Rachel didn't have to get on the internet and start kissing production's butt . And, if she did it's because she knew her return wasn't deserved and I had to make sure it wouldn't go to Jenny.
I don't give a fruit fly she worked with John, but all that extra fecal she did after is what most of us had an issue with.
Her return wasn't deserved? She was a pioneer on this show. And did at a time when being gay was frowned up. They already announced they were splitting the money before she defended him. Nothing you say makes sense.
At this point I'm convinced you're purposely acting dense.
Return was a typo, I meant win. At a certain point we have to use context clues because return doesn't mesh with the rest of that statement.
And, I know they announced her win before she defended him. That's the point im making she didn't have to do that. Thats why we were saying she was butt kissing. You're acting like she worked with him as a means to an end. No, she was defending a man who would never defend her. And, a man she used to disagree with on a fundamental level so she also looks like a sell out.
And even if she did defend him, she wasn't the topic of the convo and whatever she did doesn't justify what Rachel did? Playing hot potato to deflect is so damn childish.
And didn't Rachel try to defend John for that emoji mess? She won at that point, she didn't have to do that.
So did Taylor Hale.
Taylor said John reached out to her and she told him he needed to publicly apologize but he didn't.
She was def being way too nice about this, but she didn't defend him. And her statement was actually negative.
She did defend him by saying she never thought it was meant in a racist way but was disappointed he didn't speak out sooner and clarify especially because of the level of hate she was getting.
Rachel is a loyal and good friend, most of yall probably don't have long term friendships so you can't relate. Y'all are just mad cause she judges John on her own experience with him and doesn't pull a Jemmye and respond how the fans tell her to based on their perceptions of him.
but was disappointed he didn't speak out sooner and clarify especially because of the level of hate she was getting.
This right here is exactly what I just said. The crux of her statement was still shaming John. Like I said I think she gave him too much grace even to apologize, but telling a Black woman how she needs to react to something as if you're not a WHITE man is stupid.
And lastly, Taylor's response doesn't matter because we're talking about RACHEL. Rachel had no dog in that fight, and that was the problem with making that statement as if she had the right to speak on what he did and didn't mean.
And, the real reason you not mad at Rachel for that is because you be defending John too. You were quick to be up his butt during that Pop the Balloon stunt.
But, you had the gall to call yourself progressive when you wanted to call WIll abusive.
but was disappointed he didn't speak out sooner and clarify especially because of the level of hate she was getting.
This right here is exactly what I just said. The crux of her statement was still shaming John. Like I said I think she gave him too much grace even to apologize, but telling a Black woman how she needs to react to something as if you're not a WHITE man is stupid.
And lastly, Taylor's response doesn't matter because we're talking about RACHEL. Rachel had no dog in that fight, and that was the problem with making that statement as if she had the right to speak on what he did and didn't mean.
Huh? I don't know what you are trying to make. You are a mess tonight. I never said how Taylor needs to react? I said Taylor was 100% right in her feelings and response. It was fecal and wrong to stay quiet so long.
Rachel is a loyal friend and feels she knows his character. I think she should have stayed out of it, but she has her friends back. That's her prerogative. I can disagree and not hate her because of it.
And, the real reason you not mad at Rachel for that is because you be defending John too. You were quick to be up his butt during that Pop the Balloon stunt.
But, you had the gall to call yourself progressive when you wanted to call WIll abusive.
I didn't defend John. I don't like John. I spoke facts with screenshots and video evidence that he was not speaking to the black girl when he made that comment. Again, I don't let my dislike of a stranger dictate me making off stuff so I can justify my obsessive hate over someone I'll never meet in real life.
Huh? I don't know what you are trying to make. You are a mess tonight. I never said how Taylor needs to react? I said Taylor was 100% right in her feelings and response. It was fecal and wrong to stay quiet so long.
Rachel is a loyal friend and feels she knows his character. I think she should have stayed out of it, but she has her friends back. That's her prerogative. I can disagree and not hate her because of it.
"She did defend him by saying she never thought it was meant in a racist way." You said that in your previous statement. That would imply you were policing her feelings on it, because why does that matter if you agreed with her response? Because you saying what you just said implies you know her statement wasn't "defending" him and she called him out for not properly apologizing.
