honestly if i was a member of production having to deal with optics, i'd be pulling my ******* hair out trying to navigate all of these challengers who do not know how to keep their mouths shut.
it's complicated cause if she doesn't appear on the next season, everyone will know why. people will call out production for not also dropping all the other maga challengers, who are mostly fan favorites amongst the casuals. they'd also get hate for being too "woke." if she does appear on the next season, people will call out production for letting an alleged transphobe on and for allowing her ignorant behavior to be rewarded through her being cast. they're kind of in a lose lose situation. they're gonna get backlash from certain sections of the fanbase either way.
I think you are overthinking it. Everyone acted like TMZ would report they cast Emily with the video of her doing blackface. 95% of the fanbase doesn't know or care about these online controversies. I think they only care when they think it might carry into the season, be an issue with the cast, and headache for production.
My prediction is Cara got dropped. They gave her a second chance and then she quickly písșed them off again. John I think they are undecided. They don't know if they want to upset the Twitter fans or casual fans.
it's complicated cause if she doesn't appear on the next season, everyone will know why. people will call out production for not also dropping all the other maga challengers, who are mostly fan favorites amongst the casuals. they'd also get hate for being too "woke." if she does appear on the next season, people will call out production for letting an alleged transphobe on and for allowing her ignorant behavior to be rewarded through her being cast. they're kind of in a lose lose situation. they're gonna get backlash from certain sections of the fanbase either way.
I think you are overthinking it. Everyone acted like TMZ would report they cast Emily with the video of her doing blackface. 95% of the fanbase doesn't know or care about these online controversies. I think they only care when they think it might carry into the season, be an issue with the cast, and headache for production.
i think the difference is that the political climate right now is steaming hot with all of trump's executive orders and everything else going on. if it dies down for the next few months this would probably seem like a relatively small issue in the grand scheme of things. but right now from an optics standpoint this is the absolute worst time to be getting into a mess like this.
and no one reported emily to tmz because no one gives a **** about her. cara's the female face of the show. emily came back like a decade later and i doubt 90% of the season 40 cast even knew about the blackface incident. if cara comes back next season i think it's likely that there will be other cast members getting into arguments with her over it. but they again i guess then can edit it all out like they do everything else.
it really is all about timing. dee would probably still be on the show if her acid tripping galaxy brain made that racist tweet at a different time but she decided to tweet it at the peak of the BLM protests. then they dropped her for optics reasons, not because mtv actually cares. cara chose the worst time to be showing off her elementary school level education and poor critical thinking skills.
Since Michaela has abandoned us, Bayleigh isn't interested in doing rtv, and Kam is a walking incubator, we're stuck with the leftovers of the black female challengers
I think Desi's done too..
Justine and Chanelle are right there though in the forgotten pile. Both could conceivably win.
Justine doesn't need to do this unless for whatever reason she really wants to. She's about to be on perfect match which based on her history of being the main character on her dating shows means she's probably about to get a massive boost in social media and advertising money
it really is all about timing. dee would probably still be on the show if her acid tripping galaxy brain made that racist tweet at a different time but she decided to tweet it at the peak of the BLM protests. then they dropped her for optics reasons, not because mtv actually cares. cara chose the worst time to be showing off her elementary school level education and poor critical thinking skills.
Seriously. So many people have done way worse. I still remember Jemmye's comments after the D30 Camilla stuff where she started it off with 'As someone who's likely going to have a black child one day' which I thought was absolutely disgusting. Just lucky nobody really cared at the time
it's complicated cause if she doesn't appear on the next season, everyone will know why. people will call out production for not also dropping all the other maga challengers, who are mostly fan favorites amongst the casuals. they'd also get hate for being too "woke." if she does appear on the next season, people will call out production for letting an alleged transphobe on and for allowing her ignorant behavior to be rewarded through her being cast. they're kind of in a lose lose situation. they're gonna get backlash from certain sections of the fanbase either way.
