Debut Album;438276]That's awful. But that is no excuse for him to be homophobic. [B]Homosexuality has NOTHING to do with Pedophilia.[/B] [B]I wish more people would see that.[/B][/QUOTE]
Double post. My B.
[QUOTE=JayTee;438297]Let Alton believe in whatever he wants to believe in. He shouldn't be forced to change his views at all.[/QUOTE]
Would you be saying the same thing if he was racist? Or even Sexist?
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;438299]If I were almost sexually molested by another dude, I would be weary of homosexual males also. I wish more people would see [B]that[/B].
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Once again Homosexuality has NOTHING to do with Pedophilia. A PEDOPHILE sexually molested you NOT a gay man. Pedophiles are attracted to CHILDREN boy or girl. So You would have no reason to be weary of gay men if that were to happen to you. That is a homophobic, Disrespectful, and Ignorant view.
Did anybody see this site? The author doesn't think Trey is going to be on it because he works 3 jobs to pay child support.... did I miss something? Trey has a kid?
[URL]https://thechallengefantasyleague.wordpress.com/2014/07/21/the-challenge-season-26-battle-of-the-exes-2/[/URL]
by the way..i think this is a fantasy cast, no speculation or reliability. just found the side note about Trey strange
[QUOTE=challenge13;438307]Did anybody see this site? The author doesn't think Trey is going to be on it because he works 3 jobs to pay child support.... did I miss something? Trey has a kid?
[URL]https://thechallengefantasyleague.wordpress.com/2014/07/21/the-challenge-season-26-battle-of-the-exes-2/[/URL]
by the way..i think this is a fantasy cast, no speculation or reliability. just found the side note about Trey strange[/QUOTE]
Definitely fantasy. But Brooke/Evelyn would be amazing.
The Trey tidbit is strange. Very strange, considering there has never been mention of it before.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;438224]This a million times, much rather see KellyAnne then some quitter. If she was going to quit then she shouldn't have went in the face off. Besides Kelly Anne is sexy and athletic. Ashil isn't ugly but Shes no KellyAnne.[/QUOTE]
Ashli had a hurt ankle. Lol. She still pulled her weight in the face off. And there were many cast members that challenge who wanted to purposely lose. Hurt ankle plus terrible conditions, id quit too.
[QUOTE=Coralfan;438311]Ashli had a hurt ankle. Lol. She still pulled her weight in the face off. And there were many cast members that challenge who wanted to purposely lose. Hurt ankle plus terrible conditions, id quit too.[/QUOTE]
I'm saying she should have quit before the face off and gave someone else a chance to win a key
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;438312]I'm saying she should have quit before the face off and gave someone else a chance to win a key[/QUOTE]
Well she wanted to tough it out and stay for as long as she can. Can't fault her for that.
I don't see the problem with her quitting.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;438306]Would you be saying the same thing if he was racist? Or even Sexist?
Once again Homosexuality has NOTHING to do with Pedophilia. A PEDOPHILE sexually molested you NOT a gay man. Pedophiles are attracted to CHILDREN boy or girl. So You would have no reason to be weary of gay men if that were to happen to you. That is a homophobic, Disrespectful, and Ignorant view.[/QUOTE]
I think its ignorant for you not so see this from Alton's point of view, he was almost raped by man and his brother and best friend were raped then killed by a man. Those are extremely traumatic experiences for anyone yet alone as a kid. Being around gay men probably brought up bad memories for him. Unless that has happened to you then you can't say his opinion is ignorant.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;438315]I think its ignorant for you not so see this from Alton's point of view, he was almost raped by man and his brother and best friend were raped then killed by a man. Those are extremely traumatic experiences for anyone yet alone as a kid. Being around gay men probably brought up bad memories for him. Unless that has happened to you then you can't say his opinion is ignorant.[/QUOTE]
I see his point of view..But that doesn't make it right or okay for him to be homophobic and "weary" around gay men. Once again. A gay man didn't do that to him and his brother. So there's no reason to feel uncomfortable around gay men. It's Ignorant any way you cut it to think, Insinuate, or even imply that gay men are pedophiles. If you can't see that then YOU'RE the ignorant one.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;438306]Would you be saying the same thing if he was racist? Or even Sexist?
