TJ is great IMO. He does shit on competitors because they are lame and they quit. It's like why did you come on the show? Some of these people need to be called out and humbled because they are quitters and/or have big egos. Mark and Eric were unprofessional, they like had to read from their clipboards. Mark had personality. Eric shouldn't have been there. I didn't even notice him.
Some of these people do need to be called out...but not by him and not because they quit either. That's not really a big deal IMO.
Holly S and christena could have been elite if they were in more challenges
Holly S imo is already there....Christena definitely would have.
Holly S definitely deserves a spot on the list of all-time greatest girls. She was one of the best & did it with a great personality, unlike the wretched Ev or Laurel.
Well to be fair the girls back then weren't really that impressive to beat.
TJ is great IMO. He does shit on competitors because they are lame and they quit. It's like why did you come on the show? Some of these people need to be called out and humbled because they are quitters and/or have big egos. Mark and Eric were unprofessional, they like had to read from their clipboards. Mark had personality. Eric shouldn't have been there. I didn't even notice him.
Some of these people do need to be called out...but not by him and not because they quit either. That's not really a big deal IMO.
IMO It's not a big deal if it was an individual game but it's a huge deal if the quitter has a partner.
TJ is great IMO. He does shit on competitors because they are lame and they quit. It's like why did you come on the show? Some of these people need to be called out and humbled because they are quitters and/or have big egos. Mark and Eric were unprofessional, they like had to read from their clipboards. Mark had personality. Eric shouldn't have been there. I didn't even notice him.
Some of these people do need to be called out...but not by him and not because they quit either. That's not really a big deal IMO.
IMO It's not a big deal if it was an individual game but it's a huge deal if the quitter has a partner.
Not really...especially if your partner sucks and you know your not gonna get very far or win with them.
Holly (Road Rules Maximum Velocity Tour) would be number one all time for the females if she did at least three challenges IMO. I would also say that Rachel is better than Jodi, its close though since both have their mental weaknesses.
I disagree...Rachel has always proven herself to be one of the more mentally strong people in the game. I've never seen her buckle under pressure or break down in some sort of fashion (Laurel, Ev & Jodi at one point). The only time I can think of is on BOTSexes but this was when she got voted off, which is normal I guess for a woman to be emotional when something like that happens lol especially the way that it did.
She lost to both KellyAnne and Brittini in endurance based events on the Island (in The Rack faceoff) and the Duel 2 (in the Burnt mission), which showed mental weakness. She also showed mental weakness in Dangle Duo on the Duel 2 and was the reason her and Mark lost to Landon and Brittini by only eleven seconds (had Rachel brought her A game her and Mark would of won the mission). As Emily stated on Battle of the Sexes, Rachel didn't have the focus, despite her athleticism. I would also like to thrown in her lost to Irulan in a wrestling match on her Road Rules season during the faceoff againt Real World Las Vegas (which was somewhat of an upset and ended up being the reason why Real World won). She is still a good competitor, but fully capable of having mental lapses as shown in those examples.
rachel outperformed brittani on dangle duo when you consider that brittani only won by 11 seconds while using Landon as a ladder the entire time. Rachel had to get up the majority of rungs herself like tori...except Tori's time wasn't even close
they lost because Landon had a superior strategy not because Rachel was inferior to brittani. Imagine if Rachel were partnered with Landon there. The discrepancy between first place team and second woukd be far more than 11 seconds
Rachel did not outperform Brittini, Rachel said so herself in a confessional that she basically didn't have her focus in the mission and Mark was nearly just as good as Landon in the mission. Stop crediting Landon for everything he does pair wise (such as with Carely on Fresh Meat 2), Brittini performed better than Rachel in the mission.
where did she say this? During the episode?
landon had a far superior strategy. That's what allowed them to win by a mere 11 seconds. Watch the episode yourself. Brittani wins by only seconds when using Landon as a stool the entire time
TJ is great IMO. He does shit on competitors because they are lame and they quit. It's like why did you come on the show? Some of these people need to be called out and humbled because they are quitters and/or have big egos. Mark and Eric were unprofessional, they like had to read from their clipboards. Mark had personality. Eric shouldn't have been there. I didn't even notice him.