This is how I know you do this on purpose because everything I'm saying is based on what you're saying. You brought Taylor up as a "gotcha" to deflect from Rachel defending John.
And, saying I have an obsessive hate of Bananas is laughable. No, I don't like the man; he's consistently done things I do not like, and I don't gel with him. That's not obsessive hate, that's just me not liking someone. In the same way, you didn't like Will and made assumptions about his character based on what you've seen. Why can't I do that with John? When has he done and said racist things over the years?
She did defend him by saying she never thought it was meant in a racist way." You said that in your previous statement. That would imply you were policing her feelings on it, because why does that matter if you agreed with her response? Because you saying what you just said implies you know her statement wasn't "defending" him and she called him out for not properly apologizing. This is how I know you do this on purpose because everything I'm saying is based on what you're saying. You brought Taylor up as a "gotcha" to deflect from Rachel defending John.
Are you really this stupid or are you playing an act? How does me repeating her words imply that I am policing her? That literally makes zero sense. Her words were she didn't feel the intention was to be racist with the emoji and she was just hurt he didn't issue a response sooner. I agreed with that, I'm not policing her words lol. How do you even think you had a good rebuttal there? Ijbol. It wasn't a deflection. You bashed Rachel for defending her friend and I simply stated Taylor also stated that it wasn't racist. You want a fight. You make things up. You harp on them for years. You clearly are unhappy and you take it on people you have an unhealthy parasocial relationship with. Do you though.
You bringing up Taylor was irrelevant. She's the offended party; whatever her take on the situation was, it was her right to feel offended or not to feel offended. You had no reason to say her name. You just wanted to bring up someone you thought took away from my original statement.
None of this changes Rachel was going above and beyond to defend John and butt kiss production, leading back to my original point: she wasn't dragged solely for working with John, it was the performance she was giving on social media that caused people to stop liking her.
And, you've stated more than once that her statement called him out for not properly apologizing, so why the hell did you say she defended him when clearly there was more nuance to the situation? You simplified it for the purpose of being argumentative, and when I explained why those weren't the same, you backtracked to try and make me look stupid.
She's not irreleavnt when you bring up a situation where she was the victim. You can try to belittle her voice I won't. But you looked like an idiot trying to say I policed her words so not shocked you tried to skip over that and deflect.
Again, she defended her friend and herself after she was attacked by it with sexist remarks from people like you. You want to quiet her voice and being able to stick up for herself because she worked with someone you dislike. You'll die being bothered by your obsession with them. I can't relate. Prayers for peace for you though
And, you've stated more than once that her statement called him out for not properly apologizing, so why the hell did you say she defended him when clearly there was more nuance to the situation? You simplified it for the purpose of being argumentative, and when I explained why those weren't the same, you backtracked to try and make me look stupid.
SHE DEFENDED HIS INTENT WITH THE EMOJI! That's what was brought up by you. THE EMOJI. She said she never felt it was racist. Read HER statement, she defended him in that regards. What don't you get? You are honestly too dumb to debate with cause you never have a point or know what you are trying to argue. You just throw fecal at a wall hoping something lands but it never does.
Are you stupid? I did acknowledge that when I said she gave him too much grace. However, her statement also condemned him for not properly apologizing. She offered him unnecessary space to apologize, and he didn't even when he had a way out.
I said you were policing her statement by boiling it down SOLELY to her defending him, because it was more complicated than that. Her statement overall wasn't even in favor of him, even if she didn't personally feel victimized by the emoji he used, she still gave a negative response to his handling of it, especially since his fans were slinging slurs at her.
And, again even if she didn't feel a way about the emoji , that's her place to feel like that. Rachel didn't get a say on what he meant, because she was not the offended party. She also defended him before Taylor gave her feelings on the situation. So, yes, Rachel was still wrong for jumping to his defense when the person who was impacted by it hadn't even stated how they felt.
So, yes, Rachel was still wrong for jumping to his defense when the person who was impacted by it even stated how they felt.
Zzz...skimmed through most of your nonsense stupidity. I said I didn't agree with Rachel for defending him, but that's her decision as a friend who feels she knows her character. Again, I'm not going to do voodoo on her for a decade over it like you.
And, considering Taylor was already being attacked by his stans, imagine what would've happened if she said,"yeah I actually felt insulted by the emoji and I think it was racist".