Once again Homosexuality has NOTHING to do with Pedophilia. A PEDOPHILE sexually molested you NOT a gay man. Pedophiles are attracted to CHILDREN boy or girl. So You would have no reason to be weary of gay men if that were to happen to you. That is a homophobic, Disrespectful, and Ignorant view.[/QUOTE]
I understand you're point but you have to look at the situation from his point of view, his brother and best friend were molested AND killed, he himself was almost raped by a man and he was pretty young too so he must have been living in fear for a while and growing up he must have had his guard up and put up a wall against homosexuals. I really don't blame him in fact I sympathize with him.
No disrespect to you or any one in this forum though
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;438224]This a million times, much rather see KellyAnne then some quitter. If she was going to quit then she shouldn't have went in the face off. Besides Kelly Anne is sexy and athletic. Ashil isn't ugly but Shes no KellyAnne.[/QUOTE]
Um excuse you. Ashli Robson is amazing. She still went into the faceoff with a hurt foot and gave it her all. Unfortunately she didn't win, and she knew they weren't going to keep a rookie over Jenn or Paula (I forgot who won). Also, I'm not even into girls, but I would 100% go straight for Ashli Robson.
My take on the Alton situation... yeah, I think Debut has a point that he should be able to move on past those prejudices, but when someone is young and encounters something traumatic, they might not even realize that it's wrong to be afraid of something that they shouldn't be afraid of. When I was little I had a dream that I was in a car that fell over a bridge, and I had a crippling fear of bridges for the next 10 years. Shavonda on the Real World Philadelphia was apparently afraid of mentally challenged people, but she explained that it was because when she was little, she got beat up by one or something like that. When stuff like that happens, the person can't even help being afraid. It's not like Alton was homophobic for no reason, or on purpose. And, for what it's worth, I'm sure he's not like that anymore. He's older and I'm sure he's worked through the trauma and realized not all gay people are at fault for what unfortunately happened.
[QUOTE=Youssarian;438329]Um excuse you. Ashli Robson is amazing. She still went into the faceoff with a hurt foot and gave it her all. Unfortunately she didn't win, and she knew they weren't going to keep a rookie over Jenn or Paula (I forgot who won). Also, I'm not even into girls, but I would 100% go straight for Ashli Robson.
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My take on the Alton situation... yeah, I think Debut has a point that he should be able to move on past those prejudices, but when someone is young and encounters something traumatic, they might not even realize that it's wrong to be afraid of something that they shouldn't be afraid of. When I was little I had a dream that I was in a car that fell over a bridge, and I had a crippling fear of bridges for the next 10 years. Shavonda on the Real World Philadelphia was apparently afraid of mentally challenged people, but she explained that it was because when she was little, she got beat up by one or something like that. When stuff like that happens, the person can't even help being afraid. It's not like Alton was homophobic for no reason, or on purpose. And, for what it's worth, I'm sure he's not like that anymore. He's older and I'm sure he's worked through the trauma and realized not all gay people are at fault for what unfortunately happened.[/B][/QUOTE]
This is the reason why I always look forward seeing your post.
are we sure about the thomas/hailey pairing?...i feel like it might be thomas/jamie and that's why jamie has been saying lately on twitter that she's single (so she and thomas could be on exes2)
idk that's just my guess, i could be completely wrong but i feel like that could be..
[QUOTE=wildcat777;438337]are we sure about the thomas/hailey pairing?...i feel like it might be thomas/jamie and that's why jamie has been saying lately on twitter that she's single (so she and thomas could be on exes2)
idk that's just my guess, i could be completely wrong but i feel like that could be..[/QUOTE]
Hailey did testing already and sign a contract...Jamie/Thomas broke up for real, the same way as Laurel/Jordan.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;438338]Hailey did testing already and sign a contract...Jamie/Thomas broke up for real, the same way as Laurel/Jordan.[/QUOTE]
ok. i bet thomas and hailey will actually be a great team.. although hailey is small she seems really athletic (i think she plays soccer) and thomas is probably also athletic, even though he doesn't have huge muscles like corey or brian had, he still beat corey in an arm wrestling match...
idk but i bet they actually make it pretty far.. the other pairs shouldn't sleep on them..their only disadvantage will be the fact that they are rookies so teams might throw them in early but idk we'll see
[QUOTE=wildcat777;438340]ok. i bet thomas and hailey will actually be a great team.. although hailey is small she seems really athletic (i think she plays soccer) and thomas is probably also athletic, even though he doesn't have huge muscles like corey or brian had, he still beat corey in an arm wrestling match...
idk but i bet they actually make it pretty far.. the other pairs shouldn't sleep on them..their only disadvantage will be the fact that they are rookies so teams might throw them in early but idk we'll see[/QUOTE]
I think they have the potential to be a dark horse team, their only problem would be with politics and something that caters to size. Hailey and Thomas in a final could be dangerous since she used to play soccer, so she must have endurance and he plays tennis, which isn't as easy as it seems.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;438342]But then again lets keep in mind that maybe it's not Exes 2 (Which I highly doubt at this point)[/QUOTE]
At this point, I'd be in shock if it were anything other than Exes 2.
