Honestly Considering the veterans are mostly made up of people From Recent shows I would be okay with them winning. All I would ask For is Johnny Backpack and CT to get Eliminated From the show and I Would be okay with the Veterans winning.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;379128]It's completely unbalanced, are you kidding me? But look at the **** rookies side, look at the female side in particular and compare them to the veterans. From the get-go people thought it was unbalanced and weak.[/QUOTE]
It's easy to say now that the eliminations are coming out, i'd liek to have seen you say that before they started that's all..Also no i saw complaints that some people weren't asked, but not saying it was ungodly unfair so i disagree ...
I am sure you thought(as did i and a lot of people) frank and dustin would at least compete in the end and give them a run, but they are gone already, no one expected that
[QUOTE=Debut Album;379129]Honestly Considering the veterans are mostly made up of people From Recent shows I would be okay with them winning. All I would ask For is Johnny Backpack and CT to get Eliminated From the show and I Would be okay with the Veterans winning.[/QUOTE]
CT isn't going home but I do hope Johnny does
[QUOTE=Debut Album;379129]Honestly Considering the veterans are mostly made up of people From Recent shows I would be okay with them winning. All I would ask For is Johnny Backpack and CT to get Eliminated From the show and I Would be okay with the Veterans winning.[/QUOTE]
Take out CT name and im with u
[QUOTE=jojorules;379127]Why do you say that? what's so unbalanced? Very few people thought the teams were unbalanced before the eliminations came out...They may not have been happy with the vets chosen but they didn't think it was unfair..The vets are just winning and gelling better it's only been 3 eliminations so far, who knows what can happen[/QUOTE]
People were already saying it was unbalanced when the cast came out. We just thought we'd be seeing the weak rookies go first, not the strong ones.
[QUOTE=proceed;379136]People were already saying it was unbalanced when the cast came out.[/QUOTE]
I disagree there was 50 pages of talk back and forth about how nia would dominate for the girls and the final rookie guy squad would put up a fight and this squad would be zach/frank/dustin/nia/nany..No one said the vets were extremely stacked in comparison. A lot of people said that the vets shoudl have been more stacked with the likes of darrell or derrick k..Maybe a small majority did but it wasn't posted much if at all. I actually thought the vet guys were way better, but who knows in a team game what can happen
[QUOTE=erodd;379132]Only person that eliminates CT is himself[/QUOTE]
And that's what I'm hoping to happen.
Oh and Brad Eliminated him. Oh and Johnny/Tyler did Too(But I probably shouldn't say that because Adam ****ed that one up for him).
[QUOTE=jojorules;379130]It's easy to say now that the eliminations are coming out, i'd liek to have seen you say that before they started that's all..Also no i saw complaints that some people weren't asked, but not saying it was ungodly unfair so i disagree ...
I am sure you thought(as did i and a lot of people) frank and dustin would at least compete in the end and give them a run, but they are gone already, no one expected that[/QUOTE]
Why do you think fans were complaining about some people not being on over Devyn, Jasmine, Emilee, Eric etc.? Because they were weak on their previous challenges and that the rookies side looked like a chump team.
I never gave a real opinion on how the rookies would perform and neither have I said they could give the Vets a run. I just knew the female sides was weak (even though I like them personally) and thought they would see eliminations a lot but Dustin/Frank/Nia being eliminated over others on that team never crossed my mind.
It's too early but I just hope things don't turn out like it did in past challenges.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;379138]And that's what I'm hoping to happen.
Oh and Brad Eliminated him. Oh and Johnny/Tyler did Too(But I probably shouldn't say that because Adam ****ed that one up for him).[/QUOTE]
CT killed Brad lost on bs and choochoo'd over Johnny and Tyler, Adam just sucked
Wait Easy is already gone ?? I must have missed this if its true, and for everyone saying the rookies are in trouble, we have no idea how the rookies are even performing. a team of 3-4 strong people in the final could be a blessing too.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;379139]Why do you think fans were complaining about some people not being on over Devyn, Jasmine, Emilee, LaToya, Eric etc.? Because they were weak on their previous challenges and that the rookies side looked like a chump team.