You call yourself progressive, but don't think it's possible she felt compelled to show grace to diffuse the situation and stop being harassed? It would've got worse.
(And, I'm not saying that is the reason but that's why you stating she was defending him is stupid because there's nuances to situations like this and someone like Taylor is not going to get the full support you think she is, if she did infact feel like it was offensive.)
So, yes, Rachel was still wrong for jumping to his defense when the person who was impacted by it even stated how they felt.
Zzz...skimmed through most of your nonsense stupidity. I said I didn't agree with Rachel for defending him, but that's her decision as a friend who feels she knows her character. Again, I'm not going to do voodoo on her for a decade over it like you.
I haven't discussed Rachel in months. I liked her before this, and I was rooting for her in the spoiler thread for 40.
And, you not reading what I'm saying is why this back and forth is happening. Dumb butt.
Taylor has no issues giving her opinions on things like that. She is very vocal about standing against that (unless it's one of her two predator friends). She gave her statement. I trust her word. You just want this fight so bad.
At the end of the day Michaela doesn't have work done to her face so she wins #NaturalBeauty
Her return wasn't deserved? She was a pioneer on this show. And did at a time when being gay was frowned up. They already announced they were splitting the money before she defended him. Nothing you say makes sense.
So did Taylor Hale.
michaela is MAD at olivia is getting shine?
did you even watch the episode stupid lady?
At this point I'm convinced you're purposely acting dense.
Return was a typo, I meant win. At a certain point we have to use context clues because return doesn't mesh with the rest of that statement.
And, I know they announced her win before she defended him. That's the point im making she didn't have to do that. Thats why we were saying she was butt kissing. You're acting like she worked with him as a means to an end. No, she was defending a man who would never defend her. And, a man she used to disagree with on a fundamental level so she also looks like a sell out.
Literally said she's being ridiculous for stating using Aviv 2.0 as an insult but, again, PR, unlike you, is consistent.
Taylor said John reached out to her and she told him he needed to publicly apologize but he didn't.
She was def being way too nice about this, but she didn't defend him. And her statement was actually negative.
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And even if she did defend him, she wasn't the topic of the convo and whatever she did doesn't justify what Rachel did? Playing hot potato to deflect is so damn childish.
She did defend him by saying she never thought it was meant in a racist way but was disappointed he didn't speak out sooner and clarify especially because of the level of hate she was getting.
Rachel is a loyal and good friend, most of yall probably don't have long term friendships so you can't relate. Y'all are just mad cause she judges John on her own experience with him and doesn't pull a Jemmye and respond how the fans tell her to based on their perceptions of him.
This right here is exactly what I just said. The crux of her statement was still shaming John. Like I said I think she gave him too much grace even to apologize, but telling a Black woman how she needs to react to something as if you're not a WHITE man is stupid.
And lastly, Taylor's response doesn't matter because we're talking about RACHEL. Rachel had no dog in that fight, and that was the problem with making that statement as if she had the right to speak on what he did and didn't mean.
Why are we talking about that BB Fraud in this queens thread?
And, the real reason you not mad at Rachel for that is because you be defending John too. You were quick to be up his butt during that Pop the Balloon stunt.
But, you had the gall to call yourself progressive when you wanted to call WIll abusive.
Huh? I don't know what you are trying to make. You are a mess tonight. I never said how Taylor needs to react? I said Taylor was 100% right in her feelings and response. It was fecal and wrong to stay quiet so long.
Rachel is a loyal friend and feels she knows his character. I think she should have stayed out of it, but she has her friends back. That's her prerogative. I can disagree and not hate her because of it.
I didn't defend John. I don't like John. I spoke facts with screenshots and video evidence that he was not speaking to the black girl when he made that comment. Again, I don't let my dislike of a stranger dictate me making off stuff so I can justify my obsessive hate over someone I'll never meet in real life.
Michaela never kisses anyone butt, she can always stand on her OWN
"She did defend him by saying she never thought it was meant in a racist way." You said that in your previous statement. That would imply you were policing her feelings on it, because why does that matter if you agreed with her response? Because you saying what you just said implies you know her statement wasn't "defending" him and she called him out for not properly apologizing.