Some of these people do need to be called out...but not by him and not because they quit either. That's not really a big deal IMO.
IMO It's not a big deal if it was an individual game but it's a huge deal if the quitter has a partner.
IMO it's kinda a big deal. They are literally taking someone else's spot and love for competition. If you can't take it, then don't sign up for it. But then again, that's my opinion.
People ranked Landon ahead of CT and Theo generally because of Landon's performances on the Duel 2 and Fresh Meat 2. But you fail to analyze those seasons as both had lackluster competition overall (especially Fresh Meat 2).
Holly (Road Rules Maximum Velocity Tour) would be number one all time for the females if she did at least three challenges IMO. I would also say that Rachel is better than Jodi, its close though since both have their mental weaknesses.
I disagree...Rachel has always proven herself to be one of the more mentally strong people in the game. I've never seen her buckle under pressure or break down in some sort of fashion (Laurel, Ev & Jodi at one point). The only time I can think of is on BOTSexes but this was when she got voted off, which is normal I guess for a woman to be emotional when something like that happens lol especially the way that it did.
She lost to both KellyAnne and Brittini in endurance based events on the Island (in The Rack faceoff) and the Duel 2 (in the Burnt mission), which showed mental weakness. She also showed mental weakness in Dangle Duo on the Duel 2 and was the reason her and Mark lost to Landon and Brittini by only eleven seconds (had Rachel brought her A game her and Mark would of won the mission). As Emily stated on Battle of the Sexes, Rachel didn't have the focus, despite her athleticism. I would also like to thrown in her lost to Irulan in a wrestling match on her Road Rules season during the faceoff againt Real World Las Vegas (which was somewhat of an upset and ended up being the reason why Real World won). She is still a good competitor, but fully capable of having mental lapses as shown in those examples.
rachel outperformed brittani on dangle duo when you consider that brittani only won by 11 seconds while using Landon as a ladder the entire time. Rachel had to get up the majority of rungs herself like tori...except Tori's time wasn't even close
they lost because Landon had a superior strategy not because Rachel was inferior to brittani. Imagine if Rachel were partnered with Landon there. The discrepancy between first place team and second woukd be far more than 11 seconds
Rachel did not outperform Brittini, Rachel said so herself in a confessional that she basically didn't have her focus in the mission and Mark was nearly just as good as Landon in the mission. Stop crediting Landon for everything he does pair wise (such as with Carely on Fresh Meat 2), Brittini performed better than Rachel in the mission.
where did she say this? During the episode?
landon had a far superior strategy. That's what allowed them to win by a mere 11 seconds. Watch the episode yourself. Brittani wins by only seconds when using Landon as a stool the entire time
Mark's strategy was just as effective, Rachel did not have her focus in that mission and she said so herself in a confessional.
Holly S and christena could have been elite if they were in more challenges
Holly S imo is already there....Christena definitely would have.
Holly S definitely deserves a spot on the list of all-time greatest girls. She was one of the best & did it with a great personality, unlike the wretched Ev or Laurel.
Well to be fair the girls back then weren't really that impressive to beat.
Thats why I have a hard time ranking older challengers. Their competition wasn't as strong and the challenges were much weaker.
I think it would be funny to see him interact with the cast on a daily basis and on a more personal level. I wonder who he would associate himself with.
I love Theo he is probably my 3rd/4th favorite male to ever play. But I would definitely put Lando Commando ahead of him competition wise.
