[QUOTE=infamous;443817][B]I have a strong feeling no one here on these boards was or is an athlete.[/B] I also have a feeling I'm the only one on these boards who does not have this mystical crystal ball that has the answers to al the "what if's" "what could" "what should" and "what would" questions that are raised.
Your bias makes it a tad difficult to carry a discussion without face palming.[/QUOTE]
Please dont hate me, I'm really not trying to argue with you... especially because I'm not sure what really qualifies as an athlete. I think there are quite a few people on these boards who are/were into athletics... whether it be hockey, swimming, or other sports. But again, you probably mean like pro athlete?
God is spelled with capitol G and there is only one God. And why you think people treated him like that in rivals because everybody knew CT was the best one there. Why did they keep Leroy for so long? because Kenny, Evan, and Johnny are better competitors. Know before you say well Leroy had Micheal well CT had Adamwho is mediocre and they were still crazy to get rid of CT.
So who is better? We all know CT is better then Bananas, Leroy cant perform in challenges and lost to CT, Zack cant perform in finals, CT is confirmed to be the best overall competitor by multiple cast members.
[QUOTE=infamous;443817]I have a strong feeling no one here on these boards was or is an athlete. I also have a feeling I'm the only one on these boards who does not have this mystical crystal ball that has the answers to al the "what if's" "what could" "what should" and "what would" questions that are raised.
Your bias makes it a tad difficult to carry a discussion without face palming.[/QUOTE]
CT is better then Leroy in everything its just a fact. I like Leroy but he's no CT
[QUOTE=King Bananas;444037][B]God is spelled with capitol G and there is only one God[/B]. And why you think people treated him like that in rivals because everybody knew CT was the best one there. Why did they keep Leroy for so long? because Kenny, Evan, and Johnny are better competitors. Know before you say well Leroy had Micheal well CT had Adamwho is mediocre and they were still crazy to get rid of CT.[/QUOTE]
There is NO God. This show proves it on a daily basis.
[QUOTE=JamieFire;443821]Please dont hate me, I'm really not trying to argue with you... especially because I'm not sure what really qualifies as an athlete. I think there are quite a few people on these boards who are/were into athletics... whether it be hockey, swimming, or other sports. But again, you probably mean like pro athlete?[/QUOTE]
Nope, just an athlete in general.
[QUOTE=King Bananas;444037]God is spelled with capitol G and there is only one God. And why you think people treated him like that in rivals because everybody knew CT was the best one there. Why did they keep Leroy for so long? because Kenny, Evan, and Johnny are better competitors. Know before you say well Leroy had Micheal well CT had Adamwho is mediocre and they were still crazy to get rid of CT.[/QUOTE]
I'm not quite sure the point you're trying to make is clear. So I'll withhold a response to that.
Though, I don't disagree that Bananas was intimidated because he got destroyed on Cutthroat.
[QUOTE=King Bananas;444039]So who is better? We all know CT is better then Bananas, Leroy cant perform in challenges and lost to CT, Zack cant perform in finals, CT is confirmed to be the best overall competitor by multiple cast members.[/QUOTE]
CT being "better" than Bananas is debatable. Leroy has won a mission before, so that's out the window. Him losing to CT is a non-factor. And Zack has won a final... so i'm not sure what you're saying there either.
CT, as I've said before, is not the best competitor. It's of no concern to lump him up with the top tier of competitors. But claiming he's the best without any evidence other than people's opinions and your opinion is rather moot.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;444045]CT is better then Leroy in everything its just a fact. I like Leroy but he's no CT[/QUOTE]
10/10 Troll.
Are you stupid what do you mean no evidence. In the both seasons of the inferno CT got the most life savors because he was obviously the best competitor i his team. In the duel Even and Wes tried to get rid of CT because they admitted themselves CT was the best one their. In cutthroat Ct appeared in the show for 5 minutes and that was the best part of the season. In rivals don't even get me started how much jek and Wes feared CT. In exes CT and Diem was the second best team after Bananas and Camila. In rivals 2 he won and Bananas said he deserved it and in free agents he was time for most males win. I gave you solid evidence know besides Bananas winning 5 challenges tell me what has he done as a competitor to be better then CT? What has Zack done to be better then Ct and Zack did say that Ct is a beast and a freak of nature and what has Leroy done that is so impressive besides underperform. Excuse my grammar but I am not trying to type perfectly.