I never gave a real opinion on how the rookies would perform and neither have I said they could give the Vets a run. I just knew the female sides was weak (even though I like them personally) and thought they would see eliminations a lot but Dustin/Frank/Nia being eliminated over others on that team never crossed my mind.
It's too early but I just hope things don't turn out like it did in past challenges.[/QUOTE]
I see what you mean at the last paragraph, but you realize devyn/latoya and jasmine/eric are on different teams so that woudl be an even amount of bad players in that example defeating that argument. But anyway i don't wnat to argue about it but just saying it's easy to see the results and say it was rigged or unbalanced. If anything when the cast was posted i said it seemed unbalanced and that if they added darrell it woudlnt be fair the vets would roll over the rookies but i always hope it will be competitive..Id love to see ct win again and leroy win, other than that i don't care on the vets really
[QUOTE=erodd;379140]CT killed Brad lost on bs and choochoo'd over Johnny and Tyler, Adam just sucked[/QUOTE]
Adam didn't suck, Adam cut a deal which is even worse. ******* should stay away from challenges forever.
[QUOTE=JustinS76;379143]Adam didn't suck, Adam cut a deal which is even worse. ******* should stay away from challenges forever.[/QUOTE]
And He probably didn't even see a dime of whatever they promised him too.
[QUOTE=JustinS76;379143]Adam didn't suck, Adam cut a deal which is even worse. ******* should stay away from challenges forever.[/QUOTE]
That's a it much don't you think?
[QUOTE=JustinS76;379143]Adam didn't suck, Adam cut a deal which is even worse. ******* should stay away from challenges forever.[/QUOTE]
That's a it much don't you think?
[QUOTE=JustinS76;379141]Wait Easy is already gone ?? I must have missed this if its true, and for everyone saying the rookies are in trouble, we have no idea how the rookies are even performing. a team of 3-4 strong people in the final could be a blessing too.[/QUOTE]
Easy was never on, imo. All signs point to him never leaving for this challenge. The fact that we have no even seemingly solid information makes me think Bunim/Murray is intentionally leaking misinformation to throw us off. They were really upset about the whole show basically being leaked last season, so it wouldn't surprise me.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;379138]And that's what I'm hoping to happen.
[B]Oh and Brad Eliminated him.[/B] Oh and Johnny/Tyler did Too(But I probably shouldn't say that because Adam ****ed that one up for him).[/QUOTE]
"Only person that eliminates CT is himself"
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;379146]That's a it much don't you think?[/QUOTE]
Cutting a deal and betraying your partner in a competition? That equals a ******* in my book.I have no need for people to go on this show if they're not there to win.
[QUOTE=hannamez8;379150]Are there any proof that Adam did make any deals?[/QUOTE]
Nope, none whatsoever. Keep in mind that CT also thought he had a plot to try and make CT punch him and go home as part of a deal on Duel 2. Who volunteers to get punched in the face for a deal? He thought the same thing with Adam sabotaging him on Rivals, because he simply has never trusted Adam. That's been the root of almost all of their problems.
[QUOTE=hannamez8;379150]Are there any proof that Adam did make any deals?[/QUOTE]
It's all he said she said. I was told from a very reliable person who was involved it's true, but I won't name drop so again this basically is meaningless.
CT was asked in an interview and he said something like it's in the past and that he and Adam have repaired things between them so it doesnt matter
[QUOTE=jojorules;379142]I see what you mean at the last paragraph, but you realize devyn/latoya and jasmine/eric are on different teams so that woudl be an even amount of bad players in that example defeating that argument. But anyway i don't wnat to argue about it but just saying it's easy to see the results and say it was rigged or unbalanced. If anything when the cast was posted i said it seemed unbalanced and that if they added darrell it woudlnt be fair the vets would roll over the rookies but i always hope it will be competitive..Id love to see ct win again and leroy win, other than that i don't care on the vets really[/QUOTE]
People complain about EZ but I personally think he could be much more of an asset on a team on certain challenges than a Devyn. He can lift things, carry people, be used as a shield/ladder and I even once said don't be surprised if he eliminated half the rookie guys (obv. this isn't the case now). He's just useless for the final. With all that said, even with an EZ and Jasmine on your team IMO it's still better than people that have never played the game before or people that have but sucked.