Theo was never outperformed overall by another competitor in individual based missions on a season (nor did he ever DQ'd in a mission). On Battle of the Seasons, he was the best overall male performer, same on the Gauntlet and he was tied with Dan Setzler for best male competitor on Battle of the Sexes 2. As for Landon, he was outperformed overall by CT and Derrick on the Inferno 2. So by default, Theo is more deserving of a higer ranking since he's pretty much flawless in mission performance (while Landon was outperformed overall and DQ'd in a mission before). Theo also outperformed better competitors than Landon ever outperformed. Theo outperformed Dan Setzler (a top five competitor all time) on Battle of the Seasons, a peak Miz and Alton on the Gauntlet (the two best Real World males on that season), and a younger and fitter Mark on Battle of the Sexes 2. The best competitor that Landon outperformed overall was 37 year old Mark on the Duel 2. I know its hard for the majority to accept, but there is no question that Theo has the more impressive resume when you actually analyze the two challengers in greater detail.
Yeah, but Theo never competed in an individual based elimination round. Landon has, but he defeated low tier competition (Dan R, Karamo and Isaac). The only time Landon faced an actual worthy opponent he lost (Brad on the Duel 2). So with that, you can pretty much discredit individual elimination rounds, since Theo never competed in one and Landon never defeated a quality competitor. Bringing up Theo's lost on Fresh Meat doesn't hold much relevance because that was a pair challenge, and Theo and Chanda lost as a team (there is no I in team). In terms of individual performance (not pair), the Theo and Landon debate simply comes down to mission performance (which makes up the majority of a competitors stats) and Theo has the edge over Landon in that category (which is the most imporant area). In terms of overall ability, Theo and Landon are pretty much on par in terms of physical strength and athleticism, while skill and consistency goes to Theo and endurance and stamina goes to Landon. Intelligence is a tough choice, yes Theo didn't "bring his brain" to his Exile on Fresh Meat when dealing with the puzzle, but he easily figured out the puzzle in Rush Hour (Battle of the Seasons) and was the best male in that mission. Landon figured out all of the puzzles on Fresh Meat 2, but was one of the first males eliminated in Spelling Air (the Duel 2). So both Theo and Landon have shown to be strong and weak in the intellectual category competition wise on the Challenge ( I don't want to read about Landon being a dentist and etc because it doesn't have to do with his challenge performances). Lastly, leadership goes to Theo as he was Road Rules co captain on the Gauntlet, and a leader throughout Battle of the Sexes 2.
yeah but Landon had probably the worst partner in Fresh Meat 2 and he WON..... Did Theo partner was also that bad? I do not think so. Or you gonna add another category = teamwork ability? Theo lost with his average partner to Kenny and TINA. Landon won finale with his weak partner, against Laurel and Kenny. Same male, better girl partner. Tell me, how well Theo would have done with Carley?
And pls do not say Brad is good or something. Brad won over CT too.
Im not sure about the Gauntlet.. season never stood out to me so I don't know what the statistics were like you. But Theo's Battle of the Seasons performance is one of the best. Him and Holly were pretty much flawless. Only if they won, even though Holly was *****y.
I want to know if there is going to be a set mix of 7 between the Bloodlines and AYTO or are they going to continue casting AYTO on a season by season basis and 7 Bloodlines returning like Fresh Meat.
I honestly say Adam K. for AYTO return and Emily/Raphy will likely get a call cause there first appearance was on a challenge and they have no association to any alumni.
yeah but Landon had probably the worst partner in Fresh Meat 2 and he WON..... Did Theo partner was also that bad? I do not think so. Or you gonna add another category = teamwork ability? Theo lost with his average partner to Kenny and TINA. Landon won finale with his weak partner, against Laurel and Kenny. Same male, better girl partner. Tell me, how well Theo would have done with Carley?
And pls do not say Brad is good or something. Brad won over CT too.
Again, Landon biggest competition on that season competitive wise was Kenny (who's not even a top 30 competitor all time in terms of individual performance). Landon had no competition on the male side, he was the only top tier competitor competing and Laurel actually performed just as bad (if not worse) than Carely in the final and held Kenny (a good final mission performer) back. Theo also had more weight to carry than Kenny, the Exiles on the original Fresh Meat were unfair because of the weight distribution, which is why Wes and Casey dominated the Exile (they always had less weight). And Theo could easily win with Carely on the same challenge as Landon did, since Laurel held Kenny back and Theo was a lot better than Kenny (Kenny even called Theo "really good" competitor on Derrick's podcast). Lastly, what do you mean Brad is not good? Brad was a good competitor on all of his challenges outside of Cutthroat and was a top three performer on Battle of the Sexes 2 (which featured the toughest overall male competition in challenge history) and the Duel 2 (Brad outperformed Evan overall despite Evan's win).