My point is why did Leroy make the finals in rivals? Leroy made the finals because JEK knew he was no competition and Leroy said himself that Mike performed Better then him in the finals. Why did JEK want to get rid of Ct? Because and I quote from Wes"It is what it is, CT is the best one here."
[QUOTE=King Bananas;445527]Are you stupid what do you mean no evidence. In the both seasons of the inferno CT got the most life savors because he was obviously the best competitor i his team. In the duel Even and Wes tried to get rid of CT because they admitted themselves CT was the best one their. In cutthroat Ct appeared in the show for 5 minutes and that was the best part of the season. In rivals don't even get me started how much jek and Wes feared CT. In exes CT and Diem was the second best team after Bananas and Camila. In rivals 2 he won and Bananas said he deserved it and in free agents he was time for most males win. I gave you solid evidence know besides Bananas winning 5 challenges tell me what has he done as a competitor to be better then CT? What has Zack done to be better then Ct and Zack did say that Ct is a beast and a freak of nature and what has Leroy done that is so impressive besides underperform. Excuse my grammar but I am not trying to type perfectly.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=King Bananas;445530]My point is why did Leroy make the finals in rivals? Leroy made the finals because JEK knew he was no competition and Leroy said himself that Mike performed Better then him in the finals. Why did JEK want to get rid of Ct? Because and I quote from Wes"It is what it is, CT is the best one here."[/QUOTE]
No, I'm not stupid. The only assertions I've made a stance on are:
1. CT is not the best competitor to be on a Challenge.
2. Leroy would have a better chance against CT at Balls In.
As previously stated, Leroy was rather spot on in his berating of Tyler. CT isn't a God. I've never mentioned Bananas or Zack being better than CT.
With that said, CT is a known loose cannon (or at least was) and Rivals immediately followed Cutthroat where Bananas became backpack. His fear was rather warranted.
That aside, Leroy never said Mike performed better than him in the finals. He explained that on television, they made it seem like Mike was the reason they quit (which he was), but the fact that Leroy himself wanted to quit long before him, but still performed anyways.
I think you should relax on your bias. If he were the best, he wouldn't have lost a couple of eliminations that he was more than capable of winning and wouldn't have got himself booted off of two challenges.
Hold up, hold up, hold up. What I am saying is that CT is the best overall competitor. CT is the strongest guy in the house confirmed by multiple cast members, fast, feared, and smart. I already gave evidence sating why Ct is the best therefore is not bias. As you could se with my username I am a Bananas fan but CT is just better. Leroy did say himself that Miked performed better and that he was the one that wanted to quit and no Leroy would of not had a better chance in balls in the climbing the wall was his best bet. You say I am bing biased but I gave you more then enough evidence so give me evidence on what has Leroy done that you could say such a thing.
[QUOTE=King Bananas;446222]Hold up, hold up, hold up. What I am saying is that CT is the best overall competitor. CT is the strongest guy in the house confirmed by multiple cast members, fast, feared, and smart. I already gave evidence sating why Ct is the best therefore is not bias. As you could se with my username I am a Bananas fan but CT is just better. Leroy did say himself that Miked performed better and that he was the one that wanted to quit and no Leroy would of not had a better chance in balls in the climbing the wall was his best bet. You say I am bing biased but I gave you more then enough evidence so give me evidence on what has Leroy done that you could say such a thing.[/QUOTE]
Not smart enough (or mentally quick enough) to beat Bananas on Free Agents.
The fact remains that Leroy performed until Mike opted out which Leroy was perfectly OK with, it's not for a lack of effort or "gassing out" from either of them.
You haven't given me anything other than other people's opinions.
Watch Leroy vs. Cohutta in Balls In. Leroy knew the proper approach to performing efficiently in Balls In. Whereas if we exercise our 20/20 hindsight, CT had a plan for the wall, Leroy did not (or at least not one that was as efficient if we weren't shown anything), which is why Leroy got smoked.