I think you are overthinking it. Everyone acted like TMZ would report they cast Emily with the video of her doing blackface. 95% of the fanbase doesn't know or care about these online controversies. I think they only care when they think it might carry into the season, be an issue with the cast, and headache for production.
i think the difference is that the political climate right now is steaming hot with all of trump's executive orders and everything else going on. if it dies down for the next few months this would probably seem like a relatively small issue in the grand scheme of things. but right now from an optics standpoint this is the absolute worst time to be getting into a mess like this.
and no one reported emily to tmz because no one gives a **** about her. cara's the female face of the show. emily came back like a decade later and i doubt 90% of the season 40 cast even knew about the blackface incident. if cara comes back next season i think it's likely that there will be other cast members getting into arguments with her over it. but they again i guess then can edit it all out like they do everything else.
The political climate right now is what exactly? If anything her views are less likely to be attacked.
People here said repeatedly Emily would never be back because of that. No one cared because it was absolutely nothing. Just like this whole Cara saga is nothing. I just dont want her there. Replace her with Emily
it really is all about timing. dee would probably still be on the show if her acid tripping galaxy brain made that racist tweet at a different time but she decided to tweet it at the peak of the BLM protests. then they dropped her for optics reasons, not because mtv actually cares. cara chose the worst time to be showing off her elementary school level education and poor critical thinking skills.
Seriously. So many people have done way worse. I still remember Jemmye's comments after the D30 Camilla stuff where she started it off with 'As someone who's likely going to have a black child one day' which I thought was absolutely disgusting. Just lucky nobody really cared at the time
99.999% people wouldn't care now...just those that want to be offended by someone that has dated primarily black men.
Since Michaela has abandoned us, Bayleigh isn't interested in doing rtv, and Kam is a walking incubator, we're stuck with the leftovers of the black female challengers
I think Desi's done too..
Justine and Chanelle are right there though in the forgotten pile. Both could conceivably win.
Justine doesn't need to do this unless for whatever reason she really wants to. She's about to be on perfect match which based on her history of being the main character on her dating shows means she's probably about to get a massive boost in social media and advertising money
she loves fitness, and never spoke bad on the challenge. I definitely think she wants back, theyre just ignoring her.
There are 4 active threads right now. All 4 are discussing politics. Can we please stop or can it be moved to one single thread? It's so ******* annoying. Can we just talk ******* trashy reality tv? It does not have to be brought into everything. It's the same convo. Everyone at Vevmo is a Trump hating lib except KVM who will neglect his fictional family writing paragraphs defending the man, and me whose gonna ***** and whine about all sides. We don't have to rehash the same opinions and arguements 24/7. No one's opinions are changing. Please, please, please just let it ******* go. We can even debate who the best female competitor is for the billionth time. I say Holly Shand.
Since Michaela has abandoned us, Bayleigh isn't interested in doing rtv, and Kam is a walking incubator, we're stuck with the leftovers of the black female challengers
I think Desi's done too..
Justine and Chanelle are right there though in the forgotten pile. Both could conceivably win.
Desi said multiple times she doesn't see herself doing another season. I think it was just winning for her, and once she got that, there was no reason for her to return.
Add Chanelle to being done, too. I think the fan response to her turned her off.
I think Justine might. I believe she dropped herself for 39 and decided to do LI Games. I feel like she could sneak on eventually.
what a psychopath
just kidding pink![Wink](https://vevmo.com/sites/all/modules/smiley/packs/kolobok/wink.gif)
honestly if i was a member of production having to deal with optics, i'd be pulling my ******* hair out trying to navigate all of these challengers who do not know how to keep their mouths shut.
If MTV cast Survivor players 7 years ago he would have been on. It's probably too late now.
They def fhuk on the low![Smile](https://vevmo.com/sites/all/modules/smiley/packs/kolobok/smile.gif)
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Honestly we'd be lucky if we got Xander who's just boring. We'll probably get someone like Jelinsky or sifu or Charlie
I think you are overthinking it. Everyone acted like TMZ would report they cast Emily with the video of her doing blackface. 95% of the fanbase doesn't know or care about these online controversies. I think they only care when they think it might carry into the season, be an issue with the cast, and headache for production.
