[QUOTE=FishHooks;297977]What did she do exactly? I missed the episode and probably won't make an effort to see it.[/QUOTE]
During those recaps on MTV.com, the topic of Camila loving Johnny so much came up and she said something like "Did Johnny take Camila's virginity?" with the inflection that that's what she believes is the case and then said "Should I have not said that?" as everyone laughed that she'd blurt something like that out.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;297980]During those recaps on MTV.com, the topic of Camila loving Johnny so much came up and she said something like "Did Johnny take Camila's virginity?" with the inflection that that's what she believes is the case and then said "Should I have not said that?" as everyone laughed that she'd blurt something like that out.[/QUOTE]
I can see why she felt the need to throw chairs around now..
[QUOTE=eggs78;297974] She used [B]Townie's[/B] foot in the mouth phrase: [/QUOTE]
Yeah but that was a joke right? I dont see the big deal. Unless its true then omg Camila. And I told you guys she had foot in mouth disease at least she admits it haha, acknowledgment is the first step.
Edit: Yeah....I just saw it, she did look like she was seriously asking, lmao my god girl, she really needs to learn when to keep her mouth shut, now that unlike the CT thing was NOT "public knowledge" lol. The way they reacted didnt help, Paula could just have said no thats silly and is not true but since they all went awkward that makes me think it might be true.
[QUOTE=Camille;297252]Amen. Why are people even caring? *yawn*
Anyway, Abram seems so affectionate with Cara Maria on the show. I think it's cute even if he does creep me out a bit. I knew Cara claiming she was done for good was crap. She likes Abram's drama and intensity and weirdness.
When I first saw Cara Maria on Fresh Meat 2, I thought she would be the strongest girl there. I thought her and Laurel were far above the other females there. Her and Darrell went down and she got so emotional, but I still thought athletically she would be a beast on these things in future challenges due to how well she did in the preliminary Fresh Meat 2 activities. I really think Cara Maria constantly showing how scared she is before every challenge makes her look weak. That and she's not a good swimmer and there have been so many water challenges.[/QUOTE]
I do think she is one of the strongest girls. Her, Laurel, Emily, Camila, and Kelly Anne are my top 5 top females as of late. And Rachel but I'm not too sure if she has a chance being the only dual-girl team. (edit: forgot about Ev of course, regardless CM is up there)
I think she takes the challenges really seriously and hates to fail and face the possibility of going home (kind of like Sarah).
On another note, girl needs to take some swimming lessons haha. These challenges are so water-based now it's almost unbearable. Switching it up would be nice
I really want to like her because of her life style and great the way she comunicate with other people but that whole thing with her and Abe became really annoying. She was like 'Im done with him, he cheated with other girls and blah blah blah' and here we go again somone tagged Abram on facebook in picture where they are sitting in Anti-Valentine's party and holding hands. AGAIN.
It‘s her life, her decisions and her choises. We get that. It doesn‘t metter in what do you believe or what are you doing with your life because it is you life. But all that tweeting how she hates him and then fall in love again (Facebook, twitter, formspring) really changed my opinion about Cara Maria. It feels like she is doing all what she can just to get attention.
Talking about her perform in BOTEX was pretty disappointed. I feel bad for Abe.
[QUOTE=Blue123;298136]Yeah but that was a joke right? I dont see the big deal. Unless its true then omg Camila. And I told you guys she had foot in mouth disease at least she admits it haha, acknowledgment is the first step.
Edit: Yeah....I just saw it, she did look like she was seriously asking, lmao my god girl, she really needs to learn when to keep her mouth shut, now that unlike the CT thing was NOT "public knowledge" lol. The way they reacted didnt help, Paula could just have said no thats silly and is not true but since they all went awkward that makes me think it might be true.[/QUOTE]
For me, it's more than just keeping her mouth shut. What planet was she raised in to think that what she revealed about Camilla was okay? Even an absolute airhead would know better. To me, it shows a lack of common decency/good manners/proper etiquette.
I genuinely think something is just wrong with her. She may be manic. I've been around a few in my day and she definitely exhibits the signs. Nice girl but still ....
[QUOTE=eggs78;298142]For me, it's more than just keeping her mouth shut. What planet was she raised in to think that what she revealed about Camilla was okay? Even an absolute airhead would know better. To me, it shows a lack of common decency/good manners/proper etiquette.[/QUOTE]
I still say that it was an assumption she made that ended up being true and known by some people.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;298157]I still say that it was an assumption she made that ended up being true and known by some people.[/QUOTE]
Maybe it's just me but you don't talk about someone's virginity on camera. Who knows what Camila told people? Imagine explaining that to your friends and family.
