ppl crap on parents way too much for doing these shows but i don't think they realize that doing these seasons gives yr kid savings money that 95% of parents would only dream to have. da'vonne's daughter is probably set for life and will have more money than most trust fund kids.
especially with an unstable economy and job market that can tank any time now.. any parent with a brain would accept free cash like this if it means being away for a few months
I agree. I also think in general it's disgusting that the hate always seems to be on the moms. If a dad leaves his kids to film 6 shows nothing is said, but the second a mom leaves to film one her character is unfairly attacked.
ppl crap on parents way too much for doing these shows but i don't think they realize that doing these seasons gives yr kid savings money that 95% of parents would only dream to have. da'vonne's daughter is probably set for life and will have more money than most trust fund kids.
especially with an unstable economy and job market that can tank any time now.. any parent with a brain would accept free cash like this if it means being away for a few months
I agree. I also think in general it's disgusting that the hate always seems to be on the moms. If a dad leaves his kids to film 6 shows nothing is said, but the second a mom leaves to film one her character is unfairly attacked.
100%
it isn't any different than a parent who travels for work and is gone for certain periods of time. people forget that this show is a job above anything.
All Stars could've had at least one Real World vs. Road Rules season but they've insisted on casting mfs from other shows.
I don't think you can find 12-14 Road Rulers that can hang anymore. You'd most likely find 6-8 who are good/decent, and 4-6 that are just not up for it anymore.
Still... why not Good Guys vs Bad Azes??? Or Champs vs Contenders? We can still have two big teams like Old School challenge.
Road Rulers...just from who has done the show or was apparently willing
Guys..Mark Darrell Kefla Laterrian Derrick Adam Steve Abram Shane
Girls..Katie Veronica Jislea Kendal Roni Rachel Tina Jodi Sophia
There's others like Yes Ayanna Susie Holly S Tara Abram plus you could do RR/FM so you ads Ryan Aviv Laurel etc if desperate but 16 wouldn't have been hard.
All Stars could've had at least one Real World vs. Road Rules season but they've insisted on casting mfs from other shows.
I don't think you can find 12-14 Road Rulers that can hang anymore. You'd most likely find 6-8 who are good/decent, and 4-6 that are just not up for it anymore.
Still... why not Good Guys vs Bad Azes??? Or Champs vs Contenders? We can still have two big teams like Old School challenge.
You can balance it by casting some old real Worlders too. Maybe throw in fresh meat or other challenge contestants as mercenaries or something (2 for each team). Something like...
Team RW
Brad, Tony (pre-DUI) or Cory, MJ, Jon, Syrus, Teck, Derek, Nehemiah, Beth, Cynthia or Julie, Jenn, Kellyanne, Sam, Jonna, Ashley, Averey
Mercenaries: idk some combination of Fessy/Kyland/Theo/Hunter/Laurel/Kam/Cara/Amanda or whoever tf else has been on the show that is not Real World or Road Rules:
perfect list of Road Rules rep! Not loving all the real world on that list but I'd take it over the crap casting that was AS5
Justice for Genesis, Dan, and Tara - give them their shot! Also bring on people we haven't seen: Irulan, Elka, Anne, the Holly's, etc. Coral if we're lucky. The point of All Stars was to bring back familiar faces - it was such nice a gift to the fans that have been around since the start - leave Corey, Big T, Fessy etc for the flagship if you have to have them
So I'm looking at Champions vs Contenders with a cast of 28.
My casting pool of people that have been on All Stars before (that are NOT on 41, and that have not said they're not coming back like Alton/Janelle or declining non-stop like Kailah) is most likely something like this:
Amanda, Averey, Big T, Casey, Davonne?, Jasmine, Kam, Kellyanne, Melinda, Melissa, Nicole Z (ugh), Tina
And the potential rookies, we discussed:
Cooke, Dan, Julie, Lori, Marlon, Pete, Sarah, Susie
57 names for 28 spots, might be ~5 or so that I'm not thinking about and obviously a few early boots from 41 will probably be considered. Not a bad casting pool.