Xander's filled out! Lil homie might be able to win a Hall Brawl!
When did he turn into Cole Medders lil bro?
Cara getting dropped would be DELICIOUS.
i think the difference is that the political climate right now is steaming hot with all of trump's executive orders and everything else going on. if it dies down for the next few months this would probably seem like a relatively small issue in the grand scheme of things. but right now from an optics standpoint this is the absolute worst time to be getting into a mess like this.
and no one reported emily to tmz because no one gives a **** about her. cara's the female face of the show. emily came back like a decade later and i doubt 90% of the season 40 cast even knew about the blackface incident. if cara comes back next season i think it's likely that there will be other cast members getting into arguments with her over it. but they again i guess then can edit it all out like they do everything else.
stop asking for survivor men. Yall are going to get us Omar and im going the curse tf out of everyone
it really is all about timing. dee would probably still be on the show if her acid tripping galaxy brain made that racist tweet at a different time but she decided to tweet it at the peak of the BLM protests. then they dropped her for optics reasons, not because mtv actually cares. cara chose the worst time to be showing off her elementary school level education and poor critical thinking skills.
Bhanu time, baby.
When aneesa & Brando have to hall brawl against big t & Kyle
I do agree tho, most survivor men are not needed lol. The women are way better
When Sol debuts on all stars 7
Justine doesn't need to do this unless for whatever reason she really wants to. She's about to be on perfect match which based on her history of being the main character on her dating shows means she's probably about to get a massive boost in social media and advertising money
Seriously. So many people have done way worse. I still remember Jemmye's comments after the D30 Camilla stuff where she started it off with 'As someone who's likely going to have a black child one day' which I thought was absolutely disgusting. Just lucky nobody really cared at the time
Hopefully she attractive and strategic...plus not afraid to compete. She was probably the most likeable person on S39 other than Nurys
The political climate right now is what exactly? If anything her views are less likely to be attacked.
People here said repeatedly Emily would never be back because of that. No one cared because it was absolutely nothing. Just like this whole Cara saga is nothing. I just dont want her there. Replace her with Emily
99.999% people wouldn't care now...just those that want to be offended by someone that has dated primarily black men.
Na hold on Timster where u at cause people on the sidelines saying u checked me.
Like I cant even say I dont like cold locations.
LMAOOOOO!
she loves fitness, and never spoke bad on the challenge. I definitely think she wants back, theyre just ignoring her.
There are 4 active threads right now. All 4 are discussing politics. Can we please stop or can it be moved to one single thread? It's so ******* annoying. Can we just talk ******* trashy reality tv? It does not have to be brought into everything. It's the same convo. Everyone at Vevmo is a Trump hating lib except KVM who will neglect his fictional family writing paragraphs defending the man, and me whose gonna ***** and whine about all sides. We don't have to rehash the same opinions and arguements 24/7. No one's opinions are changing. Please, please, please just let it ******* go. We can even debate who the best female competitor is for the billionth time. I say Holly Shand.
Desi said multiple times she doesn't see herself doing another season. I think it was just winning for her, and once she got that, there was no reason for her to return.
Add Chanelle to being done, too. I think the fan response to her turned her off.
I think Justine might. I believe she dropped herself for 39 and decided to do LI Games. I feel like she could sneak on eventually.
So Michaela is a definite no![Sad](https://vevmo.com/sites/all/modules/smiley/packs/kolobok/sad.gif)
Unfortunately yeah. She's on vacation, and with how much of a career woman she is I can't see her taking a vacation then going straight into filming.
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"Correct answers were Ravyn and Kyland...hell we would've accepted Horacio or Zara."
The fan response to Chanelle was some bullshit. She was legit warming up. She had her moments in the vote against Josh and the oil wrestling match.
I feel like she got shit for...not trying to go into elimination??? So stupid. The object of the game 95% of the seasons is to avoid elimination!
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