Because Leroy had the proper method of performing in Balls In, he would have a [b]better chance[/b] vs. CT in Balls In.
This does not mean he would beat CT nor does it mean he would lose, simply that his odds would be increased as he'd be more prepared with certain factors relevant to the elimination.
Also, don't use the "I'm not bias because I have "x" username" ... It's as if someone were to say "I'm not racist towards black people because I dated a "black" person" It does not proof the initial claim.
Listen buddy your ignorance blinds you from facts. CT has won a elimination involving a puzzles. CT has won a challenge ver Bananas where he figured out the puzzle. Yes I have given you other peoples opinion but I have also given you FACTS on how Ct has performed over the seasons but since you missed it I would tell you it again. In his 2 inferno seasons he won the most life savors. In the duel won missions and Evan and Wes tried to get rid of Ct because they were scared. In cutthroat Ct appeared for 5 minutes and that is what that season is remembered for. In rivals he won missions, a elimination, lost because of Adam, and the mob tried to get rid of him because he was the biggest competition. In exes won 3 missions and was the second best overall team with Diem. In rivals 2 he won. In free agents smoked Leroy in elimination and was tied for most male wins. And Leroy confirmed himself that he was the one that wanted to quit on rivals. Know I have proven that I am not making bias decisions and I am giving you facts unlike yourself that has not stated one impressive thing Leroy has done.
[QUOTE=King Bananas;448806]Listen buddy your ignorance blinds you from facts. CT has won a elimination involving a puzzles. CT has won a challenge ver Bananas where he figured out the puzzle. Yes I have given you other peoples opinion but I have also given you FACTS on how Ct has performed over the seasons but since you missed it I would tell you it again. In his 2 inferno seasons he won the most life savors. In the duel won missions and Evan and Wes tried to get rid of Ct because they were scared. In cutthroat Ct appeared for 5 minutes and that is what that season is remembered for. In rivals he won missions, a elimination, lost because of Adam, and the mob tried to get rid of him because he was the biggest competition. In exes won 3 missions and was the second best overall team with Diem. In rivals 2 he won. In free agents smoked Leroy in elimination and was tied for most male wins. And Leroy confirmed himself that he was the one that wanted to quit on rivals. Know I have proven that I am not making bias decisions and I am giving you facts unlike yourself that has not stated one impressive thing Leroy has done.[/QUOTE]
You know, normally, this would be wear I would call you a mean name because I don't think you get it. Instead, I'll just be patient and reiterate what I've said as well.
CT's challenge history is great, even impressive depending how you feel about it. That does not mean he is the best competitor.
Wes and Evan tried to get rid of CT and who went home? And who won the season? Imagine that. Being "scared" seemed to work in Wes' favor.
Cutthroat was a decent. If the season is remembered for CT returning then that asserts that he's a fan favorite, not the "best" competitor. Though he did embarrass Bananas which was very amusing to watch.
Can't give him credit for winning missions in Rivals 1 and then blame Adam for their loss in the elimination. (It was Adam's fault) but at the same time, Adam was there when they were winning too. They didn't win when it counted.
His exes 2 performance was good, yes.
And yes, Rivals 2 was won because, imagine this, CT was in politically with all the right people, something Johnny Bananas always seemed to have on the seasons he won in the past.
Yes, his strategy on the wall (punching multiple holes at the start) was far superior to Leroy's and it showed in the performance.
Leroy said he wanted to quit first. There's no need to misquote him. Mike didn't want to continue and Leroy was already down to quit, fact of the matter is, he still performed until it was a mutual team agreement.
I don't need to state anything impressive that Leroy has done, seeing as I'm not making any claims that Leroy is an "impressive" competitor.
My two assertions as previously stated:
1. CT is not the best competitor (as it's debatable, and there are no objective criteria)
2. Leroy would have had a better chance at Balls In (exercising our 20/20 hindsight.)
You'll figure it out eventually.
You said I was making biased decisions and that is why I wrote down CTs career explaining why he is the best. So in your opinion who is the best and what have they done that makes you think they are the best and why do you say that Ct isn't the best. Ok do you think that in rivals one Adam would of one missions with somebody else as his partner no that duo won because of CT. Ok Ct got sent home on the duel but he was clearly winning and he lost by dq.