This is how I know you do this on purpose because everything I'm saying is based on what you're saying. You brought Taylor up as a "gotcha" to deflect from Rachel defending John.
And, saying I have an obsessive hate of Bananas is laughable. No, I don't like the man; he's consistently done things I do not like, and I don't gel with him. That's not obsessive hate, that's just me not liking someone. In the same way, you didn't like Will and made assumptions about his character based on what you've seen. Why can't I do that with John? When has he done and said racist things over the years?
Are you really this stupid or are you playing an act? How does me repeating her words imply that I am policing her? That literally makes zero sense. Her words were she didn't feel the intention was to be racist with the emoji and she was just hurt he didn't issue a response sooner. I agreed with that, I'm not policing her words lol. How do you even think you had a good rebuttal there? Ijbol. It wasn't a deflection. You bashed Rachel for defending her friend and I simply stated Taylor also stated that it wasn't racist. You want a fight. You make things up. You harp on them for years. You clearly are unhappy and you take it on people you have an unhealthy parasocial relationship with. Do you though.
Oh brother.
You bringing up Taylor was irrelevant. She's the offended party; whatever her take on the situation was, it was her right to feel offended or not to feel offended. You had no reason to say her name. You just wanted to bring up someone you thought took away from my original statement.
None of this changes Rachel was going above and beyond to defend John and butt kiss production, leading back to my original point: she wasn't dragged solely for working with John, it was the performance she was giving on social media that caused people to stop liking her.
And, you've stated more than once that her statement called him out for not properly apologizing, so why the hell did you say she defended him when clearly there was more nuance to the situation? You simplified it for the purpose of being argumentative, and when I explained why those weren't the same, you backtracked to try and make me look stupid.
She's not irreleavnt when you bring up a situation where she was the victim. You can try to belittle her voice I won't. But you looked like an idiot trying to say I policed her words so not shocked you tried to skip over that and deflect.
Again, she defended her friend and herself after she was attacked by it with sexist remarks from people like you. You want to quiet her voice and being able to stick up for herself because she worked with someone you dislike. You'll die being bothered by your obsession with them. I can't relate. Prayers for peace for you though
SHE DEFENDED HIS INTENT WITH THE EMOJI! That's what was brought up by you. THE EMOJI. She said she never felt it was racist. Read HER statement, she defended him in that regards. What don't you get? You are honestly too dumb to debate with cause you never have a point or know what you are trying to argue. You just throw fecal at a wall hoping something lands but it never does.
Anyways Michaela killed it this episode #BradshawBombshells
Are you stupid? I did acknowledge that when I said she gave him too much grace. However, her statement also condemned him for not properly apologizing. She offered him unnecessary space to apologize, and he didn't even when he had a way out.
I said you were policing her statement by boiling it down SOLELY to her defending him, because it was more complicated than that. Her statement overall wasn't even in favor of him, even if she didn't personally feel victimized by the emoji he used, she still gave a negative response to his handling of it, especially since his fans were slinging slurs at her.
And, again even if she didn't feel a way about the emoji , that's her place to feel like that. Rachel didn't get a say on what he meant, because she was not the offended party. She also defended him before Taylor gave her feelings on the situation. So, yes, Rachel was still wrong for jumping to his defense when the person who was impacted by it hadn't even stated how they felt.
Zzz...skimmed through most of your nonsense stupidity. I said I didn't agree with Rachel for defending him, but that's her decision as a friend who feels she knows her character. Again, I'm not going to do voodoo on her for a decade over it like you.
And, considering Taylor was already being attacked by his stans, imagine what would've happened if she said,"yeah I actually felt insulted by the emoji and I think it was racist".
You call yourself progressive, but don't think it's possible she felt compelled to show grace to diffuse the situation and stop being harassed? It would've got worse.
(And, I'm not saying that is the reason but that's why you stating she was defending him is stupid because there's nuances to situations like this and someone like Taylor is not going to get the full support you think she is, if she did infact feel like it was offensive.)
I haven't discussed Rachel in months. I liked her before this, and I was rooting for her in the spoiler thread for 40.
And, you not reading what I'm saying is why this back and forth is happening. Dumb butt.
Taylor has no issues giving her opinions on things like that. She is very vocal about standing against that (unless it's one of her two predator friends). She gave her statement. I trust her word. You just want this fight so bad.
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