Im not sure about the Gauntlet.. season never stood out to me so I don't know what the statistics were like you. But Theo's Battle of the Seasons performance is one of the best. Him and Holly were pretty much flawless. Only if they won, even though Holly was *****y.
Theo outperformed a peak Miz and Alton overall in the individual missions on that season. That's why its more impressive, since the Miz and Alton on the Gauntlet were better than Mark and Brad on the Duel 2 (Landon's closest competition). Not to mention the Gauntlet featured missions which tested competitors in a variety of different areas, and not just in the physical aspect as the Duel 2 did. So when you look at overall performance, Theo's is superior.
also, i would not say spelling is same with puzzle. Landon have proved to be good with puzzles.
I do not know about you guys, but if I had to choose my partner between Theo, Landon or CT, sure as hell I would choose Landon.
You have the right to choose which you feel is better for you, but CT and Theo are above Landon in the rankings statistically/performance wise regardless of what anyone says.
Some of these people do need to be called out...but not by him and not because they quit either. That's not really a big deal IMO.
Well to be fair the girls back then weren't really that impressive to beat.
IMO It's not a big deal if it was an individual game but it's a huge deal if the quitter has a partner.
Not really...especially if your partner sucks and you know your not gonna get very far or win with them.
landon had a far superior strategy. That's what allowed them to win by a mere 11 seconds. Watch the episode yourself. Brittani wins by only seconds when using Landon as a stool the entire time
IMO it's kinda a big deal. They are literally taking someone else's spot and love for competition. If you can't take it, then don't sign up for it. But then again, that's my opinion.
People ranked Landon ahead of CT and Theo generally because of Landon's performances on the Duel 2 and Fresh Meat 2. But you fail to analyze those seasons as both had lackluster competition overall (especially Fresh Meat 2).
Mark's strategy was just as effective, Rachel did not have her focus in that mission and she said so herself in a confessional.
1.) CT
2.) Theo
3.) Landon
There you go!
Thats why I have a hard time ranking older challengers. Their competition wasn't as strong and the challenges were much weaker.
I love Theo he is probably my 3rd/4th favorite male to ever play. But I would definitely put Lando Commando ahead of him competition wise.
Imagine TJ as a competitor. That'd be sick!
tj and jay for rivals 3
I wonder what TJ gets paid per season.
Theo was never outperformed overall by another competitor in individual based missions on a season (nor did he ever DQ'd in a mission). On Battle of the Seasons, he was the best overall male performer, same on the Gauntlet and he was tied with Dan Setzler for best male competitor on Battle of the Sexes 2. As for Landon, he was outperformed overall by CT and Derrick on the Inferno 2. So by default, Theo is more deserving of a higer ranking since he's pretty much flawless in mission performance (while Landon was outperformed overall and DQ'd in a mission before). Theo also outperformed better competitors than Landon ever outperformed. Theo outperformed Dan Setzler (a top five competitor all time) on Battle of the Seasons, a peak Miz and Alton on the Gauntlet (the two best Real World males on that season), and a younger and fitter Mark on Battle of the Sexes 2. The best competitor that Landon outperformed overall was 37 year old Mark on the Duel 2. I know its hard for the majority to accept, but there is no question that Theo has the more impressive resume when you actually analyze the two challengers in greater detail.
its not all about missions, you know...