I just want to get the air cleared because all you are saying is CT is not the best so who do you think is and provide evidence.
[QUOTE=King Bananas;449468]You said I was making biased decisions and that is why I wrote down CTs career explaining why he is the best. So in your opinion who is the best and what have they done that makes you think they are the best and why do you say that Ct isn't the best. Ok do you think that in rivals one Adam would of one missions with somebody else as his partner no that duo won because of CT. Ok Ct got sent home on the duel but he was clearly winning and he lost by dq.
I just want to get the air cleared because all you are saying is CT is not the best so who do you think is and provide evidence.[/QUOTE]
SCREW YOU KING BANANAS FOR HATING!! Jk all love fam
[QUOTE=King Bananas;449468]You said I was making biased decisions and that is why I wrote down CTs career explaining why he is the best. So in your opinion who is the best and what have they done that makes you think they are the best and why do you say that Ct isn't the best. Ok do you think that in rivals one Adam would of one missions with somebody else as his partner no that duo won because of CT. Ok Ct got sent home on the duel but he was clearly winning and he lost by dq.
I just want to get the air cleared because all you are saying is CT is not the best so who do you think is and provide evidence.[/QUOTE]
I believe there are several people with a comparable challenge history to CT that are in the same tier of competitor as CT. The fact that it's debatable is why I claim that CT is not the "best", because that's an absolute.
I don't have a crystal ball so I cannot tell you if Adam would have won a mission with someone else as his partner. That said, if Adam refused to participate in a challenge, than the team would not have won. Both people were necessary for the pair to win.
CT lost "Push Me" because he broke the rules, rules that were broken less than a week ago by the women. So it's not as if the rules weren't clear and that the same mishap did not already happen. It's his fault he lost. That sort of incompetence I won't make excuses for.
And just to reiterate, I don't believe there is a best challenger.
King Bananas, CT is not the overall best competitor, to be the best overall u got to perform in puzzles and phisical eliminations, missions and finals, Johnny Bananas is weaker than CT in a 1 on 1 elimination phisical, but he is stronger overall, i saw your posts about facts, well the fact is that Johnny has won not 3, not 4 but 5 Challenges inclunding 3 where CT was , the 2 of them probably have the same amount of challenges and still johnny won 5 and he only won 1, to be the best overall also means to be smart enough to get people behind you.
Also Landon is a better competitor than CT, too bad he didnt made a life out of challenges like some vets , Landon by now if he had the same amount of challenges made , could probably have the same amount or close to what Jonhnny has.
Leror basically proved on Exes 2 that he isn't just good at physical eliminations. he beasted on that log elimination. this discussion was pretty good to read.
What a daddy, I'm jealous of Nia, if Leroy wouldn't be in johnny's *** the whole time, he would be a fan favorite for not only the casuals but for vevmo too and
King Bananas, CT is not the overall best competitor, to be the best overall u got to perform in puzzles and phisical eliminations, missions and finals, Johnny Bananas is weaker than CT in a 1 on 1 elimination phisical, but he is stronger overall, i saw your posts about facts, well the fact is that Johnny has won not 3, not 4 but 5 Challenges inclunding 3 where CT was , the 2 of them probably have the same amount of challenges and still johnny won 5 and he only won 1, to be the best overall also means to be smart enough to get people behind you.
Also Landon is a better competitor than CT, too bad he didnt made a life out of challenges like some vets , Landon by now if he had the same amount of challenges made , could probably have the same amount or close to what Jonhnny has.
Leror basically proved on Exes 2 that he isn't just good at physical eliminations. he beasted on that log elimination. this discussion was pretty good to read.
Does anyone know why Leroy deleted all his social media accounts?
Just a hunce but random strangers stalking his social media and then noticing he deleted them probably doesn't help.
What a daddy, I'm jealous of Nia, if Leroy wouldn't be in johnny's *** the whole time, he would be a fan favorite for not only the casuals but for vevmo too and
He doesn't really care for it
Hilarious seeing all the people that use to root for Leroy on the first page. Only boncat has stayed a fan. I admit I use to like Leroy a lot too.
I love Leroy.
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