[QUOTE=nevidcm;438343]I think they have the potential to be a dark horse team, their only problem would be with politics and something that caters to size. Hailey and Thomas in a final could be dangerous since she used to play soccer, so she must have endurance and he plays tennis, which isn't as easy as it seems.[/QUOTE]
yeah i completely agree. if they can figure out the political aspect of the game they could be really dangerous especially in a final.
[QUOTE=wildcat777;438345]yeah i completely agree. if they can figure out the political aspect of the game they could be really dangerous especially in a final.[/QUOTE]
Tom & Hailey pulling out a win would be incredible (same goes for Trey & Laura).
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;438346]Tom & Hailey pulling out a win would be incredible (same goes for Trey & Laura).[/QUOTE]
tom and hailey kinda remind me of a dustin/heather pairing from exes 1... they were both not necessarily a big strong team but they're going to do good in each challenge and make it far as long as they don't get voted in to elimination too much (or get hurt like dustin haha).. but once it comes time to the final everything is far game and there's no more political game so anything could happen
[QUOTE=wildcat777;438347][B]tom and hailey kinda remind me of a dustin/heather pairing from exes 1[/B]... they were both not necessarily a big strong team but they're going to do good in each challenge and make it far as long as they don't get voted in to elimination too much (or get hurt like dustin haha).. but once it comes time to the final everything is far game and there's no more political game so anything could happen[/QUOTE]
Let's hope they do not fall victim to the same BS fate that Dustin/Heather experienced...
This season I'm going to attempt to go spoiler free minus the first couple of eliminations (just to confirm format). If Hailey is out early, A) my spoiler-free plan is out of the window, B) it'll be a long night of drinking.
Has anyone with sources heard whether or not it is possible this season will air before RW: Chicago? They've never broken the cycle before, but there's some indicators as to why they might (introducing Ex-Plosion, filming finishing before RW does, etc.).
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;438348]Let's hope they do not fall victim to the same BS fate that Dustin/Heather experienced...
This season I'm going to attempt to go spoiler free minus the first couple of eliminations (just to confirm format). If Hailey is out early, A) my spoiler-free plan is out of the window, B) it'll be a long night of drinking.
Has anyone with sources heard whether or not it is possible this season will air [B]before RW: Chicago?[/B][/QUOTE]
By what I heard it will be the same as always Real World then Challenge ;)
[QUOTE=PinkRose;438349]By what I heard it will be the same as always Real World then Challenge ;)[/QUOTE]
Had I been cast for RW: Chicago, I'd be pissed knowing I wouldn't debut on a Challenge until season 27.
Hailey does not strike me as a good competitor. I think people's over-the-top liking of her (which I find strange) is going to put them in the rankings much higher than they deserve.
Jenna, to me, appears to be much more athletic and capable. If Jay can do well then that team could be a team to watch out for.
Tom and Hailey I look at as fodder
[QUOTE=Lola88;438358]Hailey does not strike me as a good competitor. I think people's over-the-top liking of her (which I find strange) is going to put them in the rankings much higher than they deserve.
Jenna, to me, appears to be much more athletic and capable. If Jay can do well then that team could be a team to watch out for.
[B][U]Tom and Hailey I look at as fodder[/U][/B][/QUOTE]
More so than Swift & Jasmine?
[QUOTE=Lola88;438358]Hailey does not strike me as a good competitor. I think people's over-the-top liking of her (which I find strange) is going to put them in the rankings much higher than they deserve.
Jenna, to me, appears to be much more athletic and capable. If Jay can do well then that team could be a team to watch out for.
Tom and Hailey I look at as fodder[/QUOTE]
Oh please after this I stopped reading after you mentioned Jenna over Hailey. Hailey was queen B and had some classic Katie moments. We like her because she put Jamie/Tom in their ******* place which was very much needed. smh....
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;438350]Had I been cast for RW: Chicago, I'd be pissed knowing I wouldn't debut on a Challenge until season 27.[/QUOTE]
if there is even a challenge 27. but you're right.
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