No one wants to do the show if it films for a long time..unlike all stars. For example: Bayleigh literally said she'd come back but only if Kam came back & we know kam isn't coming back to the flagship show for a while. I'm confused as to why they aren't using girls from The Challenge: USA. I would love to see Justine or Desi on the main show.
I don't get why from a financial aspect they want to film so long - they could save money on crew and rentals by making it shorter, they got great content back in the day with shorter filming schedules, it would allow old favorites back who would be willing to do it (not just OG's but people like Kam too). Why not spend less for possible better quality.
If you put the cast to a fan vote and said here's 150 Veteran Challengers that want to return and you can vote for them to return, Aneesa probably finishes in the 75-85 range, Olivia in the 85-95, and Derek mayyyyybe finishes in the 105-115 range. And that's with their recency bias.
Needless to say, all three are wanted by absolutely no one except Tori for Aneesa, Michele for Olivia, and Ryan for Derek.
The Olivia and Derek hate is odd. Derek's made two recent finals and AGAIN they tried to kill Olivia. The moment that happened you knew she was on for the next 5-10 years
Also, I don't think casuals would vote how you think at all and the top 50 are people that are never coming back.
If you put the cast to a fan vote and said here's 150 Veteran Challengers that want to return and you can vote for them to return, Aneesa probably finishes in the 75-85 range, Olivia in the 85-95, and Derek mayyyyybe finishes in the 105-115 range. And that's with their recency bias.
Needless to say, all three are wanted by absolutely no one except Tori for Aneesa, Michele for Olivia, and Ryan for Derek.
The Olivia and Derek hate is odd. Derek's made two recent finals and AGAIN they tried to kill Olivia. The moment that happened you knew she was on for the next 5-10 years
Also, I don't think casuals would vote how you think at all and the top 50 are people that are never coming back.
No one wants to do the show if it films for a long time..unlike all stars. For example: Bayleigh literally said she'd come back but only if Kam came back & we know kam isn't coming back to the flagship show for a while. I'm confused as to why they aren't using girls from The Challenge: USA. I would love to see Justine or Desi on the main show.
I don't get why from a financial aspect they want to film so long - they could save money on crew and rentals by making it shorter, they got great content back in the day with shorter filming schedules, it would allow old favorites back who would be willing to do it (not just OG's but people like Kam too). Why not spend less for possible better quality.
It makes no sense. Survivor cut its days from 39 days to 26 and they still have the same amount of episodes so the challenge can cut down from 3 months to 2 months and still pump out 5 month seasons. There's probably so much downtime where they aint doing shit anyways.
If you put the cast to a fan vote and said here's 150 Veteran Challengers that want to return and you can vote for them to return, Aneesa probably finishes in the 75-85 range, Olivia in the 85-95, and Derek mayyyyybe finishes in the 105-115 range. And that's with their recency bias.
Needless to say, all three are wanted by absolutely no one except Tori for Aneesa, Michele for Olivia, and Ryan for Derek.
The Olivia and Derek hate is odd. Derek's made two recent finals and AGAIN they tried to kill Olivia. The moment that happened you knew she was on for the next 5-10 years
Also, I don't think casuals would vote how you think at all and the top 50 are people that are never coming back.
They have NO. FANS.
Of course they do....everyone has fans. Both are fine. There's way worse choices than either of them.
Derek double diverse. Tried to kill Olivia. Embrace reality.
If you put the cast to a fan vote and said here's 150 Veteran Challengers that want to return and you can vote for them to return, Aneesa probably finishes in the 75-85 range, Olivia in the 85-95, and Derek mayyyyybe finishes in the 105-115 range. And that's with their recency bias.
Needless to say, all three are wanted by absolutely no one except Tori for Aneesa, Michele for Olivia, and Ryan for Derek.
The Olivia and Derek hate is odd. Derek's made two recent finals and AGAIN they tried to kill Olivia. The moment that happened you knew she was on for the next 5-10 years
Also, I don't think casuals would vote how you think at all and the top 50 are people that are never coming back.
They have NO. FANS.
speak for yourself - Derek in all stars and 40 made me a fan. I don't like most of the men but he's on my radar now.
The show's not going to last long enough to know. Seriously. I'm guessing right now Season 43 will be the final flagship season.
Nah it somehow still does decent ratings even though they do everything to sabotage the show... At the very least it will be here till season 50 and we can revisit it then bc at that point everyone will be mostly pushing 40 and up. Imagine seeing bananas and Ct at 50 competiting with 20 somethings in a couple years lol
MTV IS dying and Skydance is going to sell it for parts at some point in the next 2-4 years. All Stars shed 20% of its audience last episode. It only takes two really bad seasons in a row to put 95% of the shows on television in danger of cancellation.
If 41 sucks (cast or format or just too damn long), the show will absolutely be on its last legs.
Out of all the random castings most fall flat for me but Olivia isn't as horrible as everyone makes her out to be. I haven't watched 39 yet but based On everything I've seen she is fine, along with Gabby, Priscilla, Jenny, Michaela, & Berna (I liked her on SLA). Still hate we pick such random people but at least these people seem to have shown personality. Although SLA I was miserable watching so possibly would feel differently about some of them now lol
If you put the cast to a fan vote and said here's 150 Veteran Challengers that want to return and you can vote for them to return, Aneesa probably finishes in the 75-85 range, Olivia in the 85-95, and Derek mayyyyybe finishes in the 105-115 range. And that's with their recency bias.
Needless to say, all three are wanted by absolutely no one except Tori for Aneesa, Michele for Olivia, and Ryan for Derek.
The Olivia and Derek hate is odd. Derek's made two recent finals and AGAIN they tried to kill Olivia. The moment that happened you knew she was on for the next 5-10 years
Also, I don't think casuals would vote how you think at all and the top 50 are people that are never coming back.
