Winner, charismatic, drama/entertaining, household name in RTV. She fits the bill for me and idk any other women that do on BB.
I don't think she's ever been liked enough to justify that title, but that is fair.
I agree that Taylor is the one for modern BB. Janelle held that title without the win for so long. Her comp stats and memorability made her a star even while she's a loser.
I don't think Rachel ever eclipsed that, even with a win. Dani Donato was more liked up until BB22.
To me being well like is just part of the pie. Back then Rachel was hated but now she's more universally liked.
Feel overall Rachel tops the list similar to how Parv/Sandra are the queens of Survivor for their overall time on the show (winner, character, played well on returns) and not Cirie since she hasn't won.
Being queen doesn't work if people want to overthrow you. There's a reason Janelle was in conversation and brought up for years...because she resonated with people even if she couldn't win. People are even delusional enough to act like her comp game puts in her great player territory. as if she doesn't suck strategically.
Plus, Rachel's win has always been controversial so there's a lack of respect there too.
I think she's iconic but reputation plays a part and hers was never good enough to justify that. I do think this season will cause people to relook at her but historically Janelle was always "IT".
Like Nicole consistently places high but no one respects she can't fully own her fruit fly and that's always been the reason she doesn't get more flowers.
That's my thing with Janelle she was never all that great socially/strategically while Rachel has shown she has those chops this season. 22 and 14 especially knock Janelle down some pegs for me.
As someone who hasn't seen many seasons, Janelle would be the person I instantly think of. I hear her name and Taylor most often, and liked her in the season I watched.
I agree Janelle isn't a strategist . But I'm really speaking on perception overall and Janelle was highly regarded when I started the show during BB16. Funny enough strategy isn't what most take into account.
And Rachel's win has a Pandora Box sized stain on it. I do give her credit for her relationship with Porsche which is why she isn't dead last but there was a huge possibility she leaves without interference, so I've never been impressed by it.
While I think Taylor benefited from the set up of that first week, people really ignore her consistently breaking bread with people who did not like her.
She also played Monte and played the biggest part in Micheal leaving . It's not a perfect game but she deserves more credit for navigating it the way that she did.
While I think Taylor benefited from the set up of that first week, people really ignore her consistently breaking bread with people who did not like her.
She also played Monte and played the biggest part in Micheal leaving . It's not a perfect game but she deserves more credit for navigating it the way that she did.
Facts. No way things turn around and she gets to the end and wins without her social game and making people that hated her like her. Monte shit talked her the first few weeks then hooked up with her and took her to the end. Plus she won twice and her alliance won every other week so I don't see the rigging here. Also had one of the best speeches of all time.
The irony that Vince may flip to vote out Rylie but Mickey and Ava will save him, lol. They gotta have lead paint leaking through the walls this season or something. These people brains stopped working.
The irony that Vince may flip to vote out Rylie but Mickey and Ava will save him, lol. They gotta have lead paint leaking through the walls this season or something. These people brains stopped working.
Mickey and Morgan swore they wouldn't vote each other off. Mickey stole his HoH and then proceeded to nominate him. I know they've gotten close as her and Morgan have drifted but I still think she keeps Morgan. Ava will do what Rachel and Will tell her I think. If we have Vince, I think he leaves.
I hope so. But I don't fully trust Mickey or Ava. Ava's read on Riley is completely off. Will COULD get Ava to evict Rylie . But my main problem with Will since day 1 is he doesn't push a darn thing. He just says "yep" and nods with anything whoever is talking to him says. Like TRY to persuade people at least.
Mickey is funny with her allies. Idk what she'll do.
Will can literally just be like "hey Ava, we need you to vote with us. That will help me out a lot". But he gives NOTHING! Like omg. Poor Rachel with these allies.
To me being well like is just part of the pie. Back then Rachel was hated but now she's more universally liked.
Feel overall Rachel tops the list similar to how Parv/Sandra are the queens of Survivor for their overall time on the show (winner, character, played well on returns) and not Cirie since she hasn't won.
We need Jun back. Saw her season for the first time recently and loved her lol I need her no fruit flys given attitude again
Being queen doesn't work if people want to overthrow you. There's a reason Janelle was in conversation and brought up for years...because she resonated with people even if she couldn't win. People are even delusional enough to act like her comp game puts in her great player territory. as if she doesn't suck strategically.
Plus, Rachel's win has always been controversial so there's a lack of respect there too.
I think she's iconic but reputation plays a part and hers was never good enough to justify that. I do think this season will cause people to relook at her but historically Janelle was always "IT".
Like Nicole consistently places high but no one respects she can't fully own her fruit fly and that's always been the reason she doesn't get more flowers.
That's my thing with Janelle she was never all that great socially/strategically while Rachel has shown she has those chops this season. 22 and 14 especially knock Janelle down some pegs for me.
As someone who hasn't seen many seasons, Janelle would be the person I instantly think of. I hear her name and Taylor most often, and liked her in the season I watched.
I agree Janelle isn't a strategist . But I'm really speaking on perception overall and Janelle was highly regarded when I started the show during BB16. Funny enough strategy isn't what most take into account.
And Rachel's win has a Pandora Box sized stain on it. I do give her credit for her relationship with Porsche which is why she isn't dead last but there was a huge possibility she leaves without interference, so I've never been impressed by it.
Fun Fact: I met Kaila Booker like months before COVID and didn't realize it was her until hours later lmao.
Which MODERN BB win do yall think is the MOST rigged?
Cody or Jag
Cody
Taylor ns
While I think Taylor benefited from the set up of that first week, people really ignore her consistently breaking bread with people who did not like her.
She also played Monte and played the biggest part in Micheal leaving . It's not a perfect game but she deserves more credit for navigating it the way that she did.
The jury also stated she left them gifts in their luggage . Like yeah she was working mend her perception , you can't blame that all on DRs.
Facts. No way things turn around and she gets to the end and wins without her social game and making people that hated her like her. Monte shit talked her the first few weeks then hooked up with her and took her to the end. Plus she won twice and her alliance won every other week so I don't see the rigging here. Also had one of the best speeches of all time.
How was Cody's win rigged?
The irony that Vince may flip to vote out Rylie but Mickey and Ava will save him, lol. They gotta have lead paint leaking through the walls this season or something. These people brains stopped working.
Mickey and Morgan swore they wouldn't vote each other off. Mickey stole his HoH and then proceeded to nominate him. I know they've gotten close as her and Morgan have drifted but I still think she keeps Morgan. Ava will do what Rachel and Will tell her I think. If we have Vince, I think he leaves.
I hope so. But I don't fully trust Mickey or Ava. Ava's read on Riley is completely off. Will COULD get Ava to evict Rylie . But my main problem with Will since day 1 is he doesn't push a darn thing. He just says "yep" and nods with anything whoever is talking to him says. Like TRY to persuade people at least.
Mickey is funny with her allies. Idk what she'll do.
Was rylie dropped several times as a baby? Why is his vocab so limited to the word fruit fly?
Literally can't watch the feeds because of how often he says it. It's so cringe and aggressive.
Well yes, he looks inbred....look at his face
Seems like rylie is staying in either scenario morgan better win blockbuster
Ratva wants to switch to the other side of the house and work with rylie it's kinda too late now lol
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Ava going from an icon last week to a clown this week.
And Will has no sense of urgency it's so frustrating to see that Rachel, ashley, and Morgan are the only ones with initiative from that side
She's always been a clown.
Will can literally just be like "hey Ava, we need you to vote with us. That will help me out a lot". But he gives NOTHING! Like omg. Poor Rachel with these allies.
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