The Challenge: Free Agents - Speculation (Spoilers)

My guesses if the people are right Vets won...Theresa beat Jemmye and Chet beat Dustin Vets won...Aneesa beat Nia and Brandon beat Frank Vets won...Jessica beat Jasmine and we don't have any rumors yet so I'll go with Jordan beat the person we don't know is there.

I really want to see Chet beat Dustin in a physical elimination to shut up all the Chet haters.

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;379615]It was something physical it doesn't change much. Love that you aren't even counting that mission, Leroy failed to hold Jordan down and he screwed up for them in the original elimination against Zach/Trey. He has even admitted it. He's a good competitor and I've already listed examples showing how/why.[/QUOTE] You've altered facts to make them indicate something they don;t. I'm not counting blind leading the blind--it proved nothing. Again, let's see who lasts longer--Leroy or Dustin this season. Want to take any bets?

I love Chet. He is too funny, glad to see him and Devyn back.

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;379617]I really want to see Chet beat Dustin in a physical elimination to shut up all the Chet haters.[/QUOTE] I can't stand Chet personally but he is underappreciated IMO and I wouldn't be surprised at all watching him not only beat Dustin but beating him with relative ease.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;379618]You've altered facts to make them indicate something they don;t. I'm not counting blind leading the blind--it proved nothing. Again, let's see who lasts longer--Leroy or Dustin this season. Want to take any bets?[/QUOTE] Sounds like a fair bet! Someone spotted twice by two different people and speculated to be gone against someone who has not whatsoever. :)

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;379621]Sounds like a fair bet! Someone spotted twice by two different people and speculated to be gone against someone who has not whatsoever. :)[/QUOTE] Would you have made the bet prior to the challenge? I think not. Dustin leaving early is not surprising. I wouldn't bet on him in a physical challenge against any of the 6 vet guys we know

[QUOTE=kvm1977;379622]Would you have made the bet prior to the challenge? I think not. Dustin leaving early is not surprising. I wouldn't bet on him in a physical challenge against any of the 6 vet guys we know[/QUOTE] Probably not, but nothing to do with his or Leroy's abilities as a competitor. Leroy's in a great spot in his team and is on a much better team, Dustin isn't. Yet you're the only to say so... I've never claimed he would beat CT, Johnny, Leroy, Ty, Brandon in something physical. No comment on Chet.

Molds current activity it says "Modifying post"...Hopefully it's the thread for the cast. *wishful thinking*

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;379623]Probably not, but nothing to do with his or Leroy's abilities as a competitor. Leroy's in a great spot in his team and is on a much better team, Dustin isn't. Yet you're the only to say so... I've never claimed he would beat CT, Johnny, Leroy, Ty, Brandon in something physical. No comment on Chet.[/QUOTE] If you admit he can't beat 5 of those 6 how good is he? Leroy has a better shot because he's liked by castmates AND before he's a far better athlete Dustin isn't good--never has shown anything to suggest it is surprising he left early. He was never going to make it past episode 3 IMO

[QUOTE=kvm1977;379606]You're altering the story...the story was the Leroy wanted to quit but Mike talked him threw it then Mike quit...that was the story that was always told. At the end of the day this doesn't alter how little Dustin has done. Leroy has been more impressive than Dustin even if all we have is Leroy beating Wes. Dustin's at home--that proves my point. Dustin isn't good--just liked by the fans.[/QUOTE] Leroy himself said he got a great edit during the rivals 1 final on his ustream. He said he was *****ing and moping the whole time and wanted to quit several times. The only impressive thing Leroy has done is climb a rope, beating Wes is not impressive at all given the size difference. Leroy only has physical strength over Dustin, Dustin is better all around. What was his excuse for rivals 2? Let me guess, it was Ty's fault they lost.

[QUOTE=Lostcity;379627]Leroy himself said he got a great edit during the rivals 1 final on his ustream. He said he was *****ing and moping the whole time and wanted to quit several times. The only impressive thing Leroy has done is climb a rope, beating Wes is not impressive at all given the size difference. Leroy only has physical strength over Dustin, Dustin is better all around. What was his excuse for rivals 2? Let me guess, it was Ty's fault they lost.[/QUOTE] dustin isn't better all around--it's just comical. Both have basically no intelligence and Dustin isn't beating Leroy in any physical. Not sure what you think Dustin brings.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;379628]dustin isn't better all around--it's just comical. Both have basically no intelligence and Dustin isn't beating Leroy in any physical. Not sure what you think Dustin brings.[/QUOTE] I think overall Dustin is a better competitor. All Leroy has is his size and would probably be able to take out Dustin in something head to head and physical but other than that Dustin's got him. I don't think Leroy could have done the underwater mental elimination on BOTS as fast as Dustin nor the strategy elimination. Plus Dustin actually made it through the final with Trishelle getting second who isn't terrible but isn't great.

[QUOTE=KChallenge10;379629]I think overall Dustin is a better competitor. All Leroy has is his size and would probably be able to take out Dustin in something head to head and physical but other than that Dustin's got him. I don't think Leroy could have done the underwater mental elimination on BOTS as fast as Dustin nor the strategy elimination. Plus Dustin actually made it through the final with Trishelle getting second who isn't terrible but isn't great.[/QUOTE] The fact Dustin and Trishelle couldn't beat a team with Sam or Devyn is awful We simply disagree. I don't get the Dustin love at all. I don't even know why people like him as a person but I can set that aside when discussing his ability. Dustin leaving early in this challenge was basically a lock IMO. He's not intelligent, not athletic and not physical. I'm not sure what he brings. People aren't being realistic about Dustin at all.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;379628]dustin isn't better all around--it's just comical. Both have basically no intelligence and Dustin isn't beating Leroy in any physical. Not sure what you think Dustin brings.[/QUOTE] Dustin is a better swimmer, has more stamina, more endurance than Leroy. So now where judging competitors on their physically level? Leroy isn't beating the old big easy in something physical does that mean that big easy is better than Leroy? No it doesn't Leroy got embarrased against jordan and marlon, and he himself admitted he screwed up the breaking on through elimination. I'm not a Dustin fan, but saying he isn't good because he's not as physical is ****. Dustin wouldn't win a duel, but neither would Leroy. Leroy is overrated until he does something impressive I'll say otherwise.