They have NO. FANS.
speak for yourself - Derek in all stars and 40 made me a fan. I don't like most of the men but he's on my radar now.
It's a red letter day! We disagree so infrequently lol. Honestly, I understand from a casting perspective why were are getting him. The name of the casting game is diversity, and he's been performing decently recently so it makes sense why production is greenlighting him. Honestly, he's just really bland to me. He's not a natural in front of the camera, all his confessionals are really lackluster. He also hasn't ever played a part in any main narrative, he's just kinda there. It hurts to see him on the cast when we have Frank and Shane who could be coaxed. Honestly, I'm even missing Preston at this point lol.
If you put the cast to a fan vote and said here's 150 Veteran Challengers that want to return and you can vote for them to return, Aneesa probably finishes in the 75-85 range, Olivia in the 85-95, and Derek mayyyyybe finishes in the 105-115 range. And that's with their recency bias.
Needless to say, all three are wanted by absolutely no one except Tori for Aneesa, Michele for Olivia, and Ryan for Derek.
The Olivia and Derek hate is odd. Derek's made two recent finals and AGAIN they tried to kill Olivia. The moment that happened you knew she was on for the next 5-10 years
Also, I don't think casuals would vote how you think at all and the top 50 are people that are never coming back.
They have NO. FANS.
speak for yourself - Derek in all stars and 40 made me a fan. I don't like most of the men but he's on my radar now.
When you already have checked out people like Leroy and Aneesa taking up spots, and then you fill up a full one fifth of the cast with the likes of Derek, Olivia, and Aviv...you have a ******* full blown bore hore crisis on your hands.
I don't get why from a financial aspect they want to film so long - they could save money on crew and rentals by making it shorter, they got great content back in the day with shorter filming schedules, it would allow old favorites back who would be willing to do it (not just OG's but people like Kam too). Why not spend less for possible better quality.
The Olivia and Derek hate is odd. Derek's made two recent finals and AGAIN they tried to kill Olivia. The moment that happened you knew she was on for the next 5-10 years
Also, I don't think casuals would vote how you think at all and the top 50 are people that are never coming back.
So bc Derek made finals, we're supposed to like him? Lmaoo
They have NO. FANS.
It makes no sense. Survivor cut its days from 39 days to 26 and they still have the same amount of episodes so the challenge can cut down from 3 months to 2 months and still pump out 5 month seasons. There's probably so much downtime where they aint doing shit anyways.
NINJA NATALIE MADE TWO FINALS.
BRING HER BACK.
I LOVE HER SHIT.
Of course they do....everyone has fans. Both are fine. There's way worse choices than either of them.
Derek double diverse. Tried to kill Olivia. Embrace reality.
literally. i've only seen like 2 olivia stans since her debut
The point of the show is to make a final and win.
But anyways aviv got her chance at redemption so when will our fresh meat 2 winner carley get that same oppurtunity
speak for yourself - Derek in all stars and 40 made me a fan. I don't like most of the men but he's on my radar now.
MTV IS dying and Skydance is going to sell it for parts at some point in the next 2-4 years. All Stars shed 20% of its audience last episode. It only takes two really bad seasons in a row to put 95% of the shows on television in danger of cancellation.
If 41 sucks (cast or format or just too damn long), the show will absolutely be on its last legs.
departure day followers count. justin who was on 3 eps of cheer having more than double of derek is killing me
Cara Maria: 573k
Nany: 469k
Olivia: 423k
Aneesa: 240k
Blue: 131k
Dee: 106k
America: 54.9k
Aviv: 11.8k
Bananas: 932k
Wes: 469k
Theo: 305k
Leroy: 287k
Coye: 77.5k
Justin: 46.7k
Derek: 23.1k
Yeremi: 6,249
im dead at selling it for parts
taking into account love island inflation olivia's following doesn't mean shit
Out of all the random castings most fall flat for me but Olivia isn't as horrible as everyone makes her out to be. I haven't watched 39 yet but based On everything I've seen she is fine, along with Gabby, Priscilla, Jenny, Michaela, & Berna (I liked her on SLA). Still hate we pick such random people but at least these people seem to have shown personality. Although SLA I was miserable watching so possibly would feel differently about some of them now lol
It's a red letter day! We disagree so infrequently lol. Honestly, I understand from a casting perspective why were are getting him. The name of the casting game is diversity, and he's been performing decently recently so it makes sense why production is greenlighting him. Honestly, he's just really bland to me. He's not a natural in front of the camera, all his confessionals are really lackluster. He also hasn't ever played a part in any main narrative, he's just kinda there. It hurts to see him on the cast when we have Frank and Shane who could be coaxed. Honestly, I'm even missing Preston at this point lol.
See fans
Atp I'll take Esther's trifling a^ss
When you already have checked out people like Leroy and Aneesa taking up spots, and then you fill up a full one fifth of the cast with the likes of Derek, Olivia, and Aviv...you have a ******* full blown bore hore crisis on your hands.
A bunch of stagnant nothings doing nothing.
For 19 episodes.
Gamer just posted Derrick and Nia
WE JUST GOT DEREK FOR 19 EPISODES.
ONE FUNNY CONFESSIONAL.
THAT WAS IT.
THE WHOLE SEASON.
Okay Nia don't disappoint me now sister
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Boy were they probably struggling with the male vet side because how are both Dereks on this list...
sold averey out, got his *** beat by a plant AGAIN, and had no funny moments.
WOOOOO
Derrick HAS to be an alt. This is ridiculous.
how desperste is derek? didnt he tear his acl??
I'm shocked with Derrick K, cause I thought he was injured still. Maybe this is who Gamer was eluding too with the Horacio troll yesterday.
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