I'd love a heroes vs villains but i really don't know how i would categorize them, too much moral greyness
Based on the edits they get, obvious heroes from this list would be:
I've always wanted a battle of the seasons theme but with classic seasons of the challenge;
Team OG: Mark - Kefla - Roni - Beth (would prefer Montana over Beth)
Team 200: Yes - Dan - Veronica - Holly
Team Extreme: LT - Jamie - Julie - Susie (Would prefer anyone over Susie)
Team Sexes: Blair - Dan - Ruthie - Genesis
Team Gauntlet: Adam - Alton - Sarah - Rachel
Team Inferno: Darrell - Ace - Katie - Kendal
Team Fresh Meat: Derrick - Shane - Aviv - Melinda
Team Duel: Brad - Nehemiah - Jodi - Tina
I'm sold. Though gotta gave Susie and bump Blair
becuase I've always loved Jason Cornwall I can get behind bumping Blair, moving Mark, and putting Jason on team OG. But I will be begging Rebecca Kameelah or Emily to pick up the phone for team extreme
Honestly, if they are just doing old themes rebranded for allstars, let's have an allstars ruins, bringing older winners balances it out a lot more than the main show would.
Honestly, if they are just doing old themes rebranded for allstars, let's have an allstars ruins, bringing older winners balances it out a lot more than the main show would.
Absolutely.
Your best case scenario to get a team full of Champions that is not annoyingly Bananas/CT/Derrick/Tori/Jenny is to do it on All Stars with a 7-8 week filming time instead of the 11-12 weeks of the flagship.
People kinda ignore the Ruins in general due to it being an obnoxious and awful season and the Challengers getting run over (even though it was 6 on 6 entering Episode 8 ).
But the format was S-Tier: team challenges, team and personal bank accounts, and WINNING ELIMINATIONS ENRICHES YOU. Now, the voting format could use a little bit of work. I would be good with a secret vote and a hopper ala USA2.
If we're taking on old themes I want Battle of the Sexes with a score board
Scoreboard!
We don't need the scoreboard! We need a cashboard! #WeWantPersonalBankAccounts!!!
both woudl be fine. Make it sexes - scoreboard- top three are inner circle - Vote one person not in inner circle into elimination, that person picks anyone not in inner circle to battle. And if you want them to have bank accounts give everyone $5,000 to start and they can win money in challenges but also if you defeat someone in elimination you get their money,
If we're taking on old themes I want Battle of the Sexes with a score board
Scoreboard!
We don't need the scoreboard! We need a cashboard! #WeWantPersonalBankAccounts!!!
Has that ever worked? I mean, it was great to watch Tony go home and lose all his money but it hasn't actually worked with how it was intended
A scoreboard makes a lot of sense. The bottom person automatically goes in--the top 3 vote in their opponent from anyone else. It would actually force people to try which is one of the biggest issues with the show right now.
Scoreboard is lame. It's just going to prevent any drama and send in the bottom. The flops are usually the most entertaining. Protect the flops!
oh I mainly want it to shut up some of the dudes who puff their chest out saying how great they are but have never won a season -'for example, Mr. Fessy. But I love my idea for it but I'm clearly biased lol
I agree. I also think in general it's disgusting that the hate always seems to be on the moms. If a dad leaves his kids to film 6 shows nothing is said, but the second a mom leaves to film one her character is unfairly attacked.
100%
it isn't any different than a parent who travels for work and is gone for certain periods of time. people forget that this show is a job above anything.
Road Rulers...just from who has done the show or was apparently willing
Guys..Mark Darrell Kefla Laterrian Derrick Adam Steve Abram Shane
Girls..Katie Veronica Jislea Kendal Roni Rachel Tina Jodi Sophia
There's others like Yes Ayanna Susie Holly S Tara Abram plus you could do RR/FM so you ads Ryan Aviv Laurel etc if desperate but 16 wouldn't have been hard.