Even Cara Maria's public apology seems off to me. She seems more concerned about her image and how this is going to affect her in future challenges. She doesn't seem to care about the ramifications her revelations might have on other people's private lives. Based on Camila's tweets, she hasn't issued any private apologies.
[QUOTE]Who knows what Camila told people? Imagine explaining that to your friends and family.[/QUOTE]Perhaps if she just acted like a normal person, or even if perhaps if she had exercised better judgement about who she was giving it up to, this would all be moot.
If I were Camilla, I would be more concerned explaining to my friends and family why I constantly act like I have a serious drinking problem and cannot control myself.
I'm not a big fan of Cara Maria's convenient loose lips, but I'm sorry, if these people are so concerned about secrets and lies, here is a tip-- DON'T keep secrets and DON'T lie if you are going to be a fame***** and are worried about what may or may not creep into your personal life. I know people, myself included, who have turned down reality television offers or tidbits or applications because it's not worth the scrutiny. They obviously did, so they need to accept that their life goes up for grabs and is at the mercy of production and castmates once you sign the contract.
I really cannot fault someone for either being honest or asking an honest question when so much else associated with the show and its cast is so contrived and controlled, teetering on being faked IMO. That sort of stuff goes on anytime there is a group of friends talking about other friends. Questions get asked; info gets out. People have sex with cameras in the room--I really doubt discussing it is that taboo amongst them.
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;298184]I'm actually happy that somebody had the balls to call the Johnny/Camilla situation out! Everyone else is scared ****less to say anything at all![/QUOTE]
Lol that wasnt really calling out Johnny/Camilla she didnt ask did Johnny cheat on his gf? She asked an inappropriate question. Discussing someone's virginity isnt ballsy, that's just nosy.
[QUOTE=Blue123;298186]Lol that wasnt really calling out Johnny/Camilla she didnt ask did Johnny cheat on his gf? She asked an inappropriate question. Discussing someone's virginity isnt ballsy, that's just nosy.[/QUOTE]
The topic and question was "Why is Camila so attached to Johnny." If that's the explanation for why she was acting all crazy, then I don't see the problem is throwing out the suggestion. It's not as if they just talked about Camila or Johnny as people or as a couple and she asked the question, she asked that since it could explain Camila's actions.
As absolutely intrusive and rude as the questions Chet asked his cast mates on RW Brooklyn regarding their sex lives, I really don't see this question is even being in the same ballpark of inappropriateness.
[QUOTE=Blue123;298186]Lol that wasnt really calling out Johnny/Camilla she didnt ask did Johnny cheat on his gf? She asked an inappropriate question. Discussing someone's virginity isnt ballsy, that's just nosy.[/QUOTE]
It certainly was calling the situation out, even if she didn't intend for it to be. If you're going to bang someone who has a girlfriend ON A TELEVISION SHOW, then isn't at all inappropriate to discuss it.
Aren't the Exes after show chats awkward enough without the additional dynamic of a person (CM) who wants the spotlight so badly yet IMO has such a predictable, limited repertoire of tricks.
It seems to me that CM aspires fame but the plan is to do it by proxy, by stealing established credibility from other people who have what she lacks i.e. courage-Abram, strength-Laurel, stamina-Emily... persona-Johnny Dep, artistry-Tim Burton.... Even CM's claim of uniqueness is nothing more than a constant parade of what she's copied from other people who [I][B]are[/B][/I] truly, artistic and unique. I won't even talk about the fake dreads and feathers held in by clips, product references and other numerous photo-ops CM constantly creates for herself then posts as if these are random, [I][B]let's face it the girl would go to the opening of an envelope if she thought someone would take a pic of her and post it somewhere[/B][/I].
CM has landed onto an MTV show (after several refusals according to her) and she is riding this reality train further by pimping her relationship with Abe ...who thinks he's the shi* (pun intended). CM tweets her own intimate details of relationship, including details of their (she and Abe) creepy couple prowling habits for public consumption via both her facebook and twitter.
Abe even broke up with her on film, but said to the viewers that CM wouldn't realize it until she watched the film...yes CM was the one shooting the film.