[QUOTE=Lostcity;379631]Dustin is a better swimmer, has more stamina, more endurance than Leroy. So now where judging competitors on their physically level? Leroy isn't beating the old big easy in something physical does that mean that big easy is better than Leroy? No it doesn't Leroy got embarrased against jordan and marlon, and he himself admitted he screwed up the breaking on through elimination. I'm not a Dustin fan, but saying he isn't good because he's not as physical is ****. Dustin wouldn't win a duel, but neither would Leroy. Leroy is overrated until he does something impressive I'll say otherwise.[/QUOTE] I'll give you a better swimmer...that's it. Leroy has a shot to win a duel because people are going to be scared to call him out. Dustin wouldn't last 3 episodes in a duel. The only guys I'd call out on this cast before Dustin would be Johnny R and Swift and that's just because I don't think they're going to be strong...that may even change. I'd take my chances against Dustin over Cohutta or Chet any day.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;379630]The fact Dustin and Trishelle couldn't beat a team with Sam or Devyn is awful We simply disagree. I don't get the Dustin love at all. I don't even know why people like him as a person but I can set that aside when discussing his ability. Dustin leaving early in this challenge was basically a lock IMO. He's not intelligent, not athletic and not physical. I'm not sure what he brings. People aren't being realistic about Dustin at all.[/QUOTE] I guess we will have to wait and find out what happened he could have lost in a puzzle or something like that. Like you said good competitors have left challenges early before while people like Devyn and Sam have made finals so it doesn't always mean much. You just never know but I personally think he's a pretty good competitor not great or elite player but pretty good. I get what your saying with him leaving early so I guess we will find out what happens when it airs.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;379632]I'll give you a better swimmer...that's it. Leroy has a shot to win a duel because people are going to be scared to call him out. Dustin wouldn't last 3 episodes in a duel. The only guys I'd call out on this cast before Dustin would be Johnny R and Swift and that's just because I don't think they're going to be strong...that may even change. I'd take my chances against Dustin over Cohutta or Chet any day.[/QUOTE] lol Leroy would never have a shot to win a Duel unless the guys side of the cast was extremely poor. Dustin could but the only way he would be able to is completely avoid eliminations which probably wouldn't happen.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;379632]I'll give you a better swimmer...that's it. Leroy has a shot to win a duel because people are going to be scared to call him out. Dustin wouldn't last 3 episodes in a duel. The only guys I'd call out on this cast before Dustin would be Johnny R and Swift and that's just because I don't think they're going to be strong...that may even change. I'd take my chances against Dustin over Cohutta or Chet any day.[/QUOTE] So you think Leroy, who came in 3rd on a final, who isn't very intelligent, and is a bad swimmer has a shot to win a duel? That's crazy talk, no one's scared of Leroy, the elimination game isn't always going to be a physical one. People would call out Leroy before they call out CT,Zach,or any other past vets that would be there.

Good Grief, this forum is getting so confrontational that there is no wonder the mods are avoiding it. Can't we all just get along?????:encouragement: Haha

I really hope for all physical eliminations like the gauntlet 2 had.

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;379638]I really hope for all physical eliminations like the gauntlet 2 had.[/QUOTE] That wouldn't be fair and makes for too predictable elimination rounds. See Jasmine/Jonna vs. Sarah/Katelynn.

I like physical eliminations, but I also like when there's a bit of strategy or intellect that plays into it. Something like Spot On from Duel 2, or Ascender from Duel 1. Gives some guys who aren't necessarily better physical athletes a chance, but also tests the mental capabilities of a physical beast

Just because its physical doesn't mean its predictable, just look at Diem VS Jenn, Kimberly VS Ruthie, Derrick VS Syrus

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;379641]Just because its physical doesn't mean its predictable, just look at Diem VS Jenn, Kimberly VS Ruthie, Derrick VS Syrus[/QUOTE] Even then, a good mix is needed.

The only mental eliminations that didn't bore the **** out of me were Knot so fast and Name that Coconut

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;379641]Just because its physical doesn't mean its predictable, just look at Diem VS Jenn, Kimberly VS Ruthie, Derrick VS Syrus[/QUOTE] Kimberly used strategy to beat Ruthie but the other two are valid.

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;379639]That wouldn't be fair and makes for too predictable elimination rounds. See Jasmine/Jonna vs. Sarah/Katelynn.[/QUOTE] You mean Laruel/Cara right?

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;379644]The only mental eliminations that didn't bore the **** out of me were Knot so fast and Name that Coconut[/QUOTE] There have been some good non-pysical elimnination rounds: Jonna/Jasmine vs. Sarah/Katelynn, Ev/Luke vs. Landon/Carley, Shoots and Ladders (Wes/Chet and Tonya/Diem), Spool (Wes/Cohutta, Kim/Ibis).

Still I don't mind if you need strategy if there's a physical aspect to it.