I've always wanted a battle of the seasons theme but with classic seasons of the challenge;
Team OG: Mark - Kefla - Roni - Beth (would prefer Montana over Beth)
Team 200: Yes - Dan - Veronica - Holly
Team Extreme: LT - Jamie - Julie - Susie (Would prefer anyone over Susie)
Team Sexes: Blair - Dan - Ruthie - Genesis
Team Gauntlet: Adam - Alton - Sarah - Rachel
Team Inferno: Darrell - Ace - Katie - Kendal
Team Fresh Meat: Derrick - Shane - Aviv - Melinda
Team Duel: Brad - Nehemiah - Jodi - Tina
this. THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!
perfect list of Road Rules rep! Not loving all the real world on that list but I'd take it over the crap casting that was AS5
this is great too!
Justice for Genesis, Dan, and Tara - give them their shot! Also bring on people we haven't seen: Irulan, Elka, Anne, the Holly's, etc. Coral if we're lucky. The point of All Stars was to bring back familiar faces - it was such nice a gift to the fans that have been around since the start - leave Corey, Big T, Fessy etc for the flagship if you have to have them
I'd love a heroes vs villains but i really don't know how i would categorize them, too much moral greyness
Based on the edits they get, obvious heroes from this list would be:
Villains would be:
Everyone else I find their edits are somewhere in the middle
I also hope some of the random returns get second chances too like I really want to see Kefla again, Roni, Flora (only if Beth comes) Cynthia, etc
AS1 should have been RW vs RR. There was zero excuse to not get it right.
Yeah I think the time to do that was 5 years ago.
Now the age range of the likely Road Rules Contestants is 42-54 and the age range of the likely Real World Contestants is 33-48.
It would feel too much like Eras in competition strength, IMO.
I'm sold. Though gotta gave Susie and bump Blair
Love this
becuase I've always loved Jason Cornwall I can get behind bumping Blair, moving Mark, and putting Jason on team OG. But I will be begging Rebecca Kameelah or Emily to pick up the phone for team extreme
Awwww I miss Blair. His lil aftershow thingy was funny
And why did the mod edit my comment from shit to crap Are we being for real...........
mods have gone so soft
are you going to pay their bail
Honestly, if they are just doing old themes rebranded for allstars, let's have an allstars ruins, bringing older winners balances it out a lot more than the main show would.
Absolutely.
Your best case scenario to get a team full of Champions that is not annoyingly Bananas/CT/Derrick/Tori/Jenny is to do it on All Stars with a 7-8 week filming time instead of the 11-12 weeks of the flagship.
People kinda ignore the Ruins in general due to it being an obnoxious and awful season and the Challengers getting run over (even though it was 6 on 6 entering Episode 8 ).
But the format was S-Tier: team challenges, team and personal bank accounts, and WINNING ELIMINATIONS ENRICHES YOU. Now, the voting format could use a little bit of work. I would be good with a secret vote and a hopper ala USA2.
If we're taking on old themes I want Battle of the Sexes with a score board
Scoreboard!
We don't need the scoreboard! We need a cashboard! #WeWantPersonalBankAccounts!!!
both woudl be fine. Make it sexes - scoreboard- top three are inner circle - Vote one person not in inner circle into elimination, that person picks anyone not in inner circle to battle. And if you want them to have bank accounts give everyone $5,000 to start and they can win money in challenges but also if you defeat someone in elimination you get their money,
Has that ever worked? I mean, it was great to watch Tony go home and lose all his money but it hasn't actually worked with how it was intended
A scoreboard makes a lot of sense. The bottom person automatically goes in--the top 3 vote in their opponent from anyone else. It would actually force people to try which is one of the biggest issues with the show right now.
Scoreboard is lame. It's just going to prevent any drama and send in the bottom. The flops are usually the most entertaining. Protect the flops!
oh I mainly want it to shut up some of the dudes who puff their chest out saying how great they are but have never won a season -'for example, Mr. Fessy. But I love my idea for it but I'm clearly biased lol
Back in Era 1 there would be little drama around voting. I think with the right cast it would be all drama in the current era
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