Yeah, but Theo never competed in an individual based elimination round. Landon has, but he defeated low tier competition (Dan R, Karamo and Isaac). The only time Landon faced an actual worthy opponent he lost (Brad on the Duel 2). So with that, you can pretty much discredit individual elimination rounds, since Theo never competed in one and Landon never defeated a quality competitor. Bringing up Theo's lost on Fresh Meat doesn't hold much relevance because that was a pair challenge, and Theo and Chanda lost as a team (there is no I in team). In terms of individual performance (not pair), the Theo and Landon debate simply comes down to mission performance (which makes up the majority of a competitors stats) and Theo has the edge over Landon in that category (which is the most imporant area). In terms of overall ability, Theo and Landon are pretty much on par in terms of physical strength and athleticism, while skill and consistency goes to Theo and endurance and stamina goes to Landon. Intelligence is a tough choice, yes Theo didn't "bring his brain" to his Exile on Fresh Meat when dealing with the puzzle, but he easily figured out the puzzle in Rush Hour (Battle of the Seasons) and was the best male in that mission. Landon figured out all of the puzzles on Fresh Meat 2, but was one of the first males eliminated in Spelling Air (the Duel 2). So both Theo and Landon have shown to be strong and weak in the intellectual category competition wise on the Challenge ( I don't want to read about Landon being a dentist and etc because it doesn't have to do with his challenge performances). Lastly, leadership goes to Theo as he was Road Rules co captain on the Gauntlet, and a leader throughout Battle of the Sexes 2.
Theo's Gauntlet perfomance > Landon's Duel 2 performance
In terms of which is more impressive.
yeah but Landon had probably the worst partner in Fresh Meat 2 and he WON..... Did Theo partner was also that bad? I do not think so. Or you gonna add another category = teamwork ability? Theo lost with his average partner to Kenny and TINA. Landon won finale with his weak partner, against Laurel and Kenny. Same male, better girl partner. Tell me, how well Theo would have done with Carley?
And pls do not say Brad is good or something. Brad won over CT too.
Im not sure about the Gauntlet.. season never stood out to me so I don't know what the statistics were like you. But Theo's Battle of the Seasons performance is one of the best. Him and Holly were pretty much flawless. Only if they won, even though Holly was *****y.
chanda was actually pretty good, they just couldnt figure out the puzzle.
also, i would not say spelling is same with puzzle. Landon have proved to be good with puzzles.
I do not know about you guys, but if I had to choose my partner between Theo, Landon or CT, sure as hell I would choose Landon.
I want to know if there is going to be a set mix of 7 between the Bloodlines and AYTO or are they going to continue casting AYTO on a season by season basis and 7 Bloodlines returning like Fresh Meat.
I honestly say Adam K. for AYTO return and Emily/Raphy will likely get a call cause there first appearance was on a challenge and they have no association to any alumni.
Again, Landon biggest competition on that season competitive wise was Kenny (who's not even a top 30 competitor all time in terms of individual performance). Landon had no competition on the male side, he was the only top tier competitor competing and Laurel actually performed just as bad (if not worse) than Carely in the final and held Kenny (a good final mission performer) back. Theo also had more weight to carry than Kenny, the Exiles on the original Fresh Meat were unfair because of the weight distribution, which is why Wes and Casey dominated the Exile (they always had less weight). And Theo could easily win with Carely on the same challenge as Landon did, since Laurel held Kenny back and Theo was a lot better than Kenny (Kenny even called Theo "really good" competitor on Derrick's podcast). Lastly, what do you mean Brad is not good? Brad was a good competitor on all of his challenges outside of Cutthroat and was a top three performer on Battle of the Sexes 2 (which featured the toughest overall male competition in challenge history) and the Duel 2 (Brad outperformed Evan overall despite Evan's win).
Theo outperformed a peak Miz and Alton overall in the individual missions on that season. That's why its more impressive, since the Miz and Alton on the Gauntlet were better than Mark and Brad on the Duel 2 (Landon's closest competition). Not to mention the Gauntlet featured missions which tested competitors in a variety of different areas, and not just in the physical aspect as the Duel 2 did. So when you look at overall performance, Theo's is superior.
I actually want to see Fresh Meat now
Lets see how this amazing Theo performs with his good partner.
You have the right to choose which you feel is better for you, but CT and Theo are above Landon in the rankings statistically/performance wise regardless of what anyone says.
Landon is dentist? really? wow
did not know that
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