But yeah, I guess we'll end it here.
[QUOTE=jojorules;379120]I think ct grew a fanbase for being dominant in challenges but still never winning. If he won every time an was dominant he probably would be popular, but not as much. But that's what makes it a good show, knowing that the individually best player doesn't guarantee a win.. Just my thoughts. I think fans overall like the guys who fail first than overcome it to win rather than the ones who win every time and it's no contest or they skate by overtime by politics never really fighting for a win.
.[B]I think zach isn't as liked as others even though he already has a win because he got it right away it's like you never really respect it as much if you get it asap, frank too. Also becuase their first challenge was a softball compared to the old school casts and what it took to win[/B][/QUOTE]
nah...I think the reason he isn't as liked is because he has no personality from what I've seen of him on my screen. Just my observation though.
[QUOTE=McFly High;379163]nah...I think the reason he isn't as liked is because he has no personality from what I've seen of him on my screen. Just my observation though.[/QUOTE]
He actually seems pretty chill and even funny. Once you separate him from Frank, he's a pretty cool guy.
Funny how people are saying how the teams are unbalanced. There were so many posts saying the guy rookies had the edge over the vet guys... yet two rookie guys are back home already. Like I said earlier, every challenge is different. And who says Nia and Jemmye are strong? Let's see what they can do first then judge. Well, we saw what Jemmye could do. Which still makes me wonder why people think she's a strong girl. But Nia? Why is she a shock? Because y'all hyped her up? And Frank and Dustin have never competed in eliminations against seasoned vets. Don't know why they have to had loss in a DQ, or fluky elimination. They can easily be beat fair and square in physically grueling eliminations against all the vet guys imo.
[QUOTE=TeamLandon;379172]Funny how people are saying how the teams are unbalanced. There were so many posts saying the guy rookies had the edge over the vet guys... yet two rookie guys are back home already. Like I said earlier, every challenge is different. And who says Nia and Jemmye are strong? Let's see what they can do first then judge. Well, we saw what Jemmye could do. Which still makes me wonder why people think she's a strong girl. But Nia? Why is she a shock? Because y'all hyped her up? And Frank and Dustin have never competed in eliminations against seasoned vets. Don't know why they have to had loss in a DQ, or fluky elimination. They can easily be beat fair and square in physically grueling eliminations against all the vet guys imo.[/QUOTE]
These four are a shocker because one would initially think Devyn, Latoya, Swift and Johnny B would be the ones to go. But we have to see the rules and politics/drama first.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;379174]These four are a shocker because one would initially think Devyn, Latoya, Swift and Johnny B would be the ones to go. But we have to see the rules and politics/drama first.[/QUOTE]
And we have yet to see what the format is. If it's a Ruins or Gauntlet then the politics on the rookies side doesn't matter. If the vets feel confident about going against Frank, Dustin, or Nia, they can call them out and there's nothing the rooks can do about it.
[QUOTE=TeamLandon;379172]Funny how people are saying how the teams are unbalanced. There were so many posts saying the guy rookies had the edge over the vet guys... yet two rookie guys are back home already. Like I said earlier, every challenge is different. And who says Nia and Jemmye are strong? Let's see what they can do first then judge. Well, we saw what Jemmye could do. Which still makes me wonder why people think she's a strong girl. But Nia? Why is she a shock? Because y'all hyped her up? And Frank and Dustin have never competed in eliminations against seasoned vets. Don't know why they have to had loss in a DQ, or fluky elimination. They can easily be beat fair and square in physically grueling eliminations against all the vet guys imo.[/QUOTE]
No, people were saying the guys side is much more balanced. Has anyone said Jemmye's strong, like anyone? I did think she'd last wronger since Devyn and Toya are most likely worse. Given the sprots she played, there was nothing wrong with hyping Nia up a bit, besides we have no idea who she faced, in what kind of elimination round, etc. They definitely could be, but let's not act like these new kids are scrubs comapred to the vets when Frank outperformed Johnny himself last season, along with a few vets.
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