It is for those reasons I am not surprised that CM mistakenly (according to her) repeated info she was somehow privy to ...and appears that the other cast members had some knowledge of the subject but they all wisely stayed away from it. IMO she will live to regret that indiscretion because the Challenge circuit circle is an unforgiving bunch of people who are offscreen minglers. Also because gossip, such as she is pushing is further proof the gossip lacks wit, intelligence, creativity, etc.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;298187]The topic and question was "Why is Camila so attached to Johnny." If that's the explanation for why she was acting all crazy, then I don't see the problem is throwing out the suggestion. It's not as if they just talked about Camila or Johnny as people or as a couple and she asked the question, she asked that since it could explain Camila's actions.[/QUOTE]
To me it seemed more like she was thinking it and was stupid enough to blurt it out. The rest of the cast's reaction was enough to tell you it was inappropriate. You dont talk about people's virginity that private and embarrassing to the person, yes we know they probably had sex but we dont know if she lost her virginity to him, most girls dont talk about their 1st time openly. Quit defending the blabber mouth, I'm not going to be like others on here and say she's horrible and mental but I will say she does have an obvious problem with not being able to think before speaking and she knows it too. But I think she learned her lesson. Hopefully.
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;298190]It certainly was calling the situation out, even if she didn't intend for it to be. If you're going to bang someone who has a girlfriend ON A TELEVISION SHOW, then isn't at all inappropriate to discuss it.[/QUOTE]
What does Johnny's gf have to do with Camilla's virginity? We all know he banged her while he was in a relationship we did not know it was her 1st time and Camilla pretty much called Johnny out last week when she yelled cheater! That was no secret.
CM does seem to like attention, but as I have said before, she seems to be the only one who really makes an effort to interact with fans via her formspring (at least until recently) and twitter in any meaningful way that doesn't always make her look like she is trying to polish her own apple. I am not a fan of many of the people on the Challenges, but I at least recognize that there is some effort by her to be open that we don't see in others which translates to me as meaning she doesn't look at fans as peons.
[QUOTE=BellaLissa;298198]Aren't the Exes after show chats awkward enough without the additional dynamic of a person (CM) who wants the spotlight so badly yet IMO has such a predictable, limited repertoire of tricks.
It seems to me that CM aspires fame but the plan is to do it by proxy, by stealing established credibility from other people who have what she lacks i.e. courage-Abram, strength-Laurel, stamina-Emily... persona-Johnny Dep, artistry-Tim Burton.... Even CM's claim of uniqueness is nothing more than a constant parade of what she's copied from other people who [I][B]are[/B][/I] truly, artistic and unique. I won't even talk about the fake dreads and feathers held in by clips, product references and other numerous photo-ops CM constantly creates for herself then posts as if these are random, [I][B]let's face it the girl would go to the opening of an envelope if she thought someone would take a pic of her and post it somewhere[/B][/I].
CM has landed onto an MTV show (after several refusals according to her) and she is riding this reality train further by pimping her relationship with Abe ...who thinks he's the shi* (pun intended). CM tweets her own intimate details of relationship, including details of their (she and Abe) creepy couple prowling habits for public consumption via both her facebook and twitter.
Abe even broke up with her on film, but said to the viewers that CM wouldn't realize it until she watched the film...yes CM was the one shooting the film.
It is for those reasons I am not surprised that CM mistakenly (according to her) repeated info she was somehow privy to ...and appears that the other cast members had some knowledge of the subject but they all wisely stayed away from it. IMO she will live to regret that indiscretion because the Challenge circuit circle is an unforgiving bunch of people who are offscreen minglers. Also because gossip, such as she is pushing is further proof the gossip lacks wit, intelligence, creativity, etc.[/QUOTE]
Wow. This is exactly how I feel about her as well. Bravo.
[QUOTE=FishHooks;298222]CM does seem to like attention, but as I have said before, she seems to be the only one who really makes an effort to interact with fans via her formspring (at least until recently) and twitter in any meaningful way that doesn't always make her look like she is trying to polish her own apple. I am not a fan of many of the people on the Challenges, but I at least recognize that there is some effort by her to be open that we don't see in others which translates to me as meaning she doesn't look at fans as peons.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this, that's what I do like about her, not many other cast members answer fan questions so I give her props on that, she even answers the random questions lol Ev seemed to have given up after a few weeks. And I appreciate the Ustreams her and Leroy used to do. A lot of them dont even talk to people on twitter or on fb. The fact that they add strangers on fb kinda shows they care about the fans, I know I wouldnt add strangers. And she does talk to the fans on fb, Wes does too sometimes so I appreciate that. Derrick's podcast is good too but a lot of the time its just annoying to listen to, they should just answer fan questions on it, I like Brandon's radio thing because people can call in, that would be cool if Derrick could include that too.
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